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The Great Scam: America's Richest Politicians Get Richer As Democrat, Republican Wealth Converges

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It will, or should, come as no surprise that as a result of the Great Financial Crisis, just as in real life, so in D.C., the wealthiest politicians have gotten wealthier: in fact at least 72 politicos have doubled their wealth in the past 5 years. It will, or should, also come as no surprise, that as a result of the GFC, the average wealth of Republicans (which declined) and Democrats (which rose) has converged, confirming that at least when it comes to the economic disparity between America's two big parties, there is no longer any difference. At least these are the findings of a recent WaPo study looking at how America's lawmakers have benefited from the laws they themselves institute. In other words, while America's laws may be designed for its people, those who actually benefit from this country's fiscal (and of course monetary) policy is just one group: those who continue to transfer wealth from what little is left of the middle class and into their own, mostly offshore, bank accounts.

From the WaPo: "You would find that, contrary to many popular perceptions, lawmakers don’t get rich by merely being in Congress. Rich people who go to Congress, though, keep getting richer while they’re there." We are fairly confident that there were no "popular perceptions" that anyone goes to Congress to get wealthy. Congress, and certainly the Senate, are merely vehicles to allow those with power and money to simply perpetuate a status quo that benefits the 1% and takes, what little is left, from everyone else. And sadly, this theft transcends political lines and ideological colors. In short: everyone is doing it, even as America continues to delude itself there is an option. There is none.

For the complete matrix of just who steals from you, dear Americans, click below.

Other WaPo findings:

The wealthiest one-third of lawmakers were largely immune from the Great Recession, taking the fewest financial hits and watching their investments quickly recover and rise to new heights. But more than 20 percent of the members of the current Congress — 121 lawmakers — appeared to be worse off in 2010 than they had been six years earlier, and 24 saw their reported wealth slide into negative territory.


Most members weathered the financial crisis better than the average American, who saw median household net worth drop 39 percent from 2007 to 2010. The median estimated wealth of members of the current Congress rose 5 percent during the same period, according to their reported assets and liabilities. The wealthiest one-third of Congress gained 14 percent.


The Post also found that some congressional financial interests intersected with public actions taken by legislators: 73 lawmakers sponsored or co-sponsored legislation that could have benefitted businesses or industries in which either they or their families were involved or invested.

Among the other findings is perhaps this key one: "The estimated wealth of Republicans was 44 percent higher than Democrats in 2004, but that disparity has virtually disappeared." In other words, when it comes to wealth, and thanks to the crisis, which made some Republicans poorer as it made some Democrats richer, America now has only one party: those who do not represent the people, but merely those who will do everything to preserve their own wealth.

And as noted above, the richest just get richer and richer:


  • Between 2004 and 2010, 72 lawmakers appeared to have doubled their estimated wealth.

    At least 150 lawmakers reported receiving more income from outside jobs and investments than from their congressional salaries of $174,000 for rank-and-file members.

  • Representatives in 2010 had a median estimated wealth of $746,000; senators had $2.6 million.

  • Since 2004, lawmakers reported more than 3,500 outside jobs paying their spouses more than $1,000 a year. The lawmakers are not required to report how much the spouses are paid or what they did for the money.
  • Lawmakers’ wealth is held in a variety of ways: 127 primarily in real estate, 117 in institutional funds, 75 in their spouses’ names, 51 in essentially cash, 36 in specific stocks and bonds, 32 in high-turnover trading, 30 in business ownership and 20 in agriculture. More than 40 had reported assets of $25,000 or less.

Those wishing to learn how America's representative government continues to die a slow and painful (for most, if not all) death, can read on here.


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Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:34 | 2864755 CH1
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I am shocked!

SHOCKED, I say!!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:46 | 2865034 Precious
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Expansion of political wealth and racism in America have probably never been worse than today.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:02 | 2865115 DoChenRollingBearing
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If you are NOT the pysychopathic scum you must apparently be to get elected to high office, there are not very many options:

1) "Go Galt" -- just stop working with the system and get out, works best if you already have some money saved or are very competent at doing something that adds value...  And save in gold.

2) Be a wage slave, like most have to be to support their families, and save what you can.  Gold can help here too.  But, the system is now rigged against workers.

3) Descend into criminality -- on the rise as things get worse.  THIS is an ugly part of America's future if we don't fix things soon.  Will we?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:08 | 2865124 malikai
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Ron Paul is up 55% since 04.

He likes miners if I remember correctly.

Also, I refuse to believe that those cats on the bottom with negative wealth are fully disclosing.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:26 | 2865159 markmotive
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It's called 'crony capitalism' in other countries. In Amerika it's called 'democracy'.

What a farce.

David Stockman slams Crony Capitalism and the Corrupt Free Market system:

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:28 | 2865279 LMAOLORI
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I felt Ron Paul was the best hope but people don't really know him.  On one hand he would cut pretty much everything in sight and on the other...


Ron Paul, Social Security opponent, acknowledges he receives benefits


Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitutional

Never voted to spend one penny of Social Security money

snip Q: You said in 1988 that you would abolish Social Security. You’re OK with Social Security now?

A: I think we need to offer the kids the chance to get out. But right now, if we don’t save the money, we can’t take care of the other. I never voted to spend one penny of Social Security money. So I’m the one that has saved it.

Voted YES on reducing tax payments on Social Security benefits.


Mon, 10/08/2012 - 09:36 | 2867385 Calculated_Risk
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He receives because he PAID IN. He's only taking back what was stolen from him.

And he voted to REDUCE the taxes on SS benefits. It money that was aquired via taxation so

it's a double tax, and the vote reduces the amount of money the .gov steals from people. A GOOD THING!

Now go back to huffington post you troll fuck.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:09 | 2865126 Popo
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The most important meme from ZH today:

as America continues to delude itself there is an option. There is none.


THIS!  This should be ZeroHedge's tag-line until the elections are over.  

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:22 | 2865148 prains
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there's an election going on????

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:26 | 2865162 rayduh4life
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The only choice in this country, and they are trying to take that away from you, is Paper or Platic?.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:56 | 2865333 odatruf
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Fuck you, man.  I choose to have fries with that or not.  Me.


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:47 | 2865206 max2205
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I don't think these fuckers passed that front running law.

No shame. No mercy IMO

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:31 | 2865150 Gully Foyle
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I'm not certain they are all psychopaths, just corruptable.

In the early 80's 60 Minutes did a segment on a newly elected council man/assemblyman, something along those lines. From the minute the votes were tallied offers started flooding in, free dinners, foriegn junkets, so on.

It's like the way the mob gets people, they accept a small favor which leads to ever larger and larger favors and debts.

But when has there ever been incorruptable politicians? It's been the same game since the beginning of time.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:44 | 2865198 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 Nor can I be sure they are all psychopaths, Gully Foyle.

Chris Duane (Silver Bullet Silver Shield) and others have done work to show that those who climb to the top are usually quite bad, with symptoms of being psychopaths.

I am not a psychologist, nor do I pretend to be one on the Internet.  

VERY TRUE that politicians have ben corruptible and many HAVE been psychopaths through all of history (Pharoahs (2000 BC and before) and the European kings who believed in the "Divine Right of Kings").  

Your "60 Minutes" story of new politicians and the mobsters..., why does that ring so true?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:01 | 2865343 odatruf
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I'd stay away from using the absolute "all".  But more than enough to get the job done are corruptible. And since the system puts each of them into the position of testing the hypothesis, we get predictable results.

It's a pity, but I suspect that if you picked 535 people at random and put them into the same system, the same results would occur. There may be a brief period during the transition when this might be put off, but it would come soon enough.  That's because it is a feature, not a flaw.


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:21 | 2865568 Tom Terrific
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No, they ARE all sociopaths except for maybe half a dozen.  And those that are should swing from the nearest light pole.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 20:44 | 2866301 Rick64
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 I would say that they are opportunists void of integrity and ethics. Why would a wealthy man or anyone in the private sector that is or would make more money than the meager gov. salary spend millions to be elected?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:04 | 2865119 CH1
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Racism worse than ever?

I don't think so.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:43 | 2865418 DosZap
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Racism worse than ever?

I don't think so.

Disagree, the minute Sotero was elected the polarization was mind boggling.

People of all ethncities voted for him, Caucs as well.

94% of blacks voted for him just because he is 50% black.............and he can do no wrong, because of his color in their eyes.

The Battitudes came to light at every turn.

What should have shown the ethnic minority community racism had already turned the corner by virtue of the mix of the voters, was brought back tenfold worse, after he was elected.

The manifold hatred is astounding.Some sad stuff............really sad.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 20:35 | 2866289 Rick64
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 Our very first congress was guilty of insider trading. Politicians have always been crooks for the most part.

It was 1789, and state-backed revolutionary war bonds had become virtually worthless. Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton moved in to shore up the investments. Before word spread, members of Congress secretly scooped up thousands of the bonds from unsuspecting farmers and war veterans, paying pennies on the dollar.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:27 | 2865158 Gully Foyle
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Rumor: Major Donor Scandal About To Rock White House

resident Obama's reelection campaign, rattled by his Wednesday night debate performance, could be in for even worse news. According to knowledgeable sources, a national magazine and a national web site are preparing a blockbuster donor scandal story.

Sources told Secrets that the Obama campaign has been trying to block the story. But a key source said it plans to publish the story Friday or, more likely, Monday.

According to the sources, a taxpayer watchdog group conducted a nine-month investigation into presidential and congressional fundraising and has uncovered thousands of cases of credit card solicitations and donations to Obama and Capitol Hill, allegedly from unsecure accounts, and many from overseas. That might be a violation of federal election laws.

Drudge picked it up that night and teased it as a top-of-the-column story, but it had disappeared by Friday.

Next, the Obama campaign shocked everyone by announcing they had raised an unbelievable $181 million in September. Rather curiously, only 2% of the total amount raised was reportable.

The campaign said that just over 1.8 million people made donations to the campaign last month. According to the campaign, over 500k of these were brand-new donors, having neither given in 2008 nor 2012. 98% of contributions were under the reporting threshold of $250. Of these, the average contribution was $53.

This "national magazine and web site" is believed to be Newsweek/Daily Beast. This might seem impossible, but they did publish this thorough take-down of Obama in August and Eli Lake has been a one man wrecking crew in his Libya investigation.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:35 | 2865179 rayduh4life
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What could be a bigger "scandal" than Sheldon (chines mafia Adelson?   Do a quick search of Federal Election Act 1972 and see how many pieces of legislation have been inacted to curb the bullshit.  Courts threw out Feca in 1979 under the premise of allowing the two parties to spend "soft" money to increase voter turnout.  WTF ever.  News flash sheeple, they're all shills for their overlords. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:41 | 2865193 Gully Foyle
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I think this is more of a planned release helping Obama leave office.

For the last two years I've read articles mentioning how Obama doesn't like being president, how he is bored, how he is disinterested in office.

Recently I've seen that same rational from his defenders after the debate.

TPTB has Romney as the next POTUS with Obama eventually migrating to the Un.

Clinton should have been there but he was publicly embarassed.

The pretense is the race is "close".

That needs to be maintained as long as possible.

Now this rumor comes along to demoralize even those who rabidly defend Obama.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:38 | 2865301 RiverRoad
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Oh good.  He can help move the UN to Yemen where it could do the world some real good for a change.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:53 | 2865435 DosZap
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For the last two years I've read articles mentioning how Obama doesn't like being president, how he is bored, how he is disinterested in office.


Sure he is, that is why he's managed to do more damage in 4yrs, than anyone before him, it isn;t because he was bored, or doesn;t like the bully pulpit I assure you.It is obvious he is disinterested in Office,his focus has been laser beamed at the NWO.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 17:08 | 2865897 GAAPpreNixon
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It was never about Obama; it was and is always about doing what the oil oligarchy wants OR ELSE. It is infantile to think a US president makes decisions in this country. What you have read are mere propaganda pieces planted near your eyes to give you the illusion of access to info about what goes on in the White House and a choice about who occupies that office. Rod Serling: Logic is the enemy and truth is a menace.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:21 | 2868917 redd_green
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Yeah. what GAAP said.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:48 | 2865427 DosZap
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Rumor: Major Donor Scandal About To Rock White House


Obama took in 180 million, of which ONLY 2% was reportable.

This reeks of Foreign involvement.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:00 | 2866140 RockyRacoon
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Yeah, but.... as long as they are corporations they are people!  That makes it okay, or not.  I get confused.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:40 | 2865188 jonjon831983
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Shocked... ok. Sure.


But what are YOU going to do about it.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:02 | 2865347 odatruf
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I'm voting for Kodos!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 15:38 | 2865402 CH1
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But what are YOU going to do about it.

I hope you understand that the comment was sarcasm.

What to do: Get out of the rigged system and start living like a free  man. (Going Agorist, or going Galt.)

If you need people to say nice things about you, you are doomed to serfdom. The price of exiting slavery is people calling you names.

Either you want freedom badly enough, or you don't.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:36 | 2865786 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ jonjon  "What are YOU going to do about it"

Call GhostBusters?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:58 | 2865864 GAAPpreNixon
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"In short: everyone is doing it, even as America continues to delude itself there is an option. There is none."

What else can you expect ffrom employees who either agree to rape the USA for corporate profits or get run out of office (or bopped in office if they are too popular)?

Rod Serling: Logic is the enemy and truth is a menace.


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:35 | 2864762 Seasmoke
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before even the banksters, these are the heads that should be on pikes first !!!!!!!!.......i have dibs on chuck schumer

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:36 | 2864764 nmewn
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I've got an idea, lets pass a law that________

But let me call my broker first ;-)

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:37 | 2865185 rayduh4life
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No need for the call, got the heads up for the law in the first place from my "blind trust". 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:36 | 2864765 oddball
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F U C K  T H E M  A L L, in the ass preferably, or mouth.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:08 | 2865125 dick cheneys ghost
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They wanted to call it Fuck You, DC but as we all know, fuck you was already taken.........

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:30 | 2865171 oddball
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Fuck you D.C., would have given up the game too soon.  Even the real diehard bootlickers would have figured out the corilation from the burning in their ass.  

Long live the corporation. "god save D.C., a fascist regime." </s>

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:23 | 2865152 Cloud9.5
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Forget that.  Think about a walk in the park with Nancy P.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:31 | 2865172 malikai
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As romantic as a date in a wax museum.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:57 | 2865191 oddball
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Fly her and the rest to T.J.     

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:39 | 2865300 DosZap
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 It will, or should, also come as no surprise, that as a result of the GFC, the average wealth of Republicans (which declined) and Democrats (which rose) has converged, confirming that at least when it comes to the economic disparity between America's two big parties, there is no longer any difference.


NEVER was any disparity, the Demoncrats have screamed this for so long, everyone believed it, no one ever bothered to LOOK at the people in their camps, and their net worths,plus that of their spouses.

Just another example of the Lil Boy who cried wolf..............political sheeple trick.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:38 | 2864813 Rainman
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Fuck these small-time critters, I wanna see Bernank's stash !

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:03 | 2865118 Bawneee Fwank
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Bwing it big boy wainman!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:48 | 2865208 rayduh4life
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Probably pales in comparison to for treasury sec Paulson.  Funny how we don't hear much from that slimebag.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 20:10 | 2866246 Rick64
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Not bad 200M + his sec. of treasury salary + gov. pension in just 2.5 yrs. What a patriot!

 Paulson earned far more than his $200,000 or so in salary during his tenure as Secretary of the Treasury. We don't know Paulson's motivation for serving as Secretary of the Treasury but we wonder whether a $200 million deferral and a tax free diversification of his portfolio rather than noblesse oblige explain the decsion.


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:05 | 2865244 GMadScientist
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$3T and climbin'...definitely in both the "real-estate investor" and "heavy trader" categories.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:43 | 2864887 vinayjha
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and this will continue as long as fed is in business

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:44 | 2864936 bugs_
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no difference between RINOs and.....DINOs?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:49 | 2865210 rayduh4life
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All paid by the same creepos

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:44 | 2864942 knukles
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Did I hear somebody say "Inside Information", "Campaign Contributions", "Graft", "Bribery" or "Extortion"?

(sounds of crickets chirping)

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:06 | 2865121 prains
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or write a book and have the publishing company siphon phony sales money to you, voila instant millionaire

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:49 | 2865001 Whoa Dammit
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"Of course there's a difference between the two political parties. The Republicans bend over backwards for corporations and special interests. The Democrats are exactly the opposite. They bend over forward."---Swami Beyondananda (aka humorist Steve Bhaerman)

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:47 | 2865066 RiverRoad
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Run for Congress; pimp the country.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:02 | 2865236 Urban Redneck
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They ain't even decent pimps, avg net worth is less than 1m???  There a few 9 figure players who know obviously how to work it, but they're balanced out by an army of true incompetents.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:48 | 2865083 Spudz
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WTF is wrong with my life???


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:16 | 2865138 LawsofPhysics
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Lobbying needs to be punishable by death before expanding anything.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:54 | 2865095 LawsofPhysics
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Enough with the left/right horseshit.  The politicians are only puppets for the owners.  Stupid fucking sheep.


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 12:58 | 2865103 holdbuysell
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"It's a big club and you ain't in it."
- George Carlin

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:04 | 2865104 holdbuysell
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Dupe deleted.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:00 | 2865107 IMA5U
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Team Blue really doesn't give a damn about the Little Guy


Fans of Team Blue are morons


Team Red doesn't hide they are a bunch of pricks

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:00 | 2865108 freewolf7
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When is Enough?

"Well, I'll just watch some football. Have a beer. At least I have today off. I don't have it so bad. It could be worse I guess. I'm getting sleepy..."

What will it take?

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:29 | 2865167 CH1
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What will it take?

History says it will probably take hunger.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:02 | 2865113 I am Jobe
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They care, go Vote, they care.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:09 | 2865127 TapperIsTicked
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Is there a source that shows wealth from the day the crooks assume office to the latest filing? I'm not looking for range but factual numbers.

I know, Gubermnt crooks, factual numbers: Sit and ponder that irrational concept.

If there is a source, I'd like to know where it is.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:19 | 2865141 Atomizer
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The fallacy of wealth is only determined by the amount of debt a public servant creates during his/her tenure.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:20 | 2865143 AGuy
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<- Politicians actually believe the crap the spew

<- Politician spew to use their authority to enrich themselves



FWIW: I think some believe it, most know better but use rhetoric to stay in power or manipulate the public for their own personal benefit.



Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:20 | 2865145 q99x2
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Everybody will voted out of office on election day by me. And next year may they have an option to let the seats be vacant. I'd certainly vote for that this time if I could.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:20 | 2865146 babylon15
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Go to the source article and sort by industry.  Then click "real estate".  Now you will see why Ben Bernanke is buying mortgage backed securities in unlimited quantities.  This is where the majority of congress currently has their wealth stashed.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:36 | 2865296 LMAOLORI
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+1 Thanks babylon responses like yours are the reason I bother to read through comments!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:25 | 2865156 blindman
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This is not a recession it’s a robbery with Max Keiser
Posted on October 7, 2012 by maxkeiser
Spain Police Beating Everyone: A Warning To America
Posted on October 7, 2012 by maxkeiser

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:26 | 2865164 apberusdisvet
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Term limits with the additional proviso that all increased weath accumulated during the term is paid to the US Treasury (as long as Geithner has already been tried and convicted).

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:35 | 2865178 Ricky Bobby
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Rome = Modern America. Look at the growth of the Praetorian class needed to keep the pleebs in check, while the corrupt elite jockey for untold wealth.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 13:59 | 2865231 GMadScientist
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Hmmm...charts, kinda like Rorschach tests, in a way:

- Wouldn't those who made the most during the bubble and who got hurt the most by 2008 be the ones most likely to have been part of the problem? (hint: think red)

- That last chart of  "outside income"...why isn't that just labeled "Bribes"?


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:16 | 2865263 shovelhead
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Proximity to the Crown has always been a lucrative, if tenuous, position.

As real estate profits from location, Govt. profits from influence.

Always and everywhere.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:44 | 2865316 RiverRoad
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And the Squid with his tentacles in every office and corridor lives on.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 14:40 | 2865307 squexx
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Don't eat the rich, make them eat each other!!!!!

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 16:19 | 2865536 forrestdweller
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i always thougt russia was very corrupt, but probably the US of A is made up of corruption.

i hope they die and go to hell.


Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:23 | 2866175 MedicalQuack
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This post was in error as my post went up twice, sorry.  Read the next one as I don't think I can delete this. 

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:21 | 2866176 MedicalQuack
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Good post and goes to prove that the algorithms move the money, whether it is in the market, with real estate, you name it.  Those who control the code or can afford to hire those who wirte the money moving code, control the world.  I still say we are all under the Attack of the Killer Algorithm every way we turn and it is also killing our ethics in the US as formulas and algorithms running on servers 24/7 make life impacting decisions about all of us.  Here's the link to the links and a great video on quants where they talk about their fantasy and fictious math used for business models..a good eye opener.

I just added Killer Chapter 45 and if you dont' think corporate profits are sailing due to selling data, well think again.  When minin public data we have errors now and I cite my own case on someone being added to my car insurance policy as a 2nd driver.  I sold my house a few months ago and received my car insurance statement a few days ago and to my surprise the new owner of my house I sold about 4 months ago was listed as a second driver, rogue and attack algorithm did that with public records. 

I called my agent and they all had my new address, etc. as I changed that so this is data mining and queries on steroids.  Read about the MIB and how they project how long you are going to live and money they make. Seriously they are gathering and querying so much data for predictive analytics that credible and non credible data put together and queried is creating some "increibly flawed data" and some rogue algorithms.  I knew what happened being a data person but my agent had no clue, but again I write about this all the time with what is happening.  Be very aware on what is being mined and used and sold about you.

If you want to know what I think of our digital illiterate this is so bad with wanting to suspend the stimulus incentives for doctors and hospitals to use electronic medical records...they are really just dumb and would cut of their nose to spite their face and not even miss their nose.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 21:09 | 2866344 Clinteastwood
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You truly are a medical quack if you believe the electronic medical record will lead to algos that improve health care.  The reason medical care is so expensive and inefficient (and in many cases mediocre) is because there are so many politicos out there who think they know something about medicine.........when in fact they don't know squat.  


That doesn't stop them from trying to tell those of us who do know medicine what to do-----like, "What you need is an electronic medical record, and an algorithm!"


Sorry, but NO WE DON'T.  The electronic medical record is just one more useless layer between the patient and the doctor.  Is that what you bean counters want when you're in the ER with chest pain???



Sun, 10/07/2012 - 19:47 | 2866214 Dexter for President
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It surprises me that they did not make more from the market bottom 3/2009 since I suspect that many are in teh loop as to the manipulation - though the reported values end at 2010. Perhaps there is a smaller group that 'made a killing' based on insider info from the bernank - does anyone know if this list exists (or at least a list of those that made teh killing)? Consider that if you knew what would happen in early 2009 smart investing in commodities and financials would have yielded 300 to 1000% interest.

Just curious.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 20:46 | 2866308 orangegeek
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When the next wave down hits and ultimately completes itself, no one will be spared.


Including these politicians who have been playing off insider information for decades.  It was only recent that a book was written about this insider info scam and the law was changed.


Just another example of why government is the problem.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 22:19 | 2866489 “Rebellion to t...
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Perhaps I am naiive, but the stomach turning filth that the people of this nation elect to represent us seem unusually self serving and self enriching.  I hope a future representative government has a dossier on the current scumbags and that each and every one of them gets 1)a justifiably stiff prison sentence for betraying the public trust; and 2) A RICO type act where any and all ill gotten gains (including all homes) for themselves and all parasitic relatives goes immediately back to the US Treasury.

If they don't like these choices, perhaps baseball bats to the fucking head/balls from the neighbor's who prefer to administer street justice.

Sun, 10/07/2012 - 23:23 | 2866689 AgShaman
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Abolish all Judicial, Legislative, and Executive Branch pensions....and backdated of course.

This will purge/prevent alot of psychopaths from seeking the free gubmint lunch/gravy train

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 01:08 | 2866846 resurger
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i logged here to SAY FUCK THEM ALL

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 06:07 | 2867050 Grand Supercycle
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WILE E.COYOTE overdue sell off...

Has taken longer than expected but SPX & GOLD etc daily chart
bearish topping process strengthens further.

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