Debate Post-Mortem: Jobs-4-Jeremy, Gang Bangers, And Candi(e)d Fact Checking

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Well, who knew it was gonna actually get close to fisty-cuffs? According to CNN Polls, 65% believe Obama won (with 50% saying by a lot) and 19% that Romney won by a lot. Obama dominated speaking time 44:05 to a mere 40:50 for Romney (almost the same margin as in the last debate); but Romney (somewhat ironically) crushed Obama in the drinking game 44:23. Obama Intrade Odds wavered during the debate ending marginally higher but S&P 500 futures are tracking lower. Twitter interest fell 30% from the first debate. Full Bloomberg Headlines and Top Ten Debate Lines below. Obama uttered a brisk 7651 words for a 173 word/min pace (172 last debate) while Romney's 8006 words  were spoken at a 196 word/min pace (slower than his 217 pace of the last debate) but still the winner. So, time: Obama, drinking-game: Romney, word-count: Romney - the winner of tonight's debate is Mitt Romney.

 

The Ten Best Debate Lines (via Politico)

ROMNEY:

  1. “When do you graduate? 2014. When you come out in 2014, I presume I’m going to be president. I’m going to make sure you get a job.
  2. “When we’re talking about math that doesn’t add up, how about $5 trillion of deficits over the last four years. That’s math that doesn’t add up.”
  3. “We took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. I went to a number of women’s groups and said, ‘Can you help us find folks.’ And they brought us whole binders full of women.”
  4. “You shouldn’t have to hire a lawyer to figure out how to get into this country legally.”
  5. “The president took Detroit bankrupt. You took General Motors bankrupt. You took Chrysler bankrupt. So when you say that I wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did. And I think it’s important to know that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on their feet so they could start hiring more people.”

OBAMA:

  1. “Gov. Romney doesn’t have a five-point plan; he has a one-point plan.
    And that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different
    set of rules.”
  2. “When he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considers themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about: folks on social security who have worked all their lives; veterans, who sacrificed for this country; students, who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams but also this country’s dreams; soldiers, who are overseas fighting for us right now; people who are working hard every day.”
  3. “We haven’t heard from the governor any specifics beyond Big Bird and eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood in terms of how he pays for that.”
  4. “I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours, so it doesn’t take as long.”
  5. “Gov. Romney was a very successful investor. If somebody came to you, governor, with a plan that said, ‘Here, I want to spend $7 or $8 trillion and we’re going to pay for it but we can’t tell you until maybe after the election how we’re going to do it.’ You wouldn’t have taken such a sketchy deal and neither would you, the American people.”

 

Twitter Interest fell notably:

 

 

CNN Poll:

Time In The Game:

  • Obama 44:05 Minutes
  • Romney 40:50 Minutes

Winner: Obama

 

Drinking Game Stats (via @DebateDrinking) -

Winner: Romney

 

Bloomberg Headlines:

ROMNEY

*ROMNEY SAYS STUDENTS HAVE MORE DEBT ON THEIR BACKS THAN BEFORE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'JOBS HAVE BEEN TO SCARCE'
*ROMNEY SAYS THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES DO NOT PUT PEOPLE TO WORK
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE HAVE NOT MADE PROGRESS WE NEED TO MAKE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'MY PLAN WAS TO HAVE DETROIT GO THROUGH BANKRUPTCY'
*ROMNEY SAYS BANKRUPTCY IS A PROCESS TO GET PEOPLE BACK ON FEET
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA'S 'DETROIT ANSWER IS WAY OFF THE MARK'
*ROMNEY SAYS OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION ARE DOWN ON FEDERAL LANDS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I BELIEVE IN OUR RENEWABLE CAPABILITIES'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'HOW IN THE WORLD DID PRES. SAY NO TO PIPELINE?'
*ROMNEY SAYS COAL JOBS AND PRODUCTION ARE NOT UP
*ROMNEY SAYS NO ONE BELIEVES OBAMA WILL PUSH FOR ENERGY JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL FIGHT TO CREATE MORE ENERGY' IN THE U.S.
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL DRILL OFFSHORE IN ALASKA AND VIRGINA'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I DON'T HAVE A POLICY TO STOP WIND JOBS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'MIDDLE INCOME TAX PAYERS HAVE BEEN BURIED'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WANT TO BRING RATES DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD'
*ROMNEY SAYS THE TOP 5% OF THE TAX PAYERS 'WILL STAY THE SAME'
*ROMNEY SAYS NO LONGER WILL 'YOU PAY TAX ON YOUR SAVINGS'
*ROMNEY SAYS NO TAXES ON INTEREST/CAPITAL GAINS FOR MIDDLE CLASS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I AM NOT LOOKING TO CUT TAXES FOR WEALTHY PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS JOBS ARE GOING BECAUSE OF OBAMA'S POLICIES
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA TALKS ABOUT MY PLAN IN A WAY THAT IS FOREIGN
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BALANCE BUDGETS'
*ROMNEY SAYS AS GOV. TRIED TO FIND WOMEN TO BE IN MY CABINET
*ROMNEY SAYS I REALIZE IF YOU HIRE WOMEN YOU NEED FLEXIBLE SKED
*ROMNEY SAYS HELPS TO ADAPT TO FLEXIBLE WORK SCHEDULE FOR WOMEN
*ROMNEY: EVERY WOMAN IN U.S. SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTIVE
*ROMNEY SAYS PRES.BUSH HAD A DIFFERENT PATH FOR A DIFFERENT TIME
*ROMNEY SAYS IF YOU ELECT OBAMA 'YOU GET REPEAT OF LAST 4 YRS'
*ROMNEY SAYS THIS PRESIDENT 'CAN'T DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA 'DOESN'T UNDERSTAND' HOW TO CREATE JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA IS 'GREAT AS A SPEAKER' AND DESCRIBING VISION
*ROMNEY SAYS WE WELCOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AS IMMIGRANTS
*ROMNEY SAYS WE SHOULD GIVE GREEN CARDS TO PEOPLE WITH SKILLS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NEED TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'
*ROMNEY SAYS WON'T GRANT AMNESTY TO THOSE WHO COME ILLEGALLY
*ROMNEY SAYS THE E-VERIFIED PART OF ARIZ.LAW IS A NATIONAL MODEL
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ROUNDING UP PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS MY INVESTMENTS ARE HANDLED BY BLIND TRUST
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA IS RIGHT 'THE BUCK DOES STOP AT HIS DESK'
*ROMNEY SAYS MANY DAYS PASSED BEFORE WE KNEW IF THIS WAS PROTEST
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW' REASONS BEHIND BENGHAZI ATTACK
*ROMNEY SAYS DAY AFTER BENGHAZI OBAMA FLEW TO FUNDRAISERS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'THIS WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK' NOT DEMONSTRATION
*ROMNEY SAYS LOOK AT THE SPACE BETWEEN 'US AND ISRAEL'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA'S POLICIES IN MIDDLE EAST WERE 'APOLOGY TOUR'
*ROMNEY SAYS IT TOOK OBAMA 14 DAYS TO CALL BENGHAZI TERRORISM
*ROMNEY SAYS I AN NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING CERTAIN GUNS ILLEGAL
*ROMNEY SAYS I DON'T WANT TO BRING ANY NEW GUN LEGISLATION
*ROMNEY SAYS 'TWO PARENT FAMILIES' MAKE POVERTY RATES GO DOWN
*ROMNEY SAYS GREATEST FAILURE OF ADMINSTRATION WAS FAST&FURIOUS
*ROMNEY SAYS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FAST AND FURIOUS
*ROMNEY SAYS THE ASSAULT WEAPON BAN IN MASS. WAS BI-PARTISAN
*ROMNEY SAYS TRICKLE DOWN GOV'T WON'T CREATE MORE JOBS IN U.S.
*ROMNEY SAYS TRICKLE DOWN GOV'T HAS NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS NOT PLAYED BY RULES' CURRENCY MANIPULATE
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA REFUSES TO LABEL CHINA A CURRENCY MANIPULATOR
*ROMNEY SAYS CHINA TAKES UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OF MANUFACTURING
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL BE STRICT WITH PEOPLE WE TRADE WITH'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMACARE HAS BEEN REASON COMPANIES ARN'T HIRING
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS BEEN CHEATING OVER THE YEARS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS BEEN STEALING OUR IP'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HACKS INTO OUR COMPUTERS'
*ROMNEY SAYS GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I CARE ABOUT 100% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD'

OBAMA:

*OBAMA SAYS 'WE NEED TO BE CREATING JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'I WANT TO BUILD MANUFACTURING JOBS' IN THE U.S.
*OBAMA SAYS 'NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BEST EDUCATION SYSTEM'
*OBAMA SAYS 'HAVE TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT' TO INVEST IN EDUCATION
*OBAMA SAYS 'ROMNEY HAS A ONE POINT PLAN'
*OBAMA SAYS PLAN HAS THOSE ON TOP 'PLAYING BY DIFFERENT RULES'
*OBAMA SAYS 'MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO CONTROL OUR OWN ENERGY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'OIL IMPORTS ARE AT LOWEST LEVELS IN 16 YEARS'
*OBAMA SAYS WE HAVE ABOUT 600K JOBS THAT CAN COME FROM ENERGY
*OBAMA: ROMNEY'S PLAN 'TO LET OIL COMPANIES WRITE ENERGY POLICY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'VERY LITTLE OF WHAT GOV. ROMNEY SAYS IS TRUE'
*OBAMA SAYS ALL OF A SUDDEN ROMNEY IS A CHAMPION OF ENERGY
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE STARTING TO BUILD MORE EFFICIENT CARS'
*OBAMA SAYS WITH ROMNEY'S POLICY WE COULD BE IN FINANCIAL MESS
*OBAMA SAYS 'MY TAX PHILOSOPHY IS SIMPLE'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WANT TO CONTINUE TAX CUTS ON MIDDLE CLASS'
*OBAMA SAYS 'THE WEALTHY DO A LITTLE BIT MORE' ON PAYING TAXES
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S ALLIES IN CONGRESS ARE HOLDING 98% HOSTAGE
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY AND I 'JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT THEORY' ON TAXES
*OBAMA SAYS 'TOP DOWN ECONOMICS' WON'T WORK FOR EVERYBODY
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY 'CAN'T TELL YOU' WHAT LOOPHOLES HE WILL CLOSE
*OBAMA SAYS THE COST OF WHAT ROMNEY WANTS TO DO IS ABOUT $8T
*OBAMA: ROMNEY IDEAS 'BIG BIRD & DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S TAX PLAN DOES NOT ADD UP
*OBAMA SAYS ONE OF THE FIRST BILLS I SIGNED WAS LILY LEDBETTER
*OBAMA SAYS LILY LEDBETTER ACT IS NOT WOMEN'S ISSUE,FAMILY ISSUE
*OBAMA DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A POCKETBOOK ISSUE
*OBAMA:ROMNEY FEELS OK HAVING WASHINGTON DECIDE ON WOMEN HEALTH
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN I STARTED 'WE CAME IN DURING HARD TIMES'
*OBAMA SAYS 'YOU ARE LAST PERSON WHO WILL GET TOUGH ON CHINA'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY IS DIFFERENT THAN BUSH
*OBAMA SAYS BUSH NEVER SAID TO STOP PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING
*OBAMA: BUSH UNLIKE ROMNEY WAS IN FAVOR OF IMMIGRATION REFORM
*OBAMA SAYS OBAMACARE IS SAME HEALTHCARE PLAN AS ROMNEYCARE
*OBAMA SAYS 'TALENT FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD WANT TO COME HERE'
*OBAMA SAYS WE NEED TO FIX A BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM
*OBAMA SAYS IF WE 'GO AFTER' ILLEGALS, GO FOR CRIMINALS
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SAID HE WOULD 'VETO THE DREAM ACT'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY BELIEVED IN SELF-DEPORTATION AND ARIZ. LAW
*OBAMA SAYS 'MY PENSION IS NOT AS BIG AS YOURS GOV. ROMNEY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE HAVEN'T SEEN REPUBLICANS SERIOUS ON IMMIGRATION'
*OBAMA SAYS 'NOBODY IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT DIPLOMATS THAN I'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WHEN FOLKS MESS WITH AMERICANS WE GO AFTER THEM'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY PUT OUT PRESS RELEASE AFTER BENGHAZI
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S RELEASE WAS POLITICAL NOT PRESIDENTIAL
*OBAMA SAYS IN TERMS OF BENGHAZI'WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED'
*OBAMA SAYS SEC. CLINTON HAS DONE GREAT JOB,BUT SHE WORKS FOR ME
*OBAMA SAYS DAY AFTER BENGHAZI ATTACK, I SAID THIS WAS TERRORISM
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SUGGESTION WE PLAY POLITICS IS OFFENSIVE
*OBAMA SAYS NO ONE ON OBAMA TEAM WOULD PLAY POLITICS OR MISLEAD
*OBAMA SAYS THAT HE CALLED ATTACK TERROR THE DAY AFTER BENGHAZI
*OBAMA SAYS AMERICA HAS LONG TRADITION OF HUNTING, PROTECTION
*OBAMA SAYS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO NOT GIVE CRIMINALS GUNS
*OBAMA SAYS WEAPONS FOR SOLIDERS SHOUDLN'T BE ON STREETS
*OBAMA SAYS HE WANTS TO LOOK INTO ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
*OBAMA SAYS AUTOMATIC WEAPONS SHOULD BE OUT OF CRIMINAL HANDS
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WAS FOR ASSAULT WEAPON BAN BEFORE AGAINST IT
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SAID HIRING TEACHERS DOESNT GROW ECONOMY
*OBAMA SAYS GOV. ROMNEY AND I BOTH WANT TO LOWER CORP.TAX RATES
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE ON PACE TO DOUBLE OUR EXPORTS'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S COMPANY INVESTED IN PIONEERS OF OUTSOURCING
*OBAMA SAYS THERE ARE SOME JOBS THAT WON'T COME BACK TO AMERICA
*OBAMA SAYS 'I WANT HIGH WAGE, HIGH SKILL JOBS' IN AMERICA
*OBAMA SAYS 'I DON'T BELIEVE GOV'T CREATES JOBS'
*OBAMA SAYS 'I ALSO BELIEVE EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE FAIR SHOT'
*OBAMA SAYS THERE IS DIFFERENT VISION ABOUT MOVING U.S. FORWARD
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S 47% ARE VETS, STUDENTS, MIDDLE CLASS

 

Word-clouds to come... to break the tie...

Obama - 7,651 words (seemed to like talking about Governor (62x) Romney (43x), Jobs, Got Going, and Country)

 

Romney - 8,006 words (People, Get Going, Four Years, Jobs, Want)

 

So - the results are in:

  • Time - Obama
  • Drinking Game - Romney
  • Word-Count - Romney

The Winner Is: Mitt Romney