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The 'Real-Thing' Biden vs Ryan VeeP Debate - Live Webcast
At 9pm Eastern, the debate that we suspect will go down in infamy begins. As the two Vice-Presidential candidates square off in a David-and-Goliath, young-and-the-restless, Palin-vs-Couric, 'Marquez-Pacquiao 3'-style debate-a-thon. The critical question remains - will Ryan ask if he can call Biden 'Joe'? Pick up your drinking-game cheat-sheet and grab the popcorn as the battle for of the ages begins...
Obama's Odds are sliding...
Some of the best V.P. Debate moments...
Dennis Miller sums it up...
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then you DO correctly understand the situation. And then pay their spread.
It's so cute they talk like social security and medicare will still be there for people in their 20 and 40! LOL!
Saturday Night Live is going to have a FIELD DAY with Obiden on Saturday. Will somebody wipe that fucking smirk off his face?
Am I the only person in the world who sees Veep Biden as the smirking, interrrupting, and rudest sack of shit the world has ever seen? What a fucktard.
http://vegasxau.blogspot.com
yes you are thats my daddie
Did anyone talk to Biden while he was cooped up the past week?
Joe is a bad actor...
Not a fucking clue..........
Joe is laughing again....
Biden..."who do you trust on this." I say neither of you. Biden "we'll print until you bleed" Ryan "now that's something we can agree on." Two spenders arguing who will spend is all I see.
Paul says he will eliminate loopholes for the wealthy...
The wealthy are feeding his campaing and looking for a tax break, right..???
Huh...???
The wealthy, in case you didn't realize it, is that the wealthy are giving to both sides.
Exactly. They really don't care who wins because both are bought and paid for. They only have elections so the sheeple can think they are living in a freedom loving democracy. What a sad joke.
I have to disagree on this one. I do believe that we have more freedom and liberty under ANYONE other than Obama and the current crop of Stepford-wive-democrats we have now.
Biden's disgraceful performance in indicative of the shit that the democrats and the leftist media have been shoveling for over 25 years now. It's all about accusing folks of being racists, anti-women, anti-education...they have no real ideas other than SPEND.
Even Clinton went along with the crowd - once he was dragged there. This fuck we have now will be defiant to the end, of either his reign or the country.
We can discuss the bankers and their croni-ism but the fact of the matter is that Obama is the worst of both worlds...a crony capitalist fully up the ass of wall street and the fed, and a totalitarian-communist-dictator.
By the way, I'm no big Republican supporter, I've been an independent since the day I could vote, since 1981, and we've got some bad ones now (Graham, McConnel, come to mind) but as far as Romney, I will be freer and better off under him, of this I am sure. Obama will clamp down on us all. It is coming. Now the TSA is going to force people to wear shock bracelets? Thanks Oblunder.
http://www.infowars.com/coming-next-tsa-taser-bracelets/
Zip it Joe...........
Joe's having a meltdown -his neurosurgery operation is coming back to haunt him.
Biden is an annoying asshole..........
Why does Joe keep referring to him as 'my friend"...
It's lawyer talk for "asshole"...
don't cha' know
Joe is beyond a jerk. Unbelievable.
An embarrassing, squirm-inducing display.
True to form, the pathologically self-absorbed do not possess the wherewithal to recognize when everyone else finally sees through them.
That's how they become clowns on stage, far past the point where the laughter stopped.
Biden is an idiot, he's talking to the guy that was on the Bipartisan Simpson Bowels committee that his own President called for. LMAO.
Probably one of the worst debates I've ever listened to. How stupid do they think the audience is? Two clowns on parade. There is no hope left.
Biden is a motor mouth
Umm.. Isn't decent debating skill a prerequisite to politics? He's going on like a stammering idiot.
just admit the mining and pipeline in afghanistan and support big corporate!!! corporate freedom fighters!!!
oh and get that opium going back to Russia... dont forget that!
Biden is a classic example of an aging narcissist who is becoming so crazy that he can no longer conceal himself with his false front.
i just watched sons of anarchy before the debate.. kinda a smooth transition.. Biden is a biker
Why are you insulting the Sons?
I don't think Biden is a Narcissist.
He's an enigma, for sure, but it is quite obvious he has no business being in a position of leadership.
He might best be described as a circumstantial by-product of how We've managed to get so far in an environment of bullshit.
Good bullshitter in a forgiving environment is a far cry from Narcissism.
He led the reworking of personal bankruptcy to kiss up to the credit card companies.. remember he rose in Delaware, the Bankers Nest
Yes, I do remember.
Ignorance and sycophancy are not Narcissism.
Be careful of your definition, else you will miss what's really going on.
Politics and Dancing With The Stars have finally combined to keep the sheeple riveted on topics of nothingness.
You forgot the "pre game show" so its politics, dancing with stars and sports..
SNAP doesn't do the NFL Network {yet}
I'm giving it to Biden right now. But it's not a slaughter like Romney/Obama.
You've got to knock out the champ. Ryan's not knocking out Biden tonight. But Ryan's not getting knocked out.
Americans dont like little weasles.. Ryan is too much like Timmy.. no one wants the weasle.. simple as that
they like blowhards
But they both know their stuff. They're both prepared. Nobody's done a big screw up. Tie goes to the incumbent.
I'm not sure that will change minds. The question is: "Is this guy competent?"
They both seem to be competent.
I think Martha would get more votes
Not Joe, he seems delusional to me. It's like he's a diabetic who has low blood sugar and is just stammering on whatever enters his mind. That is my professional diabetic opinion...
down arrow all you want you know they are both Zionist right? If Obama wins Sheldon Alderson will kill Barrack to get Biden in office to get his war
It is no wonder there is no bi-partisanship with this administration. Biden is an incredible jerk. Who would in there right mind want to meet with him half way on anything? If you talk down to a vp candidate like that can you imagine how he is in other circumstances?
I'm trying to be kind here. I think this is just so bad.
These Ryan stories are making me puke !
why would that be? Why would you puke? Perhaps you could emulate cholera and finish the process? Just wonderin'
But I bet that you are just putting us all on, that you are not puking at all.
I'm going with that!
- Ned
Free for all!!!!
What the debate needs are two statesmen who can articulate their clear and concise positions to averting an economic armagedon the likes of which have never been seen before. Such a statesman has retired to Texas and what are we left with? Good luck to all.
Ryan might be able to if the moderator would sit on Biden with his guffawing and chortling and interruptions. Further, just as Ryan gets a head of steam, she cuts him off.
She did have O at one of her many weddings, after all.
She had an O at the wedding. Did he fuck her in the parking lot or self induced?
Yeah, but foxnews told me not to worry about that because she's a solid typist...er, journalist.
And obviously, I wasn't referring to George W. Bush.
Moderator is horrible.
Biden is a stammering senile coot.
This is embarrassing to know this guy is a heartbeat away from being in charge of anything.
I pray to God above that Obama loses.
I can deal with the cronies but these buffoons are insane
Biden was the best person for the job of protecting POTUS from a domestic frag, Lol.
Poor Biden, Martha pulled out the ''Surge'' on him. LOl. What a putz.
Too much international stuff.
More domestic/economic.
huh, who let you into the Death Star?
Ryan reminds me of the guy that shows up to the party and works the room saying anything he needs to say to advance his career...as some guy fucks his wife in the bathroom.
Alien IQ, you sound like the scumbag in the bathroom.
I guess that makes you the guy working the room huh?
I think I'm getting the better end of the deal.
Wow...
Now, thats some funny shit.
The tail end at least if you have good taste.
Man these guys make Ron Paul look good.
Two men. One who raped your children, and the other stole your furniture, each telling you how dispicable the other one is. They are your landlords. To rent from anyone else is terrorism. Now go ahead and vote.
They are your landlords.
No they ain't, they're the lawyers for the landlords.
Biden: Uh, uh, uh, uh, ah, ah, ah, ah...
These guys are making me scared of the radical islamic boogeyman
Angry Joe. This is the end of it for Obama. I have no doubt.
"My friend......"
"My friend......"
"My friend......"
Jo-ke
THis is reminiscent of Al Gore during the Bush debate where he was huffing and shuffling around and making noises...can you believe Gore was about 300 votes from being in charge?
thank god the numbskull won...
/sarc
Me has a hunch Biden is going to get his ass chewed by Otool later, for making promises he can't keep! When is that douche moderator going to threaten Biden with a "TIME OUT"!
Like Obama kept ANY promises....
6 Trillion and we get nothing but a bill for our kids to pay - those who have jobs - not the "hope and change " POS kids
I love it. It's like two Celtic warriors going at it with the young one slapping the old one around with his sword. Time to retire to your potato garden, Joe.
Biden, funny little critter, ain't he? One minute a giggling buffoon, the next, an angry old man.
Where I come from , it's called "BIPOLAR".
So they are going to end this comedy with abortion and religion....... Crazy bitches
Paul, you were asked about religion, not abortion..............
Hello,im Joe so and so,your a no good cock sucker.Hello,Im Ryan so and so,and your a no good cock sucker.See,it's not that difficult.
Six days of coaching and they couldn't get it through Joe's thick fucking head to kill the shit eating grin at this debate?
People will forget the issues they debate, they won't forget Biden's rude ass demeanor. Give me 5 minutes with Biden and I could have his hair-plugged skull explode. What an idiot.
right since 8 years of rude ass Bush shows what about the American people?
Bite-me is coughing up the abortion question.
Two Catholics, lol. Biden will stand before the aborted Christ Child, as a Drag Queen Bride. The boy is going straight to Hell.
An "Alzheimers' Oooba Dooba" vs. a young slick snake oil salesman
No contest.....they both deserve a reservation at the gallows pole
This is great comedy. ZH rules bitchez.
You guys calling it for Ryan? I have no idea who the impartial, unbiased media are going to declare as winner. In either event, it wont be us.
IMO, I wouldn't say Ryan won, but Biden definitely lost; if that makes sense.
Yeah I do. I can't believe Biden came so close to the presidency. Jesus.
Definitely a win for Ryan. Nobody likes a wiseass. Biden just jacked up Romney by another 1%.
I'm calling it a win for the war machine and the debt machine.
Agreed.
"Yeah yeah yeah, we wanna cut the deficit, just not yet...."
my religion.... ZIONIST!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0ZIJdN05QE
Joe, the pope doesn't support abortion.
You are opposing your religious figurehead...
Joe, based on the catholic church doctrine, you are going to hell...........
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven"
Mark 10:25
I guess Romney is shit out of luck also huh? Along with just about every other member of congress and senate.
Joe, baed on every moral and ethical standard, you are going straight to hell.
Biden has gotten all throaty on the abortion question.
He's an actor...
He can't help it...
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/stunning-letter-infantry-colonel-commun...
The Colonel's letter rebutes Crazy Uncle Joe. There are so few senior commanders in Afganistan with small unit combat experience because the warriors left when they saw this bunch of remf's come into power.
We only have one sacred obligation as a government? To equip the fighters, and to take care of those who make it back.
Hm...now it all makes sense.
To protect ISRAEL and the central bank cartel!!
Nobody has said "MEOW."
If Ryan had any balls, he'd hit up plugs on his "middle class has suffered the last four years" gaffe.
I kept waiting for that....c'mon closing statement....get him......don't disappoint me.
They should have had Big Bird as moderator.
hilarious.. soon, the circus will need this
Joe is writing just before his closing statement..
Suduko puzzle done..........
Joe is writing just before his closing statement..
Suduko puzzle done..........
you give him way too much credit...
it was probably mad libs
Joe is like a child with all the "I better have the same amount of time as him, wah, wah. I"m not interrupting him on every issue. He gets 40, I get 15, wah, wah!"
The stupids who are having speakings that Ryan was winning the debate are very much stupids indeed. In the speakings that many peoples are doing on the internets these days...
BIDEN PWNED ryan!!!!!!!!
I haven't had speakings in a long time, last time was with turkey gravy and mashed potatoes.
First we get signal. Main screen turn on.
All your speakings are belong to Biden!
++++Loudspeakers
SCRANTON! DRINK!
I"m proud to say I didn't watch, or listen.
turnabout is fair play biden wiped the floor with this twerp
Just the facts, ma'am:
An hour into the debate, a survey of more than 300 debate watchers from across the political spectrum finds that Vice President Joe Biden is handily beating Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) by a margin of 65 percent to 35 percent.
The survey, conducted for HuffPost by OverTheShoulder.com, is dubbed a "Smartphone Town Hall" and draws on a random sample of more than 300 voters. The members of the panel are watching the debate live and answering questions sent to their phones.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/11/joe-biden-paul-ryan_n_1959824.html
"The survey, conducted for HuffPost"
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
OK Here's the Guardian from the UK:
Joe Biden wins on points – but not by enough to change anythingMy first reaction: Joe Biden gave it his best shot and it worked well, connecting with viewers and, I would venture, he won on points. But nothing near the sort of rout that Obama suffered last week, and nothing so dramatic as to change the course of the race as it is.
Paul Ryan's best moment was the administration's weakest point: the Libya attacks. But on other foreign policy questions he had nothing to say. But even then he was fluent enough, although passionless.
To put it another way: I don't think Florida's swinging back to Obama on the evidence of tonight. But some bleeding has been staunched.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2012/oct/11/vp-debate-ryan-biden-live
Draw on points seems fair, but Joe needed to win big. Problem for Joe is that while his substance may have been ok, he came across as a real douchebag.
Joe was in a no-win really; in the sense that all Ryan needed to do was be an OK guy and let Joe be the babbling old idiot he usually is.
If Joe would have shut up and stopped being an irritating idiot for a second, Ryan most likely would have done damage to himself.
That's how Mega Douchebags come across - Aka "Joe being Joe"
Since the Guardian is to the left of the NYT, that translates into a win for Ryan.
Personal Character, Biden, because you are a character does not mean you are a respectable person, tonight you were anything but respectable. You lost the debate on that last question alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-eUfBflR6s
Biden..."I've been on the dole longer than you Ryan, and dammit, I want those presses running faster than you do! And it's Bushes fault and you know it!
send that kid back to high school a total mismatch,
I think Biden's a little old for high school now.
but, his party is that of perverts and pedophiles - can you say Harry Reid?
So... pretty much equal with a little edge for Ryan.
Biden on points.
No knockout on either side.
The answer lies not in the ballot box, of this I'm sure, Grasshopper.
End of debate.
Paul shakes moderator's hands. Joe walked away from her.
Moderator greeted Paul's family and exits the stage.
Biden was beyond disrespectful and that will not play well...
to get respect you have to command it kindly be serious
Mitt/Ryan will win in November, THE BANKS have placed their bets.
Also, it's as if Biden didn't want to win - Biden comes across as old enough to be Ryan's grandfather.
Was Biden on drugs? He kept interrupting and behaved like a lunatic.
I hate both these guys. Biden showed his ass- he is an ass. Ryan is the snake politician but is clearly smarter than what we have now. Just scares me.
Too bad we can't get a simple honest public servant that wants to make this the greatest country in the world---ah the youthful ideals of civics 101.
Guess I'll just write in the best guy for the job, Ron Paul, and then endure a few more years of pure shitshow.
Ryan will do to America what JPMorgan did to Jefferson County... While Obama & Biden will just bleed it to death
they are all pathetic poseurs and i truly hope we have a few more years of shitshow but je le doute
Hey it's Tina Fey!
Thank God that piece of shit Biden is off TV. One more minute of this asshole spinning bullshit and I would have to start drinking to survive. Anybody even remotely believe or trust biden on anything? he is the absolute last guy I would ask anything serious. what a tube steak.
http://vegasxau.blogspot.com
one more minute of that high school kid and i would have to stop)
Oh, and the drinking game:
BIDEN: 36
RYAN: 49
Drunks gotta drink.
The last real man to be President was Theodore Roosevelt.
"... holding elective office as a New York State Assemblyman, Governor of New York, Vice President, and President, he was also a deputy sheriff in the Dakota Territory, Police Commissioner of New York City, U.S. Civil Service Commissioner, Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and Colonel of the Rough Riders *, all by the age of 42, at which time he became the youngest man ever to hold the office of President. "
"Roosevelt was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (not Noble) in 1906 for his work in the negotiations that led to the Treaty of Portsmouth ending the Russo-Japanese War in 1905. This made him the first American to win a Nobel Prize in any of the categories."
Compare that to "The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to U.S. President Barack Obama "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples" WTF?
"Strange as it may seem, high school football, college football, and even the Super Bowl might not exist today if President Theodore Roosevelt had not taken a hand in preserving the game. As originally played on college campuses, the game was extremely rough, including slugging, gang tackling and unsportsmanlike behavior. Quite a number of players died (18 in just the year 1905 alone, with 20 times fewer players than there are today). Interest in becoming a football player was declining!
But Roosevelt saw merit in the game. It built bodies and could build character, a sense of team and never giving up. Ten of the Rough Riders, the soldiers who fought with him in Cuba, gave their occupations as football players when they enlisted in 1898.
So in 1905, President Roosevelt summoned representatives of the Big Three (Harvard, Yale and Princeton, the universities who first played the game and who also set the rules of play) to the White House. In his best table-thumping style, Theodore Roosevelt convinced them that the rules needed to be changed to eliminate the foul play and brutality"
"Roosevelt started his efforts to preserve Yellowstone National Park as early as 1894 when he as president of the Boone and Crockett Club (a hunters' organization comprised of eminent scientists, lawyers and politicians) worked the Secretary of the Interior to enlarge the park and improve its governance. The resulting legislation provided new levels of protection from commercial development and "ecological destruction". Conservation of natural wonders and natural resources became TR's legacy. "
Does make you wonder where we are headed.
there is not one statesman or stateswoman gracing this earth and nor has there been since the war
and not to put too fine a point the first football game was at mcgill university in montreal canada
Roosevelt was a jackass. He didn't just end the Russo-Japanese War, he encouraged Japan to start the war and take the Korean peninsula after assuring Korea that the US would protect them.
"All the while Roosevelt had said "I should like to see Japan have Korea".[8] Bradley maintains that the Korean government labored under the misunderstanding, which the Americans fostered, that the country had the support of the Americans when, in fact, their fate had already been sealed."
His deal to end the Russo-Japanese war stabbed Japan in the back. He set in motion the rise of Imperial Japan causing all sorts of problems. His 5th cousin FDR finished off Japan by refusing to negotiate against war with the Japanese government whose failure to make a deal with the US cost them power and allowed the military to take over. The rest is history.
I honestly mean this, I could have picked any two random ZH posters with R and D leanings and get a much better debate. We do not get the government we deserve, we don't deserve what we saw tonight.
any random ZH posters with R and D leanings should get kicked the fucked outta here
Luckily the admin of this site understands freedom of speech better than that.
Unfortunately we do get the government we deserve because there are too many people who buy into the red or blue paradigm and they are too lazy to research and demand more from their representatives.