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QEternity Explained: The Definitive Infographic

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Confused what the opportunity cost, as well as outright cost, of QEternity is? The following infographic from Demonocracy should put everything into perspective.

 

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Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:06 | 2868649 slaughterer
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Lego-esque illustration.   I like it.  

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:10 | 2868664 no taste
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It is one massive Potemkin village.

http://howstupidare.blogspot.com/

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:25 | 2868719 nope-1004
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When I was a kid, $1Trillion was a lot of money.

Today?  Meh.....

Give me a gun and I'll rob a bank.  Give me a bank and I'll rob the world.

 

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:35 | 2868759 markmotive
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One more heroin hit and we're done, right?

Dmitry Orlov on the developing systemic breakdown threatening to destroy the global credit system:

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2012/10/08/developing-breakdown-dmitry-orlov/

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:47 | 2868800 Raymond Reason
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Buttering the banker's bread with federal preserves. 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:18 | 2868912 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is say please, butter my petard!

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:21 | 2868918 redpill
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Anyone got a match?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:35 | 2868943 francis_sawyer
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jew confetti bitchez... (antiseptic 'on arrival junker crew', please, for ONCE... Offer a thesis on how & why this is NOT TRUE along with your red arrow onslaught)...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:38 | 2868963 The Shootist
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I junked you because your an idiot.

id·i·ot -a person affected with extreme mental retardation

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:32 | 2868969 francis_sawyer
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So let's see... It took you all of 3 minutes to arrive at that clinical observation... Document that in the annals people... It takes a perfunctory read, requiring 3 minutes time (assuming a comment was read with HFT efficiency) to make a complete & thorough diagnosis of retardation... Modern medical science is, indeed, a miracle...

Still no pro-offered clues as to why my 'thesis' was incorrect however... Conspicuoulsly dearth in that area...

Allow me to hone the argument...

- QE is what?

- It is 'monetization' of debt obligations

- In this instance... We're talking about US DOLLARS...

- Who invented, incubated, & shepherded the system?... (Note: It sure wasn't me, or my grandmother)...

- To understand a loose timeline... Study 'Continental Scripts', the 'First Bank of the United States', the war of 1812 (why & when it was fought), the 'Second Bank of the United States' (its timeline), Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, 'Greenbacks', The Act of 1871, The crash of 1907, Jeckyl Island, the Warburgs, Schiffs, Rothschilds, et. al, Woodrow Wilson (& his Princeton scandal), Brandeis... & of course, the Federal Reserve Act...

Get back to me on all that... (oh yeah... & not to mention that "you're" would have been the correct usage in your reply)...

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:01 | 2869233 Thomas
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I've seen this graphic too many times. Somebody show me the mountain of bullshit that comes out of Fed governors mouths. Now THAT would be an awsome spectacle.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 13:09 | 2871587 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris one time is 3-D animator and is know experience. Lego is more easy for rendering sequence than organic material. Maybe if Fed Gov is to have brick like bowel movement, is can render in 3-D

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:03 | 2869236 Thomas
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Francis: I think it was the "jew confetti" comment. Doesn't bring much to the discussion.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:20 | 2869243 francis_sawyer
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So the fuck what???... Can you offer a more precise metaphor for the US DOLLAR?... If so ~ I'm all ears...

- Did George Washington 'think it up'?...

- Did Thomas Jefferson 'think it up'?...

- Did Andrew Jackson 'think it up'?...

- Did Abraham Lincoln 'think it up'?...

~~~

Who the hell 'THUNK IT UP' anyway?... (& why now ~ many years afterwards ~ lamenting on a blog and commenting upon info graphics that defy logic)...?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:21 | 2869271 MillionDollarBogus_
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I Red Arrowed you because everyone does that to me...

Like the Fed, just trying to spread the wealth...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:33 | 2869298 francis_sawyer
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Fuck me in the @ss... But all I see is a thread that has illustrations of all the PAPER MONEY that has been printed in the name of allowing CERTAIN TYPES to go on (for a century & running), printing NOTES, which, in reality, represent the THEFT of individual sweat (& blood ~ as represented by WARTIME affairs)... to benefit the coffers of Zionists...

These illustrations are an accounting of that mountain...

Somewhere... SOMEBODY (or, a GROUP of people), started all that... While its manifestation may be on a larger scale than even their wildest dreams (& therefore, the 'conspiracy' may be beyond their pre-planning)... NEVERTHELESS ~ their 'heirs' have perpetuated the PONZI for their personal benefit (at the expense of others & of humanity in general)...

Based on all the 'junks' here... I guess I'm the only one who objects to this...

Carry on...

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 20:09 | 2869490 fasTTcar
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I love how some people here prefer 8th grade explanations and scapegoats to truth.

Yeah, the big bad jews made your life miserable.

Hate to tell it to you, but the guys who are fucking you in the ass come from all backgrounds.

Power (and printing) are its own religion. 

And whatever imaginary friend that you follow is just as fucked up any one elses.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 02:52 | 2869950 Ar-Pharazôn
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everyone down arrow you because you're a troll.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:19 | 2869038 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Shootist, I think it is supposed to be:  "you're" an idiot.

 

Tuco

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:29 | 2869059 francis_sawyer
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Only about half ZH'ers know how to spell or use words correctly... (Most, instead, spent their early years learning red arrow mouse clicking at Hava Nagila University)...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:59 | 2869114 MsCreant
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I will always protect your right to free speech. Hate who you please babe. The Jew bullshit just looks like a distraction to me. Let's go with it-- "Da Joos did it." Now that we "know" this, what is the correct course of action?

To me, it does not lead anywhere.

BTW, no junks in your trunk from me, and yeah, we have kind of done this here before dear.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:13 | 2869161 francis_sawyer
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I'm always happy to read your comments ('legacy' that you are)...

~~~

FWIW ~ It's not 'bullshit' to me (so, while I apologize for the apparent distraction ~ I'll not back down from my right to free speech [while it lasts, anyway ~ & even after that, I'm more likely to end up as the Klaus Kinsky character in 'Dr. Zhivago' ~ you know ~ the dude who got sent to the GULAG because of his dissent of the Bolsheviks])...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g6LrHoGzRc

The "correct course of action" (now that you kindly asked ~ & which is a step further that most have to offer), is really nothing in particular... I'd say it's simply to ALLOW the 'thought process' to ferment a little... IOW ~ to actually ASK ourselves if we've allowed ourselves to be STERELIZED by propaganda all these years... Most don't take the time to do that... Instead ~ they're quick on the trigger with red arrow mouse clicks as soon as something that upsets the delicate pH balance of their emotions because someone [representing the 'interests' of the VERY FEW HANDS who guide opinion] on TV, or the internet suggested they behave that way or they wouldn't be popular...

& yeah... we have done this before... Sadly ~ we will probably do it again... It appears to have a 'timeless' characteristic (from my 'not so' perfunctory observations)...

IOW ~ you're probably correct in the end... "it does not lead anywhere", so, to that end, forgive me for my indulgence because, like Klaus Kinsky ^, It's the only way I can still be FREE (even with chains upon my feet & hands)...

~~~

EDIT: Al di là to your "now that we "know" this comment...

Who is to say that "we KNOW this"?... Who knows?... You?... Me... Unfortunately I found myself in a predicament today where I could not extract myself from having to listen to a Mitt Romney address (on C-SPAN), where he spent 30 minutes preaching on the dangers of Al-Quaeda, Our Israeli allies, the BAD Iranian boogeymen (according to the PRE-CRIME unit ~ which was the same PRE-CRIME unit in 2002...

There was a bunch of applause from that audience... So I'm guessing that they didn't get the memo yet ~ thus my continued efforts... Forgive me for the annoyance...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:22 | 2869276 MillionDollarBogus_
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Another post, another Red Arrow...

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:53 | 2869103 Ms. Erable
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Eye djuncked ewe four knot beeing kaypabul ov yousing teh Anglisch layngooaje tew eckspress yowerself en an inntellijint fashun.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:04 | 2869127 The Shootist
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I forgot that ZH was such a shining gem of literate perfection on the internet. No ad hominums here.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:22 | 2869160 Ms. Erable
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No, argumenta ad hominem are fairly common 'round here. Take, for example, calling someone an idiot for expressing their opinion in a cogent manner without resorting to those pesky, tiresome ideas of debating and disproving an opponent's argument.

Whch is fine. Fight Club rules, bitchez.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:00 | 2869176 francis_sawyer
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Now THAT was funny [shootist]... I would have half expected you to spell it 'AD HOMONYM' [based upon the specific characteristics of the sample in question]... Thanks 4 the laugh...

Peeps ~ that's funny as shit... You spell 'Ad hominem' wrong... In an attempt to explain away previously having incorrectly used of "your" vs. "you're", which, (although not TECHNICALLY), is kinda like a HOMONYM...

Am I just entertaining myself here? :-)

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:11 | 2869250 Ms. Erable
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...but you let hime slide on 'literate' perfection? Or were you just admiring his loquacious literary legerdemain?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:28 | 2869421 lnardozi
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+902,621 for "loquacious literary legerdemain"

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 03:56 | 2869971 old naughty
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I got the "loquacious literary legerdemain".

But I didn't get the 902,621.

Let's round it up to +1 m[illion], or b, or tr, shall we?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:30 | 2869177 francis_sawyer
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This is all why ZH is a GEM...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:23 | 2869281 MillionDollarBogus_
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Are you entertaining yourself here...??

Nope...

What is your right hand doing...???

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:54 | 2869312 francis_sawyer
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I'm not entertained by anything except for TRUTH...

Based on the junks here... I'm thinking that there is a sincere lack in the search for truth... (otherwise ~ everybody else would be actively using their right hands to EXPLAIN to me how I have it caustically wrong instead of taking the slippery way out)...

~~~

3 hours after the initial post & only MsCreant has come up with even a partial reply...

Mark my words... It's not even going to stop here... THE APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL (pussies that they are) are going to end up backing off the Iran threat... Why?... Because they are 'pussies', that's why (they just START wars, they expect others to fight them & fund them)...

So the entire attention will then be directed towards the next two 'theatres'...

- African continent (specifically North Africa ~ where, as of last year, 'Plan B' [aka ~ the 'WE WIMP OUT because we're actually pussies] plan takes hold.

- South America (aka ~ make CHAVEZ the next HUSSEIN or GHADAFFI so that we have an excuse to go steal THEIR shit) plan...

~~~

Don't worry aout my brief words here... Soon ~ you'll have some jew news media organization galvanized 100% to make you understand how dangerous these people are...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:08 | 2869372 DeficitAlchemist
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If you read the book, on the Oligarch Carve up in Russia during the Yeltsin era, apart from the Russian official chairing the meeting all those present were Jews, Abromwich et al..No gentile invites were sent.. amazing paralell only more Zionist than Jekyll Island and more recent. Dont understand how the orchestrated giveaways on such scale seem so ethnically exclusive?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:24 | 2869412 francis_sawyer
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Don't bother asking yourself these questions... It'll only drive you MAD (which will end up leading you to post comments on internet blogs which will be RED ARROWED by relatives of this poor fellow)...

~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rooPPLtK9pg

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:41 | 2869314 NidStyles
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Idiot actually means ignorant, but in a not nice way. 

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 13:13 | 2871604 Boris Alatovkrap
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"Jew Confetti" is not for defamation, is literary of massive inflation from Weimar Republic, print Deutsche Mark notes worthless is of confetti and toilet tissue. In Russia is lines for toilet tissue, but is not the very point.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:57 | 2868839 Darth Mul
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Banks and oligarchs bought up all sorts of assets {i.e. real assets - not IOUs} for pennies on the dollar when East Germany was folded into West Germany, when Russia privatized, and now there's a fire sale going on in Greece.

 

This is neither complicated nor surprising - the whole enterprise treats "the economy" as equivalent to "the banks" and is no more or less than an effort to allow them to borrow, fractionally lend, rehypothecate, speculate, and foreclose.

At the end of the day - the flood of cash makes workers relatively poorer while allowing banks to buy cheaper and cheaper properties.

 

Krugman, if you will, is evil, not stupid.

 

I'm no historian - I'm not even an economist.  But I have this gnawing feeling that all this has happened before, that the future's been rehearsed, and that the future involves a World War, the failure of thousands of small banks, and further consolidation of central bank/international banking power.

 

It's just too bad there are no angry mobs available to pay a visit to the NY Fed or CFR or the various "neocon" "think tanks" stuffed with chickenhawk, halfwit Israel Firster treasonous cunts.

 

 

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:43 | 2868971 bigkahuna
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The fed needs to be completely ended by any means available. This is way late in happening.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:45 | 2868975 Andy Lewis
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Hoo u callin' cunt, cunt?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:19 | 2869036 centerline
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There will be angry mobs eventually.  That is what the fortifications, 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, stockpiled food, miltary equipment, and justification via congress and executive order are for.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 23:13 | 2869814 hbjork1
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When I was a kid, a Trillion hadn't been invented yet.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:24 | 2868928 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is relative in Potyomkin Village. Soviet is hard to population in Potyomkin Village because is must find children wearing nice teeth for camera. When camera is running, is smile and can happy to eat bread rolls. When is camera not running, is put down bread and return field in slave.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:33 | 2868948 francis_sawyer
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Boris ~ Don't be the 'Potemkin Village Idiot'...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:43 | 2869088 ShakaZulu
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Boris! You're back!  You run out of vodka?

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 13:05 | 2871573 Boris Alatovkrap
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No, Boris completing is two step program for solving vodka problematic. Boris away is Odessa for vacation therapy. Doctor is say enlargement liver spanning Boris life shortness.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:19 | 2869267 GAAPpreNixon
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Chalres Hugh Smith describes the USA:

[In a nation in which rule of law existed in more than name, here's what should have happened:

 

 

 

1. The scam known as MERS, the mortgage industry's placeholder of fictitious mortgage notes, would be summarily shut down.

2. All mortgages in all instruments and portfolios, and all derivatives based on mortgages, would be instantly marked-to-market.

3. All losses would be declared immediately, and any institution that was deemed insolvent would be shuttered and its assets auctioned off in an orderly fashion.

4. Regardless of the cost to owners of mortgages, every deed, lien and note would be painstakingly delineated or reconstructed on every mortgage in the U.S., and the deed and note properly filed in each county as per U.S. law.

 

That none of this has happened is proof-positive that the rule of law no longer exists in America. The term is phony, a travesty of a mockery of a sham, nothing but pure propaganda.

Anyone claiming otherwise: get the above done. If you can't or won't, then the rule of law is merely a useful illusion of a rapacious, corrupt, extractive, predatory neofeudal Status Quo.

The essence of money-laundering is that fraudulent or illegally derived assets and income are recycled into legitimate enterprises. That is the entire Federal Reserve project in a nutshell.

Dodgy mortgages, phantom claims and phantom assets, are recycled via Fed purchase and "retired" to its opaque balance sheet. In exchange, the Fed gives cash to the owners of the phantom assets, cash which is fundamentally a claim on the future earnings and productivity of American citizens.

Some might argue that the global drug mafia are the largest money-launderers in the world, and this might be correct. But $1.1 trillion is seriously monumental laundering, and now the Fed will be laundering another $480 billion a year in perpetuity, until it has laundered the entire portfolio of phantom mortgages and claims.

 

The rule of law is dead in the U.S. It "cost too much" to the financial sector that rules the State, the Central Bank and thus the nation.

Once the Fed has laundered all the phantom assets into cash assets and driven wages down another notch, then the process of transforming a nation of owners into a nation of serfs can be completed.

Here's the Fed's policy in plain English:

Debt-serfdom is good because it enriches the banks. All hail debt-serfdom, our goal and our god! ]

 

 

http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html  

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:12 | 2868672 Alpo for Granny
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I want the infographic for the amount of precious metals that have been lost in boating accidents since the intitiation of QE^n.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:45 | 2868793 ParkAveFlasher
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It's a forest of green up arrows.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:39 | 2869080 krispkritter
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This work? http://i48.tinypic.com/jzbsqg.png

 

(Don't tell CD I borrowed his image...)

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:14 | 2869388 Captain Planet
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Park Ave above 44th St=Bankster Alley

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:21 | 2869407 Tapeworm
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Is there a link to print the original graphic string that is the subject of this entry?

 I want to post it at work for my muppets but it is not formatted well at all for printing to tape up on the wall.

TIA

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 06:54 | 2870091 Agent
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Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:06 | 2868650 CrimsonAvenger
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I'm thinking that the play here is wheelbarrows.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:10 | 2868665 gtb
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This time it's different...flat bed trailers.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:13 | 2868680 Dr. Richard Head
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It seems as if it is different in Spain right now, as opposed to last week - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6aKZxaEUC0&list=FLK7Q9Kl6xWpDtLIineKSgnw&index=1&feature=plpp_video

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:16 | 2868695 Middle_Finger_Market
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Wonderful. Fuck the system. 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:16 | 2868698 knukles
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This time it's different.
Billions of electronic pulses.
Per nanosecond

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:48 | 2868720 LouisDega
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Flat bed trailors and pallets  made by Acme pallet company located in my beloved US of A

pic2lg.jpg

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:47 | 2869091 Kayman
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Forklifts made in Japan. Lightbulbs made in China.  And an open-span building that no pallet manufacturer could afford.

Must be a vacated building left from the exodus of American industry to China.

I wonder if they pay Union rate plus benefits ?

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:06 | 2868652 Hedgetard55
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Ben - RIH.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:08 | 2868659 Leopold B. Scotch
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kinda weak

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:19 | 2868710 hannah
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i agree. pallets of money do register. the problem is that we cant visualize what a billion or trillion is as a human. the number is too big so really the numbers are meaningless...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:48 | 2868962 gaoptimize
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I can visualize $1T = $1M, a million times (out of 310 million of us) just fine, and I'll bet you can too.  It is the ring of 65 floor seats at an NBA game with 20,000 in attendance.  It is the 200 people in the deluxe sky boxes at an NFL game with 60,000 in attendance.  And my upper middle class family would never spend the money for even nose bleed seats.  I'm not a class envy person, but the system has been rigged that there is very little opportunity to compete for any of that $1,02T .  We know who will recieve the lion's share of it, and so do the people printing it.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:23 | 2869162 hannah
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gaoptimize...visualizing 200 people..??? wtf are you smoking.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:08 | 2868661 GOSPLAN HERO
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Madness!

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:11 | 2868666 Cognitive Dissonance
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Nothing like seeing endless stacks of "money" to drive home the point that The Fed is a counterfeiter extraordinaire. Now if only the masses would care to look we might be able to stop the insanity.

<Who are you kidding CD? Few wish to look into the face of their own madness and fewer still are sane enough to see.>

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:14 | 2868686 knukles
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Ya know Knuks, you drink too much.

Fuck you

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:16 | 2868697 Cognitive Dissonance
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Me, myself and I resent the implication that we are insane.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:33 | 2868751 blu
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As individuals, you are each just fine. But any time the three of you get together for cards then something needs to be said.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:07 | 2869133 MsCreant
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I see you got the Wouters out again. I think CD Smetsed his pantz.

I'm having a scream of a time sexually harassing you!

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:32 | 2869286 blu
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Sister, it ain't harrassment so long as I'm enjoying it.

Though if I'm to remain strictly in character I should threaten once in a while to set you entirely on fire for my added amusement.

So many people. And yet so little screaming in terror.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 21:53 | 2869658 MsCreant
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If only there was one pissed off beast to torch all the evil doers...no worries, no red tape. Only in fairy tales.

I loved Harlan Ellison as an author when I was young. He had a story where God is the crazy one and the Devil has taken the rap for it all. The devil is trying to save the world by waking them up, which is then censored as "evil." Great stuff. 

There will be more screaming to come, not to worry.

Set me on fire when you see fit, oh blu titted one! I bow to your singular, quarky, wisdom (from below).

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:33 | 2868753 kaiserhoff
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Most of my money I spend on booze and broads.  The rest is just wasted.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:24 | 2868721 dbTX
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They are too busy watching dancing with the stars

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:17 | 2869032 silverserfer
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its a sign of those in power attempting to keep their power. that is why the money only goes to banks. The money stays in the club.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:48 | 2868667 razorthin
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Gary Johnson 2012

For those of you who care to do something proactive and who know that Romney won't change a fukking thing.  In fact, he'll prove to be the "Bain" of your existence. With Johnson, it would be the end of the Fed - because if elected he would also represent the will of the people.  With Obama, it is over within months by default - quite literally.  With Romney, he'll save a few bucks, effectively kicking the can a few more miles while the Fed continues to assphuck the people.

Also, because I a law-abiding citizen just dying to try some hooch.

Think about it.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:35 | 2868944 razorthin
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I see.  There are plenty here who like to bitch but are not interested in actually fighting for their freedom.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:24 | 2869049 silverserfer
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voting for Gary Johnson isint going to do much. Converting your wealth to PM's, is going to make a bigger diffrence. Starve the beast.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:58 | 2869116 Kayman
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Make as small a footprint as possible. Cover your needs, forget your wants- the shit that clutters up your life. Reduce your taxable income.

Starve government and the banks.

I know it is anathema to some in the ZH community but I even gave up drinking and didn't need to embrace the big, angry guy in the sky. 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:34 | 2869187 Panafrican Funk...
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"Fighting for your freedom" = voting for Gary Johnson, or even working on his campaign?  People tend to junk the ignorant, dude. 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:04 | 2869366 razorthin
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And so it was...

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:45 | 2869322 NidStyles
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You think putting your name into a machine and telling it whom you want your overseer to be is fighting the machine? LMAO!! Grow up, and ditch the idealism.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:07 | 2869337 razorthin
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And that's when I knew we were defeated.  Who's being idealistic?  Every zombie for himself.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:12 | 2868673 realtick
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Demonocracy's infographics are pure genius. Thanks for sharing.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:19 | 2868709 prains
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How much did Rumsfeld misplace again??

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:24 | 2868722 Dr. Richard Head
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$2.3 Trillion, but what's a few bucks amongst friends?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7904516028875682825

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 20:05 | 2869485 prains
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how does a simple question and simple answer get junked 3 times in total, fucking banana heads everywhere, bring it transvaginal mesh twits

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:12 | 2868677 Middle_Finger_Market
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Here is what a bunch of zeros and a 1 look like; 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000...its that easy bitchez. That is the economy...what 2% of money is physical...making moneyn off of physical money. 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:30 | 2868744 Dr. Richard Head
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You seem like prime central bank material son.  Please head to their webpage and submit your credentials.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/careers/default.htm

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:15 | 2868688 A Lunatic
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It's your money; promised to someone else, by someone else and backed solely upon the premise that future generations will also be such cowards as to willfully (exuberantly even) perform whatever drudgery necessary to pay it all back with interest.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:15 | 2868692 PUD
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Pallets of debt....sick shit

For all that fiat they could have closed every single criminal bank and re-capitalized a whole new banking sector

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:31 | 2868737 Dr. Richard Head
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Total consumer debt (mortgage and credit card) at the end of 2010 was $11.4 Trillion - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newyorkfed.org%2Fresearch%2Fnational_economy%2Fhouseholdcredit%2FDistrictReport_Q42010.pdf&ei=bRpzUO2uIMjz0gGwm4CIBg&usg=AFQjCNF4zYXvgRNBp8zbrGnCzNcsmjLhEA&sig2=pwLrsyU37armUwfqHDNahQ

$29 trillion injected thusfar into the bank....I mean economy.  http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/?docid=1462

Yeah, they could have twice (and a half) recapitalized the banks AND cleared EVERYONE'S MORTGAGE AND CREDIT CARD. 

NEED SERFS IN DEBT.  MUST GET SERFS TO TRADE LABOR FOR DEBT AND TAXES!

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:33 | 2868750 Dr. Richard Head
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Nothing is certain in life but DEBT and TAXES.  - Quack Ben S. Bernanke

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:17 | 2868700 HD
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Screw wanting to grow up and be President. I want to grow up and be an unelected central banker. The ladies love them an unaccountable technocrat.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:20 | 2868714 905ozs
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I agree with Mr LP Scotch above.

Meanwhile we sit & watch & bahh bahh whilst Rothschild Inc prepares our slaughter.

:)

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:24 | 2868724 semperfi
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surreal

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:25 | 2868726 BlackholeDivestment
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...the new secular global socialist offer of temptation is the mother of all temptations,  and Dr. Ben and the 911 jets are the abortionist(s). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hn23EbrVKA&playnext=1&list=PLDE6BA3576DCE617F&feature=results_main

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:45 | 2868728 blu
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It is less like a pit. It is more like a balloon. A balloon seems to inflate quickly in the beginning, but then after a while the air you keep pumping in goes into pressure and not into increasing the volume.

Something else is happening at that point. The action isn't in the volume; the action is in the very thin film of rubber that is the balloon itself. All the energy of the entire thing is held in at the very thin (and thining) layer at the furthest edge.

The financial market today represents the very thin layer of rubber. All the action is there. Nothing else matters. And the financial markets are finished.

They cannot inflate this balloon any more. All they can do is increase the internal pressures. The action at the edge is maxed out, nothing more can happen there. All they can do is stress the edge while increasing pressure.

And then, it explodes -- is what you expect me to end up saying.

I'm not entirely certain that it does, tho. Exlode that is. They could keep things at this very highly pressurized, nerve-wracking level for a very long time is my sense. They control a lot of the monetary variables here. They control media and perceptions too. I'm not sure exactly what they do not control, apart from natural disturbances.

But one thing is certain; the economy is not going to expand with more pressure. That part of the game is over. It might explode, or it might confound everyone and simply exist in an altered state. However it will not expand and if you come right down to it failure to expand on command is the end of the world as we have known it for 1,000 years.

Ben certainly knows this. Obama knows this through Ben (because he's not smart enough to figure it out on his own). Most of the top levels of industry know this. All the players are now running around trying to figure out what it means and they have no clue whatsoever. If that doesn't fill you with eldritch fear, then I don't know what will.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:48 | 2868803 BlackholeDivestment
Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:17 | 2869150 MsCreant
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What if a black hole came into existence in the center of the balloon?

I don't mean to be a twit.

I keep thinking that this is going to go down in a way we never anticipated. With computers and all, things are as fast as the speed of electricity. Implosions, water falls, vacuums, or something quarkier all mashed up and knocked together.

I'm looking for damn weird, baby blu, damn weird.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:11 | 2869247 blu
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Actually I didn't want to go there. But since it is a legitimate avenue of exploration, let's ...

What you refer to as something "damned weird" actually has a name. It is called a singularity. There are all kinds of singularity, the term has even been used recently to imply something insanely great happening. Regardless, all singularities have the same core qualification; no information or system structure passes through a singular moment, not going forward and not going backward. They are the black hole at the middle of all massive things. They are the doorway to resolving the great paradox of where did all the entropy go.

Singularites are how worlds end, not in a bang but in a sucking soul-crushing gasp of horror that we are suddenly unmade. I think that the 100 year coincidence of a large number of factors -- factors economic, energetic, cultural and probably even climatic -- have converged to engineer a perfect machine that is now set to devour our entire civilization whole on a global scale.

We will all of us go in, but we will none of us come out. Certainly, not unchanged.

The more TPTB pressurize this thing, the more powerful becomes the singularity at the center of it all. The more the sigularity grows, the harder it is for us to escape its pull. The coincidence of all the things that gear it are now in terrible motion and as I watch the elites muddle through their silly games I see in their actions the fear in my own heart, which is that yes we shall not escape.

Damned weird, as you put it. In which case your instincts are correct.

For all that, I have no recommendations. That also is the signature of a singularity; you cannot know nor can you guess.

It might even be that humans have been through this many times, for many reasons, and the singular moment erased us each time and unwound our works and devoured our dreams and even devoured our dreaming of the dreams. It's interesting to theorize on. Though of course it means you don't sleep very well at night.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:19 | 2869265 tickhound
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(We're) just victims of the in-house drive-by,

They say jump, you say how high

In summary again, blu.

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:37 | 2869300 blu
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So you like to imagine.

It's like someone trying to describe a sunrise using hand-gestures. Fruitless, but entertaining to watch, just so long as they don't get between me and the actual sunrise.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:51 | 2869331 tickhound
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Or someone describing music for the deaf through the written word...

WOW WOW, chika, WOW WOW, chika chika chika, WOW WOW, chika, WOW WOW, chika chika chika, WOW WOW, chika, WOW WOW, chika chika chika, WOW WOW, chika, WOW WOW...

COME WIT IT NOW!

pretty good, eh?  lol

Not bashing you at all.  Some good stuff you've laid down today.  Its just RageATM... providing apples for all those who'll listen since the 90's.

 

 

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 19:01 | 2869353 blu
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Do explore your rage. I have already done so at length, and oft times find it refreshing to revisit that country -- and the nearby lands of combustion and casual predation and other such fascinating places -- on a regular basis. See my collected works:

http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/

the c@

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:25 | 2868730 JustObserving
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How much of that QE money will be used to attack gold and silver?  

BTW, $1020 billion in QE for 2013 is enough to buy all the silver bullion in the world exactly 30 times over.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:49 | 2868810 ParkAveFlasher
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That's about a month's worth (30 times over = 30 days) of dumping on the silver market.  Keep stacking.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:28 | 2868738 Hobbleknee
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The Fed building needs more stink lines.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:35 | 2868757 Dr. Engali
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That is just a shitload of "money". What amazes me is that the world didn't burst out into collective laughter when the Bernank said he was going to print 85 billion per month. It's like everbody just shrugged and said...sure okay

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:50 | 2868812 blu
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Which should alert you to the possibilty that what Ben & Co. are doing is not any worse than some other alternative. Maybe, better than some other alternative.

Because the alternative on deck is going back. And nobody wants that -- nobody in an industrialized country anyway -- and they will risk just about anything to avoid it.

Think about the risk of unwinding 1,000 years of "progress" and some of this starts to make sense.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:03 | 2868858 tickhound
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Better for whom?

LOL... So to summarize.

You're lost but you say you know exactly where you're going... And its too late to turn around since salvation is right over the next hill there...

Look kids, Big Ben!  Parliament!

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:35 | 2869062 blu
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All Ben knows is -- he personally is not going back.

Back before central banking, before fractional reserves, before monetary systems, before interest rate arbitrage.

Back before there was academic tenure. Before there were funded academic Chairs.

He is not going back to become another no-body standing at the same level as every other man to be judge solely on the merits of his worth to society and not on his position. He will not allow his self nor his community of parasitic monetary wasps to go back, not while he has any control over how this ship will sink.

These are very dangerous people. Ben Bernanke and his ilk. They live their entire lives at the center of a fantasy, all they hear are fantastic things about how great and correct they all are, and they cling to fanciful notions of how things really work, how they continue, and how they do not continue.

They have no more grasp of reality than does a child, having for 50 generations been completely removed from it.

These people are destroying all the world. Not that it could have gone forwards much longer anyway, but they seem bent on making any regression to a simpler time as violent and terrifying as they possibly can sure in the knowledge that if their host can be cowed badly enough, then the host will keep giving the creative blood Ben needs to keep his soul-destroying species alive.

It will certainly end in tears. It might end in uncontained global violence. Ben and Obama and the Bush clan and all the other elite fucks fawning at the clawed feet of Moloch could have handled it differently and maybe saved us some pain. But pain is their stock and pain is their trade and pain is all their profit and they will allow the world to go back but only over the greased corpses of every other living creature on the face of the planet.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:45 | 2869090 newworldorder
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Bravo - You need to copywrite this before some else steals it from you. Best rant of the weekend.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:53 | 2869101 honestann
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True, except Bernanke and his fellow predators know exactly what they are doing.  They know perfectly well they are transferring wealth from "everyone" into the pockets of predators, both "predators-DBA-government" and "predators-DBA-banksters".  There is no other purpose than to eventually transfer all property to the predators who  create fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt-laced toilet paper... as well as other fictions like "government".

Bernanke and his co-predators are not clueless, they are doing and achieving precisely what they intend.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:15 | 2869148 blu
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I'm sure you derive a lot of comfort from thinking that they know what they are doing, and are doing it for the same reasons anyone else would; to get rich.

However we have now plenty of evidence that their reasons are actually far more desperate than protecting wealth. Far more desperate than not wanting to watch someone else get rich on a level playing field.

We have abundant evidence that they are trying to prevent the utter and absolute implosion of their and our entire 1,000 year experience in the West.

That is the only explanation I can see. TPTB are in the black grip of fear and desperation drives them now like the relentless, firey lashes of Hell.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:36 | 2869196 honestann
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Well duh.  Of course they want to keep their scam alive.  Not only so they can continue to enrich themselves and enslave everyone else, but also to assure they never get strung up as they should be.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:41 | 2869203 newworldorder
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Many would agree with you. The point I am trying to make in this thread is that for most of us, the US is the last port before the storm. Lots of people in the world have figured this out already and they are voting by bringing assets to our shores. Whether they are corrrect remains to be seen, but for now the port looks welcoming, especially when one is stranded out at sea.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:16 | 2869259 blu
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Five million years of evolution taught us to act even in desperation. It is a tactic, but not a strategy. Better to have not gone where we went when we did, but that also is probably contrary to our nature. We are explorers, afterall.

In the end if we are undone then we can blame nature, for having made us fit without first making us wise.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:42 | 2869204 Panafrican Funk...
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Agreed.  The dark ages are inevitable, but they are, as you mentioned, hell bent on delaying the inevitable, which works about as well as applying Hello Kitty Band Aids to a just-beheaded neck stump, in which the head was sawed off by a dull machete.  

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 21:07 | 2869581 OGuiness
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+ Trillions

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 02:02 | 2869929 Radical Marijuana
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That is a correct view of Ben Bernanke and his ilk. Your comment reminds me of the October 6 article on Zero Hedge about Why Spain Is A Riot

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-06/guest-post-why-spain-riot

Those professional politicians, and Bernanke is in a special sublime class even above them, are enabled to live their entire lives at the center of a fantasy. ... It will certainly end in tears. It might end in uncontained global violence. ... Meanwhile, for comedy relief, this chart is like the Federal Reserve Board in "Legoland."

As financial reality becomes more INSANE, the infographics become more amusing!  That is another example of how the triumph of runaway frauds produce a "reality" that  looks like a cartoon!

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:54 | 2868827 tickhound
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BULLS ON PARADE, doc, bulls on parade! -ratm

Cuz that's alot of debt that needs servicing, to service the debt that needs servicing, to service the debt that needs servicing, to service the debt that needs servicing. 

While Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters

Sons of bankers, sons of lawyers

Turn around and say good morning to the night

For unless they see the sky

But they can't and that is why

They know not if it's dark outside or light

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:41 | 2868781 icanhasbailout
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QEternity: Instead of stealing instance by instance, it is now a continuous process.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:56 | 2868834 _SILENCER
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The infographics these guys do are great, really makes the volume of fraud digestible, even for people still sucking on the rubber pipe in their Matrix gelpods. And all the money goes to the Wall Street Casino barons.  That's like tying our economy to whatever transpires at the Belagio.  Fucking insanity.

 

I'd like to see one done on the volume of rounds DHS has purchased in the last year.  You know, for "training".

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 14:58 | 2868844 q99x2
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Thanks. I was wondering how I might make my speech on the FED more interesting. This will earn me a few extra points.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:03 | 2868860 sink critically
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They are making dollars worth less and less until the wheels fall off zeno's cart from the load. Anyone who thinks the con game can continue indefinitely is deluded.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:06 | 2868871 steve from virginia
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The central banks like other banks offer ledger-entry credit and make secured loans. They do not create circulating money (they cannot). 

 

Circulating money is created by 3d party users ... exchanging money for goods, services or other 'forms' of money. 'Excess reserves' or base money in reserve accounts is not circulating money, it only becomes so when there are extraordinary demands on banks' reserves (as during a bank run or money panic). Then, reserves replace some of the circulating money that is lost to deleveraging.

 

Central banks cannot make unsecured loans. For them to do so is for them to become instantly insolvent (they have no capital). Currently, the private sector institutions are generally insolvent because they have offered unsecured, or leveraged loans far in excess of their own capital. For the central banks to do the same thing, or for central banks to take leveraged assets onto their balance sheets ... is for them to be insolvent like the rest of the other commercial banks and for the same reason!

 

When the central bank is insolvent there is no effective lender of last resort, the outcome is bank runs (the private sector banking system is a Ponzi scheme and the first ones out survive).

 

This central bank leverage ==> central bank insolvency ==> no lender of last resort ==> bank runs dynamic is underway in the EU right this minute. The central banks cannot create inflation by offering unsecured loans, they can only become insolvent instead. Because there cannot be runs against the central banks directly (no depositors per se), there are runs against the system, ultimately all banks fail and there is a run out of the currency. This is also underway both in Europe and everywhere else there is the possibility of central banks offering unsecured loans.

 

Anyone suggesting that central banks can cause inflation is ignorant of how central banks work and of the conditions  that support them.

 

I'm sorry this runs counter to belief system @ ZeroHedge but this is the truth, deal with it or be crushed by it. I personally don't care.

 

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:10 | 2868885 sink critically
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I hate to break it to you, Steve, but the banks have never played by the rules and they never will.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:11 | 2869140 Kayman
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I am so relieved to find out that the Weimar Republic was a fiction. Thanks Steve.

One thing I will agree with you , is that most of Bernankes "printing" is electronic stroking so that the self-appointed TBTF can offload their nonperforming debt. Hence "excess reserves".

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 20:16 | 2869495 steve from virginia
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It is conditions that render central banks insolvent not rules. Conditions cannot be altered, they are grounded in physics (think 'gravity').

 

Weimar hyperinflation (along with parallel hyperinflations in Poland, Hungary, France etc.) was the result of a) World War I which Germany lost, b) flow of gold into Weimar from the US/Europe by speculators looking for yield, c) refusal of Weimar treasury to sterilize the flows by borrowing internally, d) currency arbitrage between gold (in all currencies) and Weimar paper currency.

 

BTW: there was 'hyperinflation' in the US during the same period, it was called the 'Roaring Twenties'. The reason there was no massive paper depreciation is there was adequate supply of private sector debt to mop up excess currency (which wound up on Wall Street).

 

You don't want to be proven wrong the hard way, my man. The consequences can be 'unpleasant'.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 07:32 | 2870165 Currency is Debt
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You need help Steve. I dont even know where to start. 

 

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:10 | 2868875 newworldorder
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QEternity Explained further.

We are at the Zenith of what many Keneysian economists believe to be the "Modern Money Theory," which places the financial actions of the US Government outside the laws of markets, supply and demand, taxation and finaly the will of the people as articulated in the US Constitution.

This/that arguments, budgets, debt burdens and any kind of borrowing do not matter because they are not funded by the real economoy of labor/intellect/raw material.

MMT through QEternity is the expressed will of the US government to spend what it wants in whatever areas it wants as long as the interest payments on borrowed digits can be paid and as long as there is faith in the governments ability to continue this process to infinity.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:13 | 2868893 Tyler Durden
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Here is the one simple chart that proves MMT or whatever three letter acronym is popular at any given time to describe exceptionalism for any given era, is always wrong:

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:23 | 2868923 Mad Mohel
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The Brits had a pretty good run those little pricks. I think we can at least tie them, then go out American style in a blaze of glory instead of a limey whimper.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:34 | 2868950 RiverRoad
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Let's go out in a gang Bang.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:16 | 2869030 Brindle702
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Oppa Gangnam Style, no?  (But then would we have to work an average of 2,357 hours annually like the S Koreans do to make this work?)

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 03:17 | 2869956 Parrotile
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If "those litle pricks" had done the sensible thing and sided with Germany in WW2 you'd be speaking German (that is if you were even alive). The Axis Coalition would have had a nice little indestructible airbase within a few hours flight of the US Eastern seabord, and with the aviation expertise of two world leaders (remember, "unbombed" US of A didn't develop the gas turbine - the UK and Germany did) and such futuristic aviation designers as the Horten brothers, America would have faced the very realistic fate of being nuked into submission rather quickly.

And never forget just how much "help" you have had from the UK Taxpayer in guise of "military assistance" in all your little expeditions to bolster your grip on everyone else's assets (whilst your trigger happy buffons seem to be always able to shoot down UK flagged aircraft - so called "friendly fire accidents").

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:23 | 2868926 newworldorder
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I am in agreement with you. EXCEPT - we are in uncharted waters.

No other country of the modern era has wielded the actual or implied power of the US. I am not advocating for our exceptionalist but simply pointing out that the role of benign, trusted, powerfull and rich protector, has been entrusted to us. If not us then whom? This is where the worldwide faith in the US comes from by governments as well as individuals alike.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:40 | 2868967 TNTARG
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"the role of benign, trusted, powerfull and rich protector, has been entrusted to us"?

I'd say "fear" defines it better. The US were and still are a huge corporative ferociuos cruel, heartless, unkind, vicious, oppressive monster. Even against US citizens.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 16:36 | 2869072 newworldorder
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I will partially agree with you on the "fear" motivation for some of our friends or enemies, but will disagree with you on the 2nd part of your statement.

Despite all our faults the US does not practice willfull acts of monstrocity. If you want to see the most blatant transgressorscheck out the history of the world in the 20th century. If you do not trust the US - who you going to trust? Give us names.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:34 | 2869186 Shigure
Mon, 10/08/2012 - 18:07 | 2869245 newworldorder
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Lets not take this thread down a rats nest here. Your list of US Operations is noted and not defended. I was trying to point out  that the American people condone military actions due to good intentions. Many mistakes have been made. We are human after all.

As a matter of government policy, or political acquessence, we do not practice geneocide. Look at the 20th century - truly look at it and then compare our actions in the context of what has been done for the last 100 years.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 03:25 | 2869957 Parrotile
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A good start would be a list of non-belligerent nations that have NOT used nuclear weapons against civilians.

Just 'cause the US spends half the World's military budget does not mean the US is the best Country to "control" everyone else. Your track record for purely profit motivated intervention, and hiding behind a deliberately obstructive bureaucracy when it suits you (remember Bhopal??) is hardly indicative of a Country one can trust to "do the right thing" (unless your definition of the right thing is anything that disadvantages others to the benefit of the USA)

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:16 | 2869149 Kayman
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Military Power requires Economic Power; the latter is quickly waning.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:26 | 2869167 Shigure
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The cost of war to the US

http://costofwar.com/

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:09 | 2868881 BurningFuld
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So China spent the last 10 years with their population working like slaves to save up $ 1 trillion and Ben hits the print button and just prints up the same amount in a year. Wonder if China is secretly pissed??

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 15:26 | 2868934 Mad Mohel
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That dumb sonofabitch has us trying to ride the dragon. In the end we all get torched.

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 17:06 | 2869131 Mark123
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Brilliant....these comments are what make ZH sooo entertaining!

Funny, but China is probably pissed, but still supports the money printing so they can keep running their factories 24/7.  Talk about being in a no-win situation.

 

Mon, 10/08/2012 - 21:43 | 2869630 draghithebearslayer
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The greatest threat to the Chinese oligarchs is economic downturn. Their nightmare scenario goes something like this: Recession in the US - consumption shrinks - Chinese economy tanks - factory workers loose their jobs - disgruntled unemployed mass becomes angry mob and overthrows the communist party. Therefore they're probably secretly cheering for QE Ctrl+P... afterall, the $trillions China saved up weren't made by their sweat and blood. As for the mass, they're happy as long as they can keep their job and feed their family. Incidentally, it's not that different from how things are in the states.

 

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