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Ron Paul On The "One-Party System"
Ron 'I'm playing the long-game' Paul will not go quietly into the night - and rightly so, it would seem, given his truthiness. In a recent brief interview on CNBC's Futures Now, he managed to diss Romney, smash the 'belief' in a 'two-party' system, and undermine any hope for economic change from the farce of an election. Summed up simply: "There is essentially no difference between one administration and another, no matter what the platform."
Starting by agreeing with Jim Rogers recent views that we discussed here, he refises to endorse Romney and then it gets interesting...
"They haven't the vaguest idea what Austrian free-market hard-money economics is"
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That's correct Ron...It's all Bullshit!
Let's see...
Do both Republicans AND Democrats:
1) Bail out banksters from their reckless behavior with taxpayer monies perpetually (while having aides and family take employment positions amongst the bankster ranks)? Check
2) Bail out Wall Street "firms" (those 'manufacturers' of wealth shifting & wealth destroying investment vehicles) from their reckless behavior with taxpayer monies perpetually (while having aides and family take employment positions amongst the Wall Street Parasite ranks)? Check
3) Support a trillion+ USD annual military budget complex whereby 90% of that which is procured is not needed & a waste of tax monies in order to enrich defense contractors? Check
4) Support a radically activitist foreign policy agenda that has extremely adverse long term financial, political and social consequences for Americans, current and future generations? Check
5) Support and vote for "laws" that attempt to gut fundamental, basic RIGHTS/LIBERTIES of the American Citizenry? Check
6) Have as their true constituents those who funnel cash into their coffers so as to allow them to increase their odds of winning elections/re-elections? Check.
7) Operate by stoking popular division by "talking up" social wedge issues (e.g. pledge of allegiance in school, gay marriage, manger scenes in public places, etc.) while actively working against the best interests of the American Citizenry on matters of real & lasting significance? Check.
Fringe Blogger Bearing had enough today, and so takes on a Hard Lefty! The original article from CounterPunch lit me up and burned my butt... What about North Korea, Ron Jacobs? (Yes, I suggested that he re-educate himself here at zerohedge.com)
http://tinyurl.com/8by7ask
ron paul's last day:
What kind of a fucking idiot are you anyway?
You really have no clue at all.
+ 1 Ron Paul, to my knowledge, for decades has stood for non-intervention, the opposite of what Aldous posits. I have to presume he has not studied Ron Paul or his positions at all.
Unbelievable Ron Paul myopia on display here.
Read this, follow the money, make some connects, look at Rand Paul....
http://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/how-money-power-controls-the-libertarian-movement-in-the-21st-century/
ori
ORI, do you automatically believe everything you read?
I can spot a dishonest, disingenuous, malicious, untruthful hit piece a mile away, and THIS one I could smell from the opposite side of the earth.
What *specifically* is not truth in it?
Save Ron Paul by destroying it's lies. Or not?
Ron Paul stands for the Jesuit run John Birch Society.
His father stood for Freemasonry.
His wife and both daughters stand for the Order of the Eastern Star.
His son Rand Paul is willing to forfeit his political ideology for a mere chance at being Romney's lackey.
Anybody who thinks he isn't controlled opposition should pass me some of whatever they are drinking.
Yes you are totally correct.
We got people thinking that DK article is bullshit. A hit piece. Lies.
This is their chance to prove it. Tear the article apart.
This is what real research is all about.
Can't just dismiss it.
Yep, that would be right up there with asking you, "So, how long have you been beating your wife?" and letting you get away with saying nothing.
No shit. Ron Paul, the one guy who has made more lonely votes in Congress than anyone else to try to stop the tide of totalitarianism, and it's still not good enough for the fuckin tinfoils.
excellent reply. also, re: the two are one party system: the illusion of "objectivity" in modern journalism, particularly in the u.s., often means that what both parties agree on, war on drugs, on terror, scary iran, wonderful likud zionists... makes those who disagree fringe or unserious, not "objective".
for an illuminating take with the v.p. debates as background: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/12/raddatz-debate-objec...
Clearly Mitt is doing this wrong.
What you do is tie a silver dollar to some fishing line.....cast it out.....and reel it back in slowly.
They're partisans who don't like anyone stealing the limelight from their douchebag-du-jour.
ORI-----
someone will write what you want to hear....you've reached conclusions and seek supporting proganda
my advice----think each premise through individually, sleep on it, look at the opposing viewpoints and understand them (doesn't mean you need to agree) and try to form your own opinion. its not easy good luck!!
Thanks for the excellent advice Derek. Much appreciated. I do that, everytime.
I've been deeply suspicious of RP and have thus followed his stroy (and research on what I believe to be his story) for a while now. I've said much th esame thing everytime, for over 2 years now.
The linked article has indubitable connections. Public knowledge. The Daily Bell (the other libertarian hang out) too, similarly. And their rah-rah-ing of RP. Much like here at ZH. DB has an even greater bias, and then you see the inter-connects.
People are free to believe what they want. If someone shows me something RP has done (beside the laughable job of educating people? Very weak for 35 years in the lime-light I must say, rag doll weak, spine-less weak or perhaps red-herring weak).
Someone pasted the list of bills he has tried to get passed in the past.
Talk about a Don Quixotesqe list, but a cunning one. Easy to table a bill you know will not pass, no?
Fractally speaking, a hard money advocate should have been all about actions (material) not words.
Not to mention his well paid family heavy staff and of course Aiyeeeee it's Randy the King of the switch as his prodigal son?
And most shocking of all for me, is how personally people take this. Williign to wish death upon someone because he/she dis-agrees with your choice of Hero?
That is what gets me. And makes me goad. All idolatory manias have ended badly. History is testament to that.
This one has ALREADY ENDED BADLY.
is that so hard to see? RP fanbois have been shafted. By him, the system, everything, but very much by him.
And yet, this.
All good. and good luck all around.
ori
You are making shit up again to fit your narrative.
"Very weak for 35 years in the lime-light I must say, rag doll weak, spine-less weak or perhaps red-herring weak"
Please point out when in the 35 years Ron was in the lime-light, then please contrast that to the time spent educating the masses done by those that were in the lime-light during that period.
Andanotherfuckingthing "Fractally speaking, a hard money advocate should have been all about actions (material) not words."
Submitting bills to be voted on is action. So is educating people while in the lime-light...
You are a master of Sapir-Whorfism.
Exactly. Masons are everywhere - no news there. Olympia Snow was a Rainbow Girl.
If you aren't part of something, you arent part of anything
Olympia Snow's rainbows are weather modified, together with her partner-in-crime, Kay Bailey Hutchison, with the blessing of David Rockefeller, all names familiar to anyone tracking "weather modification" bills this past decade. . .
http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest81.htm
post from January 2006, we're living "the future" now, Texas & Oklahoma are experiencing "exceptional" droughts, stories from Aug. 2012,
http://newsok.com/oklahomas-exceptional-drought-area-more-than-doubles-i...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/09/the-texas-drought-seen-...
thank goodness that bill never passed, hmm. . .
Ron Paul lost me when he denounced the 911 Truth movement. Guess that means some folks will call me a tinfoiler or whatever. Sorry. If you can't see that was an inside job or won't admit it, it's hard to get me to vote for you or care much. And though he's not a Freemason, lots of family members are.
On other matters perhaps more important than eating up RP's posturing, there's this:
http://www.infowars.com/disabled-vet-labeled-terrorist-for-investigating...
and this: http://www.infowars.com/coming-next-tsa-taser-bracelets/
The evil just keeps coming.
No, Ron Paul is a 33rd-degree Masonic reptilian alien who farms humans for food underneath the Denver International Airport, and who sends mind-control beams, using the water-powered Annunaki device that he discovered in the ruins of Atlantis, to his many followers via their secret Ayn Rand decoder rings.
This is your chance to prove it. Tear my assertions apart.
This is what real research is all about.
Can't just dismiss it.
boy he sure stuck it to the FED, didn't he... oh wait....
Great!
Lets rag on one of the few guys that at least tried to get something done with no support from the left or right. At least the guys that got us trillions in debt were successful with their legislation, so we should hold those douche-bags in high regard for being able to "get things done" no matter how detrimental. Right?
The point is that Paul was controlled opposition all along.
if he was such controlled opposition why was and is his point of view basically absent from the main stream media? one never sees any questioning of the likud party's position, the war on drugs, on "terrorism", the creeping, now jogging police state, the immorality and impracticality of the bankster bailouts....
what would make it uncontrolled opposition?
i have no idea about the money and personalities the article linked above cites. to me it comes down to the wisdom or not of the policy recommendations. on the topics above, and others, ron paul, gary johnson and definitely not obama or romney seem right.
oh, and an interesting point about ayn rand: http://www.alternet.org/story/149721/ayn_rand_railed_against_government_...
Don't present Joshua Holland (of all people) as a source for anything.
oh come on. the material isn't controversial as to its truth. the guy below makes the appropriate points in opposition and in many ways i agree with him. it's just kind of interesting to see the ambiguities in ayn rand, one whose take on the world (and, apparently, cigarettes) brooked very little.
I was picking up on the intertwining themes presented.
The larger point of the "controlled opposition" of individualist thought going on all around us, can you spot it here?
http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Debate-Commission-Biden-Romney-Debate.jpg
It there in most articles presented through the lens of the MSM, however sleight or veiled. Joshua, from his perspective, is just more blatant about it. For that he gets a single point for honesty ;-)
http://www.alternet.org/authors/joshua-holland
But it is as if, the idea of individual self sufficiency (and thereby less of a burden on the state and your neighbors) must be attacked from wherever it springs. Therefore, Rand must be shown as a hypocrite. To do so defeats the ideal proposed, or so the "progressive" thinking goes.
But to me it says more about the motives of those doing the attacking, than of the ideal itself that is being attacked.
She probably knew cigarettes were bad for her, but still smoked them. What's your point? She was forced to pay in to the social security and medicare system- she might as well take a payout; even if she spoke of their disasterous consequences. The problem is that they exist at all, not that those forced to pay for them use them eventually. In fact the problem is if you are forced to pay for them, you absolutely will use them.
oh, and fuck ron paul. I voted for him in the primaries, but I think he is just another tool in someones box.
Ah, i get it!
FED guy #1 - "Man, this is awesome! We have ZERO opposition in the media, or any political figure that can get the word out about us! LOL"
FED guy #2 - "Hey!! Why dont we CREATE opposition to ourselves.... and control it!!"
FED guy #1 - "Uhhh, why would we want to do that?"
FED guy #2 - "I dunno, boredom?"
DERP!!!
Controlled opposition to what? Either O'bamneybot, or Rombama winning?
Oh boy, you really need to get up to speed on 2 things that run our world...
a) Divide and Conquer
b) Hegalian Dialectic
Slowly, it will become clear. What is controlled, what is opposition, what are Rockher Fellas, what are dark agendas, what is geo-politics, who formed the ACLU? Who funded the Negro Rights movement.
Start yesterday or reality will hit you like a ton of bricks. I'm not being facetious at all. The stressors to the global fabric are clever fucks. And they've been at it for a long time.
ori
30+ years of "controlled opposition"?
LOL. What kind of stupid asshole are you?
You really need to lengthen your time-horizons to start thinking like the PTB, BOP.
30+ years is a drop in the time-bucket.
poof, it's gone and millions were fooled/duped/done!
ori
Maybe, but some people need some perpective on his voting record.
Hatchet jobs dont cut it...
Fair enough. But his voting record is like people writing in their names on the POTUS ballot.
He knows it will be a gesture, is all. A gesture that will win him the undying support of his followers.
Like Kucinich on the dem side.
Red Herrings, both, I feel.
ori
Wait a minute. If someone tries to change something and fails they are a red herring?
You really need to stop using the phrase "you really need" as an opener.
And here all along I thought I was having a problem with my alien implant...
"You just know that all the Paulbots and anarcho capitalists will shrug all this off as conspiracy theory crackpotery. I’ll bet a pot of gold on it."
You just know that all the Paulbots and anarcho capitalists will shrug all this off as conspiracy theory crackpotery.
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." That article is laughable btw. 9/10 leftist author.
"You just know that all the Paulbots and anarcho capitalists will shrug all this off as conspiracy theory crackpotery. I’ll bet a pot of gold on it."
And not one of those conspiracy theories has ever turned out to be anything other than just a theory, right? Especially the one that was going around for a while where Central Banks were going to globally co-ordinate the printing of money out of thin air(Global QE)!
That was just one of the many conspiracy theories that never came to pass that I am capable of discussing.
</sarc>
No we are just going meta-meta-meta on you.
If all opposition is bought then surely the "daily knell" is run by an anonymous blogger getting a paycheck from the illumanti...
Or you might be a paid troll..
Or I could be a paid troll...
ron paul is almost as dreamy and jesus-like as obama. Even more dreamier and jesusier. All politicians are the same except for ronpaul. He would have single handedly saved the republic. He can't motivate much congressional support, but if he was president, HE would stop the rise in the oceans, cool off the planet and get repubs and dems to no longer be the same.
Talk about fuckin sheeple...
@akak
Ron Paul has stated he is not a Freemason, and I take him at his word though maybe I shouldn't. I'm not interested in your trollery. I have done my research. Here is a link if you would like to do some as well.
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/ron-paul-and-freemasonry/
Secret oaths are bad. The people who swear to them are worse.
His dad swore them. He allowed his wife and daughters to swear them?
But yet RP didn't swear any secret oaths?
Ultra fishy if you ask me.
Who thinks none of this matters?
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" - Carl Jung
Word. You'll never get a truly good society this way.
my father is a lot of things that I am not. What one's father has done matters only to a certain point. Look at Rand Paul. He's not exactly on the same level as Ron. You have a lot of evidence to find and present.. In other words.. "PICS or STFU".
Fuck the Annunaki, Enki owes me money.
And he hoaxed Nibiru too. You ain't gonna see shit.
Tell you what, cut me 50% and I'll get your money back from that asshole.
I don't know if this helps, but Ron Paul mows his own yard, I know this to be a fact.
Very impressive. He got 1 bill that he sponsored passed out of 620 attempts. Maybe he should have hired someone to mow the yard.
you mean H.R.833 : Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act, yes, hard to get that passed.
American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009
Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
Taxpayers' Freedom of Conscience Act of 2009
Freedom From Unnecessary Litigation Act of 2009
Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2009
Second Amendment Protection Act of 2009
Complete and Permanent Property Tax Deduction Act of 2009
Free Competition in Currency Act of 2009
Any wonder why they don't pass?
Dude, any wonder he tabled them in the first place?
Because he knew they would not pass.
*head shake*
ori
HOW COULD THEY EVER GET PASSED IF NO ONE WILL TABLE THEM?!?
I always wondered what that funny smell was from in the Denver Airport.
I just thought it was from the TSA agents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjWEE0hmjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbH4Amzn-Rk
"This is all a rotten show"
"What did you do? Quit?"
"What can I do? against the machines?"
"All the good in this world came from fools. Fools who faced long odds while trying to lift his thought off of the ground."
Do you REALLY think that your attempt to marginalize the message by resorting to character assassination will fly? Eat shit and die pond scum troll. Oh, and btw, your sister is a whore.
Ron Paul is not, and never has been, a mason or freemason... Lets make it clear... Here is a link: http://www.ronpaul.com/misc/ron-paul-not-a-freemason/
@akak
Congratulations on the ability to use your olfactory sense in a smell-less medium. ;-)
That said, shit stinks. I'm happy to attack anyone's sacred cows. Do show me something (ANYTHING) Ron Paul has done. Not said. Lots of saying has happened. Just sayin' if you know what I'm meanin'.
oh wait, he did raise a lot of money did he not?
What a Bomb da man is. Ron Paul, teflon man. He can do no wrong because he "says" the right things.
No "man" can survive like he has in this system unless he is "controlled". The good doctor has shown his real side these past few months. Flip like a flop. Establishment Freemason Hard money distractor.
I'll call him Ron "The Texan Piston" Paul. He is In, he is out, he is in, he is out......
Feel free to keep on loving/liking him.
Meanwhile, I'll feel equally free to hold my own POV and use my (what I consider rather refined) judgement on what I believe and what I don't.
In a free world, liberatarians seem to have no problem squelching other people's points of view.
Such a contra-indication in terms. No? I mean yes? hmmm?
ori
The Texan Piston : Fed? Nanke?
Fednankers: ?
TTP: Can I haz awedit?
Fednankers: Fuck off
TTP: Oh, Ok, sorry I aksed
In an environment of heavy brainwashing, hero-busters are themselves heros. Kudos.
Choose your heros carefully. Don't choose one who denies 911 truth. It's a litmus test that can be very helpful with discernment.
Gracias CF. And yes, indeed.
ori
P.U.!
I was smelling some serious shit.
Then I closed ORI's web link...the smell went away
Yes, he does. Its one of his many isms.
You know, it only takes about five minutes worth of reading to fully debunk that article (in relation to Mises and Rothbard, that is). Yes, the elites make the attempt to own ALL avenues in an effort to protect their weak flanks, but that doesn't mean they are successful at doing it. (Rothbard's break with Cato, for instance)
Instead, they create fiction under the guise of "debunking." Of course, since most of their audience isn't well versed in the subject matter, they not only get away with phrases like Austrian faux Economics, other well-intentioned, yet unenlightened people helo spread the meme.
That website, frankly, is a P.O.S. designed to protect the elite from their true opponents. In other words, some agency psyop.
I see claims of fiction everywhere, but no proof.
The only true opposition is a man in the street who has burned a flag.
Of his own volition of course.
The rest are just pretenders of various degrees.
Hustling for "Fame, Fortune, Fa-gina".
http://youtu.be/Cn6rn-eBCOk?t=3m26s
Which one of the wankers on that site is Max Fischer aka Libertarians For Prosperity, aka Redneck Repugnicants? The about page is straight out his posts here.
This isn't about Ron Paul. The issues he raises are the crux of it. He's not out there asking folk to vote for Ron Paul anymore. He's out there promoting Libertarianism and exposing "The Lie" and always has been; i.e. up until he pulled out of the race, which I found to be somewhat strange. The weird thing is, he may still be pumping the issues but he was on the national and world stage (leading up to Tampa) and had the press at his finger tips. Now he is left to delivering the message via fringe (not to us) blogs. WTF RP? You still haven't delivered an intelligent reason for pulling out. Once a Libertarian always a Libertarian. Our forefathers didn't abandon the battle mid-charge.
Pissweak end to to a popular and growing-by-the-minute, campaign. The big question is; Why?
Like Ross Perot and the tea party, he was only allow to operate to divert some pent-up anger and the was programmed to self destruct.
Vote for Belle! - a true alternative.
A vote for any of them is a vote for perpetual theft. Form a second party; The Protest Party. Have a Libertarian platform written into its constitution and you'll piss it in. Protestors of all stripes will jump on board.
Its comforting really to have only a binary decision. Do you really need anything more? Any knowing that they are essentially the same makes it easier. Like coke or Pepsi. No there is true americana! We could debate all day which is better thank god we live in a democracy - greatest nation on earth. many people would give anything to live here and a medical system that is the envy of the world and what about those yankees can they do it again? and what about the schools you know kids these days learn differently not like you or I. did you watch jersey shore I can't believe it!
I can't tell if your post requires a sarc qualifer or not.
Do you mean "binary" as in Liberty or binary as in democracy?
I'd sooner take comfort in my unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, being supported by the guiding laws of the Libertarian Constitution, rather than mustered and trampled upon whilst living under the sufferance of your damned Democracy and some contrived government bebevolence.
Political promises made, liberty forgotten.
Federationist.org
Yeah, cute name but can you imagine the Protest Party as a write in? Isn't federalism what got us into this mess in the first place?
Actually, the federationist platform is ANTI-federalist.
Anti-federation federalists. Oh.
I think I get it. Is that like bestowing Obama with a peace prize?
Maybe you should try reading the platform.. you _can_ read, correct? More importantly.. can you comprehend?
It's all in the name as an attractant, is what I was infering, dopey. I read their platform on their opening page and it is a you say, Fererationalists, backing their movement the constitution as their platform. But why didn't they call it something less nuanced, like the Constitution Party or something? You could do the same with the Protest Party. Comprende`? If not, just leave it alone.
Once again, isnt federation what got us (the States) in the mess we are in?
Savvy?
i smell a doppleganger; ron paul rocks you motherfucker!
Ah, finally, a voice of reason, articulate, erudite.... a Snob Gobbler to boot.
Shall we proceed from this most excellent platform you've priovided for us.
You're up. We await your next pearl-flow, you articulate motherfucker, you.
Nice disguise by the way, coming across as blue-collar and all.
ori
Doppling, Gang-'em Style tm
Your regard for that article speaks poorly for your cognitive abilities. The author does little more than state degrees of separation between Dr. Paul and various facists of Washington D.C.. The article speaks nothing of Dr. Paul's history, words, or beliefs.
Then again, I once met a person whose father attended a lecture by Stephen Hawking. Using the same rationale of that article's author, I must be Dr. Hawking's intellectual heir and protege. How fortunate for me.
Magni, bad example. Have you ever wondered who writes Haw Haw Haw King's speeches?
Mr. String theory is A marionette, on Strings. I thought everyone knew that.
Darn it. ZH average IQ and knowledge Q is falling, failing every day.
Can we have Quadratic Captchas please? Or at least some pattern recog. Captchas?
Plus, my cognitive abilities, let me assure you, far out-strip yours. I'll assume my real world experice does too.
Feel free to follow the leader.
I'll blaze a new trail, thank you very much.
ori
Yeah we can see your trail.....from the back door to the outhouse.
I fart in your specific direction.
ori
Our Regional Idiot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJXem4AgxZ4
Dude, das rayciss.
Das corny, dawg.
ori
was contemplating "making vote count" by writing in rp
maybe somebody could remind me about rb's main contributor being on the bildersteer committee
thanks in advance
Yes exactly. Ron Paul is a proponent of the non-aggression principle.
Doesn't mean he can't kick ass if he needs to defend himself.
AldousHuxley,
You may be correct with your first suggested action, but "we" should deal only with our own problems and sources thereof.
"WE" = Americans
largest single IMPORT of America is ....oil
no more oil, no more intervention or even temptation to bother middle east.
wars "WE" initiate, is transparent to all except americans. That's why osams hit world trade center not Israel.
that's best for peace. good for americans, good for arabs, bad for bush, bad for saudi princes.
"--- largest single IMPORT of America is ....oil ...."
Uh, the US Census Bureau puts oil & gas at number 2 ($280B in 2011) behind Computer & Electronic products ($343B), but I guess we can cut you some slack so you can further develop the investment theme.
and in 2011 the largest single EXPORT of AA-merika was....wait for it...FUEL. ur such a stupendous sack of buttholes that it is piteous. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/02/us-expor...
Mr Huxley, did anyone ever tell you that you are a douche?
edit: removed because my post didn't show up where I expected
Lets make it clear... Ron Paul is NOT, and never has been, a mason or freemason... http://www.ronpaul.com/misc/ron-paul-not-a-freemason/
DoChenRollingBearing
Dude, I thought I was the only one here reading Counterpunch.
Counterpunch, Dissident Voice, Exiled and Paul Craig Roberts, plus Ted Rall toons, balance out all the other shit I have to wade through daily for a glimmer of "truth".
Hi Gully, I read some of it, but not very much! Paul Craig Roberts spreads truths. "Peace and Balance" as our Tai Chi instructor says...
Alas, it is harder to find a bit of truth rather than some peace and balance.
North korea is a bizarre place, the cities (okay mainly just Pyongyang) are faily modern, if rather second/third-world, while the countryside literally never left the 19th century. The whole place is just surreal, like a socialist-realist utopian nightmare.
Uuuhh, that was Austin.
government is what super wealthy use to preserve their status in the social order.
looking for government for help is like asking your boss's boss to get you a promotion.
you may get it and stand equal to your old boss, but will never get a position above boss's boss.
Where is Michael? Did he fall off the planet after 9/18?
He pretty much admitted he was leaving soon.
Thu, 08/30/2012 - 14:19
"I'm planning on going away for good soon, just had to tip the balance of the left right paradigm over, job almost done.
Paul Delegates should Dance out of RNC to Romney version of America the Beautiful
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?388149-Paul-Delegates-should-Dance-out-of-RNC-to-Romney-version-of-America-the-Beautiful"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/luxury-yacht-down-what-happens-when-central-craning-goes-horribly-wrong#comment-2750148
ruffled too many feathers
revealed too many truths
upset the status quo too often
Ron Paul is being kicked out....
Just like when Alan Grayson spoke against Wall St. bailouts
Just like when Russ Feingold voted against Patriot Act and sponsored acts putting limits to political fundraises.
Just like when Dennis Kucinich confronted Obama about Healthcare bill does nothing to lower costs by introducing state alternatives to insurance.
I'm not saying elections are rigged, but they are controlled by defunding certain candidates.
Funny how politician's best moments are their last years in the office. They can actually do what they wanted to do because they don't have to worry abotu getting re-elected and elections are all about the money.
"I'm not saying elections are rigged,"
I am saying Elections are rigged.
www.blackboxvoting.org
Thanks for answering. I always saw his pelosi jokerface everyday, especially on the Paul threads, and then, poof, he was gone! I did not always agree with him but I always enjoyed the posts.
Same thing with AldousHuxley. Hey, Dude!
sadmamapatriot:
" Where is Michael? Did he fall off the planet after 9/18? "
Slewie chewed him a NEW ONE:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/luxury-yacht-down-what-happens-when-centra...
Good one slewie!
LOL! What a bunch of characters!
its all the matrix, even Ron Paul. interesting article i came across the other day.... "how money power controls the libertarian movement":
http://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/how-money-power-controls-the-libertarian-movement-in-the-21st-century/
the banker cabal buys or coopts anything group or movement could threaten its control.
That's because the people in charge are not these clowns. These presidential clowns come and say "Yes Sir," to the real boss and leave after four to eight years, get their pension and keep their mouth shut. The Real Boss stay forever. Get used to it sheeple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMjGClS0ztc
Mr Smith Goes To Washington 1939it was true in 1939, it is true today....
the young, lanky country boy is about to meet the old crotchety streetwise veteran....and they are of the same party.
It's all the matrix, even john39. So where does that leave you?
if you think you can change the system through voting, keep dreaming. there are no real alternatives that are not coopted into the system. change will happen from outside the system, or not at all.
I didn't say that one could change the system through voting.
then in response to your first post, it leaves exactly where i was before.
Yep, you're still right there in a matrix of your own design.
A DO loop of glitches.
Adieu, loop of glitches.
Here's something a LOT of people can do THIS Presdiential Election to challenge the Lesser of Two Evils, Two Parties No Choice system we have today.
Intelligent Conservatives in solidly Blue States should vote for Gary Johnson of the Liberatarian Party. (If you vote for Romney and you live in NY, you're completely wasting your vote)
Intelligent Progressives in solidly Red States should vote for Jill Stein of the Green Party. (If you vote for Obama and you live in Oklahoma, you're completely wasting your vote)
Spread the word!
Every organized movement is easily infiltrated and subverted. The solution is for each person to creatively opt-out and reinvent their own private world. As we move to second or third world status and the State moves closer to totalitarianism, it's ability to enforce the laws it creates diminishes. When the dollar goes, so go the ways and means. This will be the end of a long era, the era of fractional reserve banking, and the dawn of a better age.
This ZH article was auto generated by the matrix.
That Daily Knell article link was posted last night and now a direct marketing term from it is in this ZH article.
"Hard money" Plus the Ron Paul/Jim Rodgers connection.
Whoop, there it is.
So now everybody needs to read the DK article, then come back and comment.
Prove it wrong. If such a thing can be done.
Would make for the best commentary. Unlike all the other static.
it's the weekend, let's get the thread up 'n' running. . .
guaranteed to up the comment counts, page hits, etc.
^^
perfect. thanks.
might just short-circuit the indirection and write in "Peter Andreas Thiel (German: [?pe?t?? an?d?eas ti?l]), born October 11, 1967, a German-born American entrepreneur" (wikipedia)
as a natural born citizen. he's constitutionally qualified to hold the office.
Heads are asploding in here.
Hard drive heads that is.....as I don't believe many of the comments get typed by humans.
Or the articles "written" by them.
Lulz.
Lulz indeed.
With all th eshit being smeared on this thread, sure looks like something ass-ploded.
Keep the flame burning KKTipton.
ori
I love how "derp teh bots are postings" comes out when the fight is being lost. It's straight out the FUD manual.
cash for gold-------------> oligarch
fort knox------------------> oligarch
Lybias gold---------------> oligarch
Gordon Brown's "Gold Sale" ---> oligarch
central banks gold vaults----------> oligarch
GLD----------------------------> oligarch
oligarch's gold hoard= power over all(power to print fiat and force austerity on debt serfs)
why don't you divorce your recently handicapped wife and marry a daughter of bootlegger like Arnold or McCain to join the oligarchy?
devil doesn't accept cash....only your soul.
Jim Rogers: 'Nobel Peace Prize To Europe Is A Bad Joke'
He said it best imo!
We should sponsor our national monuments to raise revenue:
The Goldman Sachs Grand Canyon
The JP Morgan Statue of Liberty
I suggested a couple of weeks back that they put both their logos on the Capitol building. The USA - brought to you by GS and JPM - do you know where your money went?
Sorry, the Vatican won't let them do that.
Listen red arrow bots...
Just like Charlie Sheen signs the FRONT of all his checks, and not the back...
The Vatican got their fresco on the INSIDE of the Capitol building, not the outside.
Look up what the fresco means oh ye of small minds.
$100 Million will get the 42nd Street Library in New York City to be named for you
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/arts/design/11expa.html?_r=0
Stephen A. Schwarzman Building
Since the idiot some call President just dedicated a new National Monument to everyone's favorite union activist "Cessar Chavez" a few days ago I give you:
Green Giant Cesar Chavez National Monument. Where Ho Ho Ho takes on a whole new meaning.
Sell all the federal lands and start buying out social security recipients.
Nice list TIS. Check this out. Ron Paul completely funking spanks Mitt Romney, then turns around and spanks him some more. All while the cameras are rolling.
Ron Paul Torches Mitt Romney On Afghanistan: "I'm The Commander In Chief! I Tell The Generals What To Do! Not The Other Way Around, Mitt!'Where was THIS LIST, during the last two debates???? I would have loved the moderators to read this list and ask each candidate, if they agree or disagree???
oh but the media is in the bag right, what bag you fucking idiots, ITS THE SAME PARTY!!!! Your agueing about the color of the fucking sky at sunset, its orange, no its yellow, no its purple, no its red!!!!
1) Most of the Uber cool Goldman Sachs execs Donate to Obama
2) Bailed out firms doled out loans to poor americans as affirmative action housing was forced down their throat
3) Truman, Kennedy, LBJohnson and Clinton all started Wars/escalated conflicts in Korea,SEAsia, Bosnia
4) Pandering to extremists who wish to exterminate minorities and reestablish theocratic chaos is no different from pandering to dictators who promise to deal with the extremists
5) America is Republic first - Democracy next
6) Fiat currency money is just s SQL database number - if you think that those numbers represent true wealth you are posting on the wrong site
7) Its the democrats who are playing Vote-bank politics with elections being made based on race, religion, sex etc rather than real issues - this votebank politics has been mastered in populous democracies in Asia
You are wrong.
Here is the campaign spending.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2012/10/201210995526117912.html
And Bush started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the parties are the same.
5.1 Pass law that succeeds in removing your constitutional right to due process at the whim of the president. Your most basic right to freedom is now at the mercy of the president (who btw also can legally have you killed without due processs). Thanks to the NDAA passed by 93% of the senate 44 "republicans" and 48 "democrats". If you think republicans care more about your constitutional rights check the house voting record on NDAA. This is not an Obama law. It is a republicrat law.
If only someone would be honest about the "spending cuts"...
net-net we're talking about a 2012 $3.8T US Federal budget will be cut to... $3.8T in '13??? The smoke and mirrors game of not growing spending as planned, but no actual cutbacks. No cutback in spending, only not a growth in spending as was plannned??? The reason for the "cuts" is due to the automatic growth of spending in all the entitlement programs opted out of the "spending cuts". So, the same $3.8T won't buy what it did in '12 so all the "radical spending cuts" of $9B a month (offset by $85B in Fed MBS/UST monthly purchases) come in defense and discretionary.
And then in '14 the "savings" is a less than planned growth of spending to $3.9T???
This austerity will destroy us...the HORROR!!!
There will never be meaningful self-imposed cuts. The problem is and has always been the takers, parasites. Ticks don't practice self-denial, it's not in their nature. Got salt?
The only difference between constipation and diarrhea is degree. Ultimately, the waste matter comes down the very same tract.
stocktivity
Gee willikers, Mr.Nader said it first.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/30/ralph-nad...
There's a reason Kennedy and so many other observers were left with this impression. Again and again throughout the campaign, Nader implied that he thought Bush and Gore equally objectionable. "It doesn't matter who is in the White House, Gore or Bush, for the vast majority of government departments and agencies," Nader said in a news conference in September 2000.
"The only difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush is the velocity with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door," he told supporters in California a month later.
"It's a Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dum vote," Nader said in Philadelphia four days before the election, repeating a favorite refrain of his. "Both parties are selling our government to big business paymasters. ...That's a pretty serious similarity."
Nader also failed to challenge Sam Donaldson on ABC's This Week when Donaldson said, "You don't think it matters. You've said it doesn't matter to you who is the president of the United States, Bush or Gore."
Nader replied, "Because it's the permanent corporate government that's running the show here ... you can see they're morphing more and more on more and more issues into one corporate party."
Ron Paul and his son are full of shit, when they were needed they were either blackmailed or threatened either way they capitulated.
ross perot backed off, after his daughter was threatened.