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Debate Post-Mortem: Jobs-4-Jeremy, Gang Bangers, And Candi(e)d Fact Checking

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Well, who knew it was gonna actually get close to fisty-cuffs? According to CNN Polls, 65% believe Obama won (with 50% saying by a lot) and 19% that Romney won by a lot. Obama dominated speaking time 44:05 to a mere 40:50 for Romney (almost the same margin as in the last debate); but Romney (somewhat ironically) crushed Obama in the drinking game 44:23. Obama Intrade Odds wavered during the debate ending marginally higher but S&P 500 futures are tracking lower. Twitter interest fell 30% from the first debate. Full Bloomberg Headlines and Top Ten Debate Lines below. Obama uttered a brisk 7651 words for a 173 word/min pace (172 last debate) while Romney's 8006 words  were spoken at a 196 word/min pace (slower than his 217 pace of the last debate) but still the winner. So, time: Obama, drinking-game: Romney, word-count: Romney - the winner of tonight's debate is Mitt Romney.

 

The Ten Best Debate Lines (via Politico)

ROMNEY:

  1. “When do you graduate? 2014. When you come out in 2014, I presume I’m going to be president. I’m going to make sure you get a job.
  2. “When we’re talking about math that doesn’t add up, how about $5 trillion of deficits over the last four years. That’s math that doesn’t add up.”
  3. “We took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. I went to a number of women’s groups and said, ‘Can you help us find folks.’ And they brought us whole binders full of women.”
  4. “You shouldn’t have to hire a lawyer to figure out how to get into this country legally.”
  5. “The president took Detroit bankrupt. You took General Motors bankrupt. You took Chrysler bankrupt. So when you say that I wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did. And I think it’s important to know that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on their feet so they could start hiring more people.”

OBAMA:

  1. “Gov. Romney doesn’t have a five-point plan; he has a one-point plan.
    And that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different
    set of rules.”
  2. “When he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considers themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about: folks on social security who have worked all their lives; veterans, who sacrificed for this country; students, who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams but also this country’s dreams; soldiers, who are overseas fighting for us right now; people who are working hard every day.”
  3. “We haven’t heard from the governor any specifics beyond Big Bird and eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood in terms of how he pays for that.”
  4. “I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours, so it doesn’t take as long.”
  5. “Gov. Romney was a very successful investor. If somebody came to you, governor, with a plan that said, ‘Here, I want to spend $7 or $8 trillion and we’re going to pay for it but we can’t tell you until maybe after the election how we’re going to do it.’ You wouldn’t have taken such a sketchy deal and neither would you, the American people.”

 

Twitter Interest fell notably:

 

 

CNN Poll:

Time In The Game:

  • Obama 44:05 Minutes
  • Romney 40:50 Minutes

Winner: Obama

 

Drinking Game Stats (via @DebateDrinking) -

Winner: Romney

 

Bloomberg Headlines:

ROMNEY

*ROMNEY SAYS STUDENTS HAVE MORE DEBT ON THEIR BACKS THAN BEFORE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'JOBS HAVE BEEN TO SCARCE'
*ROMNEY SAYS THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES DO NOT PUT PEOPLE TO WORK
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE HAVE NOT MADE PROGRESS WE NEED TO MAKE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'MY PLAN WAS TO HAVE DETROIT GO THROUGH BANKRUPTCY'
*ROMNEY SAYS BANKRUPTCY IS A PROCESS TO GET PEOPLE BACK ON FEET
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA'S 'DETROIT ANSWER IS WAY OFF THE MARK'
*ROMNEY SAYS OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION ARE DOWN ON FEDERAL LANDS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I BELIEVE IN OUR RENEWABLE CAPABILITIES'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'HOW IN THE WORLD DID PRES. SAY NO TO PIPELINE?'
*ROMNEY SAYS COAL JOBS AND PRODUCTION ARE NOT UP
*ROMNEY SAYS NO ONE BELIEVES OBAMA WILL PUSH FOR ENERGY JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL FIGHT TO CREATE MORE ENERGY' IN THE U.S.
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL DRILL OFFSHORE IN ALASKA AND VIRGINA'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I DON'T HAVE A POLICY TO STOP WIND JOBS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'MIDDLE INCOME TAX PAYERS HAVE BEEN BURIED'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WANT TO BRING RATES DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD'
*ROMNEY SAYS THE TOP 5% OF THE TAX PAYERS 'WILL STAY THE SAME'
*ROMNEY SAYS NO LONGER WILL 'YOU PAY TAX ON YOUR SAVINGS'
*ROMNEY SAYS NO TAXES ON INTEREST/CAPITAL GAINS FOR MIDDLE CLASS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I AM NOT LOOKING TO CUT TAXES FOR WEALTHY PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS JOBS ARE GOING BECAUSE OF OBAMA'S POLICIES
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA TALKS ABOUT MY PLAN IN A WAY THAT IS FOREIGN
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BALANCE BUDGETS'
*ROMNEY SAYS AS GOV. TRIED TO FIND WOMEN TO BE IN MY CABINET
*ROMNEY SAYS I REALIZE IF YOU HIRE WOMEN YOU NEED FLEXIBLE SKED
*ROMNEY SAYS HELPS TO ADAPT TO FLEXIBLE WORK SCHEDULE FOR WOMEN
*ROMNEY: EVERY WOMAN IN U.S. SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTIVE
*ROMNEY SAYS PRES.BUSH HAD A DIFFERENT PATH FOR A DIFFERENT TIME
*ROMNEY SAYS IF YOU ELECT OBAMA 'YOU GET REPEAT OF LAST 4 YRS'
*ROMNEY SAYS THIS PRESIDENT 'CAN'T DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA 'DOESN'T UNDERSTAND' HOW TO CREATE JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA IS 'GREAT AS A SPEAKER' AND DESCRIBING VISION
*ROMNEY SAYS WE WELCOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AS IMMIGRANTS
*ROMNEY SAYS WE SHOULD GIVE GREEN CARDS TO PEOPLE WITH SKILLS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NEED TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'
*ROMNEY SAYS WON'T GRANT AMNESTY TO THOSE WHO COME ILLEGALLY
*ROMNEY SAYS THE E-VERIFIED PART OF ARIZ.LAW IS A NATIONAL MODEL
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ROUNDING UP PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS MY INVESTMENTS ARE HANDLED BY BLIND TRUST
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA IS RIGHT 'THE BUCK DOES STOP AT HIS DESK'
*ROMNEY SAYS MANY DAYS PASSED BEFORE WE KNEW IF THIS WAS PROTEST
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW' REASONS BEHIND BENGHAZI ATTACK
*ROMNEY SAYS DAY AFTER BENGHAZI OBAMA FLEW TO FUNDRAISERS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'THIS WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK' NOT DEMONSTRATION
*ROMNEY SAYS LOOK AT THE SPACE BETWEEN 'US AND ISRAEL'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA'S POLICIES IN MIDDLE EAST WERE 'APOLOGY TOUR'
*ROMNEY SAYS IT TOOK OBAMA 14 DAYS TO CALL BENGHAZI TERRORISM
*ROMNEY SAYS I AN NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING CERTAIN GUNS ILLEGAL
*ROMNEY SAYS I DON'T WANT TO BRING ANY NEW GUN LEGISLATION
*ROMNEY SAYS 'TWO PARENT FAMILIES' MAKE POVERTY RATES GO DOWN
*ROMNEY SAYS GREATEST FAILURE OF ADMINSTRATION WAS FAST&FURIOUS
*ROMNEY SAYS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FAST AND FURIOUS
*ROMNEY SAYS THE ASSAULT WEAPON BAN IN MASS. WAS BI-PARTISAN
*ROMNEY SAYS TRICKLE DOWN GOV'T WON'T CREATE MORE JOBS IN U.S.
*ROMNEY SAYS TRICKLE DOWN GOV'T HAS NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS NOT PLAYED BY RULES' CURRENCY MANIPULATE
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA REFUSES TO LABEL CHINA A CURRENCY MANIPULATOR
*ROMNEY SAYS CHINA TAKES UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OF MANUFACTURING
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL BE STRICT WITH PEOPLE WE TRADE WITH'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMACARE HAS BEEN REASON COMPANIES ARN'T HIRING
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS BEEN CHEATING OVER THE YEARS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS BEEN STEALING OUR IP'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HACKS INTO OUR COMPUTERS'
*ROMNEY SAYS GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I CARE ABOUT 100% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD'

OBAMA:

*OBAMA SAYS 'WE NEED TO BE CREATING JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'I WANT TO BUILD MANUFACTURING JOBS' IN THE U.S.
*OBAMA SAYS 'NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BEST EDUCATION SYSTEM'
*OBAMA SAYS 'HAVE TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT' TO INVEST IN EDUCATION
*OBAMA SAYS 'ROMNEY HAS A ONE POINT PLAN'
*OBAMA SAYS PLAN HAS THOSE ON TOP 'PLAYING BY DIFFERENT RULES'
*OBAMA SAYS 'MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO CONTROL OUR OWN ENERGY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'OIL IMPORTS ARE AT LOWEST LEVELS IN 16 YEARS'
*OBAMA SAYS WE HAVE ABOUT 600K JOBS THAT CAN COME FROM ENERGY
*OBAMA: ROMNEY'S PLAN 'TO LET OIL COMPANIES WRITE ENERGY POLICY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'VERY LITTLE OF WHAT GOV. ROMNEY SAYS IS TRUE'
*OBAMA SAYS ALL OF A SUDDEN ROMNEY IS A CHAMPION OF ENERGY
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE STARTING TO BUILD MORE EFFICIENT CARS'
*OBAMA SAYS WITH ROMNEY'S POLICY WE COULD BE IN FINANCIAL MESS
*OBAMA SAYS 'MY TAX PHILOSOPHY IS SIMPLE'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WANT TO CONTINUE TAX CUTS ON MIDDLE CLASS'
*OBAMA SAYS 'THE WEALTHY DO A LITTLE BIT MORE' ON PAYING TAXES
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S ALLIES IN CONGRESS ARE HOLDING 98% HOSTAGE
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY AND I 'JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT THEORY' ON TAXES
*OBAMA SAYS 'TOP DOWN ECONOMICS' WON'T WORK FOR EVERYBODY
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY 'CAN'T TELL YOU' WHAT LOOPHOLES HE WILL CLOSE
*OBAMA SAYS THE COST OF WHAT ROMNEY WANTS TO DO IS ABOUT $8T
*OBAMA: ROMNEY IDEAS 'BIG BIRD & DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S TAX PLAN DOES NOT ADD UP
*OBAMA SAYS ONE OF THE FIRST BILLS I SIGNED WAS LILY LEDBETTER
*OBAMA SAYS LILY LEDBETTER ACT IS NOT WOMEN'S ISSUE,FAMILY ISSUE
*OBAMA DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A POCKETBOOK ISSUE
*OBAMA:ROMNEY FEELS OK HAVING WASHINGTON DECIDE ON WOMEN HEALTH
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN I STARTED 'WE CAME IN DURING HARD TIMES'
*OBAMA SAYS 'YOU ARE LAST PERSON WHO WILL GET TOUGH ON CHINA'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY IS DIFFERENT THAN BUSH
*OBAMA SAYS BUSH NEVER SAID TO STOP PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING
*OBAMA: BUSH UNLIKE ROMNEY WAS IN FAVOR OF IMMIGRATION REFORM
*OBAMA SAYS OBAMACARE IS SAME HEALTHCARE PLAN AS ROMNEYCARE
*OBAMA SAYS 'TALENT FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD WANT TO COME HERE'
*OBAMA SAYS WE NEED TO FIX A BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM
*OBAMA SAYS IF WE 'GO AFTER' ILLEGALS, GO FOR CRIMINALS
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SAID HE WOULD 'VETO THE DREAM ACT'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY BELIEVED IN SELF-DEPORTATION AND ARIZ. LAW
*OBAMA SAYS 'MY PENSION IS NOT AS BIG AS YOURS GOV. ROMNEY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE HAVEN'T SEEN REPUBLICANS SERIOUS ON IMMIGRATION'
*OBAMA SAYS 'NOBODY IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT DIPLOMATS THAN I'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WHEN FOLKS MESS WITH AMERICANS WE GO AFTER THEM'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY PUT OUT PRESS RELEASE AFTER BENGHAZI
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S RELEASE WAS POLITICAL NOT PRESIDENTIAL
*OBAMA SAYS IN TERMS OF BENGHAZI'WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED'
*OBAMA SAYS SEC. CLINTON HAS DONE GREAT JOB,BUT SHE WORKS FOR ME
*OBAMA SAYS DAY AFTER BENGHAZI ATTACK, I SAID THIS WAS TERRORISM
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SUGGESTION WE PLAY POLITICS IS OFFENSIVE
*OBAMA SAYS NO ONE ON OBAMA TEAM WOULD PLAY POLITICS OR MISLEAD
*OBAMA SAYS THAT HE CALLED ATTACK TERROR THE DAY AFTER BENGHAZI
*OBAMA SAYS AMERICA HAS LONG TRADITION OF HUNTING, PROTECTION
*OBAMA SAYS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO NOT GIVE CRIMINALS GUNS
*OBAMA SAYS WEAPONS FOR SOLIDERS SHOUDLN'T BE ON STREETS
*OBAMA SAYS HE WANTS TO LOOK INTO ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
*OBAMA SAYS AUTOMATIC WEAPONS SHOULD BE OUT OF CRIMINAL HANDS
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WAS FOR ASSAULT WEAPON BAN BEFORE AGAINST IT
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SAID HIRING TEACHERS DOESNT GROW ECONOMY
*OBAMA SAYS GOV. ROMNEY AND I BOTH WANT TO LOWER CORP.TAX RATES
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE ON PACE TO DOUBLE OUR EXPORTS'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S COMPANY INVESTED IN PIONEERS OF OUTSOURCING
*OBAMA SAYS THERE ARE SOME JOBS THAT WON'T COME BACK TO AMERICA
*OBAMA SAYS 'I WANT HIGH WAGE, HIGH SKILL JOBS' IN AMERICA
*OBAMA SAYS 'I DON'T BELIEVE GOV'T CREATES JOBS'
*OBAMA SAYS 'I ALSO BELIEVE EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE FAIR SHOT'
*OBAMA SAYS THERE IS DIFFERENT VISION ABOUT MOVING U.S. FORWARD
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S 47% ARE VETS, STUDENTS, MIDDLE CLASS

 

Word-clouds to come... to break the tie...

Obama - 7,651 words (seemed to like talking about Governor (62x) Romney (43x), Jobs, Got Going, and Country)

 

Romney - 8,006 words (People, Get Going, Four Years, Jobs, Want)

 

So - the results are in:

  • Time - Obama
  • Drinking Game - Romney
  • Word-Count - Romney

The Winner Is: Mitt Romney

 

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Tue, 10/16/2012 - 22:58 | 2897128 Tsunami Wave
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"Obama won by a lot (50%)" CNN... hah of course they'd think that.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:05 | 2897150 Crtrvlt
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They, the people polled by CNN, thought Romney won last time

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:25 | 2897218 spastic_colon
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Obama could have farted his words and the media would say he won, it is a complete set up for him to have all the "media momentum" going into the last days before nov 6

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:49 | 2897271 nope-1004
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So, anyone know what the hell we're voting for?  What's the difference between these two placards?  I see a dark skinned one, and an old gray one -- two sides of the same bank-bitch coin, that's all.

 

Total.Phucking.Facade.

No one "won".... we're all losers for being led by such incompetence.

 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:05 | 2897309 James_Cole
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I thought they were actually going to come to blows at one point, oh to dream.

Next election the debates should be replaced by MMA cage matches. We can assume well enough whichever two candidates are running their polices will be the same so why not get right into it? 

Who wants it more??

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:26 | 2897341 AlaricBalth
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Did anyone catch the irony when Obama accused Romney of " investing in companies that are building surveillance equipment for China to spy on its own folks."

It was stated as if Obama was shocked that a government could have the audacity to spy on its citizens. Made me ill.

I suppose he forgot a certain Executive Order Janet Napolitano sent over from DHS for Obama to sign authorizing enhanced cyber-surveillance against US citizens.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:34 | 2897356 James_Cole
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I found it especially ironic when the other politican accused that politician of not being honest with the American people when it was clear that they weren't being honest with the American people. The sad thing is my politician was the honest politician but everyone thinks the other politican was the honest one. 

Oh gawd I drank a lot during that debate. 

The winner of the debate is really easy, anyone playing the drinking game. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 03:57 | 2897462 zhandax
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What do you expect when you watch 'Merica try to pick which turd will shine up the prettiest.  Damn sheep!  I am not ashamed of my country; I am ashamed of the idiots who inhabit it.  What happened to the laws which mandated that you don't vote unless you have 'skin in the game'?  /rhetorical

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:52 | 2897621 dark pools of soros
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Is twitter bankrupt yet? Or is it going to be turned into a public works like the sewer? I rather see people's shit than most of their thoughts

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 04:05 | 2897466 jeff montanye
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two excellent points in succession above.  

it is tragically funny that obama could ever use another country's police state tactics as a point of critique when he has, uniquely in our history, openly claimed the right to assassinate u.s. citizens far from a battlefield on his own executive order immune from appeal or challenge of any kind

they, romney and obama (or obama and bush), do blur one into the other based on policy and degree of mendacity, even without intoxication.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:26 | 2897590 UGrev
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Ron Paul won that shit, hands down. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:08 | 2897561 azzhatter
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I imagined Ron Paul pushing back on Obama and asking why he feels it's okay to spy on Americans

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:20 | 2897583 Helvetico
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Hey, there's a still a chance for Ron! If only you could get his message out there, I think the American people would eat up his confused, inarticulate old man act. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 12:32 | 2898257 Ben Dover
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I know that manoa mano approach worked for us back in the 80's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:37 | 2897363 All Risk No Reward
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Oh, they know exactly what they are doing.  The fact you've fallen for their Sun Tzu Art of War tactic shows how good they are at what they do.

“Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.“
~Sun Tzu, Art of War

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:20 | 2897577 jus_lite_reading
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It looks as if only user "nope-1004" and a few others actually "get it." There is no "two party system." These "candidates" are different puppets with the same masters, and YOU are the slaves! This political meandering is nothing but more of the same old dog and pony show to keep the sheep asleep and preoccupied, while the real action that is deciding your "fate" is taking place behind the scenes...

The fact of the matter is, there are no winners in this years election, only losers. The corporate greed that has defined America has already killed the patient. ZHer's all supposedly know that Uncle BEnron is looking out only for the interests of the banksters and will do anything in his "unlimited power" to maintain the status quo no matter WHO GETS ELECTED so what are you arguing about?

You should be concerned about special lobby groups deciding your fate and looking out for the interests of big corporations (Follow the MONEY!!)

You should be concerend about the toxic genetically engineered food that you are consuming and WHY big corps like MonSatan are lobbying and spending HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS to pevent YOU from knowing what products contain GMOs.. (You are what you eat... should you have the RIGHT TO KNOW?)

You should be concerned about your freedoms being erroded in the name of "nationa| security", about your right to choose, about why your nation is really going to war (hint: $$$$ and Z!0N!$T$)

You should be concerned about the rising taxes, flat pay and the increasing unemployment... (the Postal Service, Social Security Syetem, etc etc are insolvent. How will they fix them?)

You should be concerned about the devaluing of the ponzi dollar and what it means for your lifestyle... (you didn't think gas was $4.29 because the world is running out of oil or because demand is up so much because the global eCONomy is so strong, did you?)

You should be concerned about tax monies ill-spent and misallocated and why the wealthy get away with paying less tax than you while you struggle to survive and argue over which candidate "won" the debate...

Did any of the candidates address these issues? 

It's already GAME OVER...

Mathematically, the entire world must go into a hyperinflationary phase in order to maintain some sort of status quo until they can't.... and then as history has it, war followed by some new form of gubmint... perhaps the mythical NWO...

You are not living the Twilight Zone... you are all in HELL

 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 11:55 | 2898151 Panafrican Funk...
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"you are all in HELL"

Nearly there, but the music hasn't stopped quite yet.  The U.S. has put itself in a position where a world-war event is the only outcome, but the "when" is whenever they feel like it.  My sense is that they're waiting for post-election.  In the meantime, for drinking game supplies, the 1:1 or more stocking rule applies, liquor will be "good as gold" in a barter environment, and it's easy and cheap to store, and has a long shelf life. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 11:49 | 2898135 A Nanny Moose
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This is the best we have to offer.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:30 | 2897409 5551212
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I think Obama did burp during his comment on guns. That was pretty funny.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:12 | 2897511 BeaverFever
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I thought that I heard Candy Honey Cruller let one rip halfway through the fake debate.

If that woman isn't a biscuit shy of 400 pounds I'll eat my hockey stick.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:38 | 2897529 Monedas
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A fat woman can fart and even she won't know about it .... unless some of the aromatic gas works its way to the surface .... a couple of minutes later !     www.fartfax.com

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:08 | 2897558 augustusgloop
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to quote obama, 'that's not true.' media likes to make it a horse race, to pick up what little is left of ratings. btw, i think the pink lady, the times, reported that romney 'won' the last joke of a debate. 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:07 | 2897156 FEDbuster
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The third debate should be changed to a three round match in the Octagon.  Let the two old guys fight MMA style, more people would watch and the same amount of information would be presented.

In fact, make it a PPV event with all proceeds going to deficit reduction.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:06 | 2897311 James_Cole
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Opps, sorry FEDbuster you were ahead of me on this. After tonights debate it's a no brainer. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:11 | 2897396 donsluck
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How about ALL the candidates. And make it written, with the moderator simply reading the replies to the "debate" questions.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 04:02 | 2897464 zhandax
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For all the difference in the two, you could give the election to whoever pisses higher on the west wall of the white house after a beer conference.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:12 | 2897175 Stoploss
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That's what you get when you pile 82 retards in a room...

Then make the fatal mistake of allowing them to speak.

 

There is your American education system for all to see in it's fucked up glory...

 

 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:25 | 2897221 Jeff Lebowski
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nicely said.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:25 | 2897586 GetZeeGold
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Thank you AFL-CIO......any word of Jimmy Hoffa yet?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:13 | 2897400 donsluck
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Education is run by the states. They have vastly different results. Most of the problem is a few very bad parents producing kids that suck up all the time in the classroom. This is an argument for free abortions on demand.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 04:11 | 2897467 jeff montanye
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your analysis is excellent, imo, both on the minority of children (often but not, in my experience, exclusively from bad parents; life can be so puzzling) taking up class time and the efficacy of free abortion to reduce many social problems at minimal expense, especially when coupled with good care for wanted children.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:16 | 2897187 ACP
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I find it interesting how CNN had to change the character of the survey. I wonder why they did that?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:17 | 2897189 Eireann go Brach
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Kenya 1 - America 0

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:47 | 2897537 Monedas
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Eireann go broke !      Feces smeared walls 17 - Dead parade horses 11 - Dead band fags 7       www.obamasrealfather.com

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:03 | 2897552 Monedas
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When the shit smears on the walls are only 4 feet high .... IRA Leprechauns !

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:25 | 2897587 Helvetico
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Don't you mean Kenya 1- Mexico 0? You don't really think Mathias Ramirez's certificado de nacimiento is verdadero, do you? 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 02:51 | 2897435 yt75
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Romney is so ridiculous on energy (and Obama almost the same), quite "funny" ... :

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy52/TheDudePeakOil/USCrudeOilProduct...

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 09:10 | 2897676 GeezerGeek
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Obama-Crowley 50%, you meant to say? Of course I have the advantage here of having heard Crowley admit she was wrong on the Libya/terrorism putdown of Romney.

The Rs should insist on equal time and have Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity or Mark Levin be a moderator.

I'd like to see Gary Johnson posing the questions.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 11:51 | 2898138 BigInJapan
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I watched the 1st debate streamed from CBC.

In live polling, 77% of Canadians believed Obama had won the debate... It sickened me.

"Won by a lot". Is there a "Won by a lot" app on those Obamaphones?

 

 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:00 | 2897131 e-man
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The most surprising part of the debate was that CNN is still on the air.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:13 | 2897179 Clever Name
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If you can stomach them at all, I recommend watching on CSPAN.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:00 | 2897132 vast-dom
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Romney again wipes the floor with Obama (note: i detest both sides). 

 

The entire election hinges on borderline catatonic sheeple -- no intelligent person could vote for this.

It's both amusing and disturbing how many IQ points both candidates must drop in order to address these guests. I feel dumber after suffering through this debate.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:03 | 2897143 Tijuana Donkey Show
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The entire election hinges on rigged voting machines in key states. and the sheeple are catatonic, there is no borderline.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:08 | 2897164 vast-dom
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little does it matter if voting machines are rigged when the entire system is patently rigged.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:16 | 2897184 vast-dom
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before you hem and haw re: only total fucktard sheeple vote this election, take a watch:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKguI0NFek

 

maybe you suck and not the politicians = fuck hope. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:12 | 2897322 blunderdog
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      maybe you suck and not the politicians = fuck hope.

Fucking hope's a great idea, but there's no "either/or" here.  The politicians HAVE TO suck if the voters suck. 

They're voters.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:51 | 2897544 Monedas
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George Carlin in dead !   Monedas lives !

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:41 | 2897368 All Risk No Reward
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They don't need to rig voting machines when they rig the candidate selection process.

Tails they win, heads we lose.

Lucy isn't the idiot for pullin the ball away, Charlie Brown is the idiot for continuing to try and kick that field goal.

It's as though Charlie Brown is calling Lucy a stupid idiot for pulling the ball away as Lucy laughs at the dupes.

We have to elevate our mental game.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:24 | 2897211 Cursive
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@vast-dom

Wiped the floor? I kept waiting for Mittens to do something impressive and explain to people that mogas is higher because of inflation. He could have spoken to problems that lower and middle class people have, but he just talked about drilling. Complete whiff.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:26 | 2897223 vast-dom
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relatively speaking fucktard Red Team defeats fucktard Blue Team. you questioning the specifics is giving too much credit to either side. 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:11 | 2897566 azzhatter
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When questioned about the two candidates Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein said "I can vote for that man"

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:28 | 2897229 ACP
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Obunghole did exactly what Biden did, which appeals to savage gangstas, but Rommel geeked out and paid to much heed to the specifics of the debate, instead of moving on to the next subject.

(Note: I don't give a fuck what side people think I'm on).

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:31 | 2897240 vast-dom
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of both equally destructive, duplicitous, sociopathic sides? 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:33 | 2897242 ACP
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To sum it up: Yes.

Edit: My takeaway from this is......we're on our own!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:36 | 2897249 vast-dom
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every man for himself and god against all.

 

every man for himself and the fed against all.

 

every man for himself and obamney against all.

 

there you go bitches - you don't need a scintilla more reason to stay home on election day.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:01 | 2897301 ACP
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At least the "99%" are so brainwashed that the formula is simple:

If Obunghole wins, bash the rich and take bribes from Wall St and clean house.

If Rommel wins, bash the rich and take bribes from both sides, and clean house.

Whatever happens, Ryan is right......P90X (or the equaivalent) will be a must for the next few tumultuous years.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:41 | 2897369 respect the cock
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P90x is for cock-wranglers.

Crossfit is much better. Plus the chicks are hotter.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 02:50 | 2897434 vast-dom
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you and max can always go off and watch lame movies together.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:30 | 2897236 eigenvalue
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Candy Crowley is a plant for the Democrats. She helped Obummer the dickhead to lie on Benghazi. In my opinion, Obummer has the upper hand this time with so much help from that female fatso.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:12 | 2897568 azzhatter
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Man she is hot

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:17 | 2897333 cpzimmon
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As i blow my beets, I gurgle out "you're right" And then I inhale.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:46 | 2897373 jal
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huuuu!

"Romney again wipes the floor with Obama"

Is Romney wiping the floor while his binder full of women a cooking supper?

 

tutututut!

 new meme has been started by Romney ...

[b]Binder full of women[/b]

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 02:32 | 2897431 RichardP
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That's what binder's are for.  They keep things in their place.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:01 | 2897135 lolmao500
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Funny how all moderators are always democrats and democrats always talk more... I'm sure all a big coincidence.

And Obamabots apparently didn't hear the Fast & Furious bit that Obama totally ignored and the Obama statement : I want to ban assault weapons...

Obama needs to go, but Romney ain't much better, the guy is a neo-con, ban guns when he was in office and his company ``Bain Capital`` got a bailout from the feds.

Both are total scum.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:50 | 2897273 JPM Hater001
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lolmao500 you really need to come out of your shell.  Tell me sugar whats on your mind.  Stop holding back.  Tell me how you really feel!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:51 | 2897282 lolmao500
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How I really feel... this debate lacked lamp posts, ropes and angry mobs.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:07 | 2897313 Ms. Erable
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Drunk it, we're fucked.

EDIT: ...naw, fuggedaboudit. Makes more sense than the other way 'round.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:10 | 2897317 James_Cole
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The best thing about the debates is listening to Republicans whine and cry like babies if they lose. Dems are worse when they think they've won but as far as whiny losers Republicans are second to none.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:17 | 2897402 John_Coltrane
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He not only wants to ban guns he's working with U.N. plan to do so.  Rand Paul is on his ass on this one and he won't be able to sneak it through the senate.  However, just in case the Kenyan wins again I'm long SWHC (S&W) call options.  I'm willing to take a loss on my SWHC if Mittens wins however.  I'm voting for Mittens just to get rid of Obamacare-that and getting rid of Bernake and Geithner is the only reason to vote for Mitt.  I never thought I see a worse FED chair than Greenspan, but the Bernake has made him seem like a voice of reason. 

His strongest argument: you vote for this loser again and you're guaranteed four more years of stagflation.  With me, you have a 0.1% of an improved economy. 

I would like to point out since Ron Paul will be retiring, he would be available for treasury secretary (wouldn't that be a hoot!,  He'd probably refuse to issue any new debt effectively ending the FEDs role in money creation.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:00 | 2897136 Atomizer
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Both candidates skirted around the real problem in bringing jobs back to USA.. 

 http://www.wto.org/

 

Listen to these cock suckers who realize the curtain is closing, show is over.

The special interest groups on K street are understanding the host is on life support..

Multilateral institutions provide the global framework for peace and stability. But the difficulty governments face in reaching global agreements on trade, climate change and other issues has led many to question whether this model can still succeed. Is multilateralism in crisis? Anabel González, Costa Rica’s Minister of Foreign Trade, and Eduardo Pérez Motta, Chairman of Mexico’s Federal Commission on Competition, discuss this topic with Keith Rockwell, WTO spokesperson.

 

--Anabel González and Eduardo Pérez Motta

http://www.wto.org/library/flashvideo/video_e.htm?id=171&display=long

 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:13 | 2897571 azzhatter
azzhatter's picture

shitstains, every one of them

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:01 | 2897138 dryam
dryam's picture

God damn.  When are people going to realize the whole system is a scam.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:10 | 2897168 Clever Name
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When they wake up to a bank holiday?

Their EBT cards dont work?

Their money is just paper and digits?

When they have voted for the umpteenth time and realized the guy they voted for lied to them about 90% of what he said?

 

Correct answer: When they have no choice and reality has punched them in the face.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:21 | 2897203 FEDbuster
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"Everyone has a plan till they are punched in the face."  Mike Tyson

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:11 | 2897320 Angus McHugepenis
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"Everyone has a plan till they are punched in the face."  Mike Tyson

Now that is true reality.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:13 | 2897172 EvlTheCat
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Are you looking for a virtual reality answer or a ZH answer?  Read some 60's dystopia syfy and you will have your answer.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:21 | 2897204 nonclaim
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Or watch some dystopian "moving pictures"... probably some missing but still a great start:

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/the-top-50-dystopian-movies-of-all-time/

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:28 | 2897161 JustObserving
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Intrade has Obama up by 2.6% and Romney down by 2.9%.

Obama is now at 65% and Romney at 34.9%

http://www.intrade.com/v4/misc/scoreboard/

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 05:46 | 2897483 bank guy in Brussels
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Intrade seems to be for small bets 10- or less. According to a recent ZH article, big-money bettors use Pinnacle

Here is the Pinnacle page on US Presidential election Obama vs Romney ... as of this moment it seems to say, if I read it correctly -

1,426 bets 'all in' for Obama
3,100 bets 'all in' for Romney

Have not dug deeper into the site but here is the link ... maybe blocked for Yankee USA punters ? -

http://www.pinnaclesports.com/ContestCategory/Politics/300~2A~+U~2E~S~2E...

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:08 | 2897162 q99x2
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Which NWO are they running for?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:09 | 2897163 The Shootist
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I can't even believe Mittens is making Chinese currency manipulation one of his main platforms. I just want to slap him in the face. I want the Bernank to come over, like Jesus on Squidbillies, and say: NO Governor, the US is the biggest manipulator, haven't you heard of my work?! I make it rain trillions bitch, don't insult me with those "others" from across the globe.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:11 | 2897173 Clever Name
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Yeah I got a chuckle out of that one. On day one he will label them a manipulator, and tax all Chinese goods. That outta go over well with the masses.

"Why did all the prices at Wally World just go up?

Duh...I unno..."

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:23 | 2897209 FEDbuster
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He was trying to channel "The Donald".

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:19 | 2897194 e-man
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Not sure if Romney would actually carry that out but it has all the makings of a long and protracted trade war.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:51 | 2897281 JPM Hater001
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"I can't even believe Mitten"

You could have stopped there and everything would have been crystal clear.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:09 | 2897315 Angus McHugepenis
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You left out the "s" on Mittens. Or was that going too far?

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:09 | 2897167 j-dub
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Recap cliff notes:

Shit's fucked up and bullshit

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:14 | 2897182 Yen Cross
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Did "Debbie Wasserman Shultz", conduct the CNN pole? That's one nasty woman. :-{

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 05:33 | 2897481 DeltaDawn
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Did you catch her Vogue spread? A+ photoshop.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:15 | 2897514 Winston Churchill
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She and Hilary would make a great Dike tag team.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:14 | 2897573 azzhatter
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definition of a really nasty smelly cunt- Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:19 | 2897195 lemonobrien
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just mindless shit.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:19 | 2897197 pan
pan's picture

Don't vote!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:26 | 2897224 Water Is Wet
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Write in Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for President!!!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:36 | 2897252 prains
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How about Paris I'llsuckyoursackforasnortofcoke Hilton

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:20 | 2897199 Cursive
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This would have been much better with Roseanne Barr.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:22 | 2897205 valkir
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I dunno who win,but i know for sure who lose,bitchez.We.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:22 | 2897208 Cheduba
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I love how politicians take credit for things without mentioning certain other material facts.  Obama said exports have risen and China's currency has appreciated during my presidency.  Hmm, well the Federal Reserve has printed quite a lot of money, but that was conveniently left out.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:03 | 2897305 Angus McHugepenis
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He also leaves out that Larry Sinclair sucked his dick a couple times in Chigaco in the back of a limo and wrote a book about it. Ever wonder why Larry was never sued?

Oh, and his college records, etc...

 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:24 | 2897210 Yen Cross
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Harold and Kumar do "town hall". :-)

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:24 | 2897214 DeFeralCat
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When Romney made the comment on China, the prices at the Bain owned Staples just went up 20%

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:25 | 2897215 nmewn
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"7.2 million tweets per min during debate, Twitter estimates. First debate saw 10 million, the Twitter record for political events."

Maybe most "tweeters" can't walk and chew gum at the same time, its been my opinion of them...I did OK and took two piss breaks and three beers off from the laptop and helped with the kids homework at the same time.

A's & B's...what can I say ;-)

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:24 | 2897217 Crtrvlt
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No mention of qe and never ending wall st bailouts on oil prices. Awesome

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:27 | 2897226 Water Is Wet
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Yeah.  3 debates and the Federal Reserve has yet to come up.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:33 | 2897243 Bananamerican
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they're saving it for the 3rd debate, just watch and SEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:51 | 2897276 The Shootist
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It's okay. We KNOW "Gold" won't show up... it's just the 1,750 lb gorilla in the back of the room. Ready to rip them to shreds.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:24 | 2897407 John_Coltrane
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Wouldn't have been a hoot if Ron Paul  (clearly qualifies as an undecided voter but will surely support Gary Johnson) had gotten to ask a question about why the FED has been debasing the currency since 1913 and what they plan on doing about its interest rate manipulation and subsequent destruction of wealth via inflation.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:26 | 2897220 chump666
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Obama said "Romney" 43x's?

And Romney said "People" at lot

Obama lost, Romney won.

But I don't care.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:27 | 2897225 lolmao500
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When the choice is pure evil... vote for gridlock.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:34 | 2897246 chump666
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Ballsy.

 *ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HACKS INTO OUR COMPUTERS'

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:38 | 2897257 lolmao500
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Yeah well they are hacking everybody.

And it's not ballsy, it's helping the propaganda so that they pass government control over all the internet.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:51 | 2897378 chump666
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Ballsy, because Obama is a f*cking hypocrite with China and they will f*ck him sideways eventually anyway, once the UST dump occurs.  If the Fed does 100% monetize ALL US debt.  Obama's home town will go up in smoke thanks to food/inflation riots.

So, yeah, call out China.  Best start the fight now.  Then later.

 

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:55 | 2897291 Angus McHugepenis
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Yeah, but who is hacking Obagcrack's brain. The question about gun control and Obarecrack starts some diatribe about eductation. The fucking pathetic Candy moderator had to shut him up eventually. Even she couldn't take it.

 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:02 | 2897303 chump666
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lol

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:38 | 2897256 prains
prains's picture

Wish the word cloud was "FUCK YOU TEAM FUCHSIA"

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:46 | 2897374 jomama
jomama's picture

i didn't get the joke/reference.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:42 | 2897263 monogratis
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Romney was a much better liar than Obama.  He definitely has multiple personality disorder.  This guy would make a great salesman.  He could sell shit on a stick for a million dollars.  He probably has.

Obama is just pathetic in that he just kept coming up with excuses.  He should have just answered the questions without his exasperated whiny voice.  If he's got nothing to apologize for, then why act like it?  Just acknowledge that socialism doesn't really empower people any more than fascism unites people.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:46 | 2897269 Cosimo de Medici
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Though it matters little, a debate worth watching would be to have ten folks on a side, each highly partisan, and each allowed to ask a hardball question to the other candidate.  Moderator does nothing except shut off the candidate's microphone after three minutes.  No audience.  Well, maybe an audience of two hundred, split evenly between rabid supporters of each, and free flowing kegs of beer tapped two hours before game time.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:55 | 2897289 JPM Hater001
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Is the salsa fresh though?  Got to have fresh cilantro!

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:55 | 2897285 Atomizer
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Whomever is voted in, Central Banking expansion is the protocol. One has to wonder, if the policy writer's fear…  [Is the pen mightier than the sword?] or [Is a bullet mightier than a pen?]. With the amount of cluster fuck issues in the WH. The latter end will become your future. It will be interesting to see which one of the insiders use an assault weapon to silence themselves and extend their cause to 72 virgins. Enron 2012 gone WH Brotherhood wild. Heheheheheee.

 72 virgins

 

Just a bit of humor. Watching rats jump ship is entertaining. :P

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:55 | 2897290 uncle reggie
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Bread and circus. Nothing more, nothing less.

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:56 | 2897292 Sathington Willougby
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Winner:  Single Party System

Loser:  That one rational American left.  He's out there somewhere, awful lonely tonight.

 

Here's the fucking deal yall.  

You can vote for a big government cradle2grave nanny state freak - OR -You can vote for Obama.

Whoo hoo!

 

 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:01 | 2897294 conspicio
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Crowley practically lept over the desk to defend her hero when she shushed Mittens. "OH YES THE PRESIDENT DID SAY TERRORIST, HE GODDAMN WELL DID SAY IT, YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU MORMON FREAK, YOU JUST TAKE THAT BACK...oh wait, are the cameras on? <crowd goes apeshit applauding>

Neutrality? KISS MY ASS FOR YOUR NEUTRALITY, CANDY

Crowley could suck it before this debate when she sought the legitimacy of her peers all over the dial, now she's just another paid whore on a wet matress. If Candy is the best they got, sweetie, your cathouse isn't going to be in business much longer.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:13 | 2897513 lakecity55
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She would have given the mooselam a BJ if he swang that way.

Maybe Reggie was backstage.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:50 | 2897618 notadouche
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Did anyone happen to  notice the one in the audience that did the clapping happened to be Michelle.  She was the lone clapper.  

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 23:58 | 2897297 The Gooch
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Bourbon!

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:00 | 2897299 Pike Bishop
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Who won? Ain't Us, bitchez.

The choice is Lose or Lose Worse.

The one formula which works no matter who you are for.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:06 | 2897312 cynicalskeptic
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The staged farce continues.  No real difference in what matters, no real changes no matter who's elected.   I really think the deal is that Obama gets thie next 4 years so Obama and the Dems can get blamed for cotinued economic collapse and the upcomoing war with Iran and the rest of the Islamic world.  

Then in 2016 - counting on the lack of any real memory on the part of the American public (and the knee jerk 'throw them out' reaction from voters when confronted with a real mess) - Jeb Bush will take over as tyrant (using all the additiopnal powers addded to the Executive Branch by Obama - building on W's power grab).

Expect a short but intense period of looting - with the populace rioting in the streets.  Repubs will rue the day they defended the right to bear arms and failing to let Obama implement confiscation.   After the Treasury is completely empty (and the spoils stashed safely offshore) the elites will run for their compounds in Paraguay and China will foreclose on the US.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:10 | 2897316 kadoka
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Amazing the people who are getting on the "dont' vote" bandwagon.  I realized 20 years ago it was a farce.  Last person I voted for was Ross Perot. But I did register to vote this year because finally there is something VERY important to vote for.  Legalizing MJ in Colorado.  Will send in my ballot with one big Yes on it and the rest blank.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:29 | 2897351 Zgangsta
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Michael Jackson is illegal in Colorado?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:10 | 2897318 MrSteve
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the way some posters here carry on, you'd think this bafflegab fest actually, truly, really mattered for this election. I think what matters is the price of gas at the pump the few days before the election.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:23 | 2897340 blunderdog
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OK, but do you REALLY think Romney can bring about the kind of massive global depression that would be required to give us $2 gas?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:52 | 2897376 Flakmeister
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The only truthful line in the energy exchange whose veracity did not rely on the semantics....

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:15 | 2897330 HarryHaller
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I'm voting for whichever one who has the comon courtesy to give me a reach-around...

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:48 | 2897334 lolmao500
lolmao500's picture

Watching the debate, I didn't know they stacked shit that high.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:34 | 2897361 Angus McHugepenis
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Larry Sinclair gave Obarecrack much more than a simple reach-around and Obarecrack became POTUS. A reach-around will only get you hired on as the ammunition counter for DHS. And that's a few billion rounds you have to count for your reach-around.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:25 | 2897344 Seasmoke
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what would you do about assualt weapons ?

Obama....let me tell you about education

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 09:02 | 2897653 DosZap
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what would you do about assualt weapons ?

 

Uh, we decided to stop sending them to Mexican Cartels.

He can't ban shit,as long as the House is under GOP control.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:27 | 2897347 BullyBearish
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After tonight's debate I'm no longer undecided...I'm sending in my ballot tomorrow with Ron Paul for president and Joe Arpaio for VP.  I'm DONE!!

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:27 | 2897349 the iD
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the drinking tally missed a "tax cuts" by obanana but it was w/i the last 5min or so so they were prolly loaded.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:29 | 2897352 Seasmoke
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Obama was very very anxious , nervous, angry when Mitt had him dead in tracks on Libya......and i guess Mitt Fucked up and said the word terrorist and Obama was able to tap out to his partner Candy

 

got to love how democrats are so great at changing the meaning of words and phrases......i honestly had no idea what obama said on the lawn but when they ran it back, he clearly used it as a broad stroke and tonight was able to use it as he knew it was a terrorist attack.......Mitt was like what the fuck just happened !

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:33 | 2897358 blindman
blindman's picture

bernanke won the debate fair and
square, free-nspan won too. it is a global
thing.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:58 | 2897383 silverserfer
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its all over       clap    clap         clap clap clap

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:00 | 2897387 dwdollar
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What amazes me is how America is still able to function.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 08:46 | 2897612 notadouche
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We function in spite of President's not because of.  How much longer that can last is anyone's guess but it doesn't feel like it will be that much longer.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:03 | 2897388 Shhh dont wake ...
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Obama won on Style Points.

Neither won on Substance Points.

The American people Lose because those are the 2 Choices.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 11:46 | 2898130 Geruda
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So to be following the logic you are having us think means you are a loser?  That would be true.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:06 | 2897392 Kiwi Pete
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Obama win = war off. Yay for Obama!!

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 01:43 | 2897412 lolmao500
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Riiiiiiiiiight. Sorry but Obama will suck Bibi's dick just like Romney.

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