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Coming To A Gas Station Near You?
This is neither from the near (or distant) future, nor from a movie starring Will Smith in which he fights vampire zombies (at least not yet). It's from the here and now, Calabasas, CA to be precise. And it may be coming to a gas pump near you in the immediate future.
and from San Francisco... the fill 'er up is getting a little pricey...
h/t JR
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don't forget Camden, NJ as a wonderful place to try to live.
Cardio.
Hell Yeah, if you cant beat join em!
It won't stop me from getting to Aspen.
Too cheap for Bernanke. Need. More. QE...
lets make it A full "SQUID". 8 large.
" Welcome to "HYPER/STAGFLATION"
"ZOMBECONOMY"
TMYFI
Interesting story. Oil is on decline.
http://bullandbearmash.com/chart/spot-wti-oil-daily-october-05-2012/
And gas did close up to 2.95, well below its historical high of 3.60.
Oil and gas prices are falling, not rising.
OF COURSE gas prices are falling. That's why I just spent $60 to fill up instead of $40. Dipshit.
"Oil and gas prices are falling, not rising."
You must be standing on your head, as they've "fallen" up about $1 over the last several weeks here in San Diego.
California doesn't count, tha't not the price of oil that's rising, it's the price of Californians collective stupidity in selecting their governments.
How many times have they re-elected Pelosi, there must be something in their water causing brain damage.
could it be that the prices are not going up but the dollar is going down?
We humans are sooo fucking stupid. We pay the oil and gas companies royalties to slowly kill us and the planet. They drill offshore that they don't own and sell it back to our dumbasses at cost + profit. Instead of moving towards energy that doesn't cost our nuts and our children's nuts we double down on the nastiest shit that anyone with common sense wouldn't snort the byproducts of its combustion. Yes stupid are we. Still using the same energy tech for 100 years...dumbasses...oh but wait we have NEW ways to get the oil and gas they tell us...To not want to destroy the planet is LIBERAL. BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! Clean coal...come on. We bitch about the chevy volt and other GREEN cars...while China subsidizes their industry. Here are the choices dumbasses. FREE ENERGY or WARS...CORRUPTION...DEATH. GAS needs to be 10 bucks if it means the jackoffs in their death spewing gas guzzlers finally get it. BOSS TWEED would be soooo fucking proud.
++ Nikola Tesla knew it...100 years ago.
And this is the best we can do?
It's really quite sad when you think about how we've crushed ourselves over power and greed.
Had my Volt a year, and not once yet charged on coal/power company power - my own PV panels do the job. Yet people here are all butt-hurt because they were ignorantly long GM when I was short into bankruptcy - which money bought a Camaro SS (fun!), then a Volt (more fun, actually).
182 lifetime mpg so far (I burn some gas on purpose, engine not really broken in yet with only about 20 gallons in the year I've owned it). Unlike a Prius, it's actually fun to drive. It's not a cheap ass econobox like the Cruze everyone wants to compare it to - I've owned one of those too.
Evidently the patriots here like killing people and don't even figure the cost of wars in the ME into the real price of gasoline - as if - wait till it's you or your kid dead, then think again, I prefer not to have that happen to mine. Why not hate on gas guzzlers instead? Look at how many people love us for our middle east excursions so you can drive a truck or SUV as a commuter car. I call utter bullshit on this crowd for that. Immoral assholes.
Junk away bitches, I actually don't give a shit - I do really own a car I can drive on power I make here in America, with solar panels also made here. You want to be addicted to giving money to the worst people on earth? Obviously you do. Why not just move to Saudi Arabia where it's all subsidized and get outa my face and quit causing the world to hate me for your actions?
Electric bicycles are still illegal in NY State I believe.
And many other places:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#State_requirements_f...
Get "The State" out of the way and we'll get this party started.
The Volt will probably vanish just like the EV-1.
GM already has the press release typed up.
All full of excuses as to why they couldn't make the electric car a success this time.
Gonna take widespread mass failure to force change here in the USSA.
I have these things called trees on my property that have grown about 20ft higher than my roof. Makes it nice and shady. I wonder how much power I could generate with $10k worth of solar panels on my roof in Ohio during October.
Cleaning the leaves out while standing on the roof would probably be fun too. Not to mention the snow.
Hey you charge your Volt with solar panels, good for you. Not really practical for the majority of people. The cost associated with solar panels and all the other things you talk about, pretty much lead me to believe $10 gas wouldn't be too hard on your wallet. Unless you got everything paid for with subsidies. Then you made every taxpayer pay your bill for you.
You will never make back the investment cost in solar panels before they go bad, with the savings from them in a typical suburban home.
The best bet is the minature wind turbines, but they still start at $7500 with no way to store the surplus energy. Selling a couple kwh back to the electric company for pocket change doesn't really make that worth the cost either.
BlackM
the problem is that the energy of millions of years of sunlight is captured by oil and coal and NOTHING else come close. Everytime you change energy from one form to another you loose about 50%. Coal to electricity...50%loss. Electricity to battery...50%...better to use the gas in vehicle from an efficiency POV.
Accidental double tap...
I guess it we see a case of oil and gas prices falling in the government manipulated market but on the street, the real price is going through the roof.
Maybe in Cornyfornia, but head a bit East and you'll be pleasantly surprised... I know I was to see $3.89 (it was $4.15 last time I filled up, but I don't commute daily) :)
This is GREAT. Americans already consumer 25% of the earth's resources...if prices were raised to something more reflective of actual scarcity it would help...read the piece on Triffin's Dilemma.
And I REALLY like the higher prices for CREDIT usage!!!
While visiting Italy earlier this year, gas was around $10 a gallon. That kind of price changes your outlook even on the Volt.
Until they have to move into their SUV instead of driving it, perhaps.
If you have no Kids or maybe one buy a Toyota IQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_cYdfKjAc
But yee guys would probally want to stick a 2 litre engine in this 1 litre car..........
Yee Just want to CONSUME
PS.....sorry a 1.3 Litre engine in the Scion............but WHY reduce the fuel consumption for that ?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTlEJKCQ9n4
Its a small car .............a very small car = 1 litre engine is more then enough.
$600 a gallon, did I miss the hyper inflation?! Talk about outrageous!
keep raising it till traffic thins out and cops stop patrolling
Ha, the cops won't even think about cutting $.10 from thier pay or pension. You think they are going to give up thier right to sit in a squad car with the engine running, talking on their cell phone while occasionaly pulling someone over for going 70mph in a 65, to write a $145 ticket in order to make the month's quota?
The price of gas doesn't matter when Joe Taxpayer foots the bill. They are doing a public service.
at what point do you think it would really affect the people who have to commute to make rent? you assume an elasticity which does not jibe with reality.
The avg commute in the US is 15mi each way, at the standard shite American fuel efficiency of ~20mpg, you're using 1.5 gallon per day or 4.5 gallons per week, assuming you make minimum wage at 24 hours per week (because who the fuck can get a full-time job in this economy...with benefits? hahaha) less taxes you pull down what, $130-$150/week? So at $6/gallon with a $150/mo lease that's 50% of your take-home in "opportunity cost". Maybe you're a go-getter and have 2 24 hour per week jobs. Then you're only looking at ~35% of your take-home.
Those 47%ers have it sooo good!
regular price six bucks six bucks six bucks
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMf7A0I1ms
Fuck it. Give me one of these real cars.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NA744jIRgC0
Four dueces on a 427?LOL Great car but did you notice these million+ dollars cars never get driven? I have been looking at 65 GTO's for a while now and thinking about buying one as an "investment". I am just not sure that these cars are a good investment because I am likely to do something alpha male like what happened with this 1970 Cougar. With PM, I am much more like Nigel Tufnel's guitar that can't be played.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt3mHQ0rJxc
Not sure if this is still on Netflix, but this is a must watch.
It's called Collapse.
Watch this 2 min. trailer, but the entire 1:20 is mindblowing.
Documentary is with Michael Rupert, a whistleblower that exposed the CIA importing tons of cocaine into the U.S. in the early 90's.
He is a league of his own when it comes to the coming oil crisis. Almost ZeroHedge-like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyHIOg5aHk
He's on Coast to Coast next week.........
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/10/08
Full version is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHLTUM62oKY&feature=related
He's a bit unstable. Like that Jim Stone guy.
Sounds good, but verify what he rambles on about.
Lots of competition in the low budget Alex Jones lookalike business.
Great person of integrity, but he's been fucked with. They threw everything at him but the kitchen sink, including poison and he's still on his feet.
During his post poisoning recovery euphoria, he did go all hopium for obummer, I believe.
I love my little two stroke Yamaha Zuma more and more with each passing day! Just invested in a Kryptonite NY Fuhgedaboudit Chain lock.
Amusing to watch the same nice folks (in CA) that bemoan energy, motive power, modernity...in favor of alternative energy and sustainability have a complete shit fit when petro in their tank becomes problematic.
My fair state (MO) voted to force our utility companies into charging up our cell phones, running our refers / ACs / lights... on 15% alternative energy. If I were the utility company, I'd simply turn the power off for a couple hours a day; that's an alternative energy: waving a paper fan in your own face.
If I were the utility company, I would turn the power off ...
That's been tried. google enron
Perhaps, but has been dropping recently in the midwest. Don't imagine we'll see those prices widespread until........well, maybe 2nd week of November?
I too have also noticed that price drop here. Not sure why that is but there is a refinery just south of the TC and we are much closer to Canada. Plus the tourist season is over now so those reasons might factor in? At any rate, I often drive over 150 miles a day so it adds up.
This was not hard to see coming so I bought a used Hyundai about a month ago. I know some about cars and saw(heard) that the cat was fucked up. I know how these jag used car salesmen work so I took the car on an extended test drive so the engine light would eventually come on as they reset the codes to make the light go off. I coud tell by the brakes initial squealing that there was some rust there.(means it had been sitting for a while) After the enging light came on I stopped at the local parts store and had them check the code for free. Cat 3 inefficient and cylinder 3 misfire.
I went back to the dealer and got $800 off what they were previously asking. I fixed it for $760 plus a few other basic services. I parked my truck which gets 17 mpg hwy and 12 in town. I now get 40 mpg hwy 35 in town. Everythng is manual on this Hyundai. No fucking electric window switches to fail, no AC, no auto trans. It's just a commuter. It features an AM/FM radio(no clock) with a cassette deck(which may or may not work, who cares?) and a drink holder.
Mrs. Manipuflation, who is a stay at home/go shopping Mom, made fun of me for the purchase and the expense to make it right but then I started showing her the gas receipts. Then the AC compressor went out on her 22 mpg Chrysler Town and Country so we took that in to get fixed and we found out that we can haul both of us and our two children in the Hyundai plus get groceries. The liablity insurance cost me an extra $12 a month for this vehicle since I paid cash and there is no note on this care. The Mrs. is not laughing anymore.
So yeah, I now have three vehicles to deal with but I have the option to select which vehicle will maximize my petrodollar based on what I need to accomplish with that vehicle.
In a crash, you have a good chance with the truck. Not so much with the shit box.
How much do you figure you life and the lives of your family are worth?
FYI, I did not junk you because you ask a fair enough question coredmutton. I am only using the shitbox for the family while the van is in the shop and the family do not really need to go anywhere.(just transportation between shop and home and in town at 35 mph) It is usually just me in the shitbox using the MN part of I-94 to the TC.
But let me fill you in on something else just so you know. A pickup truck is no match for an 18 wheeler on an Insterstate highway who's driver has started falling asleep.(it happens) I have seen some pretty gruesome scenes out here on the highways. It really does not matter what you drive so much as it is how you position yourself in traffic. Keep distance so you can react. The wind sheer coming off the Dakotas WILL shift any vehicle, shitbox or Shelby on the MN portion of I-94. I am sure it is the same anywhere else in the upper midwest.
I am not a speeder either because not many things are really that important that you need to be there 15 seconds earlier than the other guy. I do drive the speed limit. I think that "clovers" who drive 55 mph in a 70 mph zone are just as dangerous as they clog the right lane up forcing me to change to the left lane where the 90 mph clovers like to be. That is probably the most dangerous situation I encounter on our highways and it does not seem to matter which state I am in nor what vehicle I am driving.
Everyone in Calabasas can afford gas @ 6, 7, 8 or 11. If you live there, you're either wealthy out the kazoo or keeping up with the Joneses and loading the 12 credit cards to the max to make everyone in the neighborhood not think less of you.
I'm impressed w/ your posts. Thats right. Use 2 live there. The way it is. Especially the part about the 12 CC...........
Prices go up instantly; they take forever to come back down.
In the UK, they've only just decided to do a dog 'n pony show to investigate price latency at the pumps, after prices have crept fom ~70p / litre to ~£1.40 / litre over last few years.
The fucktards state:
I think it's the cost to reload their inventory that dictates the price.
Alternative/sustainable energy alternatives sound great and all, but many miss this little tidbit of info.
It takes oil to dig out these rare earth metals, manufacturing processes and machines use oil, and it takes oil to ship these products places. Solar panels and wind turbines are highly energy intensive processes. Creating nuclear reactors is probably the most energy intensive process (using a lot of oil) in the history of mankind. What about agricultural processes? Most pesticides are oil-based, crop dusters for food use oil to fly, machines that cultivate crops use oil, and so on down the line, etc. etc.
It takes 8 gallons of oil to make one fucking tire.
There is *no* replacement for oil.
Every product that you've ever been able to attain was dug/created/manufactured/packaged/shipped by oil.
Isn't that exactly why it shouldn't be wasted in combustion engines? The deposits won't be infinite just because it's currently deemed "essential".
You're talking about the need of oil as a way of energy storage and also as a raw material for chemical industry. However, both needs are a result of the existing market conditions in which oil is still cheap and abundant; correspondingly the infrastructure is well adapted to it. As it becomes scarcer and more expensive, it'll become more cost-efficient to use alternative substances where possible, and even to synthesize oil where it can't be replaced.
The sun gifts us with about 174 petawatt of sunlight energy at all times, while mankind's energy consumption is currently estimated 100 petawatt-hours per year. That's 35 minutes of sunshine.
Large scale solar requires an energy storage capacity that doesn't exist. And when the lights go out the bitchez get slaughtered.
Meanwhile, the Saudis burn your precious USD$100 per barrel oil to make toilet water.
I filled up yesterday in Oxnard [not too far from Calabasas] and it was $4.17. Don't believe the hype...even on ZH.
Shutty!
http://www.venturagasprices.com/
Oxnard is the hood. Pretty far from Calabasas.
It's not my fault that Costco is in Oxnard. The point is that you can't believe everything you read, even on ZH.
I'm in the Central Valley, and yesterday the Shell had regular for $4.59.
The quik stop was $4.05 in the morning, and was $4.45 in the evening.
What's wrong with a lil reality? Gas is really expensive. Get a bike.
A bike for what?
Well, in various area of ZH this eve, we've knocked around "collapse" and the possibility of other shortages (food, etc.)....so just thought for "beans" I'd throw out the US Gov's latest bill: Post today; approved 9/28 --
US Gov't prepping for mass casualties, etc. has authorized FEMA to step in...you know, in the event of a mass terror attack, etc.
Hmmm, while I know disaster-contingency planning is important, I'm w ondering if there isn't something else in the works. Not paranoid or anything, just not trusting.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr6566/text
CoolBeans,
I noticed that too. Thank you for the link. Notice that the DC spendthrifts are gearing up to give Jews and Muslims their special burial requests at a time when the country founded by Christians is broke, busted, on the verge of bankruptcy...because it indulged the Fed, and the Socialist Internationale and other foreign ideas, used to usurp the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
Hey ho. This is what happens when politicians and socialists spend other people's money.
If anyone in Calabasas (or the surrounding areas) decide to go the way of the Greeks, Harbor Freight sells self priming siphon hoses for $8. And guess where Harbor Freight is located?
26541 Agoura Road, Calabasas, CA 91302
Best sense of humor award...........
Best post on the entire blog.............
Paid $5 - .001/gal today in dowtown San Diego; $35 to fill my MOTORCYCLE! One has to marvel at the "audacity" of the current government: the willingness to cook the books (jobs, GDP, Iranian intentions, the infinity of shale gas, etc. etc.) reeks of a desperation that scares the hell out of me. They know the U.S. Ponzi requires more lies with every passing moment. Only Bernanke can provide the cash needed to allow Americans to buy $5+ gasoline...and then $10 gas...and then $15 gas... The looks on people's faces as they twisted the gas caps onto the tanks on their SUVs and recradled the gas nozzles:heads shaking and scowls all around. We are just about to go over the cliff, and it is going to be a long, swiftly acceleraating plunge...
I agree with you, Howard.
This story prompted some very funny gallows humor on ZH; many a truth spoken in jest. Certainly made me chuckle; classic ZH. But it's time to use this interval to get ready for the post Nov 6 reality to kick in. I suspect that DC will bail out CA by piping in petrol/gas from other parts of the USA in order to save their great 'project', California the testing ground for every nonsensical political-economic theory ever seen Post WWII.
Motorbikes: a lot of fun, and cheaper travel. Those who like the roll of the limousine wheel are heading off the cliff.
I own a Buick because it was American made; American design and jobs for Americans. My beloved who prefers motorbikes will enjoy proving that he was right, again...the cheeky devil.
Wait till it starts raining, smart guy. Then it is public trans. 3 hrs. 2 get somewhere that would take 35 minutes......
Well when the Lord comes to give this place an enema we sure know where he's gonna stick the hose!
Get teh fook outta CA folks!!!
Long bike paths.
Excellent choice, and healthiest...apart from shank's mare.
$4 gas is the indicator for recession in the US. Prices are high but not high enough to bring new fuel to the market (to bring the price down ... right?)
ECRI looks to be right about recession in the US. (Actually, it never ended ...) Too high gas prices is the culprit.
The price can be a lot higher: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/magazine/yemen-on-the-brink-of-hell.ht...
It can also be very low ... and still be beyond the reach of customers. BTW: when this state of affairs takes place there is no auto industry.
I am soooo glad I turned down that Cali job two years ago.
Same here. Google made multiple attempts to recruit me, I said no way. No way in hell that I'll work in CA -- ever. And I'm not going back to NY either... Anyone still living in such states should get their mental health checked.
This sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLIlLzIh2Q&t=142
Ill glance at sign as im walking.City life my have it's shit,but it's lookin better than suburbs.Not big city,but city non the less.
Califuckya in the -
Just drove by an AM/PM with pumps closed.
I do and don't give a flying fuck about the price of gas. All these jack-offs that bought houses in the xceno-suburbs are eating it know! Thought you would make a kill'in owning a home. Now you can barely afford the gas for that long commute. You did it to yourselfs and your blaming Obama and Bush and everybody but yourselfs. You jerks like to use phrases like, "to feed my family". Take responsibility 4 your own decisions. Hard to admit u fucked-up baby...
"I do and don't give a flying fuck about the price of gas."
What? So do you care or not?
I didn't buy a home and I am not underwater just FYI. I have to drive to see customers face to face and have lunch with them once in a while because that is more effective than a phone call or an e-mail saleswise. I ain't selling a pack of bubble-gum on these trips chum. And I have to factor in freight costs on every sale I make plus my fuel costs. I wholesale so it is in your best interest that I cut cost where I can or your retail price is going to go up. There is a limit to the wholesale discount price and we have reached it. Margins are small now compared to 2006.
My advice is that you really study up on what it costs to ship anything in the U.S., thanks to the new FMCSA mandates, and then do some serious thinking about whether they are actually "law" or not. The SEC or CFTC can't seem to regulate markets but we can sure seem to pick on shippers of product via USDOT as an enforcement agency.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/rules-regulations.htm
I don't because I have more money than GOD! I do care because I feel sorry for guys like you that have to continue to chase the shrinking USD. Fuck'in glad I'm out of the fucked-up work force...............................
Many of "those jack-offs who bought houses in the suburbs" were forced to do so because of the assclowns who zoned out mixed commercial and residential neighborhoods, forced ordinances and codes requiring minimum lot sizes and minimum square footage in order to generate maximum property taxes, and blocked or restricted new apartment complexes that would have resulted in lower rents and encouraged people to stay in cheap rentals instead of putting their money in house payments the same or less than high-priced rents.
At the root of many evils in society and certainly responsible for traffic jams, long commutes, and high oil consumption, is zoning of all kinds. Young families are royally screwed by boards of zoning and minimum house sizes which contribute to such pathologies as dual-income families out of economic necessity, low rates of savings, and higher divorce rates. But high property values benefit city and county governments, and old people who can borrow against their equity while paying lower taxes due to property tax legislation that limits increases while young homebuyers are forced to pay higher taxes on the same value home.
Far more to this issue than just living in the suburbs.
Those assclowns were elected by an even bigger group of assclowns.
People can barely make up their minds out the D/R bullshit in Washington, but they probably can't even remember the name who they voted for to the local planning board, city council, or mayor's office, just the D or R pinted after the name when they were midlessly pulling the lever on mater's orders.
Most people's "non-partisanship" is utter bullshit, as is their mindless endorsement of Federalism.
It this a profound revelation from GOD! It is all about money, guy. Did you figure this all out by yourself or did you hsve some help?
Have you considered running for office?
Yeah, right. We left, fled, pushed out of the noisy, dusty, dirty, vomit piss dog and human shit side walk, bums, drugs, house car work break-ins robbery rapes, legions of domestic parole probation savages, goat breathed turd Wilder's, union fat slob cops, hipness pen shithole skills, fines fees permits all topped with gay snarl loser hipsters and busy
body trustfundatarians telling us what to do.
Yeah. Right.
Sorry your so pissed-off and frustrated. Take 2 aspirin and go to bed...........
Not everybody lives in California.
All the losers from other parts of the country come here after they fuck-up in their own state.
Yes, petrol is volatile.
Bought a can of paint the other day. It was fucking $49! I thought it was a mistake.
Also being hiked tolls, bus fare, taxis, subways etc. BLS says public transit is down (1.5%)?
Interesting computers also down , just no one is buying them anymore (ask Meg Whitman). The hidden iPhone "tax" isn't showing up in the BLS numbers. Wireless they say is flat, but since everyone is shutting off their landline in favor of mobile, logically that's very inflationary. The logic is justified as BLS already uses that kind of logic in the steady march of computer pricing downwards, even though $500 has bought you roughly the same level of machine since 1999 or so.
Make no mistake inflation is heating up. Here are a few selected items.
Water, sewer etc up +6.2%
Education (tuition) +10.2%
Health Insurance +15.3%
Televisions -17% Who cares?
Cable and Sattelite +5.2%
Financial Services (includes tax prep) +6.6%
Flour +18%
I could go on, source http://bls.gov/cpi/cpid1208.pdf unadjusted annual numbers.
Interesting BLS includes sales taxes, but not real estate, state and federal taxes.
PM's, energy and food investments...........
the bernank says inflation is low
Forget the gas prices, check out what I think is the price for cigs in the second pic. 8 bucks for a pack of smokes - ouch!
Glad I quit! Those politions love to tax vice......
The guy Obama appointed as his Energy Secretary said he wanted gas to be $10/gallon. Halfway there!
Yes , the academic elites do not care for us useless eaters...
Let's shoot for $6.00/gal. Media says we are already used to $4/gal gas.
At least this week the sign is still in dollars and cents. What are they going to do to the numbers next year when it hits $10?
I think that $5.99 a gallon sign would be much more effective in 3D. "Put the glasses on now. "
I favor it, to clear all the gas hogs off the road, but me thinks it is a local spike.
Try 10.00 bucks per gallon like we are already paying here in greece, Suckerz
Try 10.00 bucks per gallon like we are already paying here in greece, Suckerz
I know this gas station. On Las Vigines road at the corner of the 101. Its always expensive as there isn't a gas station (save the 3 across the street, but going the opposite direction) for 3 miles or so. Always about $1.50 more than the midwest and around $.40 more than inland stations.
Called capitalism. He/She gets what the market well bear going that way.
Those prices don't seem that outrageous? Converting the 5.69 per gallon into AUD per litre = around $1.47/litre. I don't follow petrol prices closely but I'm pretty sure I've paid that much many times before. At the monent it's around $1.33. I don't see whats so shocking about that price, or is gasoline supposed to be cheaper in America?
It's not just the price, your economy may be geared / greased to handle it.
What about auto insurance costs, distances to drive or taxes?
Unless you take in the whole picture your comparing roos to rues.
Yes, gas is supposed to be cheaper in the US. We don't have to import all of our gas via ocean as you do, and of course the tax rates and economic situations are different.
Four short years ago, the average was under $2 a gallon. It's been hovering around $4/gal for the last few months at least, even in California. The prices here jumped 50-60¢ literally overnight.
It is common here for people to drive fifty miles each way to work. My neighbor was spending $240 a WEEK to get to work, before this price spike.
No swing state will experience these prices until the election is over.
Bernanke will print up the bucks to cover the difference himself in states where hell wouldn't have to freeze over to go for Romney.
Titor right again. Get your bikes early.
Cutting edge feel good "Progressive" green gas.
UH-OH!!! Here come the moped drivers on the 405 . . .
There hasn't been a new refinery built in the U.S. for decades.I might be wrong on the years but I know it's at least thirty five.I can't even count the number of refineries that have been dismantled in Canada.I even saw a whole refinery in Alberta,Canada that was built modular.It was packed up,trucked and shipped overseas to Indonesia.Thanks to Shell.Seems like the more you save,the more government wants to squeeze you.Sure,go out and buy a new car,get yourself head over heels in debt,just to save 10 bucks a week on gas.Banksters will love you for that.It's called usury.Interest is what causes people to suffer and keeps you poor.But can you use that system in order to hold a valuable asset long enough to profit?Cars are the poorest investment a man can make unless your a pro at the classics,so try you best to leave the junk out of the equation if you want to succeed.
California needs to get rid of the "special blend". I filled my tank in AZ (I was visiting my mother) and I was due a smog check. I went the next day with only AZ gas in the vehicle and passed with flying colors (95 toyota camry)..The majority of cars burn cleaner now and the special blend does nothing INMHO to reduce emissions.
Yesterday I went grocery shopping and noticed that gas was 20 cents a gallon higher than last I looked. Then, on my way home from the grocery store it was another 20 cents a gallon higher. It was $4.69/gallon. I don't know if it was even higher today.
What I really want is a peak into the future. What will four years from now look like with respect to inflation:
Perdiction: We'll have seen every commodity based product double in price form 2012. I wonder what a world where all the prices have doubled and relative incomes have decreased looks like?
Got a old disel Benz that I converted to veg. oil. Bought it back in 08,07 when a barrel was just south of $150. Time 2 go to my friends resturant where I get all the filthy, used kitchen grease that is full of FF remains. Like mad scientists, we cook it all up in 55gal barrels and strain it w/ boot filters down to 10-20 microns. Then using aquariam pumps, put it into our old Benz's. We go to the local thrift store before we do it and buy one dollar shirts and pants. This process ruins clothes. When we are done, we throw the thrifty clothes away and drive nude back to our homes. The nude thing started as a dare. It is now a tradition. Have a nice day!
And at what stage of the process do you cook the meth that fuels your posts here?
2 find the most inexpensive gas and disel in So Cal, go to UCAN.ORG
To find the most expensive gas and disel in So Cal, stick your head up your ass and hold your breath for 5 minuites. You'll be glad you did!
I "live" in California. There are really only 3 power centers; The Google People, Hollywood Jews and California democrat legislature. Maybe the biggest farmers in the valley - they still grow A LOT of food here.
The one trend on the street this last year has been "trailers for bikes." The hot rod of the homeless are towed baby carriages built for bikes. But still not utilitarian enough. There is a growing cottage industry of building your own "bike trailer" I have also seen a few home made mopeds. Sign of the times. Look at how folks in India move around - that is where we are headed.
Glad I don't live in a big city anymore.
Confirmed. My favorite is the "plastic tote strapped to a dolly" model.
Its a good thing that the national transportation infrastructure is all geared up to handle petro shock, Its not like farmers need oil to harvest stuff and get it to the markets ... oh wait
Maybe lack of demand will win over supply. You can only milk a cow til it is dry. Maybe the barns will burn because the hay is too green. Maybe the corporation you work for will be willing to build bunk houses in their fenced complexes for you and your family or maybe FEMA will build a camp next to every corporate business in America. After all it belongs to all of us right? At least the FEMA camps will be stocked with lots of food and Bullets will be warehoused nearby. If you live near the beach Noaa will have bullets and Social Security offices are in every town. They all have an endless supply of ammunition. The government is trying to supply us with all our needs and all we gotta do is produce products for ourselves. We won't even have to carry a wallet anymore we can just get our foreheads scanned. Maybe GOD will come in DECEMBER and end all this insane nonsense.
The minimum wage is now at one cereal box an hour.
Do not panic, In The Netherlands the gasprice for a Gallon is USD 13,=!! We have gotten dumb about gasprices...We pay tax on VAT here..and still people are not rioting. Crazy, not?