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They Hate Us For Our Prisons

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There was a time when US schoolchildren, a few short years before they were loaded up with $60,000 a year in unrepayable federal debt (used mostly to purchase various iTrinkets) to pay for community college, were taught that all those people outside the continental US hate its residents "for our freedoms." It must then come as quite a shock for all these kids to learn that what they really meant is that "they hate us for our prisons."

From Max Raskin, Bloomberg:

The U.S. has the world’s highest incarceration rate, with Department of Justice data showing more than 2.2 million people are behind bars, equal to a city the size of Houston.


The CHART OF THE DAY shows that, with a rate of 730 people per 100,000, the U.S. jails a higher proportion of its citizens than any other country, according to data from the International Centre for Prison Studies, an independent research center associated with England’s University of Essex.


“The model is, if you build it they will come,” said Daniel D’Amico, a professor of economics at Loyola University New Orleans. “Because we have all these prisons and all of these other resources funneled into our criminal justice system, we have this ability to enforce things that would otherwise be unenforceable.”


“That includes the drug war, but it’s also including everything from the Martha Stewart types to immigration policies,” D’Amico said. “The scope of things that are now criminal in corporate law is exponentially higher than it was merely twenty years ago.”

Well, how about no longer "building it" then? But for that to happen two things would need to change: either a member of the ruling Wall Street financial oligarchy would finally have to be thrown in maximum "pound me in the ass" security prison (to quote Matt Taibbi), something which as has been patently demonstrated, can never happen in the US; or, prisons are no longer the equivalent of a fully inclusive, taxpayer funded room and board vacation, where a certain subsegment of society can rest indefinitely for the most meaningless of transgressions.

Since neither of these two events will occur, it is probably safe to replace the the bald eagle on the Great Seal with a photo of Alcatraz and be done with it.

h/t Carl


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Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:31 | 2892603 eftian
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USSA Bitchezz

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:39 | 2892610 AlaricBalth
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Where is Snake Plissken when we need him?
Snake Plissken: I shut down the third world, you win they lose. I shut down America, they win, you lose. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:33 | 2892778 francis_sawyer
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I thought he was dead...

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:05 | 2892869 AlaricBalth
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He gets that a lot.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:44 | 2892962 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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and taller

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:37 | 2892608 UnpatrioticHoarder
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Anyone else here find their tweets don't appear in followers' feeds?

My tweets in reply aren't seen by anyone.

Searching "All" for phrases and hashtags in my tweets returns nothing.

I follow @ZeroHedge, @Wikileaks and @lemetropole so I guess I had it coming to me.

And now I am told "Twitter is over capacity" with a fail whale picture. Is it just me?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:17 | 2892723 max2205
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Add no interest seniors on home detention who don't eat as well but then don't worry about dropping the soap, and we really lead the world

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:43 | 2892810 Lore
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"Twitter is over capacity"

Am I the only one who finds that amusing?  Like people who panic because they can't log into Facebook?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 01:24 | 2893198 UnpatrioticHoarder
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LOL try searching in "All" for a phrase in one of my recent tweets "Herald Sun duped" - no results. Now search "All" for a phrase from same period, any phrase eg "New front in the culture wars". Many results. My tweets are being excluded from search results. Why is that?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:33 | 2892611 sangell
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Our prisons are first rate it is our inmates that are the world's worst.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:48 | 2892816 toady
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I'll agree our prisons are first rate, hell, the 3 hots & cot, cable tv, free medical, dental, optical ... they sure as hell hate us for our prisons. Our prisoners live better than 90% of the worlds population!

Disagree on the prisoners. Just a bunch of dope smokin' drunks, with a handfull of hardasses.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:35 | 2892614 Bear
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The Mexico bar needs to incorporate at least 30% of the US bar since we are doing the bulk of their incarceration for them

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:47 | 2892640 sangell
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True, the US not only has to imprison the dregs of our society, we have to import large numbers of the dregs of the rest of the world. Bet we have an inmate from every member state of the UN in our prisons.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:36 | 2892615 oc
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Fuck it. I'm moving to Iceland.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:06 | 2892687 prains
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The Kiwi's must be growing some pretty magic weed to be number 5 right behind Mexico

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:36 | 2892618 New_Meat
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"(used mostly to purchase various iTrinkets)"

au contraire, meathead.

How 'bout SNAP, EBT, and fraudulent mortgages.


- Ned

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:39 | 2892624 Pseudo Anonym
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the list is incomplete.  i doubt russia imprisons fewer than iceland

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:24 | 2892690 prains
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it's only for the G 69 countries





although it's hard to hear anyone speak, it's always quite muffled

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:43 | 2892635 Zgangsta
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This seems like an awfully selective list.  Where's Russia?  China?  Singapore?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:04 | 2892679 Dr. Engali
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That makes it better..... "Sure we are bad but look at those other guys."

I think you miss the point.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:12 | 2892704 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Per capita. Also, China and Singapore are much keener on executions........

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 03:01 | 2893278 Seer
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They probably don't allow the BIG criminals to hide behind corporate masks, which... when corporations can be executed, THEN is when it could be considered them to be "persons."

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:59 | 2892995 SgtSchultz
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While this study is from 06 the per capita stats are probably still pretty close.  We are still number one with Russia being number two.  We have about seven times the number of prisoners per capita than the EU.


Tue, 10/16/2012 - 04:03 | 2893324 BeetleBailey
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Not members of the OECD for one thing.

Both Russia and China lag the US per capita as well, however.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:45 | 2892636 pods
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Well our prison made shit ain't gonna make itself!


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:26 | 2892756 a growing concern
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Somebody's gotta make license plates to replace the ones that went up in flames on Chevy Volts across America.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:24 | 2892912 AlaricBalth
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License plates? Not even close. Federal Prison Industries (UNICOR) had close to $1 billion in revenues last year. Inmates earn from US$0.23 per hour up to a maximum of US$1.15 per hour.

"UNICOR has 109 factories in federal prisons, producing about 175 different types of products and services, including clothing and textiles, electronics, fleet management and vehicular components, industrial products, office furniture, recycling activities; and services including data entry and encoding."

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 03:51 | 2893313 Cathartes Aura
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Dickensian workhouses. . .

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 09:09 | 2894000 pods
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Foxcon North America LLC.


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:26 | 2892759 prains
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everyone likes the guy who shows up to the party with a giant red dildo

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:47 | 2892639 DavosSherman
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“Our” fine country holds less than 5 percent of the world’s populous but a quarter (25 percent) of the world’s entire prison population.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:52 | 2892650 hedgehog9999
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and that does not even count the Corzines' and others within the bankers, government and executive criminal class!!!

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:00 | 2892674 sangell
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But we could easily imprison 2 or 3 times that and not get all the scum off the streets. You have to commit a major felony or multiple lesser one's before our courts finally lock you up. Last night a guy who had been arrested for 4 misdemeanors and 2 felonies so far this year was picked up again for robbing a guy on a scooter at knifepoint. He'll be back on the streets soon enough too because he didn't kill the guy.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:16 | 2892715 DavosSherman
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Who gives a fuck?

Did the scum of the streets kill 37,000 people in 2009?  No!  The banksers did.  In the Great Depression the suicide rate was 22 per 100,000 people, in the Second Great Depression it is 10 per 100,000 people.

Who the fuck caused it?  The scum of the streets or the banksters?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:55 | 2892836 sangell
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To be honest I'd rather have Jamie Dimon living next door (but I can't afford his neighborhood) than Trayvon Martin but then I'm not insane.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:15 | 2892890 DavosSherman
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Define "not".

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:21 | 2893030 riphowardkatz
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the victim cares. 


oooh the banksters. what an ignorant term. you sound like a 8 year old pointing fingers. 

your fellow citizens elected the presidetns, the congressman who put the laws in place. look in the mirror jackass, Americans caused this not banksters. They just happen to be smart enough to use the insanity to their advantage, dont hate the players hate the game.

also eat it. suicide is caused by the individual no one is to blame but the person. loser


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:53 | 2893086 DavosSherman
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Bullshit.  Suicides are worse in recessions and God aweful in depressions.  Also there are 2 laws in America, the elected can steal and inside trade, those that elect them can't.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 09:37 | 2894094 riphowardkatz
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we should put the cheating wife/husband on trial as well. isnt that shira law? she cheated on me and caused me to kill myself. or mabe since she is causing it I can kill her? makes no sense. man alive the ignorance displaying in these comments is astounding., 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:50 | 2892644 duncecap rack
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But no bankers amongst the incarcerated.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:02 | 2892859 cynicalskeptic
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Imagine what the rate would be if they actually prosecuted FINANCIAL crimes.....

wouldn't be enough room - even with all those newly built privately run prisons

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:50 | 2892645 hedgehog9999
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Penile enlargement reduces crimes!!!!!

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:50 | 2892646 urbanelf
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I feel safer.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:53 | 2892653 Wakanda
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Plenty of room for banksters, politicians, corporate hoes, and alphabet agency employees once the innocent are sprung.

The Second American Revolution, unfolding now in a neighborhood near U.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:58 | 2892665 booboo
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Two words: Jury Nullification
They can indict a ham sandwich with all Of their chicken shit laws but all it takes is one hold out to throw a wrench in their grand plan. Get on a jury and wreak havoc with a state attorneys future political career.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:08 | 2892867 cynicalskeptic
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Actually seeing this in the Bronx - but the elected prosecutor is teh one taking a stand against unwarranted arrests.  You had some jury nullification but now the DA is refusing to prosecute a lot of questionable cases - like 'trespassing' in housing projects where those arrested are residents or invited guests (NOT criminals).  He aloso pissed off a lot of cops by prosecuting them for ticket fixing.   About time IMO, the connected get off while the rest get screwed.   Know too many NYC cops who abused their position and were far from 'unbiased' in their enforcement of laws.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 20:59 | 2892668 venturen
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Sadly those other countries have extremly homogenous ethinicities. If you look at percent of certain races in pretty much is stereotypical. Look at african countries and you will horrific crime. Cultural some people accept more crime than others.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:02 | 2892677 The big unzip
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Death Penality for traffic violations,  that would cut down on the prison population!

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:13 | 2892707 ebailey5
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17-19% of all inmates have a mental health diagnosis.  Since the reason for their incarceration is often a product of anti-social behavior as a consequence of mental illness, you have a rationale for a significant driver of the base societal rate of locking people up.  Other countries (with lower rates of incarceration) manage this population differently--residential treatment facilities, day care centers or other alternatives to prison.  The actual percentage of criminally insane is a small minority of the locked up mental health population.  The US solution to treating mental illness by incarceration makes us look bad to the rest of the world and creates incredible barriers to effective care for the mentally ill in those locations.  This is not the whole reason for the incarceration rate being what it is--law and order judges and legislaters have a hand in the process too.  And most recently, the meth epidemic spiked the numbers (presently abating somewhat).  Editorially:  who is really being punished by the high incarceration rate?  Certainly the individuals--tragically in some cases but also the payor of first and last resort, the taxpayer.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:23 | 2892746 max2205
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SSI would skyrocket if they let those retards out.

Downarrow please, I am going for the record (395)

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:31 | 2892771 a growing concern
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Is that really the record?  Was that MDB in his early days, or RoboTarder? 

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:56 | 2892986 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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I got over a hundred one time when I made a comment about Obama and referenced his "cling to their bibles and guns" statement. I am amazed that /s tags are actually needed at times. Been around for two years and any look at my previous Obummer views would have left no doubt. I have voted you down.. good luck

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:48 | 2893082 Taint Boil
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I never down arrow but I'll help ya out just this one time.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 08:09 | 2893799 max2205
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Come on! Last year the R word was good for at least 100

Oh how times change

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 18:08 | 2896283 dugorama
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Bobby Rickey, you're either first or you're last

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:13 | 2892708 tony bonn
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prison is one of the most barbaric and corrupt form of punishment in existence - exceed only by torture, something practiced extensively by the armed forces and cia.....and these high rates in the usa is more proof of its backward barbarianism, and the fault is not all with the so-called criminals but with the infantile minds of the judges and people who advocate this is a tool of repression aand has no rehabilitative value...

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 07:50 | 2893753 Zadok
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The only constant I have found in any court, government office at any level, nongovernmental agency, or 'helpers' of the court is that they will find some way to justify their position (societies great need for their 'service') at the expense of the innocent. If we actually got rid of the problem their racket would have to morph. They never solve or resolve anything concretely, they do make sure they and you are constantly involved, charged $ at every step, and can never legally get free unless there is nothing left to steal.

The net outcome of that self serving approach is the innocence is ALWAYS abused and nefarious activity is never consequenced, for the simple reason that it would harm the profitability of the racket.

I have no exceptions to these experiences.

This seems to apply to any and all areas of law.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 14:05 | 2898544 Taint Boil
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+1, That was good.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:30 | 2892722 nick howdy
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This is where we can win it people...If we incarcerate most of the people who once worked jobs that were offshored, then we could utilize that labor to compete with China...

I have a great gulag archipelago scenario that will work out for everyone except for 90% of the populace

But still, even though immoral, my ideas should be considered because we have limited resources and although we don't offer any alternates to the current crisis, even though they do exist...I think we need to do what we can do with the information given to us by the authorities..

God, what BS...But whatever...The fucking MSM do it every day...with T.A. and a smile..

Of course there's Lauren Lyster where you get it all..Truth + TA....

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:23 | 2892745 Freebird
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All your freedoms belongs to us Bitchez

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:27 | 2892760 JLee2027
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As of 2008, an additional 5.1 MILLION people were on parole/probation. 1 in 45 adults needed "supervision". What a joke!


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:27 | 2892761 spinone
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So even though we imprison more people than any other country per capita, we haven't managed to jail one banker since 2008?  WTF!!!

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:28 | 2892763 dolph9
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I worked in a prison hospital as a resident.  God what a depressing place.  It was sad to see the guards (the vast majority of which were some of the most pathetic human specimens you could come across) lord it over the prisoners.  Some of whom were hardcore killers, but the majority of which were people who likely got caught up in events as teenagers and young adults and committed a minor drug crime or two, forever rendering them unemployable in Amerika.

Experiences like this convince me we are a sick, sick society.  Like many of you I speak based on experience, not based on paranoid whims.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:48 | 2892824 DaveyJones
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Prisons are amazing places but, believe it or not, the local jails can be much worse. And this was with a "healthy" economy. Working in the industry, I have watched the already borderline quality slip away almost daily. The worst is our state mental health hospital where, due to funds, they are starting to release violent unstable people that even the insiders confess to me "should not be released." As you witnessed, their stay at the hotel only made them worse. I'm sure you're familiar with the Stanford Prison Experiment:   

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 05:07 | 2893640 Parrotile
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Been there too - one year in a Category C Institution in the UK. The standard of healthcare was actually VERY good, and generally the inmates left in better physical shape than when they came in (apart from the occasional deaths from natural (and on a few occasions, "not-so natural") causes).

Whilst (at that time) the morale in the UK NHS was pretty good, the morale in the Prison Medical Centre was amazing - a real "Happy Family" attitude, which translated to better care for all.

The only "bad experience" during my stint was us getting snowed in over one weekend - and with no t.v., and limited Internet (early days) it was cards or the radio.

Must say the Prison Officers were all pretty good too, which may have contributed a lot to the overall feeling of safety within the establishment.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:30 | 2892769 Freebird
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Bankers are holy - you plebs are whitetrash or ghettoboys. Get with the program.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:40 | 2892801 DaveyJones
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they are a lot like priests, at least bad priests - screwing our children and all

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:46 | 2892815 Lincolns Mullet
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Follow the money.  There is big business in imprisoning people.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:53 | 2892831 DaveyJones
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nothing sums up the new prison industrial complex better than this story. A friend/judge's son did some of the federal investigation and questioning on this guy. I'd call him a psycho, but he only reflects the sick system we've erected.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:27 | 2893043 quartshort
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Big business is imprisoning people.

Took a little liberty, hope you don't mind.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:49 | 2892823 Rearranging Dec...
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I would love to see a side by side chart that would chart level of incarceration along with Math score ranking by country over time. I'll bet the math score rankings went down at the same time as our incarceration rate grew.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:54 | 2892834 Catullus
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Houston has 2 million people? More like 5 million. And don't give me that metro Houston shit. That just doesn't make sense to anyone.

By the way, Houston is where the cop a guy in wheelchair who was threatening the officer with a pen. And just to show how winning the guy is, he shot another person. Serial killer on HPD, yet the DA has too much of a vagina to actually prosecute a cop.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 21:58 | 2892850 sangell
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Once again ZeroHedge upholds its tradition of having the most worthless comments on the www.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 01:35 | 2893207 Manic by Proxy
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So why add to it? (That feeling is the petard)

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:00 | 2892854 reader2010
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One of the greatest projects offering the best ROI is operating prisons.  You didn't know that?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:01 | 2892856 Shizzmoney
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“The scope of things that are now criminal in corporate law is exponentially higher than it was merely twenty years ago.”

And there you have it.

On the bright side, we'll have a replacement for cheap labor (that, for $0.50/Hr, makes the furniture we get "at an everyday low price!") after the laborers riot in Communist China.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:06 | 2892871 notquantumdum
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Who would have ever thought that the creator of Beavis and Butthead would apparently beat Matt Taibbi to the punch with creating the hilarious phrase, "pound me in the a$$ prison."

. . .

Could it be that our justice system catches more of the (defined) criminals?

Or, has more definitions of "crime?

Or, some terrible combination of both?

I don't know, I'm just asking the questions . . . to all those just about to type a histrionic response.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:17 | 2892894 notquantumdum
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Or, just catches more of the criminals we would would mostly all want locked up?

I'm not so sure.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:11 | 2892882 dexter_morgan
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And, we are the highest WITHOUT incarcerating the effing banksters and politicians that are the largest criminal element in our society! Amazing.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:19 | 2892897 notquantumdum
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Population-wise, they may not be very many of us despite how ever much harm they do.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:27 | 2892922 notquantumdum
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Or, don't do?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:35 | 2892936 Monedas
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Minimum security Fed prisons are pretty nice !  Tax cheats mostly, good card games, fewer ass raping monkeys .... a higher class of guest !  Good libraries and salad bars ! Lompoc gets good marks !  Nice climate and ICBM contrails in the sunset !

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:46 | 2892956 Mercury
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Not a bad retirement plan these days considering some of the alternatives.  The key is fine-tuning your crime (not too serious) and influencing whatever you can to make sure you end up in the right place.

Fortunately almost everything is illegal these days in some way, shape or form so there is quite a menu to choose from.

How long before legal practices/consultancies sprout up to service this demand?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:47 | 2892963 notquantumdum
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i hope this is only a scary thought.

. . .

what a prospect!


Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:48 | 2892967 Monedas
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Designer crimes are the key !    Lompoc has a nice "campus" with less security than LAX !   Prison staff got it good, too, and are more polite than TSA !   World class comfort and security ! Many people live worse on the outside !

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:53 | 2892978 BudFox2012
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The prison staff are pretty great, more like Sgt Schultz from Hogans Heros than real prison guards.

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:51 | 2892973 BudFox2012
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I'm just wondering if I'm better off committing a white collar crime now, turn myself in, and go to a minium security prison now, or should I wait until they take me to a FEMA camp in the future?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:31 | 2893052 notquantumdum
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I'm sorry to mention it but, 30 minutes later, and I'm still laughing at this post.  Kudos , Bud.  'I hope.


Tue, 10/16/2012 - 01:45 | 2893210 Manic by Proxy
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But either way you could still arrange an occasional ass pounding, right? I am concerned that many or most FEMA camp inhabitants are....will be elderly. Their sense of fun and play may not be suitably frisky. Does this concern matter? Or shoud I just plan to beat off to my 2008 Obama "Change" poster?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 22:53 | 2892975 notquantumdum
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how do i sign up to be a banker, again?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:07 | 2892996 Monedas
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You'll learn from some of the sharpest fraudsters, scammers and Ponzi operators alive .... you'd have to go to Harvard to get a better education !  Christmas and Thanksgiving are celebrated more than in public ghetto schools .... kitchen is partially staffed by fellow prisoners .... fresh sheets, towels and pillow cases .... twice a week .... institutional grade toilet paper !

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:11 | 2893009 Monedas
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Think ZeroHedge summer camp ?   Downside .... your girlfriend will fuck your buddies and spend your gold on clothes !

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:18 | 2893020 notquantumdum
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Ok, Well that certainly closes the deal; where do I sign up?

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 23:30 | 2893051 atomicwasted
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Prison rape is a means of social control.  People's willingness to engage in civil disobedience, or disobey the gangsters in blue, is substantially reduced by the threat of going to pound you in the ass prison.  MLK would not be writing letters from Birmingham Jail today, and that is the way the PTB want it.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 00:00 | 2893099 Motorhead
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Too many f'in lawyers don't help.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 00:04 | 2893108 Stuck on Zero
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About 55% of those prisoners were born outside the United States.  About 25% are illegal aliens.  We should send them back to their home countries and then the chart will look more balanced.


Tue, 10/16/2012 - 00:15 | 2893128 old dude
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Other than Japan and South Korea, this chart only shows Europe and North America. Does anybody know what the ratio is in the rest of the world or China, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea and Russia?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 01:30 | 2893205 Manic by Proxy
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You didn't build those prisons.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 03:55 | 2893317 toomanyfakecons...
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Watch the ending scene of "Boiler Room" when they paddy wagons and prison buses pull up to the "JT Marlin" headquarters to arrest all the financial criminals. This will be happening on Wall Street and at the White House very soon.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 04:21 | 2893336 bunnyswanson
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Oh really?  Should we just stand by and count on it?  Take your word for it?  Can you share a source?  I need some hope.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 06:55 | 2893712 Inthemix96
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You have been posting and saying the same thing along with links to this "drake" fella for about a year.

You have under 4 weeks to be proven a fraud.  Do it now then, or stop posting bollocks.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 04:15 | 2893332 bunnyswanson
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"You could have to pay a fine for simply clicking on the wrong link.

Right now, a group of 600 industry lobbyist "advisors" and un-elected government trade representatives are scheming behind closed doors1,2 to craft an international agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Why the secrecy? We know from leaked documents3 that the TPP includes what amounts to an Internet trap that would:

  1. Criminalize4 some of your everyday use of the Internet,
  2. Force service providers to collect and hand over your private data without privacy safeguards5, and
  3. Give media conglomerates more power to fine you for Internet use,6 remove online content—including entire websites—and even terminate7 your access to the Internet.
  4. Create a parallel legal system of international tribunals that will undermine national sovereignty and allow conglomerates to sue countries for laws that infringe on their profits.

The TPP's Internet trap is secretive, extreme, and it could criminalize your daily use of the Internet. We deserve to know what will be blocked, what we and our families will be fined for.

If enough of us speak out now, we can force participating governments to come clean. Your signature will send a message to leaders of participating countries.8

"Please sign our petition to make your objection heard."



Tue, 10/16/2012 - 04:29 | 2893347 BlackVoid
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Land of the free. LOL.

Well, actually people hate the US of A because of the constant wars. And the false propaganda that goes along with it.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 16:07 | 2896003 Incubus
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they hate us for our freedom to shop at our choice of 3 different walmarts within 10 miles and fastfood and wrestling/nfl and piss water beer.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 07:27 | 2893734 Fix It Again Timmy
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Many years ago when young and dumb, a friend of mind along with a buddy got sent up for armed robbery.  While in Attica, he got a college degree and when he got out, he got a very good job with the state of NY.  Why get saddled with debt when you can rob a gas station, go to prison and go to school for free?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 07:47 | 2893748 johnnylaw187
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Among other things that should be required in our curriculum...all school children should have to attend a Scared Straight program.


From Scared Straight '99:

"I'm gonna look after you kid.  Get you coffee, kid.  Cigarettes, kid.  Sandwiches, kid.  You say, "whoa this is a nice guy".  Then I'M GONNA PUSH UP ON YA!  I'm gonna show you the real deal!  What are ya gonna do?  I wanna meet your mother"  

And in the shower room they have 5 showers and they shower 50 guys at a time.  50 big, fat, greasy guys who just came in from the yard pumping iron.  And they look at ya funny.  You say, "I'm a man.  I stand at a urinal to piss.  Why are they lookin' at me like I'm a woman?" That's prison."  


Tue, 10/16/2012 - 07:56 | 2893767 FranSix
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When they legalize marijuana, they will throw the debtors in jail instead.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 08:23 | 2893851 CrabGrassKila
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Ignorance is Bliss for so many of you..........

For the Po Po in Blue, and inmates, in Brown

Unless youv'e heard the echo of Steel and Concrete,

Please Stand, Down... 

As far as Legalizing, Join in on getting that Drive-itself Google-Beetle up and running , and maybe, just maybe part of it's DESTRUCTION, can be, Controlled.....

Hell on Earth, does exist.............

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 09:44 | 2894210 indio007
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Ticker symbol CCA  for the win!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 10:53 | 2894677 Herdee
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Ya,the FEDS have been filling up prisons at all security levels with pot smokers and pot dealers.Trouble is,it's running up the deficit and making the United States less competitive because of high tax rates.Then there's the issue of privately run prisons for profit where politicians,local cops,judges and FBI Agents have shares in these facilities in order to make dividend income.Did I mention their pension funds being tied up in this form of corruption?Everyone around the world refers to the U.S. prison system as a "GULAG".Top it off with a war in afgan-land that's unwinnable.What's that got to do with it you say?Here's the answer,how can you win a war against a plant?Plus,you've even got a U.S. Government Agency(CIA)running drugs.Hillary Clinton shut up pretty quick after referring to that country as a "NARCO-State".She was told to shut-up for a reason.The better idea is for the Government to regulate weed in order to pay off the deficit and put the Mafia out of business.But politicians want to keep their buddies in organized crime funded.There's evidence to show that a fifth of the worlds economy is illegally controlled.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 17:33 | 2896211 chinucklehead
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The fake drug war is not the only source of guests for Uncle Sam's prison state.

Check out Stephen Baskerville and for analysis of how the domestic violence industry, along with the divorce courts, are upping the ante by finding new and perhaps even more fraudulent reasons to imprison men without cause.

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