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German Self-Immolates In Front Of Reichstag

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When the topic of public suicides in Europe comes to mind, the natural instinct in the past several years has been to immediately think Greece, which has not only seen its suicide rate explode due to the never-ending economic depression, but witnessed a variety of activists take their lives in hopes, so far unmet, of enacting some form of political and social upheaval. Which is why it comes as a major surprise that the latest public self-immolation just took place not in Syntagma Square but in front of the German Reichstag.

From DPA via the Berliner Kurier:

Hundreds of tourists and Berliners on Saturday became eyewitnesses to a spectacular suicide in front of the Reichstag building.


A 32-year-old Berliner stabbed himself in the chest according to police at noon at the main entrance of the Reichstag. He then doused himself with a flammable liquid and set fire to himself. Passersby alerted the police and rescue workers. They tried in vain to resuscitate the man. He succumbed to his injuries on site yet.

Naturally the last thing Germany needs is a political suicide at a time when Angela Merkel is being booed not only in Athens but in Stuttgart, which is why the immedaite explanation was one of "personal reasons."

A political motive of his act precluded the police. In the 32-year-old a suicide note was found. The reason for the suicide lies in the personal area, it said.


Shortly before the time of the crime around 500 supporters of wind energy lobby between the Chancellery and the Reichstag building had been demonstrating.

A suicide in front of the political symbol of the nation, one which involves self-immolation, for personal reasons? Interesting. Hopefully other Germans don't get any ideas and start expressing their terminal heartbreak by burning down not only themselves in the immediate vicinity of the Reichstag but the proximal building too: because the last thing the Reichstag needs is to burn down. Again. For personal reasons or otherwise.

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Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:45 | 2885348 The big unzip
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He couldnt taking hearing Merkel speak one more time.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:03 | 2885384 Gully Foyle
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Come on people here is an example to follow.

First you all were scared shitless of the Detroit challenge, despite the larger than life internet balls where your brains should have been.

Now you have a chance to redeem yourselves.

I'm watching the news. We all, well all remaining, are.

Where a Zero Hedge T shirt. Or fuck just hang some paper with ZH around your neck.

Lead by exmaple BITCHES, lead by example!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:30 | 2885435 SafelyGraze
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You jest?  Pathetic.  Although Zero Hedge is second to none when it comes to a fringe blog (when reporting on finance, never mind economics) the readership has turned into Grade "A" zealots.

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Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:40 | 2885534 Zero Govt
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I'm a zealot for Freedom. No f'n compromises and no half-arsed, half-baked excuses of a system. 

Why? Because nothing else works.

Let's hear it for zealotry, there's a time and a place for everything, especially Freedom



Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:06 | 2885676 Dalago
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Hahaha fringe blog?  hahah  ZH broke the LIBOR scandal.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 21:50 | 2885975 Vendetta
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fringe relative to MSM, mainstream to reality.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 23:28 | 2886094 SafelyGraze
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see the "krugman" posting down below

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 00:28 | 2886145 TruthInSunshine
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I go OT when it's pretty important, which I hope isn't too often, but Jim Rickards is claiming LIBORgate is on the cusp of bringing down the global banking system (I've never, ever heard of Rickards making wild claims or engaging in hyperbole before, he's not some lunatic fringe 'type,' and he's actually well-credentialed). I don't know if he's correct or not, but there have been some very bizarre & momentous meetings and scrambling by and of the IMF and other entities lately, as a result of some allegedly ominous alarm bells being sounded about financial systemic risk the world over:

Saturday, October 13, 2012

LIBOR Could Destroy the Banking System
"Investment banker and Wall Street insider James Rickards says the Libor rate rigging scandal "is the greatest fraud and greatest potential liability in history." He thinks rate rigging banks could be on the hook for "$2.5 trillion," and "The potential damages could destroy the banking system."


Sun, 10/14/2012 - 01:55 | 2886229 Bananamerican
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Sun, 10/14/2012 - 02:09 | 2886237 Cosimo de Medici
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This implies liability, as in getting sued.  Getting sued requires and free and independent judiciary, not susceptible to being influenced "for the greater good".

One real problem that doesn't get much mention is that virtually everything in the financial world is priced off of the "risk free rate", which had been USTs.  Bill Sharpe and everything that followed, including swaps and other derivatives, rests on it.  This is now in a state of flux, and may be replaced by some basket of instruments, which will throw everyone's book sideways, change capital requirements, and generally mess up the not so nice and clean world the apparatchiks of finance have created.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:40 | 2885535 williambanzai7
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Get rid of the ridiculous copyright notice...just sayin

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:14 | 2885689 Pure Evil
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With all due respect WB7, if you don't believe in copyrights, then why do you sign all your work with WilliamBanazai7?

Is it cause you don't want any plagiarists to use your artwork without acknowledging your efforts or do you just like seeing your name in print?

Just sayin'.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:41 | 2885730 q99x2
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Copyright is only practical for corporations these days. For individuals it serves no practical purpose except to let the world know you need to see a psychiatrist. But lots of people still do not know about copyrights and patents. They are good for corporations and not so good for individuals. Quite a bit different than a hundred years ago.

Also as soon as whatever it is that you write is written it is automatically copyrighted so the notice is not necessary.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 13:29 | 2887785 Totentänzerlied
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Only if you publish it, and without the notice it is unenforceable at court.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 06:35 | 2886629 OldPhart
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I actually encouraged Banzai7 to sign his art.  I frequently share it and don't want others to think I'm that fukin' talented.  I can't even paint a wall, and my humor mirrors my hemmeroids. 

Don't be such a cynical dick to people (perfectly acceptable for corporations and the goernment).  He puts his name on them because he MADE them.  He gets the credit or the blame.

Geebus, there's so many douchebags these days.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 09:57 | 2887090 GMadScientist
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Some people are less worried about theft than they are about proudly standing by their work.

You're not evil. You're just wrong.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:35 | 2885724 SafelyGraze
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see below

someone (starts with a k, ends with a rugman) is infringing on it

his post got pre-crimed

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 07:21 | 2886653 awakening
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Fair use exemptions may apply for commentary/discussion (unless he is being paid cash for comment where it may be considered infringement for commercial use).

I am not a lawyer, this post is not legal advice.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 20:45 | 2888942 Captain Kink
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Tort Reform We Can Believe In!

Romney/Ryan 2012!!!!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:42 | 2885541 chumbawamba
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At the risk of someone in the depths of despair taking me seriously*, I'd like to see one of these mother fuckers blow themselves the fuck up.  Self-immolation is kind of over-used as a self-expressionary form of attention getting.  They gotta take it to the next level, Palestinian style.

* If you do, you got to make sure the charge is powerful enough to eviscerate you or literally knock your head off your body, but not so much that it takes out nearby people, as you want to make sure you die but not kill any innocents through collateral damage.  Please keep a safe distance and make sure you leave a note in advance somewhere other than on your body or else otherwise it'll be mistaken as a terrorist attack.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:16 | 2885691 Debt-Penitent
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Hmm, responding German Police, standing by with drawn weapons..."In case someone wants to do something dangerous...".

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 22:44 | 2886044 merizobeach
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Your detailed instructions gave me the image of the 'activist' strapping the bomb to his chest but wearing it under a kevlar vest.  Or maybe inside full body armor.  Pop!  Perhaps we need Scotty's transparent aluminum.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 01:39 | 2886222 Arthur Borges
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While in that region, several Israelis have self-immolated recently, with Haaretz specifying that austerity measures were the motive. These torchings didn't get much MSM coverage outside the country, though.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 21:28 | 2888999 Captain Kink
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You may be Chumbawumba, but you ARE a fucking idiot.

You don't really want to see that.  


*If You Do Really Want To See This, I apologize, and you are an insane asshole.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:23 | 2885701 colt45
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Can't say it better than this.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 09:26 | 2887049 MillionDollarBoner_
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Don't be so insulting.

We are not a "fringe blog".

We are a tin foil hat wearing club ;o)

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 13:31 | 2887787 SWIFT 760
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You jest?  Pathetic.  Although Zero Hedge is second to none when it comes to a fringe blog (when reporting on finance, never mind economics) the readership has turned into Grade "A" zealots.

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What you gonna do when they come for you...bad boys bad boys, what you gonna do?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:38 | 2885533 live free
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Hey fuckwad...  stop with this bullshit.  I know you feel like everyone needs a wake up call, but holy shit

I lived in Haiti for several years and have been back multiple times.  Only a moron would "wish" to try and live in the situation.  If you can actually imagine what it's like and prepare that way, then fine, but to make wishes to live in that situation when you don't have too is idiotic. 

Prepare to live in the bullshit, but don't wish for it, moron.



Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:42 | 2885543 max2205
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Sounds like a Chicago suicide. Stabbed with his left hand and then poured gas on himself and then lit the flame and then didn't move till he died. Ok sure

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 23:36 | 2886097 jonjon831983
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Actually, now that you mention it... sounds like that UK banker who suicided by stabbing himself multiple times in his car.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:15 | 2885597 JohnG
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"Come on people here is an example to follow."


You first.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 20:50 | 2888950 Captain Kink
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don't even respond to this crap.  Some people don't have any idea of what is at stake.  I got $100 says he (gf) doesn't have kids.... and probably no woman.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 20:52 | 2885910 Go Tribe
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You want ZH's to self-immolate? Better for the politicians to do that, especially those on the left.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 09:59 | 2887093 GMadScientist
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Because a world run by Dim Jemint and Lou Gohmert would be just peachy...for anencephalic troglodytes...


Sun, 10/14/2012 - 08:32 | 2886688 Bogdog
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I keep waiting for "The Stars My Destination" to made into a movie.

Still waiting......

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:31 | 2885430 SafelyGraze
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Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:44 | 2885454 waylon153
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Shortly before the time of the crime around 500 supporters of wind energy.....


Obviously this is a translation error, right?  <sarc>

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:47 | 2885553 A Nanny Moose
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The law believes its long arm knows no bounds.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:20 | 2885696 Pure Evil
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In fact the TSA has plans to go where only your Proctologist, hampsters, and homos have gone before.

Cavity Search

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:48 | 2885356 FranSix
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Crispy critters, bitchez!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:57 | 2885374 FL_Conservative
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Some bankster bbq, perhaps?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:10 | 2885389 Dr Paul Krugman
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You jest?  Pathetic.  Although Zero Hedge is second to none when it comes to a fringe blog (when reporting on finance, never mind economics) the readership has turned into Grade "A" zealots.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:13 | 2885408 resurger
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And you are a class "A" douche!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:46 | 2885549 chumbawamba
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He's just mad because none of his economic treatises ever makes it to the hallowed halls of ZH.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:36 | 2885725 SafelyGraze
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looks like he's a copyright violator

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:31 | 2885438 caimen garou
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hey look someone let the monkey out of his cage! back you beast back I say!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:55 | 2885467 malikai
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"Let them eat paper"

Who jests?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:48 | 2885357 flyonmywall
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The Arabs do it better.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:49 | 2885358 debtor of last ...
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Bankers Kristallnacht in 3 2 1 ...

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:51 | 2885360 rustymason
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History repeats.  Get the banksters this time.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 20:55 | 2888961 Captain Kink
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What does that mean?  Serously.  I don't get who it is you mean that needs to be "got".  Killed?  Who?  Dimon?  Blankfein?  The mortgage officer?  The Tellers? Everyone in between?  Grow the F up and/or get some therapy.  

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:51 | 2885361 news printer
Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:52 | 2885362 LULZBank
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Nopes, sorry cant happen in Europe esp in advanced western Europe.

Must be some immigrant or something.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:52 | 2885363 Pairadimes
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Did that Nobel Peace Prize come with a fire extinguisher?

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 10:05 | 2887105 andrewp111
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Fire Extinguishers are useless in a burning building with no exits. If the fire does not kill you, the gases will.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:53 | 2885365 AnAnonymous
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As 'americans' say, a personal tragedy. Usual wording to depict this move when it happens in 'american' nations.

Put the same move in some arabic countries, Tibet, and suddenly, it all becomes a political statement.

Welcome to the 'american' world.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:41 | 2885448 bank guy in Brussels
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What these poor people killing themselves do not realise, is that the suicides that become 'big' in the media, are that way because they were media-managed into being that way.

The Tunisian suicide became big with the CIA, the Muslim Brotherhood and other large temporarily allied forces making a gigantic campaign via Facebook and Twitter, because it suited them.

Meanwhile, the guy who set himself on fire and died in front of a US courthouse a few months back, or Joe Stack, who flew his small plane into a US government office building, 11-September-style, or these recent suicides in Europe or elsewhere in the world ... their stories are getting marginalised and buried along with the victim's own funeral

Lacking a pre-packaged 'social media' or similar campaign, people die with few remembering them for very long

Four decades ago, the radical black American singer-poet Gil Scott-Heron told us that when the real Revolution comes,

« The Revolution Will Not Be Televised »


Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:57 | 2885472 Schmuck Raker
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AnA, I sometimes find your Chinajisms a little confucing....

Do you mean to say, "Americans, welcome to the real world."?


Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:53 | 2885366 squexx
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If only we could train members of the Satanic Tribe to do that! :)

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:55 | 2885367 alstry
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When money is simply debt and debt is now a world where few of us produce what we consume and we are all dependent on others' production for our can become very interesting when the world is bankrupt........

when life is essentially nothing more than each of us trying to milk each other in a bankrupt system, you know it's a

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:54 | 2885368 giggler123
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People with Latent inhibition go first, such is life.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:57 | 2885372 LULZBank
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A political motive of his act precluded the police. In the 32-year-old a suicide note was found. The reason for the suicide lies in the personal area, it said.

I like people who leave suicide notes behind to explain their actions. Europeans do it for "personal reasons," Arabs do it "taking full responsibility and doing it for the religion," Chinese do it for "freedom from the opressive govt" etc..

Life is so simple when you are MSM.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:41 | 2885449 SafelyGraze
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the pre-crime police will have to take out any prospective suicidists within sight of any government building.

for your own security, please continue right-thinking, friend.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:01 | 2885570 css1971
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Almost like people are just things to be used for political ends.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 14:59 | 2885377 walcott
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any live video feed, or a dead video feed on this?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:07 | 2885392 NoTTD
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Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:01 | 2885380 valkir
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Reichstag is not only German national simbol.Fake burning it,Hitler came to power,acusing for that bulgarian George Dimitrov.Tyler/aka Dani Ivandjiiski/az sam gord che sam balgarin.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:01 | 2885383 Cursive
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Sad.  May he rest in peace.  We're pretty early in this new millenium TPTB financial repression, just think what it will be like in another 3 to 5 years.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:07 | 2885393 Dr Paul Krugman
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Plain and simple:

Austerity doesn't work.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:18 | 2885413 Dr. Engali
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No, the transferring of wealth from one country to another is what doesn't work. When a strong economy like Germany takes on the liabilities of the weaker economies, everybody gets a little poorer each day.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:33 | 2885442 LetThemEatRand
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People keep saying this, yet the wealthy keep getting wealthier.  A cynic would think it was intentional and has nothing to do with "transerring of wealth from one country to another."  More like transfering of wealth from several countries to a few individuals.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 23:50 | 2886114 zhandax
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Plain and simple: Paul Krugman doesn't work.  In either usage of the word.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 21:03 | 2888967 Captain Kink
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Peterfy's commercial brings this home beautifully.    I will open an account with IB as a result.  Borrow a cool Mill at 1.3% with 200k in your account. Lever up for the big show, boys!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:17 | 2885416 LongSoupLine
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what fucking austerity are you speaking of?  They talk about it, yet don't implement it.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:52 | 2885464 bank guy in Brussels
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It's the more important kind of 'austerity' - i.e., savage cuts to small pensions or minimal social benefits needed for poor and working class people to meet their daily needs, with the money transferred to banksters

It's not the 'technical' Tyler Durden austerity - i.e., smaller government or overall debt loads, given that overall debt is increased to pay the banksters, as well as transferring incomes from the poor to the rich

Am actually surprised ZeroHedge is insisting on the 'specialist' definition of austerity as overall de-leveraging, instead of the popular, human use of the word 'austerity' to denote what is spilling blood in the streets - It's a bit deceptive - We should defer to language that common people are using to describe what is murdering them

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2887824 Totentänzerlied
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Show me this savage austerity in the welfare capital of the world, Europe. I'm waiting. The sooner the real austerity begins, the sooner the plebs get real angry and the socialist people's revolution of Europe as prophesied by Marx can begin, only a century late. And the sooner that happens, the sooner Euro-peons get to see firsthand just precisely and exactly how and why they were and are wrong - and have been for the past ~2000 years. If you're a fan of the genocidal French Revolution, you're gonna love this.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:23 | 2885425 resurger
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"Austerity doesn't work"

Albert Einstein is second to you! Thanks for telling us what we know douche!

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:38 | 2885445 Dr. Engali
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Even the real Paul Krugman , as off base as he is on economic matters,is smart enough to know that Germany isn't implementing any austerity measures. So move along troll.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:54 | 2885462 Dr Paul Krugman
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Yes, the Bank Heads (Jens Weidmann/Axel Weber) are always telling the State to use easy monetary policy instead of maintaining tight controls.

-With Sarcasm

Are you on any circuit?  Do you debate European economists?  No, you don't.  I do.  I am in the middle of the fight to rectify the economies of the world and scoundrels like you try and make up stories that bankers and economists who want to strangle what hope we have left are not doing so.  Germany has left Europe for dead.  Why do you think Greeks met Merkle with riots? 

Please, excuse me and get out of my way.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:15 | 2885470 Dr. Engali
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You're almost as funny as MillionDollarBonus, If I didn't know better I'd swear you were one in the same. Nice attempt at sidestepping the charge.
Here is a defenition for you:


An official action taken by a government in order to reduce the amount of money that it spends or the amount that people spend.

Again I say... Where is the German government implementing austerity? I'll answer that for you.. They aren't. The real Paul Krugman would know that.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:45 | 2885547 The Shootist
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I'm gonna go drop a Krug off in the pot.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:50 | 2885556 Zero Govt
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Dr Krugman  -  economists and bankers are to saving the economy what Hitler was to childcare in Poland and Russia

Bernanke, King and Draghi claim they want a "return to normalacy" but how can you throwing money at losers, and rotten ones at that. 

It's good money after bad, their 'cures' are worse than the disease. If you're in a (debt) hole stop digging should shut the fuk up and retire before you get a pithfork up your worthless meddling arse

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:12 | 2885687 DaveyJones
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"Germany has left Europe for dead" 

Yes, it's all Germany's fault. How exactly does that work?

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 21:31 | 2888985 Captain Kink
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Germany should exit the EU .  (Read "The Tragedy of the Euro")


GERexit.  They will not go Joint-and-Several with the likes of the club med. Discrete amounts have been doable and done to create greater separation in the end game.  There will be no fighting war in Europe.  It is purely economic.  We should take note.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 23:11 | 2885764 Jam Akin
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C'mon y'all, most of us don't have to deal with all of the confusing complex arcane academic minutia that Dr K here does. All of we lesser mortals cannot conceive of the magnotude of the burden such a load (of shit) imposes.

It's the responsible people of Germany who don't want to be raped to support their shiftless southern neighbors that are demanding what you're calling "austerity" you stupid asshole.

BTW still love the 'do Davey

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 06:51 | 2886645 OldPhart
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On the off-chance that you are the real Dr 'Economic Death' Krugman, there are people around you that know where you live, what you do, where you go, when you get home, how you spend your free time.

When the shit drops, I'm looking for each of them; then for you.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 01:38 | 2889244 honestann
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You don't debate, you lie.

It is you who should get out of our way, authoritarian scum.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:51 | 2885655 jackinrichmond
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maybe that's true, but you can't print your way to prosperity either.

has there ever been an example in history where a government was able to fix a solvency issue with liquidity ?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 21:20 | 2885936 venturen
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So you print more? Can you point out the successes in history where they printed there way out?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:06 | 2885391 NoTTD
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If there is one thing history has shown us it is that once Germans begin burning things it is hard to make them stop.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:22 | 2885421 shovelhead
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Must have been one sauerkraut...

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:22 | 2885423 Azannoth
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Such a terrible waste ;( if you are going to sacrifice your life make it count, like Anders Breivik did(yes I know he killed mostly bystanders) but his act will not be forgotten or easily dismissed as being for "personal reasons"

Self immolation might be effective in a dictatorship where 90% of people are just waiting to start a Revolution but is ineffective in a "democracy" where 90% of the people think/or want to think that they are anything more than cattle to the rulers.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 19:25 | 2885786 AUD
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Anders Breivik didn't sacrifice his life. The dumb bastard blew away a bunch of Norwegian teenagers, few of whom were even immigrants. The police certainly should have gunned him down though.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:26 | 2885429 zilverreiger
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These german newsitems tonight are lightly suggestive

Desperates burn themselves all the time, and stuttgart was in part about building project riots from 2010

Theres a slight awakening to EU matters too though in germany, since the past months, since the stalling economy.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 01:37 | 2889242 honestann
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This is interesting, and certainly supports our impressions that mainstream medias are utterly captured by the predators-that-be in every country.

What I mean is this.  Normal Germans are prevented from knowing what's going on in Germany.  Normal Americans are prevented from knowing what's going on in America.  And so forth.  Thus every normal human being is prevented from knowing what's going on where they live.  I expect Americans are more clueless than people in most parts of the world in this respect, partly because historically they had a mostly self-sufficient economy.

People certainly need to awake, though I still suspect they won't.  I also suspect it is already too late for them to do anything about it in most ways.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:27 | 2885431 g3h
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Like the Tunisia who started the Arab Spring?

Interesting to watch.  Even Fun you recall Bernanke started all the Arab Spring himself.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:33 | 2885440 Azannoth
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Don't get your hopes up even if it does make some people stop and think nothing violent will happen in Germany, people here are way too "up tight" to revolt against much of anything

when the government says "jump" they just ask "how high?" this will get scrubbed off off news-feeds by tomorrow morning anyway

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:28 | 2885434 littleguy
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3 Words : Nobel Peace Prize

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:33 | 2885441 Jam Akin
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When will the US experience its next Reichstag fire?

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 10:02 | 2887101 mvsjcl
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After we've run out of "Pearl Harbors."

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:39 | 2885447 PaperBear
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Babylon 5 - Are you willing...

1m “But you’re not just a dreamer, you’re a soldier. How far are you prepared to go ? How much are you prepared to risk ? How many people are you prepared to sacrifice for victory ? Are you willing to die friendless and alone, deserted by everyone ? Because that’s what may be required of you in the war that is to come ?”

1m50s “Enough. Your quarrel is with me. You sent to investigate me. Let him go. If you want to take someone then take me.”

2m25s “You would trade your life for his ? I thought you had a destiny ? Is that destiny not worth one life ?”

“If I fall, another will take my place, and another, and another.”

“But your great cause ?”

“This is my cause. Life. One life or a billion, it’s all the same.”

“Then you make the sacrifice willingly ?”


“No fame, no armies or banners or cities to celebrate your name ? You will die alone and unremarked and forgotten.”

“This body is only a shell. You cannot touch me. You cannot harm me. I’m not afraid.”

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:50 | 2885450 Inthemix96
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My sympathies go out to this young man and his family.

However, should the next potential person who plans on doing something similar could I please urge you not to do such an act.  While undoubtably brave, the best the thing you could do in a situation like this is try and take some of the PTB with you.  If you are intent on taking your life, at least take some of the bastards responsible for this mess with you.

The expenential force this would create is un-calcuable, you could infact raise the populations awareness to your self-less act and fire the collective immagination of a whole continent.

Please dont die in vain, you didnt cause this.

Once more, my heart is with this young man and his family.  A waste of life for the wastes of life and skin who implement conditions what cause young men to take such drastic actions as this.  Rest in peace mate.

Edit: exponential^^^


Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:32 | 2885519 Esso
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"If you are intent on taking your life, at least take some of the bastards responsible for this mess with you."

I couldn't agree more.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:00 | 2885567 Inthemix96
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I have spoke with a few mates and associates about this.  If we go down on a bomb of unpayable debt, some of the bastards who caused this go before we do.

Life is like a carousel, because what goes around, comes around.  Not everyone you meet is mystefied by the banksters bollocks.  I wish I could create money out of thin air, and stop young men like this lad in Germany from taking such terrible actions.

These fuckers who cause this are tumours on mankind.  They need eradicated just as you would a lump on your arm.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 21:31 | 2885950 buckethead
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I disagree. First, "some of TPTB" needs to be defined. When suggesting suicide/murder, you might want to be a bit more specific. 


Incidentally, you just advocated all actions you claim to despise when carried out by the "PTB". Arbitrary justice and use of deadly violence.


No, friend. As saddening as any suicide is, let alone one as horrific as this, please make it a single.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 01:27 | 2889238 honestann
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This is why people need to understand that humans come in two (or three) forms.  I call them "predators", "parasites" and "producers".  Humans have a long history of accepting the act of killing predators when they enter human settlements or interfere with humans and their productive activities (crops, animals, etc).  And [virtually] nobody has every advocated arresting and giving trials to predators when they wander into your property or home, much less start destroying your crops, animals or family.  And this has included human predators.

Well, the fact is, by their nature and actions, predators deserve no arrest and trial.  Once you know an animal is a predator (has or is acting like a predator), you are fully justified in capturing and/or killing the predator --- at your discretion.  No arrest, no reading their rights, no trial, just cages or bullets between their eyes.

What people need to understand is this.  Human predators are the most dangerous predators by far.  They have, in fact, taken control of every large fictitious entity on earth, every fictitious "government", every fictitious "central bank", every fictitious "large [connected] corporation", every influential "organization".  They are more dangerous than all the other predators on this planet by a factor of at least one trillion.

Good people (producers, not predators and destroyers) have ethics.  But predators have no ethics, they only have a modus-operandi, which is "get away with whatever you think you can".  This is why humans used to understand why predators don't deserve or warrant ethical constructs like "arrest", "trial", "punishment".  They are outside ethics --- by their own choice (and certainly so in the case of human predators), and thus the many admittedly important notions of ethics are entirely irrelevant and in fact greatly counterproductive.

To be sure, it is crucially important to make certain you correctly identify beings as predators before you take actions.  That's why you don't shoot at vague shadows you see on your property at night.  But once you know an animal is a pretator, you owe them no restraint.  They are what they are and you are free to treat them accordingly.  Far more people understood this and took these actions hundreds of years ago.  But now almost all humans are terminally brainwashed and have no freaking idea what's being done to them.

To be sure, you need to be smart.  To be sure, you need to make appropriate estimates as to what other predators might do if you deal with one of them.  To be sure, predators do tend to work in packs.  So be very, very careful.  But as far as ethics goes, once you are sure you are dealing with a predator, you are ethically unconstrained.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:42 | 2885451 Atomizer
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One less pension fund the broke European Union has to fulfill. Redistribute those new monies to pay off old nagging obligations. LOL



Sat, 10/13/2012 - 15:59 | 2885459 lolmao500
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Surely he's not German and he's a tourist or an immigrant... Germans don't have emotions to do something like this.

/I kid.

He did it because he wanted to start a revolt in Germany. His suicide note might be made up by the cops so it doesn't do that.

If the assassination of the federal bankster of Tunisia had started a revolt, this guy would have tried to do the same to the German federal bankster....

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:33 | 2885494 Yen Cross
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I wonder how many children Eg; the next generation saw that?  I really wonder how their guardians/parents, will explain it to them.

  I guess we will find out when they come of age, and start paying off the debts of previous generations.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:21 | 2885501 debtor of last ...
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Competition is battle within a foodchain of the same species. It's a rather stupid thing. Like hft's eating poor poor traders.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 16:54 | 2885562 Wakanda
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When was the last time fire and Reichstag appeared in the same headline?


Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:49 | 2885652 Old Europe Avan...
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The problem is that there is headline at all. In German media the event didn't happen.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 09:44 | 2887077 Azannoth
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It was merely a footnote on most news sites and conveniently will comments turned off

and today you can hardly find it anywhere anymore

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 01:12 | 2889231 honestann
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Yet another reason all predators and all mainstream media must end, one way or another.  The best way is probably to evade and abandom them, don't feed them, and let them starve to death.  Unfortunately, that requires understanding and cooperation from the vast majority of productive folks on earth... so this "best way" is very unlikely to happen.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:24 | 2885614 VonSalza
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Whatever the reasons RIP Anon

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:45 | 2885644 new guy
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"Austerity doesn't work!!"

What are you suggesting?

Are you saying that people should pay even MORE taxes.

Are you suggesting that private sector workers should continue to put their children to bed hungry so that public sector workers can continue to eat beef for dinner!

Explain to me why I should be forced to pay for you to have things I can't have. Explain how forcing people like you to stop stealing from people like me will be harmful to anyone but you?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 01:10 | 2889228 honestann
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Like so many terms, the term "austerity" has been thoroughly perverted by mainstream media and various apologists for the predators.

If "austerity" means "massively cutting back government expenses", then "austerity" is pure, unadulterated GOOD.

If "austerity" means "flooding elitist predator pockets with unearned wealth by empoverishing tens or hundreds of millions of honest folks who work and produce goods", then "austerity" is pure, unadulterated EVIL.

I have lived a frugal live... on purpose.  You could legitimately claim that I have intentionally imposed "austerity" upon myself.  And I have.  But I expect the benefits... the luxury to move when and where I want to move, the luxury to do the [non-paying] work I want to do, the luxury to achieve my own goals, the luxury to become largely self-sufficient.

To "not waste" by not living a life chasing after every popular fad is one form of "austerity", the kind of austerity that I am very, very, extremely glad I lived.  By saving and not accumulating debt, I am vastly more "free" than 99% of the people on this planet.  That is good.  Sensible austerity is good.  Expecting ZERO benefits (or jobs) from government is good... and smart.

But increasingly empoverishing people who work and produce... that is nasty, unethical, revolting and destructive in the extreme.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:48 | 2885649 Old Europe Avan...
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I salute the guy for this. Unfortunately my fellow country man will never know about this. It wasn't in Tagesschau (_the_ 8pm news show) and it is also not on any of the major news sites in the Internet. It just didn't happen. But don't worry, we have plenty of reporting on how great it is that the EU won the nobel peace price. sick.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 17:49 | 2885650 jonjon831983
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Gee.. Maybe it was anti-wind, not EU...

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:09 | 2885683 hadriansnightmare
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If this is war it's going to be a strange one if the soldiers on one side just all commit suicide.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 09:58 | 2887091 andrewp111
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Suicide Bombers already do this in the Middle East. They strap on bombs and blow themselves up in the midst of the enemy. It is a very effective way of waging war since each soldier can kill a hundred, and his side never has to worry about veteran care or pensions. This guy who simply burned up at the Reichstag was nothing more than a misfire.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:10 | 2885684 hadriansnightmare
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If this is war it's going to be a strange one if the soldiers on one side just all commit suicide.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:40 | 2885734 Lloyd_Xmas
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He probably did not need the flammable liquid given his outfit was made out of Euros.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 18:43 | 2885741 q99x2
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Patience is a virtue. He didn't have to jump the shark like that. He should have waited until next year when we all go together.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 19:19 | 2885777 Griffin
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A economic meltdown would be rather nasty in short term, but in the long term it might actually be a improvement.

The world is not going to end, its just going to change, like it has been doing for a very long time.


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 01:01 | 2889222 honestann
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He and a great many others probably would have waited... IF... they knew the end/resolution was only one year away.  The problem is, the example of Japan (and many others) shows that pain and agony can be extended and worsened for much, much, much longer than we tend to imagine before the end/resolution occurs.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 19:21 | 2885780 dogbreath
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Sat, 10/13/2012 - 20:34 | 2885878 grunk
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"Better to burn out than to fade away."

(Don't want to piss off the copyright lawyers.)

I'm guessing more will read about his death than will read about mine so my respects for him.

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 22:26 | 2886017 CitizenPete
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Fire and Ice

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice. 

Robert Frost


Sat, 10/13/2012 - 23:19 | 2886066 Banksters
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Any vid?

Sat, 10/13/2012 - 23:09 | 2886067 Banksters
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Note to future suicidees, take some banker filth, next time.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 00:50 | 2886186 robertocarlos
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It would be better to put them in jail for life. 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 08:43 | 2886687 toomanyfakecons...
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When a man burned himself to death on the steps of the local courthouse in NH, USA to avoid debtors prison (contempt for child support), it didn't even make the national news. When this happens in Germany or Tunisia, it's an international sensation.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 11:23 | 2887244 Olympia
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...the barbarians, who forced beautiful Europe to get down Zeus’“back” and made her a prostitute ...the unworthy Europeans, who in 1945 “took Europe down” from “Mount Olympus” and in 2012 relinquished “enslaved” Europe to the Phoenician loan sharks.

Germans are proved to be the easy solution to breach Europe’s door. Whoever wishes to “set foot” on Europe and demolish it, the only thing he has to do is to “fool” the Germans. For a second time in less than fifty years, Europe’s idiots become the victims of foreigners and they serve their interests at the expense of Europe...



The German traitors of Europe along with the Phoenicians from Asia may have forced Europe to get down from the "back” of the Greek “bull”, but it remains to be seen how they shall pull it through with the “bull”.



Sun, 10/14/2012 - 15:16 | 2888066 SWIFT 760
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What a terrible way to expire. Interesting to know what's written in suicide note. 

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 16:50 | 2888357 Pike Bishop
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Suicide is the most horrific of statements. It is of people to whom death is a welcome relief from the pain of living. In Greece it has been an abundance of men who ask a final forgiveness of their family because they could not provide for them. It is bitterly a permanent solution to what should be a temporary problem.

We have been fed swimming pools and absent tax collectors. Nations have overall outcomes. Yet, nations are made of men of different beliefs. There are many whose greatest honor is to work hard and provide. Take that from them and they are without reason for being.

Across millennia the act of self-immolation by fire has been an act of demonstration.

Within its archetypal metaphor is the implicit for whom it is intended, from the compelling "ignis surgit"....

...... Fire rises.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 00:55 | 2889217 honestann
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There is no way this poor fellow would do WHAT he did WHERE he did "because of personal reasons".  It was a protest against the predator-class or some portion of the predator-class, and the predators-DBA-government are hiding the truth.

Germans:  Leave the eurozone and leave the euro.  Now.  Otherwise you will leave them after a great deal more pain for everyone.  Stop being hard-working, pro-authoritarian sheeple!  Be honest, honorable, hard-working individuals.

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