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A Taste Of Unleaded Things To Come

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In a follow-up to our discussion yesterday - and perhaps a haunting vision of days to come if the tensions that are so rapidly rising in the Middle East actually spill over - is this chart from Bloomberg of the massive spike in California gas prices. How will this impact the California economy? Especially now they can't count on all that Facebook capital gains tax? Think this is only those silly West Coast 'techies' problem? Think again, as news today is discussing the redirection of fuel supplies to the West Coast, which will inevitably mean a rise in broad US fuel costs as the shortage picture equilibrates.

  • EXXON ALLOCATES FUEL TO WEST COAST TERMINAL CUSTOMERS :XOM US

 

 

Chart: Bloomberg Chart of the Day

 

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Fri, 10/05/2012 - 13:59 | 2860332 lolmao500
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People are already hoarding and fighting over average gas prices... Can you imagine when FOOD runs out?? It's gonna be a riot... literally and figuratively.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:02 | 2860347 spentCartridge
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160 billion rounds of ammo ...

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:04 | 2860357 icanhasbailout
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Scary - DHS might could kill up to five people with that!

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:08 | 2860377 RSBriggs
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That's the "official" civilian estimate.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:30 | 2860467 Richard Chesler
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On related news, the benbernank is working on an engine fueled exclusively by freshly minted dollars.

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:41 | 2860522 Da55id
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Bought a Chevy Volt in August and have driven 2000 miles. No gas purchased, 6 gallons remain in the tank after having used 1.5 gallons that the dealer "installed". Say what you will about the Volt, but none of this gas stuff matters to me anymore. I grin all the time now.

ok - junk away

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:43 | 2860527 Zap Powerz
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Thats a cool story bro.  Can you pull your boat with it?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:46 | 2860545 icanhasbailout
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no but when electricity is too expensive for the middle class you can always light the house with the battery fire

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:06 | 2860627 Da55id
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number of Volts that have caught fires in real driving - ZERO.

 

what about gas cars ? Two Hundred and Eighty Seven Thousand.

 

Facts are our friends.

 

Abstract from www.nfpa.org/assets/files/pdf/vehicleexecsum.pdf

In 2003-2007, U.S. fire departments responded to an average of 287,000 vehicle fires per 

year.  These fires caused an average of 480 civilian deaths, 1,525 civilian injuries, and $1.3 

billion in direct property damage annually.  Cars, trucks and other highway vehicles 

(meaning a vehicle designed for highway use, not that the fire occurred on a highway) 

accounted for 93% of the vehicle fires and 92% of the vehicle fire deaths.  Data from the 

U.S. Fire Administration’s (USFA’s) National Fire Incident Reporting System (NFIRS) and 

the National Fire Protection Association’s (NFPA’s) annual fire department experience 

survey are used to provide details about the types of vehicles involved in fire and the 

circumstances of highway vehicle fires. 

Mechanical or electrical failures caused roughly three-quarters of the highway vehicle fires, 

but only 11% of the deaths.  Collisions and overturns were factors contributing to the ignition 

in only 3% of the fires, but fires resulting from these incidents caused 58% of these vehicle 

fire deaths.  Older teens and young adults are the age groups at highest risk of highway 

vehicle fire death and injuries.  One-third (35%) of non-fatal highway vehicle fires injuries 

occurred when civilians attempted to fight the fire themselves.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:15 | 2860662 saturn
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Looks like chart of the Iranian currency inverted :)

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 17:50 | 2861221 Muppet of the U...
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I'm sorry this is offtopic and innapropriate. But I have to begin looking.  I can't do this myself anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ-OHqCbrZk

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 21:24 | 2861869 jerry_theking_lawler
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this douche is wearing lipstick.....or at least gloss.....fail.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 00:59 | 2862217 Muppet of the U...
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O_o

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:21 | 2860689 Bicycle Repairman
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"“Product supply in California has tightened, especially in Southern California, due to refinery outages,” Bill Day, a Valero spokesman at the company’s headquarters in San Antonio, said by e-mail. "

Oh Jeez.  Refinery outages.  Again.  Well, it must be God's will.  Man, refining oil is like brain surgery.  I'm glad we only let a very few ultra qualified folks do it.  Can you imagine what would happen if we let other people do it and there were more refineries?

Chaos.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:43 | 2860790 icanhasbailout
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"number of Volts that have caught fires in real driving - ZERO."

 

That's because nobody drives them, duh

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:47 | 2860804 francis_sawyer
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Statistically speaking... They're probably more likely to spontaneously combust on the 'dealer stuffing' acerage lot where most of them are parked waiting for birds to come shit on them...

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:23 | 2861299 DCFusor
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Wrong.  Given the same time since product release, they are outselling Priuses and the numbers go up every month.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:58 | 2861624 icanhasbailout
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go and read some 'channel stuffing' articles and say that again with a straight face

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:03 | 2860865 KK Tipton
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Car fires. Many deaths.

 

Because the US is too fucking dumb to use safe diesel everywhere.

Gasoline is a dangerous, inefficient fuel.
The US Military won't even use it.

"Gasoline was not invented, it is a natural by-product of the petroleum industry, kerosene being the principal product. Gasoline is produced by distillation, the separating of the volatile, more valuable fractions of crude petroleum. However, what was invented were the numerous processes and agents needed to improve the quality of gasoline making it a better commodity."

Basically a scam fuel. Now cut with corn squeezins'

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:22 | 2860946 otto skorzeny
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US military uses that $30 a gallon bio-fuel.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:02 | 2860605 Da55id
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I don't own a boat.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:25 | 2860704 CommunityStandard
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Same here.  Lost mine in a terrible accident - along with all my gold.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:31 | 2860728 fuu
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Where?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:51 | 2860827 icanhasbailout
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his boat ran into mine in the waters directly above the Mariana Trench... a true tragedy, both of us lost all our gold in the process

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:15 | 2860850 notbot
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Your results clearly arent typical. The avg person Pays $40,000 for a $18,000 car and saves 500 bucks on gas, but quadruples electricity bill.  Not a good trade.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:21 | 2861296 DCFusor
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See gm-volt.com or voltstats.net for true numbers recorded automatically.  No one's electricity bill has quadrupled.  You are zero percent correct.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 13:43 | 2862956 malek
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Recorded automatically? You must be fucking kiddin' me!!

The only thing recorded on voltstats.net is the miles driven and gallons of gasoline used (if any), but they don't measure or record the kWh used to recharge the batteries.

Instead they assume an MPGe of 93!
Now how fucked up is that???

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:59 | 2860596 daxtonbrown
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I have a paid for 67 Camaro. With the $40,000 I save not buying a Volt, I can drive 120,000 miles and still have a car worth the same as a Volt, which would then be worthless.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:19 | 2861287 DCFusor
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And how much extra did you figure in for maintenance on another 120k miles?  Zero?  Dream on buddy.  And you also seem to be assuming the price of gasoline will not rise further, same mistake they all made when they told me my solar would never pay off.  Newer GM cars are just getting broken in at 120k miles - metallurgy has improved my friend.  And Volts don't cost 40k unless you don't pay any taxes to get the rebate, and don't haggle on the price.  Not to mention, they'll out handle, outperform in general, be quieter, see out better and are far quieter than your camaro, I know, I owned one myself.  No comparison, that thing is a collectors item, but also a dinosaur.

The Volt is a luxury car that eats ricky rice racer for breakfast on the twisties.  Come on down and try me....

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:26 | 2861500 Hacked Economy
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My previous (made-in-America) truck ran for 18 years, and didn't give up the ghost until 487,000 miles.

I like the idea of an electric vehicle, but until they're reliable, I'll stay with the classics.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 22:07 | 2861971 Angus McHugepenis
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Four years ago I bought a 1988 Ford F150 long box extended cab truck for $1,000 with only 100,000 original miles on it. The rancher guy only used it to haul his horse trailer with all those years. It eats gas like a pig due to low rear end gears and a V8 engine and it's only a 2 wheel drive. Can't imagine the cost to fuel and run it if it was 4x4. It doesn't owe me anything now. I keep it as a well maintained reserve vehicle and it's ready to use any time I need it. Starts in -35 weather with nothing more than a couple extra cranks from the starter. Never had to plug it in to keep it warm.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:06 | 2860622 PivotalTrades
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OK Genius 

AVG Paid Volt = $37,000

Malibu = $22,000

As per your figures you drive 1000mi/month

Malibu gets 37mpg = 27gallon/mnth @$4.20c/gallon = @113/monht savings

Takes 11 Years driving that piece of shit to amortize cost difference.

Not counting avg 7,000 dollar subsidy

or any electric cost...

You must be voting for Obama because you are a Moron

 

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:13 | 2860658 Da55id
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thanks for the compliment on my intelligence. I pay $169 per month for my two year lease. I used to pay $300 per month for gas and now pay $30 per month for electricity. I made a killer deal. This is Zerohedge right? It's about making good trades and investments Right? 300-(169+30)= $101 positive cash flow. This is net cash in my pocket. 

As to subsidy, I own a house. No one has ever complained that I shelter my own earnings by deducting my mortgage interest. If you own a home with a mortgage, for your assertion to make sense morally, you should be willing to publicly forswear taking that deduction...

I am a utilitarian. I make money every month. I pass gas stations. I got a killer deal.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:22 | 2860698 PivotalTrades
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Nice try

The facts are as I stated them.

You two year lease figure on a 37,000 car is an outright lie.

But then again truth and fairness is never part of the Democratic way

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:33 | 2860748 Da55id
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I did not lie. I may have gotten the best deal in the country, so my deal was not typical. Ally was passing the tax credit through and the dealer took 4500 off invoice due to GM's "high volume dealer" deal and the car was a dealer demo with 2012 (yes, really) miles on the odo. Ally assigned it a high residual value. Like I said - it was an excellent transaction.

I'm certain that you are a gentleman in real life, and I salute your passion.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:49 | 2860816 PivotalTrades
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Listen you are probably a gentleman also.

The facts as I stated them remain.

The reason they cant sell them ARE JUST THOSE FACTS.

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:44 | 2861022 tahoebumsmith
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I'm not buying your bullshit lease story! You can't lease a Hyundai for $ 169 a month without coming up with at least 2 grand out of pocket. In order to get the lease you describe, Ally would have had to residualize the 24 month lease for more then invoice on the car. They may be fucking stupid but their not that stupid! Did you forget about the Escalade you traded in that you owned outright? Don't be a moron with your shit ass grin and try to hoodwink those who actually have a clue!

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:52 | 2861056 Da55id
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Y'know, I thought the same thing...geez! I couldn't buy a Pinto for this monthly payment. But then, when the Pinto was for sale, interest rates for a car loan were 15%- - now they're zero. I paid $99 dealer delivery fee. $300 earnest money which was set against the first payment. No trade in. I paid $500 to have the car delivered from out of state. But really, none of this negates the first point:

I don't have to care about gas prices or availability.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 17:09 | 2861106 Citxmech
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The whole issue is not just tied to the montly expense of the car.  The dust-to-dust costs - including disposal costs and replacement batteries must be factored in.

The most important issue, IMHO, is not how many gallons of gas you need or don't need - the big problem is that everything else becomes more expensive as oil prices rise.  You could ride a bike or walk, but when food inflation hits double digits due to machinery, transport and fertilizer costs, we'll have societal problems that can't be fixed even if they hand out ObamaVolts to everyone.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:09 | 2861258 DCFusor
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I just traded in my Camaro and wrote a check for the rest, on my Volt.  I charge it off my solar, and intend to keep it quite some time.  Had it a year.  When I took it in for inspection, it really wowed all the mechanics - the original tool marks are still on the brake rotors on all 4 corners, because regenerative braking works so well (and puts "energy" back into the tank - try that with a camaro).

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:16 | 2861281 HelluvaEngineer
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Why on earth would a Camaro need fucking brakes?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:33 | 2861524 aerojet
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We all want to believe in the tooth fairy and unicorns that shit skittles, but unfortunately, reality just doesn't work that way.  Original tool marks?  How the hell is that even possible?  First of all, the rotors have to come into contact with the brake pads, regenerative braking or not. Second, tool marks on any finished piece aren't really a sign of quality workmanship, but I guess some could be acceptable on a brake rotor.

Don't the batteries on the Volt degrade over time?  Kind of like on a laptop?  So, for the first year, you're doing great and not buying much case, but then year two, some degradation, and on and on until the batteries are toast and you're running 100% off the too-tiny gasoline engine?  With these electrics and hybrids, you're not getting any miles for free, you're just delaying the cost by having an expensive battery pack replacement down the road.  Yes, you can sell the car to some other sucker before it needs new batteries, but the point is that the car has a limited lifespan before a major expense is required and as more and more of these cars hit the used market, the suckers will begin to grow wise and lowball the price on any of these cars that are in imminent danger of battery failure. 

I want to believe that there are ways to improve the efficiency of cars using hybrid technology, electric motors, or whatever.  We aren't there yet, though.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 23:52 | 2862139 lakecity55
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TANSTAAFL.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:16 | 2860669 localsavage
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Don't confuse him with facts in $$$$.   The thing that I have seen lately is the change from the mini van to the Prius / Leaf / Volt as the go to cars for bad drivers and idiots in general.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:35 | 2861536 aerojet
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Hey, at least they do us the favor of self-identifying.  Every damn Prius I pass--there sits some constipated looking goofball behind the wheel, always going about 5-10mph below the speed limit because the car tells them to.  The Big Wheel I had as a kid offered better acceleration than a Prius.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:17 | 2860670 localsavage
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Don't confuse him with facts in $$$$.   The thing that I have seen lately is the change from the mini van to the Prius / Leaf / Volt as the go to cars for bad drivers and idiots in general.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:05 | 2860877 in-Credible Banker
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Serious question....what is the cost to charge the Volt over those 2k miles?  How much is the electric bill????

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 17:05 | 2861089 Da55id
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Thank you for the serious question. My rate per kwh is 0.11. My net change is $30 per month. So, $60 for 2000 miles. This is what my bills reflect.

Here is some math

$30 per mo/0.11 per kw = 272 kw purchased per month

272 kw * 4 miles per kw = 1088 calculated miles per month.

 

cheers

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:11 | 2861261 DCFusor
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Were I not fully off grid, it would work out for me like gasoline was about 1.25/gallon for power company power.  For that charge (which takes about 13.3 kwh), I get around 50 miles in summer, about 35 in winter - the heater is a power hog.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 17:34 | 2861175 Zymurguy
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Good for you, brah.  I wish I lived close enoug to my workplace to benefit from a vehicle like the Volt.  I think they are good looking cars and can offer a lot of folks a great commuter car.

Get rid of that old fuel in the tank tho' brah.  It'll go bad on ya and then ruin your fuel filters, fuel injectors, etc.

I just wish they fooking would have put 3 seats in the back... what the fook, mahn?  I've got 3 mahn cubs that have to ride in the back.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 17:55 | 2861227 DCFusor
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I see they did junk away.  My Volt is showing 182 mpg after one year - I force it to burn gas in winter for better heat.  The junking is a sign of honor - they're all just jealous or stupid, and got caught in the bankruptcy everyone paying attention knew was coming.  I bought a Camaro off the GM I shorted, then traded it in for my Volt...it's a nicer car.

Yes, there is a bumper hitch available aftermarket that hides behind the back plate.  But it won't tow anything super big and heavy.  Would you ask the same question of the underpowered Prius?

 

www.gm-volt.com is where we fan boys hang.

And I'm posting a link to this thread there for fun...tee hee.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 13:44 | 2862959 malek
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You should apply to work for the BLS, as you're already perfect in bullshitting statistics.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:39 | 2861548 petolo
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Not when you open your electric bill, eh ? If i remember fron high school to transform energy, takes energy. Ergo, to change oil, coal, natural gas to electricity and run it through miles of cable with resistance to bootyour plug-in would seem to require a lot of energy. Correct me if i,m wrong.

 

Real horsepower with 4 legs and producer ofof horse-shit and foals would seem the height of efficiency. Not a panacea but more sensible than some over-engineered china built junque.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 06:04 | 2862374 Urban Redneck
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August, September, October, do you know what Pri-D is?  If not, your mechanic (and Paul Krugman) will soon have a much broader grin...

"none of this gas stuff matters to me anymore" = stupid in any language.  By the way- unless you grow all your own food, make your own electricity, and have big old stack of PMs to buy all the clothes, tools, iCrap and everything else that you will need/consume for the rest of your life, then the cost of energy is worth paying attention to.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:09 | 2860381 malikai
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NYPD could kill millions. But it probably wouldn't be who they were shooting at..

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:18 | 2860416 Element
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Interesting you should mention New York, because the gas price there is also almost matching the average levels in California.

http://www.californiagasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:24 | 2860427 CrashisOptimistic
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There is a quiet little fiscal reality associated with all this.

If California can't sell gasoline because there are shortages, then gas tax on that gasoline isn't collected.

And if they request other states send them gasoline, then that gasoline sent doesn't get sold in those other states and THEIR gas tax isn't collected.  Unless . . . unless they insist that California pay the state tax on the gasoline that they ship there.  That would mean California tax payers will be paying state gas tax to Nevada or Utah or Montana or Arizona.  That should help the Calif fiscal deficit, yes?

Welcome to yet another episode of oil scarcity.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:38 | 2860506 greensnacks
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Amazon charges sales tax now for California residents. We are saved!

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:02 | 2860607 johnQpublic
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i can buy gas at amazon?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:40 | 2860513 A L I E N
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But they said they could keep manipulate the price of crude, gold, and silver down forever with no unintended consequences..

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:41 | 2860518 Bicycle Repairman
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Almost all of the USA petroleum comes from the Western Hemisphere, but no doubt the "troubles" in the ME are causing these price rises during an election season.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:13 | 2860651 KK Tipton
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Spot on Crash.

 

Clusterfuck Nation

"The biggest mis-allocation of resources in human history" or something to that effect.

Every type of resource pretty much.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:56 | 2860852 MillionDollarBoner_
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...and only three would be co-workers...

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:05 | 2860359 Cognitive Dissonance
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We are all only three square meals away from chaos and riots. Got (dehydrated) Milk?

<Maybe Just-In-Time delivery wasn't such a good idea after all.>

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:19 | 2860415 Metalredneck
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Lactose intolerant.  i do, however, live 300 yards from the biggest, freshest, deepest body of water in North America.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:32 | 2860466 Cognitive Dissonance
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You mean the Assumption Parish, Louisiana sinkhole? :)

I hear is getting worse.....quickly by some accounts. Lots of formerly dry land around the sink hole is suddenly very very wet. Can you say subsidence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5s43goAVA&feature=plcp

http://assumptionla.wordpress.com/

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:37 | 2860502 samsara
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I took it to mean Lake Superior

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:44 | 2860528 Oh regional Indian
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You Sir, are a literalist with a clear knowledge of large water bodies.

ori

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:57 | 2860863 MillionDollarBoner_
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Have you checked out the bottom of that "large water body"?

Might be some PMs down there, lost in recent "boating incidents".

There a lot of it about, apparently...

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 23:09 | 2862081 Totentänzerlied
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littoralist ;)

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 23:09 | 2862082 Totentänzerlied
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littoralist ;)

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:43 | 2860530 Cognitive Dissonance
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I did as well. But I grabbed the opportunity to highlight a slow motion car wreck playing out in Louisiana.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:38 | 2860504 Oh regional Indian
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Could the most high be signalling so obviously you think CD?

All your assumptions will shortly Parish!!! ;-)

ori

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:45 | 2860540 Cognitive Dissonance
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I.Can't.Hear.You

<I think my rabbit ears are crossed. Or plugged.>

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:36 | 2860497 JPM Hater001
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Ah the Great Lakes.  I know the Michigan one well.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:05 | 2860619 RSBriggs
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Yeah me too.  I had a boating accident on it.  Damn bad luck I had all my PMs in the boat at the time.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:31 | 2860731 franzpick
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Exactly where was your accident?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:54 | 2861400 THX 1178
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Head North by South-North, bear East by West-East.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:07 | 2860375 JuliaS
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Mad Max was a documentary.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:13 | 2860397 Cognitive Dissonance
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More like predictive programming.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:20 | 2860419 Metalredneck
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Soon to be Reality TV.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:19 | 2860680 Mad Max
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There won't be TV a day after the Mad Max scenario starts playing out.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:43 | 2860526 Id fight Gandhi
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Who run bartertown?!

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:15 | 2860402 Stoploss
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Yeah, i remember 35 years ago when Jimmy had us in the same spot. 

When the lines come, and they will, it is a good idea to keep a set of extra liscense plates handy, so you have both odd and even plate numbers.

That's how we did it back in the day.

 

Bitchezzzz..

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:19 | 2860414 Cognitive Dissonance
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Anyone who lived (and drove) through the 70's remembers this drill. Headed down to the DMV now to register a junk car.

<May I have even numbers please. Silly Mrs Cog is so superstitious. Thanks!>

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:25 | 2860440 Dr. Richard Head
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So glad I kept the "RP 2012" vanity plates and the current set of plates that ends in 6669.  Brilliant.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:34 | 2860491 akak
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It must have been largely a Californian or West Coast thing, as we never had any gas lines in Michigan at any time during the 1970s.  I can remember seeing them on TV in other parts of the country, though.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:19 | 2860681 devo
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No, we had them on the east coast (ny/nj)

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:59 | 2860595 blu
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Dude your memory must be failing otherwise you would remember how we got around the even-odd-days thing: Have two sets of plates, change them every day. Fill up any day you want that way. If you don't have two cars with the right plates, steal someone's plates to compliment your own. Nothing but answers to your problems, around here.

That was also when the country first heard of locking gas caps. What a shock, going out to get into the Dodge and finding the tank empty and a suspicious gas spot on the driveway. It's happened to me once already recently, though I haven't actually checked the Powerwagon to see if it has any fuel in it at the moment. That's the problem with having a pre-oil-shock '68 vintage, didn't come with the locking cap, and now I can't find one. I'll have to weld a shackle over the cap and put a lock on it.

~ coog

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:13 | 2860637 Cognitive Dissonance
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Thus you register a junk car....to aquire a second set of legal plates.

Any plates that I stole I quickly resold. Let someone else get caught with stolen plates.

<Oops, was that my out-loud voice?>

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 17:47 | 2861212 blu
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Pah! I drive my junk cars, except for junk I ain't even got a car.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 21:30 | 2861886 Angus McHugepenis
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The Newfies have a saying: "If ya buy junk bye, ya always has junk"!

"Stay where yur to, I'll come where ya at".

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:51 | 2860706 devo
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bullish for locking gas caps, bitchez!

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 10:04 | 2862382 Urban Redneck
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Fat lazy impatient iTurds aren't going to work a siphon pump, when they can leverage gravity with a screwdriver.

Long high-capacity rolling drip pans (too bad Blitz went belly up last year, perhaps if more Americans were willing to pay more and buy American instead of opting for cheap Walmart Chicom Crap)

http://www.blitzusa.com/products/oil/Oil%20Drains%20and%20Pans/podpcc58o...

Or for the elite- self sealing puncture resisant fuel tanks

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:26 | 2860713 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

That was also when the country first heard of locking gas caps.

...which was a direct result of the country first hearing of a West Virginia credit card (also known as a five gallon can and a siphon hose).

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 00:49 | 2862205 Angus McHugepenis
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I guess Jamie (girls name) Dimon has one hell of  big gas can and siphon hose!

...which was a direct result of the country first hearing of a West Virginia credit card (also known as a five gallon can and a siphon hose).

Priceless!

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:45 | 2861577 aerojet
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That makes no sense--you needed to buy gas every day?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:00 | 2860600 Ruffcut
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The assholes that run this shithole want 5 buck gas. I've been saying it.

Dislocation against the crude, bitchezz.

Glad I'm not in cali.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:02 | 2860335 Cognitive Dissonance
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Cailfornia Dreamin'

<Of cheaper gasoline.>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:01 | 2860336 fonzannoon
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but the freakin tv is telling me prices are dropping.....

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:03 | 2860353 CapitalistRock
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Me too. The propaganda machine in my living room still says we need to be vigilant in the fight against deflation.

What's this conspiracy theory about rising gas prices??

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:26 | 2860446 Dr. Richard Head
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That's just stimulation for dick trickle down job creation from the oil companies.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:34 | 2860479 pods
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Dick Trickle.

Best. Name.  Ever.

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:38 | 2860769 franzpick
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Paging 'Mike Hunt'. "Mike Hunt' to the front desk please.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:02 | 2861426 DosZap
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Then WHY are we still exporting 28% of ALL the gasoline we refine???

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 00:04 | 2862151 KK Tipton
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Somebody is making a profit on it.

 

But the real, actual answer is: misallocation of resources.

If Obama banned gasoline exports, he might be hailed as a hero.
Wait till there's no choice in the matter. Then it will be fun times in the USA.

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:00 | 2860339 Jim B
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CA....  Couldn't happen to a dumber state! 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:04 | 2860356 semperfi
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Calif voters are morons. 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:06 | 2860366 lolmao500
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Well, Feinstein, Pelosi and Waxman keep getting reelected...not to mention Swarzi elected twice... so I would say yes.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:13 | 2860395 machineh
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Why not just release oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve -- it's in LA!

Oops ... Louisiana, Los Angeles ... what's the difference?

One difference is that exotic lifeforms such as Feinstein, Pelosi and Waxman do not thrive in Louisiana.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:20 | 2860423 SoCalBusted
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The shift in weight may cause the country to tip over

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:29 | 2860470 malikai
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What makes you think those things are alive?

I was always under the impression they were robots. Ones like the Pelosi model being subject to significant decay and requiring constant upkeep of the unit's outer coating and interior wiring.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:31 | 2860472 EverythingEviL
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Again you are the moron for thinking voting has anything to do with it....voting is a joke

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:02 | 2860609 Ruffcut
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Fuck you, jokes are funny.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:11 | 2860390 Agent P
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I'm from Illinois, and I'd like to challenge that statement.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:34 | 2860481 Dr. Engali
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I know a lot of people from Illinois and you don't have a dumb state...you just have one dumb big city that screws up the rest of the state.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:45 | 2860544 samsara
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The same is true for UpState New York,  and the City State New York City

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:53 | 2860575 malikai
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Two, Chicago and equally important is Springfield. They are both tremendously successful at screwing things up while enriching themselves.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:04 | 2860618 Ruffcut
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Springfield is where Homer is. What did you expect?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:01 | 2860341 css1971
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Again... I'm paying ~$9 so don't see all the fuss.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:07 | 2860358 Cursive
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@css1971

Cheap gas is an American birthright.  It's in the fucking Constitution.  Right next to free cell phones (means-tested, of course, old boy).  If mogas reached $9/gal. here in the next year, surburbia house prices would plummet another 50% and there would definitely be more bath salts cannibal episodes, just without the bath salts.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:10 | 2860386 Cognitive Dissonance
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Cheap gas is exactly why we borrow "spend" 50% of the world's total outlay on military toyz for the boyz.

Got Milk an F22/35?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:27 | 2860450 Dr. Richard Head
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5% of the world population, blowing through 50% of the earth's resources.  American exceptionalism.  AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 22:39 | 2869757 Ident 7777 economy
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Dr. Richard Head carps:


"5% of the world population, blowing through 50% of the earth's resources.  American exceptionalism.  AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!"

 

Shit-stupid Dr. Head reveals himself as an ignoramus again: we also produce 21% of the word's GOODS ... US is the world's largest manufacturing economy, producing 21 percent of global manufactured products. 

 

AND we do this with only 4.6% of the world's population while consuming only 25% of the world's energy (Where does Dr. Shit-stupid come up with a 50% figure?)

 

Back to the production department, China is second at 15 percent and Japan is third at 12 percent.

 

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:07 | 2860369 1eyedman
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but I'd bet your transportation infrastructure is a little different than in the US.  americans cannot suddenly, or even gradually, choose to take public transport.

a 30 min drive would take 2 hours waiting on buses etc for anyone outside of the major cities

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:10 | 2860385 RSBriggs
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IF a bus happend to even HAVE a route in the general vicinity of your destination.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:43 | 2860786 NotApplicable
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The genuises here don't even run buses in both directions on a route, so the only way to travel is to ride the entire circuit back to your starting point. Some of these routes are over ten miles long, so you'd spend an hour in traffic at least riding it.

Then they sit around and wonder why the buses are always empty.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:19 | 2860418 spentCartridge
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Is it mostly flat?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:33 | 2860475 RSBriggs
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In a lot of places, but....  Driving through and into various urban areas is OK if you keep to the main roads, riding a bike through those same areas is liable to be suicidal. 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:44 | 2860533 spentCartridge
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Thanks.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:19 | 2860679 KK Tipton
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"Driving through and into various urban areas is OK if you keep to the main roads, riding a bike through those same areas is liable to be suicidal. "

 

I'm hoping $8 a gallon fixes that.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 23:03 | 2862070 mjcOH1
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""Driving through and into various urban areas is OK if you keep to the main roads, riding a bike through those same areas is liable to be suicidal. "

I'm hoping $8 a gallon fixes that."

 

Yep....should go from 'likely' to 'guaranteed' as word gets out the fish are running.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:01 | 2860343 Skateboarder
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Dude it shot up to $4.65 - 4.75 here in the San Jose area as of yesterday. Fuck the car, I'm biking! Time to fix that front deraileur...

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:38 | 2860772 KK Tipton
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Prices will shoot up for bike parts eventually. We make zero domestically.

Slime filled heavy duty MTB tubes are already up to $13 each at Wally World. From $9 just a few months ago.

Stock up on tires, tubes, CHAINS (critical wear part up in $$$ too), and some extra stainless brake/deraileur cables too.

 

For those who want to be ready:

Some good urban MTB tires:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=179

I roll these:
Universal Cycles -- Continental Travel Contact Tire - http://bit.ly/SIb9xV

The Continental are light, tough, fast/smooth riding while still having knobs to be able to stop quickly on a gravel shoulder.
They also hold up to sharp rocks offroad. Best all around tire I've tried (out of MANY).
Perfect city/country or trekking tire.

Maxxis also has some ultra tough MTB tires:
Universal Cycles -- Tires > Mountain Tires > Maxxis Tires - http://bit.ly/SIbAsc

For ultra speed and toughness on pavement only:
Universal Cycles -- Panaracer RiBMo Tire - http://bit.ly/SIbQHv

Panaracer rubber compound is really grippy, yet not slow. Fantastic.

These brands can't be found easily in stores or most bike shops.

 

Deal with the double thick Slime tubes. They are heavy, but paired with these linked tires you won't have flats.
I live in the most flat prone part of the country and stopped getting them.
In the future, you can't afford to be walking your bike along wild American city streets.
Literally, cause you won't be able to afford that much ammo, much less carry it with ya.

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:59 | 2860872 MillionDollarBoner_
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Dude...please tell me you don't wear Lycra...;O(

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:13 | 2860916 KK Tipton
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Lycra guys don't roll Continental trekking tires and heavy duty tubes.

 

I've got a cargo bike that can pack 150+ lbs. Nice big bags for my Gladius to ride in undercover:

Big Dummy | Bikes | Surly Bikes - http://bit.ly/R47c7W

Amazon.com: Cold Steel Gladius Machete: - http://amzn.com/B004MMS0PE

PS - You never have to reload with a Roman sword. It's sustainable and eco friendly.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 12:26 | 2862837 shovelhead
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Maximus! Maximus! Maximus!

Leader of the EBT revolt of 2013.

Turning DC into Rwanda.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:03 | 2860346 Dr. Richard Head
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Any cash left in CALPERS to "borrow" from in order stave things off for just a bit longer?  We still have a month left before the next dictator is chosen.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:02 | 2860348 oklaboy
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Just in time for the elections, how are they going to manipulate this?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:12 | 2860393 RSBriggs
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They don't have to.  Short of just outright deliberately nuking LA and SF, CA will vote blue.  End of Story.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:23 | 2860433 EverythingEviL
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It's pretty hilarious how you guys think voting has anything to do with it...morons

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:39 | 2860509 pods
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In this context it has everything to do with voting.

If California were a "swing" state you would have both puppets running around "helping" people out.

Since it ain't, you are SOL.

pods

 

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:42 | 2860524 EverythingEviL
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And you aren't SOL?  Ahahahaha

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:08 | 2860631 pods
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Your aren't going to get me to argue that this system works.  Was just saying in this context that shit would get done if Cali were a swing state.

Some votes cost more than others.  Swing state votes are the highest priced ones of all.

pods

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:46 | 2860547 RiverRoad
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 This is frickin' BAD for Obummer when he wants everybody happy and dancing in the streets.

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:03 | 2860351 malikai
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Out of curiosity, what routes are there to redirect fuel supplies to the West? Are there many pipelines in place? Wouldn't they already be used by whoever runs them?

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:04 | 2860360 fonzannoon
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look at etp today. trying to figure out what the pop is about

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:53 | 2860843 franzpick
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Buying Sunoco?

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