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The Disconnect Remains; Contracting PMIs Imply Dramatic Q4 Losses For Global Stocks

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Economic Surprise Indices have begun to drift back lower in recent days after a short-lived scurry into positive territory  as anticipation of Fed/ECB action supported equity valuations over the last few months in the face of deteriorating earnings. Critically though, as Deutsche's Jim Reid notes, headline PMIs (and the ISM) are still well behind levels that are consistent with current equity markets as the disconnect between rich equity prices and poor fundamentals remains very wide. Back around May/June they were broadly in line and since then liquidity has propelled markets but with the data at similar levels, and clearly the hope is that the current fundamental weakness corrects into year-end but at current levels the S&P faces a 9% correction, Europe 22%, and China 25% - hope is indeed a powerful thing.

 

 

Source: Deutsche Bank

 


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Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment CPL
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God damn the markets need an enema.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:56 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Just buy equities......Ben Shalom is backing them with his full faith and credit.

 

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment FL_Conservative
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Cue the Bernanke/Charlie Evans duet in 3....2.....

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment LiesAreTheOnlyTruth
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Wasn't the Joker standing on Wall Street in the movie Batman when he cried, "This town NEEEEDS an ENEMA!" ??

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 11:48 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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SP at 9% correction is all you infer from the data? Reality has long been done away with. Yet I maintain my positions.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment ekm
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Reposting:

 

This is a Pyramid Scheme at a point that the collapse is beyond the point of return,the current buying is simply FORCED BUYING due to the lack of NEWCOMERS (or suckers).

 

The current buying is simply a HOPE that the suckers will arrive, but they won't. The suckers are either retired and need money for medical care or living in the basements of the retired ones.

 

It's over, it definitely over. QEn was the panic move.

 

Pyramid Schemes always collapse in few days or weeks, they never, ever, ever wind down orderly.

Examples:

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/0c6e25e4-e553-11e1-b758-00144feab49a.html#axzz288nMA6Cj

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2012/09/gunns-and-the-elites/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2104982_2104983_2104998,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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But wait, I thought the economy improved when neo-liberal and neo-conservative economists just keep telling us over and over that some numbers that they pulled says we aren't in a recession?

Oh wait, it's all bullshit, I forgot.

 

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Jason T
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Does (flash) imply Flash Crash?

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 09:59 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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When Deutsche Bank (or Goldman, etc) tell the public to expect a 9% correction, that's the signal to buy, isn't it?

 

 

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:01 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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It will be interesting to see if Ben props this thing up until the just after the election. There will be a lot of shocked people if he ever lets this pig find it's fair value.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:05 | Link to Comment Abraxas
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IMHO Ben does not concern himself with the outcome of the election. The difference between the two candidates (and parties) is non-existent and they can't touch him anyways. The boy is very well protected.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:09 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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Makes ya wonder if the Fed put ol' Romney up to running just to lock-in their Obama winner.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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What it tells us much like 08 is we ain't seen nothing yet.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:05 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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Apparently the Fed is hell-bent on giving us a perpetual bull market; things certainly are different this time.

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:08 | Link to Comment mayhem
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why arent these showing up on FINVIZ this morning? Seems unusual. Maybe this is a sign? Trying to keep the news all positive lol

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment HD
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Just 9%?

 

 

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:14 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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but if we would print more money and give it to the banks....

just a idea... thinking out loud and all...

 

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Cue the RaRRy...

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