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A Taste Of Unleaded Things To Come
In a follow-up to our discussion yesterday - and perhaps a haunting vision of days to come if the tensions that are so rapidly rising in the Middle East actually spill over - is this chart from Bloomberg of the massive spike in California gas prices. How will this impact the California economy? Especially now they can't count on all that Facebook capital gains tax? Think this is only those silly West Coast 'techies' problem? Think again, as news today is discussing the redirection of fuel supplies to the West Coast, which will inevitably mean a rise in broad US fuel costs as the shortage picture equilibrates.
- EXXON ALLOCATES FUEL TO WEST COAST TERMINAL CUSTOMERS :XOM US
Chart: Bloomberg Chart of the Day
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People are already hoarding and fighting over average gas prices... Can you imagine when FOOD runs out?? It's gonna be a riot... literally and figuratively.
160 billion rounds of ammo ...
Scary - DHS might could kill up to five people with that!
That's the "official" civilian estimate.
On related news, the benbernank is working on an engine fueled exclusively by freshly minted dollars.
Bought a Chevy Volt in August and have driven 2000 miles. No gas purchased, 6 gallons remain in the tank after having used 1.5 gallons that the dealer "installed". Say what you will about the Volt, but none of this gas stuff matters to me anymore. I grin all the time now.
ok - junk away
Thats a cool story bro. Can you pull your boat with it?
no but when electricity is too expensive for the middle class you can always light the house with the battery fire
number of Volts that have caught fires in real driving - ZERO.
what about gas cars ? Two Hundred and Eighty Seven Thousand.
Facts are our friends.
Abstract from www.nfpa.org/assets/files/pdf/vehicleexecsum.pdf
In 2003-2007, U.S. fire departments responded to an average of 287,000 vehicle fires per
year. These fires caused an average of 480 civilian deaths, 1,525 civilian injuries, and $1.3
billion in direct property damage annually. Cars, trucks and other highway vehicles
(meaning a vehicle designed for highway use, not that the fire occurred on a highway)
accounted for 93% of the vehicle fires and 92% of the vehicle fire deaths. Data from the
U.S. Fire Administration’s (USFA’s) National Fire Incident Reporting System (NFIRS) and
the National Fire Protection Association’s (NFPA’s) annual fire department experience
survey are used to provide details about the types of vehicles involved in fire and the
circumstances of highway vehicle fires.
Mechanical or electrical failures caused roughly three-quarters of the highway vehicle fires,
but only 11% of the deaths. Collisions and overturns were factors contributing to the ignition
in only 3% of the fires, but fires resulting from these incidents caused 58% of these vehicle
fire deaths. Older teens and young adults are the age groups at highest risk of highway
vehicle fire death and injuries. One-third (35%) of non-fatal highway vehicle fires injuries
occurred when civilians attempted to fight the fire themselves.
Looks like chart of the Iranian currency inverted :)
I'm sorry this is offtopic and innapropriate. But I have to begin looking. I can't do this myself anymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ-OHqCbrZk
this douche is wearing lipstick.....or at least gloss.....fail.
O_o
"“Product supply in California has tightened, especially in Southern California, due to refinery outages,” Bill Day, a Valero spokesman at the company’s headquarters in San Antonio, said by e-mail. "
Oh Jeez. Refinery outages. Again. Well, it must be God's will. Man, refining oil is like brain surgery. I'm glad we only let a very few ultra qualified folks do it. Can you imagine what would happen if we let other people do it and there were more refineries?
Chaos.
"number of Volts that have caught fires in real driving - ZERO."
That's because nobody drives them, duh
Statistically speaking... They're probably more likely to spontaneously combust on the 'dealer stuffing' acerage lot where most of them are parked waiting for birds to come shit on them...
Wrong. Given the same time since product release, they are outselling Priuses and the numbers go up every month.
go and read some 'channel stuffing' articles and say that again with a straight face
Car fires. Many deaths.
Because the US is too fucking dumb to use safe diesel everywhere.
Gasoline is a dangerous, inefficient fuel.
The US Military won't even use it.
"Gasoline was not invented, it is a natural by-product of the petroleum industry, kerosene being the principal product. Gasoline is produced by distillation, the separating of the volatile, more valuable fractions of crude petroleum. However, what was invented were the numerous processes and agents needed to improve the quality of gasoline making it a better commodity."
Basically a scam fuel. Now cut with corn squeezins'
US military uses that $30 a gallon bio-fuel.
I don't own a boat.
Same here. Lost mine in a terrible accident - along with all my gold.
Where?
his boat ran into mine in the waters directly above the Mariana Trench... a true tragedy, both of us lost all our gold in the process
Your results clearly arent typical. The avg person Pays $40,000 for a $18,000 car and saves 500 bucks on gas, but quadruples electricity bill. Not a good trade.
See gm-volt.com or voltstats.net for true numbers recorded automatically. No one's electricity bill has quadrupled. You are zero percent correct.
Recorded automatically? You must be fucking kiddin' me!!
The only thing recorded on voltstats.net is the miles driven and gallons of gasoline used (if any), but they don't measure or record the kWh used to recharge the batteries.
Instead they assume an MPGe of 93!
Now how fucked up is that???
I have a paid for 67 Camaro. With the $40,000 I save not buying a Volt, I can drive 120,000 miles and still have a car worth the same as a Volt, which would then be worthless.
And how much extra did you figure in for maintenance on another 120k miles? Zero? Dream on buddy. And you also seem to be assuming the price of gasoline will not rise further, same mistake they all made when they told me my solar would never pay off. Newer GM cars are just getting broken in at 120k miles - metallurgy has improved my friend. And Volts don't cost 40k unless you don't pay any taxes to get the rebate, and don't haggle on the price. Not to mention, they'll out handle, outperform in general, be quieter, see out better and are far quieter than your camaro, I know, I owned one myself. No comparison, that thing is a collectors item, but also a dinosaur.
The Volt is a luxury car that eats ricky rice racer for breakfast on the twisties. Come on down and try me....
My previous (made-in-America) truck ran for 18 years, and didn't give up the ghost until 487,000 miles.
I like the idea of an electric vehicle, but until they're reliable, I'll stay with the classics.
Four years ago I bought a 1988 Ford F150 long box extended cab truck for $1,000 with only 100,000 original miles on it. The rancher guy only used it to haul his horse trailer with all those years. It eats gas like a pig due to low rear end gears and a V8 engine and it's only a 2 wheel drive. Can't imagine the cost to fuel and run it if it was 4x4. It doesn't owe me anything now. I keep it as a well maintained reserve vehicle and it's ready to use any time I need it. Starts in -35 weather with nothing more than a couple extra cranks from the starter. Never had to plug it in to keep it warm.
OK Genius
AVG Paid Volt = $37,000
Malibu = $22,000
As per your figures you drive 1000mi/month
Malibu gets 37mpg = 27gallon/mnth @$4.20c/gallon = @113/monht savings
Takes 11 Years driving that piece of shit to amortize cost difference.
Not counting avg 7,000 dollar subsidy
or any electric cost...
You must be voting for Obama because you are a Moron
thanks for the compliment on my intelligence. I pay $169 per month for my two year lease. I used to pay $300 per month for gas and now pay $30 per month for electricity. I made a killer deal. This is Zerohedge right? It's about making good trades and investments Right? 300-(169+30)= $101 positive cash flow. This is net cash in my pocket.
As to subsidy, I own a house. No one has ever complained that I shelter my own earnings by deducting my mortgage interest. If you own a home with a mortgage, for your assertion to make sense morally, you should be willing to publicly forswear taking that deduction...
I am a utilitarian. I make money every month. I pass gas stations. I got a killer deal.
Nice try
The facts are as I stated them.
You two year lease figure on a 37,000 car is an outright lie.
But then again truth and fairness is never part of the Democratic way
I did not lie. I may have gotten the best deal in the country, so my deal was not typical. Ally was passing the tax credit through and the dealer took 4500 off invoice due to GM's "high volume dealer" deal and the car was a dealer demo with 2012 (yes, really) miles on the odo. Ally assigned it a high residual value. Like I said - it was an excellent transaction.
I'm certain that you are a gentleman in real life, and I salute your passion.
Listen you are probably a gentleman also.
The facts as I stated them remain.
The reason they cant sell them ARE JUST THOSE FACTS.
I'm not buying your bullshit lease story! You can't lease a Hyundai for $ 169 a month without coming up with at least 2 grand out of pocket. In order to get the lease you describe, Ally would have had to residualize the 24 month lease for more then invoice on the car. They may be fucking stupid but their not that stupid! Did you forget about the Escalade you traded in that you owned outright? Don't be a moron with your shit ass grin and try to hoodwink those who actually have a clue!
Y'know, I thought the same thing...geez! I couldn't buy a Pinto for this monthly payment. But then, when the Pinto was for sale, interest rates for a car loan were 15%- - now they're zero. I paid $99 dealer delivery fee. $300 earnest money which was set against the first payment. No trade in. I paid $500 to have the car delivered from out of state. But really, none of this negates the first point:
I don't have to care about gas prices or availability.
The whole issue is not just tied to the montly expense of the car. The dust-to-dust costs - including disposal costs and replacement batteries must be factored in.
The most important issue, IMHO, is not how many gallons of gas you need or don't need - the big problem is that everything else becomes more expensive as oil prices rise. You could ride a bike or walk, but when food inflation hits double digits due to machinery, transport and fertilizer costs, we'll have societal problems that can't be fixed even if they hand out ObamaVolts to everyone.
I just traded in my Camaro and wrote a check for the rest, on my Volt. I charge it off my solar, and intend to keep it quite some time. Had it a year. When I took it in for inspection, it really wowed all the mechanics - the original tool marks are still on the brake rotors on all 4 corners, because regenerative braking works so well (and puts "energy" back into the tank - try that with a camaro).
Why on earth would a Camaro need fucking brakes?
We all want to believe in the tooth fairy and unicorns that shit skittles, but unfortunately, reality just doesn't work that way. Original tool marks? How the hell is that even possible? First of all, the rotors have to come into contact with the brake pads, regenerative braking or not. Second, tool marks on any finished piece aren't really a sign of quality workmanship, but I guess some could be acceptable on a brake rotor.
Don't the batteries on the Volt degrade over time? Kind of like on a laptop? So, for the first year, you're doing great and not buying much case, but then year two, some degradation, and on and on until the batteries are toast and you're running 100% off the too-tiny gasoline engine? With these electrics and hybrids, you're not getting any miles for free, you're just delaying the cost by having an expensive battery pack replacement down the road. Yes, you can sell the car to some other sucker before it needs new batteries, but the point is that the car has a limited lifespan before a major expense is required and as more and more of these cars hit the used market, the suckers will begin to grow wise and lowball the price on any of these cars that are in imminent danger of battery failure.
I want to believe that there are ways to improve the efficiency of cars using hybrid technology, electric motors, or whatever. We aren't there yet, though.
TANSTAAFL.
Don't confuse him with facts in $$$$. The thing that I have seen lately is the change from the mini van to the Prius / Leaf / Volt as the go to cars for bad drivers and idiots in general.
Hey, at least they do us the favor of self-identifying. Every damn Prius I pass--there sits some constipated looking goofball behind the wheel, always going about 5-10mph below the speed limit because the car tells them to. The Big Wheel I had as a kid offered better acceleration than a Prius.
Don't confuse him with facts in $$$$. The thing that I have seen lately is the change from the mini van to the Prius / Leaf / Volt as the go to cars for bad drivers and idiots in general.
Serious question....what is the cost to charge the Volt over those 2k miles? How much is the electric bill????
Thank you for the serious question. My rate per kwh is 0.11. My net change is $30 per month. So, $60 for 2000 miles. This is what my bills reflect.
Here is some math
$30 per mo/0.11 per kw = 272 kw purchased per month
272 kw * 4 miles per kw = 1088 calculated miles per month.
cheers
Were I not fully off grid, it would work out for me like gasoline was about 1.25/gallon for power company power. For that charge (which takes about 13.3 kwh), I get around 50 miles in summer, about 35 in winter - the heater is a power hog.
Good for you, brah. I wish I lived close enoug to my workplace to benefit from a vehicle like the Volt. I think they are good looking cars and can offer a lot of folks a great commuter car.
Get rid of that old fuel in the tank tho' brah. It'll go bad on ya and then ruin your fuel filters, fuel injectors, etc.
I just wish they fooking would have put 3 seats in the back... what the fook, mahn? I've got 3 mahn cubs that have to ride in the back.
I see they did junk away. My Volt is showing 182 mpg after one year - I force it to burn gas in winter for better heat. The junking is a sign of honor - they're all just jealous or stupid, and got caught in the bankruptcy everyone paying attention knew was coming. I bought a Camaro off the GM I shorted, then traded it in for my Volt...it's a nicer car.
Yes, there is a bumper hitch available aftermarket that hides behind the back plate. But it won't tow anything super big and heavy. Would you ask the same question of the underpowered Prius?
www.gm-volt.com is where we fan boys hang.
And I'm posting a link to this thread there for fun...tee hee.
You should apply to work for the BLS, as you're already perfect in bullshitting statistics.
Not when you open your electric bill, eh ? If i remember fron high school to transform energy, takes energy. Ergo, to change oil, coal, natural gas to electricity and run it through miles of cable with resistance to bootyour plug-in would seem to require a lot of energy. Correct me if i,m wrong.
Real horsepower with 4 legs and producer ofof horse-shit and foals would seem the height of efficiency. Not a panacea but more sensible than some over-engineered china built junque.
August, September, October, do you know what Pri-D is? If not, your mechanic (and Paul Krugman) will soon have a much broader grin...
"none of this gas stuff matters to me anymore" = stupid in any language. By the way- unless you grow all your own food, make your own electricity, and have big old stack of PMs to buy all the clothes, tools, iCrap and everything else that you will need/consume for the rest of your life, then the cost of energy is worth paying attention to.
NYPD could kill millions. But it probably wouldn't be who they were shooting at..
Interesting you should mention New York, because the gas price there is also almost matching the average levels in California.
http://www.californiagasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx
There is a quiet little fiscal reality associated with all this.
If California can't sell gasoline because there are shortages, then gas tax on that gasoline isn't collected.
And if they request other states send them gasoline, then that gasoline sent doesn't get sold in those other states and THEIR gas tax isn't collected. Unless . . . unless they insist that California pay the state tax on the gasoline that they ship there. That would mean California tax payers will be paying state gas tax to Nevada or Utah or Montana or Arizona. That should help the Calif fiscal deficit, yes?
Welcome to yet another episode of oil scarcity.
Amazon charges sales tax now for California residents. We are saved!
i can buy gas at amazon?
But they said they could keep manipulate the price of crude, gold, and silver down forever with no unintended consequences..
Almost all of the USA petroleum comes from the Western Hemisphere, but no doubt the "troubles" in the ME are causing these price rises during an election season.
Spot on Crash.
Clusterfuck Nation
"The biggest mis-allocation of resources in human history" or something to that effect.
Every type of resource pretty much.
very funny, and sadly true.
http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2012/08/nothing-happens-by-accident.html
...and only three would be co-workers...
We are all only three square meals away from chaos and riots. Got (dehydrated) Milk?
<Maybe Just-In-Time delivery wasn't such a good idea after all.>
Lactose intolerant. i do, however, live 300 yards from the biggest, freshest, deepest body of water in North America.
You mean the Assumption Parish, Louisiana sinkhole? :)
I hear is getting worse.....quickly by some accounts. Lots of formerly dry land around the sink hole is suddenly very very wet. Can you say subsidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5s43goAVA&feature=plcp
http://assumptionla.wordpress.com/
I took it to mean Lake Superior
You Sir, are a literalist with a clear knowledge of large water bodies.
ori
Have you checked out the bottom of that "large water body"?
Might be some PMs down there, lost in recent "boating incidents".
There a lot of it about, apparently...
littoralist ;)
littoralist ;)
I did as well. But I grabbed the opportunity to highlight a slow motion car wreck playing out in Louisiana.
Could the most high be signalling so obviously you think CD?
All your assumptions will shortly Parish!!! ;-)
ori
I.Can't.Hear.You
<I think my rabbit ears are crossed. Or plugged.>
Ah the Great Lakes. I know the Michigan one well.
Yeah me too. I had a boating accident on it. Damn bad luck I had all my PMs in the boat at the time.
Exactly where was your accident?
Head North by South-North, bear East by West-East.
Mad Max was a documentary.
More like predictive programming.
Soon to be Reality TV.
There won't be TV a day after the Mad Max scenario starts playing out.
Who run bartertown?!
Yeah, i remember 35 years ago when Jimmy had us in the same spot.
When the lines come, and they will, it is a good idea to keep a set of extra liscense plates handy, so you have both odd and even plate numbers.
That's how we did it back in the day.
Bitchezzzz..
Anyone who lived (and drove) through the 70's remembers this drill. Headed down to the DMV now to register a junk car.
<May I have even numbers please. Silly Mrs Cog is so superstitious. Thanks!>
So glad I kept the "RP 2012" vanity plates and the current set of plates that ends in 6669. Brilliant.
It must have been largely a Californian or West Coast thing, as we never had any gas lines in Michigan at any time during the 1970s. I can remember seeing them on TV in other parts of the country, though.
No, we had them on the east coast (ny/nj)
Dude your memory must be failing otherwise you would remember how we got around the even-odd-days thing: Have two sets of plates, change them every day. Fill up any day you want that way. If you don't have two cars with the right plates, steal someone's plates to compliment your own. Nothing but answers to your problems, around here.
That was also when the country first heard of locking gas caps. What a shock, going out to get into the Dodge and finding the tank empty and a suspicious gas spot on the driveway. It's happened to me once already recently, though I haven't actually checked the Powerwagon to see if it has any fuel in it at the moment. That's the problem with having a pre-oil-shock '68 vintage, didn't come with the locking cap, and now I can't find one. I'll have to weld a shackle over the cap and put a lock on it.
~ coog
Thus you register a junk car....to aquire a second set of legal plates.
Any plates that I stole I quickly resold. Let someone else get caught with stolen plates.
<Oops, was that my out-loud voice?>
Pah! I drive my junk cars, except for junk I ain't even got a car.
The Newfies have a saying: "If ya buy junk bye, ya always has junk"!
"Stay where yur to, I'll come where ya at".
bullish for locking gas caps, bitchez!
Fat lazy impatient iTurds aren't going to work a siphon pump, when they can leverage gravity with a screwdriver.
Long high-capacity rolling drip pans (too bad Blitz went belly up last year, perhaps if more Americans were willing to pay more and buy American instead of opting for cheap Walmart Chicom Crap)
http://www.blitzusa.com/products/oil/Oil%20Drains%20and%20Pans/podpcc58o...
Or for the elite- self sealing puncture resisant fuel tanks
.
...which was a direct result of the country first hearing of a West Virginia credit card (also known as a five gallon can and a siphon hose).
I guess Jamie (girls name) Dimon has one hell of big gas can and siphon hose!
...which was a direct result of the country first hearing of a West Virginia credit card (also known as a five gallon can and a siphon hose).
Priceless!
That makes no sense--you needed to buy gas every day?
The assholes that run this shithole want 5 buck gas. I've been saying it.
Dislocation against the crude, bitchezz.
Glad I'm not in cali.
Cailfornia Dreamin'
<Of cheaper gasoline.>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk
but the freakin tv is telling me prices are dropping.....
Me too. The propaganda machine in my living room still says we need to be vigilant in the fight against deflation.
What's this conspiracy theory about rising gas prices??
That's just stimulation for dick trickle down job creation from the oil companies.
Dick Trickle.
Best. Name. Ever.
Paging 'Mike Hunt'. "Mike Hunt' to the front desk please.
Then WHY are we still exporting 28% of ALL the gasoline we refine???
Somebody is making a profit on it.
But the real, actual answer is: misallocation of resources.
If Obama banned gasoline exports, he might be hailed as a hero.
Wait till there's no choice in the matter. Then it will be fun times in the USA.
CA.... Couldn't happen to a dumber state!
Calif voters are morons.
Well, Feinstein, Pelosi and Waxman keep getting reelected...not to mention Swarzi elected twice... so I would say yes.
Why not just release oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve -- it's in LA!
Oops ... Louisiana, Los Angeles ... what's the difference?
One difference is that exotic lifeforms such as Feinstein, Pelosi and Waxman do not thrive in Louisiana.
The shift in weight may cause the country to tip over
What makes you think those things are alive?
I was always under the impression they were robots. Ones like the Pelosi model being subject to significant decay and requiring constant upkeep of the unit's outer coating and interior wiring.
Again you are the moron for thinking voting has anything to do with it....voting is a joke
Fuck you, jokes are funny.
I'm from Illinois, and I'd like to challenge that statement.
I know a lot of people from Illinois and you don't have a dumb state...you just have one dumb big city that screws up the rest of the state.
The same is true for UpState New York, and the City State New York City
Two, Chicago and equally important is Springfield. They are both tremendously successful at screwing things up while enriching themselves.
Springfield is where Homer is. What did you expect?
Again... I'm paying ~$9 so don't see all the fuss.
@css1971
Cheap gas is an American birthright. It's in the fucking Constitution. Right next to free cell phones (means-tested, of course, old boy). If mogas reached $9/gal. here in the next year, surburbia house prices would plummet another 50% and there would definitely be more bath salts cannibal episodes, just without the bath salts.
Cheap gas is exactly why we borrow "spend" 50% of the world's total outlay on military toyz for the boyz.
Got Milk an F22/35?
5% of the world population, blowing through 50% of the earth's resources. American exceptionalism. AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!
Dr. Richard Head carps:
"5% of the world population, blowing through 50% of the earth's resources. American exceptionalism. AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!!"
Shit-stupid Dr. Head reveals himself as an ignoramus again: we also produce 21% of the word's GOODS ... US is the world's largest manufacturing economy, producing 21 percent of global manufactured products.
AND we do this with only 4.6% of the world's population while consuming only 25% of the world's energy (Where does Dr. Shit-stupid come up with a 50% figure?)
Back to the production department, China is second at 15 percent and Japan is third at 12 percent.
but I'd bet your transportation infrastructure is a little different than in the US. americans cannot suddenly, or even gradually, choose to take public transport.
a 30 min drive would take 2 hours waiting on buses etc for anyone outside of the major cities
IF a bus happend to even HAVE a route in the general vicinity of your destination.
The genuises here don't even run buses in both directions on a route, so the only way to travel is to ride the entire circuit back to your starting point. Some of these routes are over ten miles long, so you'd spend an hour in traffic at least riding it.
Then they sit around and wonder why the buses are always empty.
Is it mostly flat?
In a lot of places, but.... Driving through and into various urban areas is OK if you keep to the main roads, riding a bike through those same areas is liable to be suicidal.
Thanks.
"Driving through and into various urban areas is OK if you keep to the main roads, riding a bike through those same areas is liable to be suicidal. "
I'm hoping $8 a gallon fixes that.
""Driving through and into various urban areas is OK if you keep to the main roads, riding a bike through those same areas is liable to be suicidal. "
I'm hoping $8 a gallon fixes that."
Yep....should go from 'likely' to 'guaranteed' as word gets out the fish are running.
Dude it shot up to $4.65 - 4.75 here in the San Jose area as of yesterday. Fuck the car, I'm biking! Time to fix that front deraileur...
Prices will shoot up for bike parts eventually. We make zero domestically.
Slime filled heavy duty MTB tubes are already up to $13 each at Wally World. From $9 just a few months ago.
Stock up on tires, tubes, CHAINS (critical wear part up in $$$ too), and some extra stainless brake/deraileur cables too.
For those who want to be ready:
Some good urban MTB tires:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=179
I roll these:
Universal Cycles -- Continental Travel Contact Tire - http://bit.ly/SIb9xV
The Continental are light, tough, fast/smooth riding while still having knobs to be able to stop quickly on a gravel shoulder.
They also hold up to sharp rocks offroad. Best all around tire I've tried (out of MANY).
Perfect city/country or trekking tire.
Maxxis also has some ultra tough MTB tires:
Universal Cycles -- Tires > Mountain Tires > Maxxis Tires - http://bit.ly/SIbAsc
For ultra speed and toughness on pavement only:
Universal Cycles -- Panaracer RiBMo Tire - http://bit.ly/SIbQHv
Panaracer rubber compound is really grippy, yet not slow. Fantastic.
These brands can't be found easily in stores or most bike shops.
Deal with the double thick Slime tubes. They are heavy, but paired with these linked tires you won't have flats.
I live in the most flat prone part of the country and stopped getting them.
In the future, you can't afford to be walking your bike along wild American city streets.
Literally, cause you won't be able to afford that much ammo, much less carry it with ya.
Dude...please tell me you don't wear Lycra...;O(
Lycra guys don't roll Continental trekking tires and heavy duty tubes.
I've got a cargo bike that can pack 150+ lbs. Nice big bags for my Gladius to ride in undercover:
Big Dummy | Bikes | Surly Bikes - http://bit.ly/R47c7W
Amazon.com: Cold Steel Gladius Machete: - http://amzn.com/B004MMS0PE
PS - You never have to reload with a Roman sword. It's sustainable and eco friendly.
Maximus! Maximus! Maximus!
Leader of the EBT revolt of 2013.
Turning DC into Rwanda.
Any cash left in CALPERS to "borrow" from in order stave things off for just a bit longer? We still have a month left before the next dictator is chosen.
Just in time for the elections, how are they going to manipulate this?
They don't have to. Short of just outright deliberately nuking LA and SF, CA will vote blue. End of Story.
It's pretty hilarious how you guys think voting has anything to do with it...morons
In this context it has everything to do with voting.
If California were a "swing" state you would have both puppets running around "helping" people out.
Since it ain't, you are SOL.
pods
And you aren't SOL? Ahahahaha
Your aren't going to get me to argue that this system works. Was just saying in this context that shit would get done if Cali were a swing state.
Some votes cost more than others. Swing state votes are the highest priced ones of all.
pods
Analysts via the Washington Post say the spike may last a while:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/analysts-say-spike-in-california-gas-prices-may-last-awhile-supply-issues-cited/2012/10/05/d1d5988e-0ec1-11e2-ba6c-07bd866eb71a_story.html
This is frickin' BAD for Obummer when he wants everybody happy and dancing in the streets.
Out of curiosity, what routes are there to redirect fuel supplies to the West? Are there many pipelines in place? Wouldn't they already be used by whoever runs them?
look at etp today. trying to figure out what the pop is about
Buying Sunoco?