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Turkey Deploys 25 F-16s To Syria Border

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Turkey has confirmed that it is deploying at least 25 additional F-16 fighter jets at its Diyarbakir air base close to the border with Syria. Al Jazeera reports that Erdogan, Turkey's PM, noted that he does not want war but needs to prepare for anything and at the same time NATO's secretary general has "all necessary plans in place to protect and defend Turkey if necessary."


Via Al Jazeera:

Turkey has confirmed it is deploying more fighter jets to an airbase close to the border with Syria, amid artillery exchanges along its tense southeastern border with Syria.


Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister, addressed parliament on the issue on Tuesday, saying that his country does not want war, but that Turkey needs to be prepared for anything.


At least 25 additional F-16 fighter jets were deployed at Turkey's Diyarbakir air base late on Monday.


Meanwhile, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the NATO secretary-general, said that Ankara can rely on the alliance, which has "all necessary plans in place to protect and defend Turkey if necessary".






"I would like to commend the Turkish government for the restraint it has shown in its response to the completely unacceptable Syrian attacks," Rasmussen said as he went into a two-day NATO defence ministers meeting.


"Obviously Turkey has a right to defend herself within international law," he said, noting that the alliance has "all necessary plans in place to protect and to defend Turkey if necessary".


"We hope it won't be necessary, we hope that both countries will show restraint and avoid an escalation of the crisis," he added.




Syrian shells last week killed five people in a Turkish border village, sparking a series of retaliatory strikes and a firm message of support from NATO for Turkey.


The Turkish parliament on Thursday gave the government the green light to use military force against Syria if necessary.




Immediate truce


UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday urged the Syrian government to declare an immediate truce to bring an end to the conflict that he said had left 20,000 dead over the last 19 months.


"It is unbearable for the [Syrian] people to continue like this," he said.


"That is why I have conveyed to the Syrian government [a] strong message that they should immediately declare a unilateral ceasefire."




"That is exactly what I have discussed and I am in the process of discussing with the member states of the [UN] Security Council and the countries in the region," he said.


Ban urged "the opposition forces to agree to this unilateral ceasefire when and if the Syrian government declares it" and he called on countries supplying arms to either side to stop in order to ease the suffering of the Syrian people.


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Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:04 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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fucking ridiculous. 25 F-16s to pretect from a few stray mortars (fired by rebels) ?

He wants war becuase his banker wants it.



Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Cause 24 F-16s....just ain't gonna cut it.


We WILL blast your ass......25 times.


Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:18 | Link to Comment Dalago
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Why would they send jets to fly over Turkish supported rebels?  And why are these rebels shooting themselves and blaming Syria?  Whats the expression?  Something smells rotten in Turkey.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Because they can......any other questions?


You play checkers....they play chess.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:56 | Link to Comment malikai
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I play Illuminati.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Spirit Of Truth
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Note too that Israel just deployed a Patriot missile battery on Mount Carmel near Haifa:

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 19:44 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Yeah, 'cos the F-16 is known to be the best countermeasure to mortar rounds.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 21:26 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Turkish zeppelin fleet deployed to D'yarMak'ir dirigible base, according to a report from Al Hashisha. It is believed that the simultaneous deployment of 25 F-16 fighter jets to Diyarbakir air base was intended to divert attention from the airships' movement toward the Syrian border.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:18 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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25 is such a big giveaway. You always fly in pairs(because that's combat efficient) you need 25 planes like you need 5 wheels on your car.

That extra jet is surely a decoy for provocation and possibly to shot it down and start a war.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment pods
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A squadron will have several extra planes to allow for maintenance downtime.

Can't wait for the video:

"I'm NOT leaving my wingman."

And cue Kenny.................."I, went, to, the, danger zone!"



Tue, 10/09/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Element
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Don't know how Turkey do things but many Western squadrons are 24 aircraft, usually about 16 aircraft mission-ready at any given time, and 8 or so unavailable due to failures, scheduled maintenance, training of pilots, and upgrading.  Virtually never are all aircraft available, especially as they get older.

The Turks bomb other countries all the time, they bombed Iraqi Kurds just last Sunday night.

How very NATO-like of them!

And then they threaten a major international escalation and war if NATO mortars [RT says this has been confirmed] are coming from Turkish supplied Rebel forces ... and landing back in Turkey ... and killing Turks.

Is anyone in the Turkish media, Govt or community asking direct questions about this?  Becasue it's all a bit like invading and killing Iraqi for 9-11 when they had nothing at all to do with any of it (or any WMDs).  So you just blame the country that had nothing to do with it, and simply pretend that you're right, don;t allow any questioning of thus, and pretend that your stance makes some sort of sense, and thast it's somehow justified and necessary. 


Hey, Turkey, an armed foreign-backed insurgency can attack and destabilise your country too you know?  Don't go thinking you're a special-case or something, you aren't.  You'll reap exactly what you allowed to be sewn in your names, and don't expect any sympathy when that happens.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about the readiness of 24 F-16s.

I would worry about the 30 countries who had sent some of their ships to practise de-mining off the coast of Iran.

I'm not sure many armed foreign-backed insurgents are available to tackle Turkey.  Iran?  Pakistan?  That's another matter entirely.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Hmmm. Let's see...

US carriers in place? Check. 
US amphibious assault  ships in place? Check.
Initiation of currency collapse in primary target? Check.
Initiation of false flag in secondary target, enabling NATO to claim victimhood for consumption of stultified domestic audience? Check.

Time to buy some oil calls methinks.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Except ..... I've been reading the "Mideast war is imminent" story for years now. Every time a new aircraft carrier gets rotated to the Persian Gulf. Every time there's a new military deployment of any kind, "war is imminent".

I'm not denying that they're probably preparing for different eventualities, but preparing and imminent are two completely different things. Your bullet #3 is exactly why an attack is not imminent. As long as the U.S./Israel can destroy Iran economically by importing massive inflation into their country and destroying their currency, there is no need for a military attack, and in fact a military attack at this point would be enormously counter-productive. The U.S./Israeli neocons are "winning" right now via economic warfare.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Overfed
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Well, war in the MENA has been more or less continous for the last 11 years. It just heats up and cools down like solar flare cycles. There is certainly economic warfare going on, and Iran is getting pushed hard to have a Fort Sumpter moment. The US/NATO/Banksters aren't going to rest until the entire MENA is destabilzed and totally in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood. From there it's simple to exploit the various sectarian differences, keep all of them off balance and shore up the Petrodollar for a little longer.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:41 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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"As long as the U.S./Israel can destroy Iran economically by importing massive inflation into their country and destroying their currency, there is no need for a military attack, and in fact a military attack at this point would be enormously counter-productive. The U.S./Israeli neocons are "winning" right now via economic warfare."

Think again, Sparky. According to this article the economic pain has been shifted to the middle class only-the very folks who don't support the government anyway while the masses who do don't even use currency affected by dollar valuation:

THERE IS NO HYPERINFLATION IN IRAN–The Real Story Is Much More Interesting

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:08 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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I read the article. We're going to have to agree to disagree. Destruction of a nation's currency always leads to social and political upheavel. Always. The middle class are the people who keep the lights on and the wheels turning. If you impoverish and/or demoralize them, things start to break down.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 As long as the U.S./Israel can destroy Iran economically by importing massive inflation into their country and destroying their currency, there is no need for a military attack...

I think you're right, there. And I think we're far more likely to 'liberate' Syria first. In self-defence, of course! We have proof - documented proof! - that those shells fired into Turkey, our staunch, freedom-loving ally, were lobbed by Bashar Assad (boo! hiss!) his very self!

However, with point # 3, we may have tweaked the (paper) tiger's tail enough to get Iran to actually attack all those juicy US naval morsels just offshore... (a bit like 1941 with the Japs).

If the Iranian 'leadership' think they're going to get hung from lampposts by their 'own' people in regime collapse, they may decide they might as well give a shooting war with the US a chance... particularly if their anti-ship missile arsenal is anywhere near as capable as some analysts posit.

But... us 'liberating' Syria, or getting attacked by Iran... either would be profitable scenarios for a man with some oil calls.

Not so good for the civilians caught in the crossfire of course, but when did our dear leaders ever give them a second thought?

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Let's keep in mind, those are 25 Turkish M-16's with cut-rate systems ... reminds me of the 80's flick "Head Office", where a multi-national mega-corporation sells old fighter jets to two warring oil-moneyed African tribes, who don't pilot the jets in combat but simply roll them down opposite hills and crash them together.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment optimator
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Syrian Mig 23 are also "Stripped",

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Ms. Erable
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Turkish pilots are some of the best in NATO; they've been flying against the Greeks in a mock air war on a daily basis for years (and not in the spirit of friendly competition). Training trumps 2nd-line equipment most days.

But I'd much rather see the pilots frag Erdogan than fly over Syria.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Element
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Not very likely.  The Turks have invested heavily in updating their combat aircraft (for example, the Israelis have upgraded their Phantoms to be very capable aircraft).  Just because a jet is aging does not mean its not very capable. I may have had extensive upgrades. 

Here's the hint; Turkey has taken delivery of the WedgeTail MEASA AEWC aircraft, which is probably the most advanced and capable multirole AWACs-type platform in the world today:

For fighters to work with that aircraft they need extensive networking and avionics upgrades so you can bet these Turkish F-16s have all that and will run rings around most fighters, because Wedgetail was designed to work with the networks and avionics packages in the SuperHornet and F-35, which both countries with the Wedgetails have ordered.  So you can bet those aircraft were all updated, just like all the old RAAF Hornets were (which basically all now have the same avionics suite as a superhornet, but minus its AESA radar) I'd be surprised if the Turks did not do comparable upgrades to the f-16s.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 14:49 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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With friends providing air superiority support, Turkey could fly Sopwith Camels over Iran and make it count.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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Erdogan is likely a crypto-jew, a progeny of the Young Turks. He put on a little show when israel attacked that supply ship headed to Gaza when numerous Turkish citizens were killed but no artillery retaliation or redeploying fighters or troops like he is doing now over a lot less.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment aerojet
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False flag in 3...2...1...

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:42 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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Wait a minute...are you telling me Turkey's are flying?!  Now that's a fucking false flag!

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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NATO v Putin, a farce in innumerable parts.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment PhattyBuoy
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"may the farce be with you"

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment mvsjcl
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" protect and defend Turkey..." From what? A rabble of rebels?


Edit: Ach, VonMan. I see you beat me to the obvious. You get my +1.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Yeah. 2-3 artillery shells fall into a field...


/this is what warmongering trash believe

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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To defend Turkey from the imminent massive invasion coming from the Syrian war machine. That pesky civil war in Syria is only pinning down a small fraction of the modern, highly-skilled Syrian army. With their state-of-the-art military hardware and enormous manpower reserves, Syria clearly is a clear and present danger to drive all the way to Istanbul.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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Surely Putin has a spy satellite that can track the CIA operatives in their SUV tearing around north Syria.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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another one of US's foreign aid bitches towing the party line.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:18 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Right, just like when they refused to let US troops open a northern front against Iraq:

and when they severed ties with the US "puppet master" Israel:


Face it, the Islamic fascists in Turkey have control and they want a similar regime in Syria.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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you apparently misunderstand the golden rule

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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The lies are fucking sickening. The west wants a war with Syria but they are too fucking cowardly to initiate one on their own so they have to fabricate one and work through their proxies. They can't be seen getting their hands dirty with the elections coming up.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment f16hoser
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Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment prains
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shwarma on the house

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBoner_
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Ban Ki-moon can fuck off - he has plenty of innocent blood on his hands through inaction, prevarication and legitimisation of illegal acts.


Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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Turkey simply won't take no for an answer. The world will fall for its false flag one way or another.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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"We have a very pro-Israel, a very pro-Zionist and a super control over Turkey… Turkey is becoming more of a puppet, where in the past they’ve been very closely aligned with Syria," said former American Intelligence Linguist, Scott Richard, on Saturday.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment phat ho
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shhh... the drones will hear

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Brilliant!  Move them in range!

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:15 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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And remember that Turkey hosts several dozens tactical nukes...

Also, Putin is set to visit Turkey next week, which could be a game changer.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment darteaus
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The Putin visit is simply the latest, most visible sign of Turkey's great game of playing East against West.

They joined NATO when the USSR looked strong ("Best not mess with us, or you'll be messing with NATO"), and now they host Putin as the US looks like it's weakening ("Best you keep kissing our posterior, or we'll just change sides.").

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment malikai
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I thought they were all gone since the cuban missile crisis. I was wrong:

"Today, Turkey hosts an estimated 90 B61 gravity bombs at Incirlik Air Base. Fifty of these bombs are reportedly PDF assigned for delivery by U.S. pilots, and forty are assigned for delivery by the Turkish Air Force. However, no permanent nuclear-capable U.S. fighter wing is based at Incirlik, and the Turkish Air Force is reportedly PDF not certified for NATO nuclear missions, meaning nuclear-capable F-16s from other U.S. bases would need to be brought in if Turkey's bombs were ever needed."

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Munkey
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I don't think pulling the NATO card was meant for Syrian rebels. It was most definitely meant for the Russians and Chinese as a deterant. At times like these I often wonder: what would Putin do?

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:22 | Link to Comment phat ho
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It's a good way for the syrian rebels to get a bigger footprint momentum going you gotta admit

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment phat ho
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if that is the case I need to add

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment The big unzip
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5 mortars fired into Turkey...........$500

 Cost to equip troops....................$10,000

Syria destroyed by F-16s..............Priceless!

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:31 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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Oh shit there is a drone flying over my house.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Please stop obstructing their view of your monitor.  And punch up your financials.  Oh, and....don't forget to drop trou and bend over.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:41 | Link to Comment phat ho
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Meanwhile; in a shittier part of the desert....

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:46 | Link to Comment cherry picker
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It is all about keeping the focus off the disease which is spreading at home.  The freedom eating federalitis is spreading everywhere using paranoia and the overly used word terrorist to justify actions they claim are to keep all the citizens safe as the citizens are increasingly exposed to hunger and poverty.

Same song, different singer is all and the tune has been heard before every century since nations were formed and governments took over.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:59 | Link to Comment malikai
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..."it is deploying at least 25 additional F-16 fighter jets at its Diyarbakir air base close to the border with Syria"

*WTI likes this

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 09:59 | Link to Comment marcusfenix
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if hypocrisy was a color it would be called Turkey. they fund, train and arm these so called rebels, let them use there territory for staging and supply routes, then start a war when some mortar rounds that may or may not (most likely not) have come from Syrian military fall on their side of the fence.

yet all the while, they bomb the shit out of northern Iraq because that's where the Kurds hang out, last I checked Iraq was not Turkish sovereign territory. 

of course, Turkey is really just playing their part in this farce, the good little NATO drones that they are. the idea that they have to "defend themselves" is just beyond absurd as their is no proof the shelling came from the Syrian military and even if it did Turkey brought that on themselves.

fund, train and host hostile, violent people to go into your neighbors country, kill, rape and terrorize the population and make war on the legitimate government and then attack that country, when in the process of defending themselves from those same people a few mortar rounds fall on the other side of the border.

the way I see it the only one's in all this who have shown remarkable restraint is the Syrian military, of course they don't really have choice do they? they can't hope to win a war against Turkey, let alone all of NATO.

at least not until that errant Turkish cruise missile hits Tartus and Russia, in the interest of defending it's base, sends troops, armor, and jets in. at least that would be my guess as to how this whole thing is going to escalate and get quickly out of hand.

draft notices in your stockings this Christmas bitchez!

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Scalaris
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I'm probably seeing connections in unnecessarily connected events, in a true conspiracy-nut fashion, but it seems to me that this is a win-win situation from every aspect, in the sense that Syria is being pressured and faced with a regime replacement, which in the meantime leaves Russia without its investment in the city of Tartus, as a future black sea fleet and subsequent Mediterranean avenue, while Turkey is being supplied with helicopters and drones, in order to finish what's left of PKK, with US/NATO blessings, and rid the remaining instability of the area, in order to make way for an unconstrained access via a new pipeline from Kurdistan's oil & gas fields, to Turkey's ports.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment Scalaris
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25 F-16s to counter artillery firing from rebel fractions?

I would have opened with at least 3, maybe even 4 nuclear missile launches, just to keep things light at first.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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I wonder if Putin has a fat finger?

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:10 | Link to Comment BudFox2012
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I wonder how long it will be before Iranian motars drop into turkey too...

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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Propaganda.  If you have an enemy that's attacking you, you don't publish your counter-measures to the world.  Unless it's all propaganda fo course.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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They really do want to provoke Iran......never turns out as they expect however, war is funny like that

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 11:33 | Link to Comment meizu
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NATO doesn't care about turky, NATO will cheerlead for war from thousands of miles away.  Turkey will have to go in alone.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 13:08 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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Turkey thinks its getting a bump in prestige and influence, they're like Tommy in the Goodfellas movie  

Yo Turkey, you're not getting made, you're getting dismantled like Yugoslavia. 

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 14:30 | Link to Comment mudduck
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25 F-16s? I thought Turkey were flying F-4s or is that just what they used to for the false flag. The cheap bastards.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 14:55 | Link to Comment jumbo maverick
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So a gaggle of rebels drop mortars on Turkish soil and the response is full blown NATO? if I were a member of a rebel gaggle in Ohio and I dropped mortars across the border into Pennsylvania why would I do that, especially when I have no beef with Pennsylvania?

Remember back when bush wanted in invade Iraq the second time around and Turkey, although a NATO member then, refused to let American troops stage in Turkey.

Well think of the motivations here. Maybe the rebel attacks on Turkey(remember these are Obama supported rebels) are a false flag. Maybe we have American supported agitators attacking Turkey on purpose. Once the Turks get mad enough America can strike a deal along the lines of bartering a deal with turkey to allow the US to mass troops on the border areas. America would say that they will smash the Syrian rebels all the while staging troops and equipment in massive new bases along the border of turkey and Iran.

The US could then topple Syria from within and they will have Syria and Iraq all locked down for the coming war with Iran. Course this is all planned out in case the house of saud falls.

With the lock down of Syria Iraq Iran and Afghanistan all by US forces there is no way that Russia or china could take over the Arabian peninsula. The Med. Sea the persian gulf, the red sea and all of the middle east will be controlled by the US and Israel, with the exclusion of Pakistan which will be sandwiched in between US controlled Iran and Afghanistan and democratic India. Expect more drone strikes and financial aid to Pakistan. Kill the opposition and buy the rest.

The only way for china or Russia to control the area would be by water. China does not have the navy to do it and Russia cannot send an armada halfway around the globe without any support bases around.

This is all long term. Look at a map. Draw a diagonal line from Finland all the way down across eastern Europe and extend it across the north of India into the bay of Bengal. The US is building an invisible wall for china and Russia.

Tue, 10/09/2012 - 20:24 | Link to Comment Tompooz
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If this escalates further, political leaders in Western Europe should seriously consider pulling out of NATO 

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