Debate Post-Mortem: Wreckin' Raddatz, Laughin' Angry-Boy Biden, And Car-Crash Ryan

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And so another disingenuous display of avoiding saying anything definitive about anything specific is complete. Without doubt the winner of this evening's 'round-table' is Martha Raddatz. Despite the incessant interruption and grinning/laughing/anger/frustration of Biden (and Ryan bringing up a 'car-crash' - awkward), the two candidates had relatively equal talking time (via CNN Biden Won 41:32 vs Ryan 40:12) but Ryan pipped Biden by 7,434 words to 7,425! Picking a winner is tough - so we won't - but Obama's odds rose from a pre-debate dump to 61% to over 64% (this morning's levels) - but stopped rising once the candidates began to discuss Afghanistan and Syria and when Ryan 'summed-up', Obama's odds crashed back to unchanged at 61.2%. Ryan won the drinking game 32 to 26.

 

Biden - 3x Malarkey

Ryan - 1x Car-Crash

 

The Obama Odds Rollercoaster:

 

The Final Score in The Drinking Debate (via @DebateDrinking):

 

 

 

The full headline stream from Bloomberg

BIDEN

*JOE BIDEN SAYS LIBYA ATTACK WAS 'TRAGEDY'
*JOE BIDEN SAYS ANY MISTAKES IN LIBYA WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN
*BIDEN SAYS OBAMA 'HAS LED WITH A STEADY HAND AND CLEAR VISION'
*BIDEN SAYS 'WE WEREN'T TOLD' LIBYA EMBASSY NEEDED MORE SECURITY
*BIDEN: 'WE FEEL QUITE CONFIDENT' IN ABILITY TO STRIKE IRAN
*BIDEN: 'WE WILL NOT LET THEM ACQUIRE A NUCLEAR WEAPON'
*BIDEN: 'THEY DON'T HAVE A WEAPON' IN IRAN
*BIDEN: WAR MUST ALWAYS BE 'LAST RESORT'
*BIDEN SAYS 'THIS PRESIDENT DOESN'T BLUFF'
*BIDEN: 'WE CAN AND WE WILL' GET UNEMPLOYMENT UNDER 6%
*BIDEN SAYS TIMELINE FOR DROP IN UNEMPLOYMENT UNCERTAIN
*BIDEN SAYS ROMNEY, RYAN SHOULD SIGN PLEDGE TO MIDDLE CLASS
*BIDEN SAYS GOP NEEDS TO 'GET OUT OF THE WAY'
*BIDEN SAYS GOP HOLDING UP GOOD POLICIES TO HELP MIDDLE CLASS
*BIDEN: 'FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS' ON ROMNEY, RYAN MEDICARE PLAN
*BIDEN: 'WE WILL BE NO PART OF A VOUCHER PROGRAM' ON MEDICARE
*BIDEN: 'NO JUSTIFICATION' NOW FOR TAX CUTS FOR WEALTHY
*BIDEN: ROMNEY WILL CUT MIDDLE CLASS TAX BREAKS
*BIDEN: AFGHANS RESPONSIBLE FOR OWN SECURITY
*BIDEN: 'WE ARE LEAVING IN 2014, PERIOD'
*BIDEN: ALLIES AGREE W/ U.S. TIMELINE IN AFGHANISTAN
*BIDEN: TIMELINE IS NECESSARY TO MAKE AFGHANISTAN 'STEP UP'
*BIDEN: OBAMA ENSURING ASSAD REGIME FOLLOWED BY LEGITIMATE GOVT
*BIDEN: OBAMA DOING EXACTLY WHAT'S NEEDED IN SYRIA
*BIDEN: CATHOLICISM 'PARTICULARLY' INFORMS SOCIAL DOCTRINE
*BIDEN SAYS ACCEPTS, WON'T IMPOSE CATHOLIC CHURCH ABORTION VIEW

*BIDEN: 'WE INHERITED A GOD AWFUL CIRCUMSTANCE'

*BIDEN: PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR 'EVEN SHOT,' PEACE OF MIND

 

RYAN

*RYAN SAYS OBAMA WAITED TO CALL LIBYA ATTACK TERRORISM
*RYAN SAYS OBAMA IS 'PROJECTING WEAKNESS ABROAD'
*RYAN SAYS DEFENSE CUTS PROJECT WEAKNESS
*RYAN SAYS 'WE SHOULD ALWAYS STAND UP FOR PEACE' AND DEMOCRACY
*RYAN SAYS IRAN 'RACING TOWARD' NUCLEAR WEAPON
*RYAN SAYS ADMINISTRATION WAS AGAINST TOUGH IRAN SANCTIONS
*RYAN: ADMINISTRATION OPPOSED IRAN SANCTIONS, ISSUED WAIVERS
*RYAN SAYS ADMINISTRATION'S ACTIVITY ABROAD ENCOURAGES IRAN
*RYAN SAYS ADMINISTRATION INHERITED 'TOUGH SITUATION'
*RYAN SAYS ECONOMY 'HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION'
*RYAN SAYS 'MITT ROMNEY IS A GOOD MAN,' CARES ABOUT 100% OF U.S.
*RYAN SAYS DEMOCRATS HAD MAJORITY, FAILED TO HELP ECONOMY
*RYAN SAYS OBAMA SEND TAX DOLLARS TO 'WINDMILLS IN CHINA'
*RYAN: ENTITLEMENTS HEADING TOWARD BANKRUPTCY 'INDISPUTABLE'
*RYAN: OBAMA GOT CAUGHT W/ HAND IN 'PIGGY BANK' ON MEDICARE
*RYAN: 'IF WE DON'T FIX THIS PROBLEM,' SENIORS WILL GET CUT
*RYAN: 'WE ARE NOT GOING TO JEOPARDIZE' MEDICARE
*RYAN: ROMNEY'S 'ENTIRE PLAN' ON TAXES BASED ON HELPING ECONOMY
*RYAN: 'WATCH OUT MIDDLE CLASS' OBAMA WILL TAX YOU
*RYAN: UNLIKE OBAMA, WE 'WANT TO HAVE BIG BIPARTISAN AGREEMENTS'
*RYAN: ROMNEY HAS RECORD OF WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE
*RYAN: GAINS IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULDN'T BE LOST
*RYAN: U.S. SHOULDN'T BROADCAST AFGHANISTAN TIMELINE
*RYAN: TIMELINE GIVES ALLIES REASON TO TRUST US LESS
*RYAN: 'RUSSIA RESET'S NOT WORKING,' PROVEN BY SYRIA DISPUTES
*RYAN SAYS NO ONE PROPOSING U.S TROOPS IN SYRIA
*RYAN: U.S. SHOULDN'T BE 'OUTSOURCING' FOREIGN POLICY TO RUSSIA
*RYAN: FAITH, REASON AND SCIENCE BEHIND PRO-LIFE BELIEFS

*RYAN: OBAMA 'HAD HIS CHANCE' AND 'IT'S NOT WORKING'

*RYAN: HE, ROMNEY OFFERING REAL REFORMS, WANT TO EARN SUPPORT

 

An incredibly close race in the number of words uttered:

Biden 7,425 words

 

Ryan 7,434 words

 

So - overall Time Talking goes to Biden, Words Spoken goes to Ryan, and critical tie-breaker - drinking-game goes to Ryan; and so with no need to go to the official arbitrator (InTrade - which was unchanged after the late debate crash) - we call the debate for Paul Ryan by a score of 2-1!