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Turkey Fires Artillery Shells Into Syria In Alleged Retaliation

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Following this morning's reported shelling of a Turkish town (from Syrian lands):


The Turkish foreign ministry has held emergency talks and, according to Zaman, Turkey has now begun firing 'warning' shots into Syria and 'the bombardment continues to be heavy'.


And it would appear things are escalating:


On the earlier Syrian shelling of Turkey...

Via Reuters: Mortar from Syria kills five family members in Turkey

AKCAKALE, Turkey, Oct 3 (Reuters) - A mortar bomb fired from Syria landed in a residential district of the southeastern Turkish town of Akcakale on Wednesday, killing a woman and four children from the same family and wounding at least eight other people.


A cloud of dust and smoke rose up over low-rise buildings as residents ran to help the wounded. Others, infuriated by the increasing spillover of violence from Syria's civil war, took to the streets shouting protests against the local authorities.


Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu phoned U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to brief him about the incident and also spoke with senior military officials and Syria crisis mediator Lakhdar Brahimi, his ministry said in a statement.


Davutoglu signalled over the weekend that Turkey would take action if there was a repeat of a mortar strike which damaged homes and workplaces in Akcakale last Friday.


"It (latest mortar round) hit right in the middle of the neighbourhood. The wife and four children from the same family died," Ahmet Emin Meshurgul, local head of the Turkish Red Crescent, told Reuters, adding he knew the victims personally.


"People here are anxious, because we got hit before. Security forces tried to convince people to empty the neighbourhood near the border, but now we've been hit right in the middle of the town," he said.


A Reuters witness saw three police officers among the wounded being taken to hospital.


Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan long cultivated good relations with Assad but became a harsh critic after Syria's popular revolt began last year, accusing him of creating a "terrorist state". Erdogan has allowed Syrian rebels to organise on Turkish soil and pushed for a foreign-protected safe zone inside Syria.




Syria's worsening bloodshed has increasingly affected border zones, with stray bullets flying into Turkish territory.


"Over the last 20 to 25 days there have been very heavy clashes on the Syrian side. We have felt the effects of these in Akcakale," Labour Minister Faruk Celik, an MP for the province where Akcakale is located, told parliament.


In April, Turkey reported an incident to the United Nations in which at least five people, including two Turkish officials, were wounded when cross-border gunfire struck a Syrian refugee camp in Kilis, further west along the frontier.


Turkey beefed up its troop presence and air defences along its 900-km (560-mile) border after Syria shot down a Turkish reconnaissance jet in June. But residents in Akcakale said there was still not enough security.


"People here are rising up, there is no security. People were chanting for the local governors to resign," local resident Ibrahim Halil Arslan told CNN Turk television.


"Everybody here is so anxious. We keep our children locked at home, and we are trying to live under this psychological pressure," he said.


Washington sees Turkey as the pivotal player in backing Syria's opposition and planning for the post-Assad era. But Ankara has found itself increasingly isolated and frustrated by a lack of international consensus on how to end the conflict.


Turkey is also sheltering more than 90,000 refugees from Syria and fears a mass influx similar to the flight of half a million Iraqi Kurds into Turkey after the 1991 Gulf War.


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Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:57 | 2852212 Dalago
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False flag!  Fuck this shit!

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:03 | 2852233 Haager
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Exactly. Like the drone or whatever that were brought down whilst in violation of the Syrian borders.

I won't be surprised if the Syrian shells turn out to be fired by those friendly rebels.


Anyway: Should be bullish, at least for crude.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:33 | 2852360 malikai
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O/T, but isn't it odd how on this day of the presidential debates, where economy and inflation will likely play a large role, we get oil down and equities up? Also, watch out gold..

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:42 | 2852405 gmrpeabody
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Just a good old fashioned Turkey shoot!

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:51 | 2852447 redpill
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Muzzie-on-muzzie violence, it's the civil rights cause of our time!  Sennn inn Jezzie Jack-sunnnn

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:24 | 2852601 pasco35
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Grab a bucket of popcorn because WW III is about to start!!!





Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:43 | 2852697 redpill
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Will storm windows help with that?

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:15 | 2852558 Possible Impact
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Miss your posts on TOL.

Posted this: Russia warns NATO to stay away from Syria

What do you think NATO will do?


Wed, 10/03/2012 - 18:08 | 2853686 Dugald
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Based on past performance, sweet FA...just carry on with the perpetual cocktail party

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:55 | 2852470 azzhatter
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Has obama cancelled the debate? election?

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:00 | 2852493 Acet
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A friend of mine which is Turkish and from that area told me how the Syrian rebels would come into town (on the Turkish side) all cocky, would steal things and once even beat up a local cop.

One day they robbed a shop and killed the shopkeeper. People complained and even demonstrated demanding that the Turkish authorities did something about it but they did nothing (and in fact news of the demonstrations didn't even appear in Turkish Newspapers).

So what started happening is that the Syrian rebels started getting killed when they came into town. Guess that solved the problem.

Although my friend only admitted that everybody in that area has a weapon at home, from some of his stories I got the impression that a lot of people in that area make their business from smuggling, so they're not exactly pushovers.

That said, that the Turkish authorities ignored the situation of the Syrian rebels stealing and killing in the border towns tells me that Erdogan's motives for being against the Syrian Government have nothing to do with the behaviour of both sides of the conflict in Syria. Methinks this "mortar attack" is either staged or it was actually the rebels that launched it.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:14 | 2852553 CPL
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If anyone wants to watch it.  Site is in turkish.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:37 | 2852674 blu
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"Methinks this "mortar attack" is either staged or it was actually the rebels that launched it."


Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:06 | 2852250 slaughterer
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If this were real, Brent/WTI would have said so.   False flag indeed.  

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:50 | 2852395 Cult_of_Reason
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Geithner has issued an urgent order this morning to JPM/Goldman to knock oil lower (before the war escalates to bombing of Iran or secondary to the US dipping into a recession?)


Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:07 | 2852259 bigkahuna
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Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:09 | 2852270 ziggy59
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Zackly..sum of all fears replayed
Notice how the resistance force are called rebels but when the US invades and attacks, they're called insurgents? All linguist propaganda.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:11 | 2852279 Skateboarder
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All rebels are terrorists but not all terrorists are rebels? Is that how this thing works?

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:30 | 2852339 Gert_B_Frobe
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Cunning linguists, at that

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:09 | 2852536 Sokhmate
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colonel Angus is heading south

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:39 | 2852387 kaa1016
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Turkey calls on NATO. Earlier, Russia, who's only foreign military base is in Syria, told NATO to stay out. This should get interesting pretty fast...

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:58 | 2852216 LongSoupLine
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Yay!!  More recovery!

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:59 | 2852225 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Krugman?  Is that you??

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:10 | 2852276 max2205
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Detroit....oh bad

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:59 | 2852222 VonManstein
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turkish PM is a NATO dodo who will destroy his country

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:18 | 2852301 NotApplicable
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NATO, Fuck Yeah!

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:00 | 2852224 pods
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Fucking alphabet agencies whacking the hornet's nest for sure.


Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:22 | 2852313 Dr. Engali
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You know pods I get more and more pissed every day knowing we are out there instigating this shit, especially when the average American is walking around with their head up their ass like nothing is going on. I wonder if some day we will be marched through the killing fields to see the death and destruction we caused like the Germans after WWII.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:33 | 2852357 MachoMan
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Isn't this the inevitable gambit we've tacitly agreed to by waiver/apathy/ratification for the last many decades?  Isn't the resource grab inevitable? 

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:01 | 2852764 pods
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To be honest, it surely could have been Syrian rebels, government supporters, hell the tooth fairy.
But, it seems that whenever the nest is whacked, INVARIABLY we are no more than 2 degrees separated from it.  We gave so and so money, arms, etc.

If anyone is to blame for all the fires popping up around the world we have to look no further than our collective mirror.


Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:19 | 2852837 DoChenRollingBearing
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Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:01 | 2852227 PaperWillBurn
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It's on like Donkey Kong!

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:03 | 2852237 Jake88
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I smell CIA.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:04 | 2852243 bmwm395
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Someone hit pause, I need to make some popcorn.


Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:06 | 2852254 Skateboarder
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"Does this come in HD?"

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:07 | 2852257 PUD
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Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:08 | 2852258 the not so migh...
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Kick ass time

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:08 | 2852263 Gringo Viejo
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Clash of the Titans. Wake me when they start lobbing chemical shells @ each other.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:35 | 2852368 unrulian
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chemical weapons arent real...just like santa and solid gold bars

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:50 | 2852725 lolmao500
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Chemical weapons are real but they are CRAP in the field. Especially against troops. Against civilian population, they are somewhat effective... against trained soldiers? Not so much.

Thing is, what happens if Syria is attacked and start launching chemical weapons at Israel... remember that chemical weapons are WMDs, the only WMDs Israel got are NUKES. The Israeli government has said it many times... if WMDs are ever used against them, nukes will be the response.

Wouldn't surprise me if Damascus was levelled as a response... and of course after that, Israel will use the old ``the bible predicted it`` thing to make sure they have full support from the bible belt nutjobs in America.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:15 | 2852813 Urban Redneck
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Chemical Weapons and Solid Gold Bars are quite real, I've seen them both up close and have used to own some of the latter myself, before an unfortunate accident.

As to whether anyone currently posses any, who is to say, it is a forest of allegation and misdirection, and lot of people who verifiably used to have either chemical weapons or gold bars, claim to no longer posses them, whilst those who covet their neighbors' gold and WMD refuse to believe in "boating accidents".

In regards to Santa, you're on your own

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:08 | 2852264 unionbroker
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i always say follow the money or in this case who benefits from explosions in Turkey . Hint not the Assad regime

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:15 | 2852289 Darth Mul
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No reason for Assad to shell turkey.


Its the rebels and/or Mossad.  Little doubt of that.


But I'm anxiously awaiting what "Iranian" attack will take place?  Will it be the Enterprise?  Somewhere in Chicago {did Barak and Emanuel chat about that?)


Hmmm..  in fact, it'd be swell to know when Emanuel leaves town.  If he flies out of the country int he next couple/few months, you may want to go down to your bunker.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:34 | 2852365 Gert_B_Frobe
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Nah, it'll be an attack on a US sub, then they'll go to some obscure island to regroup, then ... Oh, wait, someone get me the damn real script for this.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:42 | 2852408 ziggy59
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Im surprised shell fragments havent been reassembled and have "fired by assad troops" on it...

Remember when US found definite proof that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? Well, we didnt hear much about it since they were made in the USA..when the dictator du jour friend of Rumsfeld, Saddam Husein, recieved all types of weapons from us in 1980s... I guess the SeeEyeA grew tired of that be-atch.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:16 | 2852294 PaperBear
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What was that place in Germany where the Nazis faked a Polish attack?

This smells like that.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:02 | 2852508 Manipulism
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Sender Gleiwitz

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:17 | 2852297 RiverRoad
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That's all it will take:  one little nit biting an elephant's ass to start the next convenient war.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:20 | 2852309 Sandmann
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So the Turks fire artillery at Kurdish positions......still won't stop Kurdistan from taking large slices of Turkey.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:31 | 2852345 Inthemix96
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This should be on the front pages tomorrow.

Obamas kids, bernanks kids, geithners kids, bushes kids, clintons kids, powells kids, etc and fucking etc.

Go before ours.  They want it, let the fucking bastards have it, but they go first.

Spineless yellow cowards sending your kids to die for thier continuing fraud.  Fuck that, and fuck them.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:52 | 2852450 JR
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See this...

(UNBELIVEABLE video)  Warmonger Democrat James Baker, former Secretary of State under Bush Republican administration, says of Iran, "we have to take them out.” Maniacally laughing Hillary aside, the real revelation was the reincarnation of Dick Cheney into the body of Baker who couldn’t resist dramatically emphasizing: we’re the only ones big enough to do it.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:03 | 2852517 Inthemix96
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Saw it this morning JR. :-)

I know you realise it, but does the other fuck knows how many on ZH realise this is for us?  This is what it comes down to?  Mine is simple, I have two kids.  I go long before they do.  My kids will not fight for this illegitimate shit pushed on us.  They are too young to understand, I may have been found wanting.  I may have been slow on the uptake.  But I have now had my eyes opened.  My children have nothing to do with this disgusting excuse of a living we have endured.

Take this as a given.  I go.  Many go before me.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:43 | 2852693 JR
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You make a really good point: that the crimes that the warmongers are now committing do not obligate future generations to fight the wars or endure the economic hardships that result.

Example: reinstituting a military draft three or five years from now to deal with the counterattacks coming from the Middle East or even Russia and China does not impose required patriotism on the teenagers of today. Instead, their obligation would be to recover the control of their own country.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:35 | 2852896 Urban Redneck
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Baker isn't any reincarnation of Cheney.

The reverse would be closer to the truth, but their views and methods are very different.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 17:48 | 2853605 Overfed
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Hitlery just lays out that whole false flag justification of starting another war. Fuck me.

Sociopathic maniacs.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:35 | 2852354 JR
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Never underestimate the power of money as a weapon to destroy, added to the real bombs and the wars by proxy.

A scheme of the world masters for Iran, for example, is to create some sort of unofficial inflation (counterfeit) to pitch Iran's economy into hell and destroy the people’s faith in the essential soundness of their country.

The masters' ultimate goal: a world plantation economy ruled with a whip.

Case in point: “In addition to the anti-civilian sanctions, a war crime, as Bob Wenzel has pointed out, the CIA and Mossad are rumored to be printing vast numbers of rial as well.” – Lew Rockwell. 

Wenzel's article:                  

Iranian Police Clash with Protesters over Currency Plunge

Some of the fall in the value of the Iranian rial can be attributed to sanctions against Iran limiting the supply of goods into the country, but there also appears to be a demand side element to soaring prices. In other words, somebody is printing a lot of rial, either the Iranian central bank or the CIA. Maybe both.

The flood of new money is causing the value of the rial to plunge and civil unrest is developing.

Reuters reports:

Iranian riot police clashed on Wednesday with demonstrators and foreign exchange dealers in the capital Tehran over the collapse of the country's currency, which has lost a third of its value against the dollar in a week, witnesses said.

Police fired tear gas to disperse the demonstrators, angered by the plunge in the value of the Iranian rial. Protesters shouted slogans against President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, saying his economic policies had fuelled the economic crisis...

It is not out of the realm of possibility that most the increase in the money supply is the result of foreign elements injecting rial for the purpose of creating instability in the country.

Did somebody at the CIA read What You Should Know about Inflation by Henry Hazlitt?

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:38 | 2852386 Gert_B_Frobe
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Eh, just ship Bankster Ben over to Iran for a month. Guaranteed a real monetary screw-up.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:07 | 2852362 EvlTheCat
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In related news, Dr. Klaus Wolfer, known to his friends as Ferdinand, the Ambassador of the Austria consulate in Turkey, was reported to be driving in the area at the time when an artillery shell decimated his limousine.  More updates as they come in......


oh, I'm sorry </sarc>

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:36 | 2852375 meizu
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If Turkey dare to invade Syria, it will sink into a quagmire worse than US did in Iraq, let's see if Erdogan is dumb enough to believe he will be greeted with flowers by his fellow sunni syrians.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:40 | 2852398 alobar
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Crude doesn't reflect this news. I don't mind it going up a bit as I'm about to get long squezzed.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:44 | 2852414 Joebloinvestor
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Obama personally asked Turkey to wait till after the election. LOL

Amazing how the European and middle east give so much weight to an American election to determine WTF they do.

Like it fucking matters.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:50 | 2852423 jesusonline
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Cui Bono? 

For Syria to bomb Turkey and make it a case for NATO intervention?.. Hardly.

Maybe a "peaceful protesters" mortar shelling civilians/journalists "by mistake"? Why not.

Just like that:

Syria: Camera crew captures attack that killed French journalist Gilles Jacquier 

Rebel mortar killed French journalist in Homs report claims


French Journalist Was Killed by Syrian Rebels, Le Figaro Says

Syrian army deserters have told Arab League observers they fired the rocket by mistake, thinking they were attacking soldiers loyal to President Bashar al-Assad, the French newspaper said.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:48 | 2852433 q99x2
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Reuters lies, CNN lies, My bet is that the banksters are paying NATO to start killing people with their hired mercinaries again.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:54 | 2852456 wretch
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From Russia, with love:


Moscow warns NATO on itchy trigger finger in Syria



The Foreign Ministry has called on NATO and Middle East countries not to devise pretexts for military intervention in Syria.

Russia has expressed concern that some provocation could occur at the Turkish-Syrian border that may give NATO the green light to intervene in Syria.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2852521 ziggy59
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Surprise!! Its October!
The way i see it, is that the script writers are recycled warmongers. Its all they know what to do..yeah like the scorpion and the frog..anyway, same effed up, C rated script, different actors..

No academy awards for these cling-ons

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:24 | 2852602 NoTTD
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Excellent!  The soooner they all kill each other the better.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:30 | 2852627 ziggy59
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Used to be, a fart blown in the direction of your neigbor that you didnt get along with moved the oil and equity markets. Now? Uncle Ben and his Converted Inkjets can only do that.

..true, it is a "presidential" election year, or so they say.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:45 | 2852706 Uncle Remus
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Weaponized camels.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:38 | 2852913 Bugsquasher
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TPTB are determined to drag us into this quagmire one way or another.  Sunni al Qadia on one side and pro Iranian whack jobs on the other.  There nothing to win here and everything to lose.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 16:12 | 2853041 magpie
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Hope the Turks hit some AQ with their fire

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 18:50 | 2853849 Coldfire
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Get in bed with the Devil, sooner or later you have to fuck.

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