Debate Post-Mortem: Jobs-4-Jeremy, Gang Bangers, And Candi(e)d Fact Checking

Tyler Durden's picture

Well, who knew it was gonna actually get close to fisty-cuffs? According to CNN Polls, 65% believe Obama won (with 50% saying by a lot) and 19% that Romney won by a lot. Obama dominated speaking time 44:05 to a mere 40:50 for Romney (almost the same margin as in the last debate); but Romney (somewhat ironically) crushed Obama in the drinking game 44:23. Obama Intrade Odds wavered during the debate ending marginally higher but S&P 500 futures are tracking lower. Twitter interest fell 30% from the first debate. Full Bloomberg Headlines and Top Ten Debate Lines below. Obama uttered a brisk 7651 words for a 173 word/min pace (172 last debate) while Romney's 8006 words  were spoken at a 196 word/min pace (slower than his 217 pace of the last debate) but still the winner. So, time: Obama, drinking-game: Romney, word-count: Romney - the winner of tonight's debate is Mitt Romney.

 

The Ten Best Debate Lines (via Politico)

ROMNEY:

  1. “When do you graduate? 2014. When you come out in 2014, I presume I’m going to be president. I’m going to make sure you get a job.
  2. “When we’re talking about math that doesn’t add up, how about $5 trillion of deficits over the last four years. That’s math that doesn’t add up.”
  3. “We took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. I went to a number of women’s groups and said, ‘Can you help us find folks.’ And they brought us whole binders full of women.”
  4. “You shouldn’t have to hire a lawyer to figure out how to get into this country legally.”
  5. “The president took Detroit bankrupt. You took General Motors bankrupt. You took Chrysler bankrupt. So when you say that I wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did. And I think it’s important to know that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on their feet so they could start hiring more people.”

OBAMA:

  1. “Gov. Romney doesn’t have a five-point plan; he has a one-point plan.
    And that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different
    set of rules.”
  2. “When he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considers themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about: folks on social security who have worked all their lives; veterans, who sacrificed for this country; students, who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams but also this country’s dreams; soldiers, who are overseas fighting for us right now; people who are working hard every day.”
  3. “We haven’t heard from the governor any specifics beyond Big Bird and eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood in terms of how he pays for that.”
  4. “I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours, so it doesn’t take as long.”
  5. “Gov. Romney was a very successful investor. If somebody came to you, governor, with a plan that said, ‘Here, I want to spend $7 or $8 trillion and we’re going to pay for it but we can’t tell you until maybe after the election how we’re going to do it.’ You wouldn’t have taken such a sketchy deal and neither would you, the American people.”

 

Twitter Interest fell notably:

 

 

CNN Poll:

Time In The Game:

  • Obama 44:05 Minutes
  • Romney 40:50 Minutes

Winner: Obama

 

Drinking Game Stats (via @DebateDrinking) -

Winner: Romney

 

Bloomberg Headlines:

ROMNEY

*ROMNEY SAYS STUDENTS HAVE MORE DEBT ON THEIR BACKS THAN BEFORE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'JOBS HAVE BEEN TO SCARCE'
*ROMNEY SAYS THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES DO NOT PUT PEOPLE TO WORK
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE HAVE NOT MADE PROGRESS WE NEED TO MAKE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'MY PLAN WAS TO HAVE DETROIT GO THROUGH BANKRUPTCY'
*ROMNEY SAYS BANKRUPTCY IS A PROCESS TO GET PEOPLE BACK ON FEET
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA'S 'DETROIT ANSWER IS WAY OFF THE MARK'
*ROMNEY SAYS OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION ARE DOWN ON FEDERAL LANDS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I BELIEVE IN OUR RENEWABLE CAPABILITIES'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'HOW IN THE WORLD DID PRES. SAY NO TO PIPELINE?'
*ROMNEY SAYS COAL JOBS AND PRODUCTION ARE NOT UP
*ROMNEY SAYS NO ONE BELIEVES OBAMA WILL PUSH FOR ENERGY JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL FIGHT TO CREATE MORE ENERGY' IN THE U.S.
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL DRILL OFFSHORE IN ALASKA AND VIRGINA'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I DON'T HAVE A POLICY TO STOP WIND JOBS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'MIDDLE INCOME TAX PAYERS HAVE BEEN BURIED'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WANT TO BRING RATES DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD'
*ROMNEY SAYS THE TOP 5% OF THE TAX PAYERS 'WILL STAY THE SAME'
*ROMNEY SAYS NO LONGER WILL 'YOU PAY TAX ON YOUR SAVINGS'
*ROMNEY SAYS NO TAXES ON INTEREST/CAPITAL GAINS FOR MIDDLE CLASS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I AM NOT LOOKING TO CUT TAXES FOR WEALTHY PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS JOBS ARE GOING BECAUSE OF OBAMA'S POLICIES
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA TALKS ABOUT MY PLAN IN A WAY THAT IS FOREIGN
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BALANCE BUDGETS'
*ROMNEY SAYS AS GOV. TRIED TO FIND WOMEN TO BE IN MY CABINET
*ROMNEY SAYS I REALIZE IF YOU HIRE WOMEN YOU NEED FLEXIBLE SKED
*ROMNEY SAYS HELPS TO ADAPT TO FLEXIBLE WORK SCHEDULE FOR WOMEN
*ROMNEY: EVERY WOMAN IN U.S. SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTIVE
*ROMNEY SAYS PRES.BUSH HAD A DIFFERENT PATH FOR A DIFFERENT TIME
*ROMNEY SAYS IF YOU ELECT OBAMA 'YOU GET REPEAT OF LAST 4 YRS'
*ROMNEY SAYS THIS PRESIDENT 'CAN'T DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA 'DOESN'T UNDERSTAND' HOW TO CREATE JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA IS 'GREAT AS A SPEAKER' AND DESCRIBING VISION
*ROMNEY SAYS WE WELCOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY AS IMMIGRANTS
*ROMNEY SAYS WE SHOULD GIVE GREEN CARDS TO PEOPLE WITH SKILLS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NEED TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION'
*ROMNEY SAYS WON'T GRANT AMNESTY TO THOSE WHO COME ILLEGALLY
*ROMNEY SAYS THE E-VERIFIED PART OF ARIZ.LAW IS A NATIONAL MODEL
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ROUNDING UP PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS MY INVESTMENTS ARE HANDLED BY BLIND TRUST
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA IS RIGHT 'THE BUCK DOES STOP AT HIS DESK'
*ROMNEY SAYS MANY DAYS PASSED BEFORE WE KNEW IF THIS WAS PROTEST
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW' REASONS BEHIND BENGHAZI ATTACK
*ROMNEY SAYS DAY AFTER BENGHAZI OBAMA FLEW TO FUNDRAISERS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'THIS WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK' NOT DEMONSTRATION
*ROMNEY SAYS LOOK AT THE SPACE BETWEEN 'US AND ISRAEL'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA'S POLICIES IN MIDDLE EAST WERE 'APOLOGY TOUR'
*ROMNEY SAYS IT TOOK OBAMA 14 DAYS TO CALL BENGHAZI TERRORISM
*ROMNEY SAYS I AN NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING CERTAIN GUNS ILLEGAL
*ROMNEY SAYS I DON'T WANT TO BRING ANY NEW GUN LEGISLATION
*ROMNEY SAYS 'TWO PARENT FAMILIES' MAKE POVERTY RATES GO DOWN
*ROMNEY SAYS GREATEST FAILURE OF ADMINSTRATION WAS FAST&FURIOUS
*ROMNEY SAYS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FAST AND FURIOUS
*ROMNEY SAYS THE ASSAULT WEAPON BAN IN MASS. WAS BI-PARTISAN
*ROMNEY SAYS TRICKLE DOWN GOV'T WON'T CREATE MORE JOBS IN U.S.
*ROMNEY SAYS TRICKLE DOWN GOV'T HAS NEVER WORKED ANYWHERE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS NOT PLAYED BY RULES' CURRENCY MANIPULATE
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA REFUSES TO LABEL CHINA A CURRENCY MANIPULATOR
*ROMNEY SAYS CHINA TAKES UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OF MANUFACTURING
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WILL BE STRICT WITH PEOPLE WE TRADE WITH'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMACARE HAS BEEN REASON COMPANIES ARN'T HIRING
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS BEEN CHEATING OVER THE YEARS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HAS BEEN STEALING OUR IP'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HACKS INTO OUR COMPUTERS'
*ROMNEY SAYS GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE JOBS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I CARE ABOUT 100% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD'

OBAMA:

*OBAMA SAYS 'WE NEED TO BE CREATING JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'I WANT TO BUILD MANUFACTURING JOBS' IN THE U.S.
*OBAMA SAYS 'NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BEST EDUCATION SYSTEM'
*OBAMA SAYS 'HAVE TO REDUCE OUR DEFICIT' TO INVEST IN EDUCATION
*OBAMA SAYS 'ROMNEY HAS A ONE POINT PLAN'
*OBAMA SAYS PLAN HAS THOSE ON TOP 'PLAYING BY DIFFERENT RULES'
*OBAMA SAYS 'MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO CONTROL OUR OWN ENERGY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'OIL IMPORTS ARE AT LOWEST LEVELS IN 16 YEARS'
*OBAMA SAYS WE HAVE ABOUT 600K JOBS THAT CAN COME FROM ENERGY
*OBAMA: ROMNEY'S PLAN 'TO LET OIL COMPANIES WRITE ENERGY POLICY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'VERY LITTLE OF WHAT GOV. ROMNEY SAYS IS TRUE'
*OBAMA SAYS ALL OF A SUDDEN ROMNEY IS A CHAMPION OF ENERGY
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE STARTING TO BUILD MORE EFFICIENT CARS'
*OBAMA SAYS WITH ROMNEY'S POLICY WE COULD BE IN FINANCIAL MESS
*OBAMA SAYS 'MY TAX PHILOSOPHY IS SIMPLE'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WANT TO CONTINUE TAX CUTS ON MIDDLE CLASS'
*OBAMA SAYS 'THE WEALTHY DO A LITTLE BIT MORE' ON PAYING TAXES
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S ALLIES IN CONGRESS ARE HOLDING 98% HOSTAGE
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY AND I 'JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT THEORY' ON TAXES
*OBAMA SAYS 'TOP DOWN ECONOMICS' WON'T WORK FOR EVERYBODY
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY 'CAN'T TELL YOU' WHAT LOOPHOLES HE WILL CLOSE
*OBAMA SAYS THE COST OF WHAT ROMNEY WANTS TO DO IS ABOUT $8T
*OBAMA: ROMNEY IDEAS 'BIG BIRD & DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S TAX PLAN DOES NOT ADD UP
*OBAMA SAYS ONE OF THE FIRST BILLS I SIGNED WAS LILY LEDBETTER
*OBAMA SAYS LILY LEDBETTER ACT IS NOT WOMEN'S ISSUE,FAMILY ISSUE
*OBAMA DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A POCKETBOOK ISSUE
*OBAMA:ROMNEY FEELS OK HAVING WASHINGTON DECIDE ON WOMEN HEALTH
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN I STARTED 'WE CAME IN DURING HARD TIMES'
*OBAMA SAYS 'YOU ARE LAST PERSON WHO WILL GET TOUGH ON CHINA'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY IS DIFFERENT THAN BUSH
*OBAMA SAYS BUSH NEVER SAID TO STOP PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING
*OBAMA: BUSH UNLIKE ROMNEY WAS IN FAVOR OF IMMIGRATION REFORM
*OBAMA SAYS OBAMACARE IS SAME HEALTHCARE PLAN AS ROMNEYCARE
*OBAMA SAYS 'TALENT FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD WANT TO COME HERE'
*OBAMA SAYS WE NEED TO FIX A BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM
*OBAMA SAYS IF WE 'GO AFTER' ILLEGALS, GO FOR CRIMINALS
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SAID HE WOULD 'VETO THE DREAM ACT'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY BELIEVED IN SELF-DEPORTATION AND ARIZ. LAW
*OBAMA SAYS 'MY PENSION IS NOT AS BIG AS YOURS GOV. ROMNEY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE HAVEN'T SEEN REPUBLICANS SERIOUS ON IMMIGRATION'
*OBAMA SAYS 'NOBODY IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT DIPLOMATS THAN I'
*OBAMA SAYS 'WHEN FOLKS MESS WITH AMERICANS WE GO AFTER THEM'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY PUT OUT PRESS RELEASE AFTER BENGHAZI
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S RELEASE WAS POLITICAL NOT PRESIDENTIAL
*OBAMA SAYS IN TERMS OF BENGHAZI'WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED'
*OBAMA SAYS SEC. CLINTON HAS DONE GREAT JOB,BUT SHE WORKS FOR ME
*OBAMA SAYS DAY AFTER BENGHAZI ATTACK, I SAID THIS WAS TERRORISM
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SUGGESTION WE PLAY POLITICS IS OFFENSIVE
*OBAMA SAYS NO ONE ON OBAMA TEAM WOULD PLAY POLITICS OR MISLEAD
*OBAMA SAYS THAT HE CALLED ATTACK TERROR THE DAY AFTER BENGHAZI
*OBAMA SAYS AMERICA HAS LONG TRADITION OF HUNTING, PROTECTION
*OBAMA SAYS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO NOT GIVE CRIMINALS GUNS
*OBAMA SAYS WEAPONS FOR SOLIDERS SHOUDLN'T BE ON STREETS
*OBAMA SAYS HE WANTS TO LOOK INTO ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
*OBAMA SAYS AUTOMATIC WEAPONS SHOULD BE OUT OF CRIMINAL HANDS
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WAS FOR ASSAULT WEAPON BAN BEFORE AGAINST IT
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SAID HIRING TEACHERS DOESNT GROW ECONOMY
*OBAMA SAYS GOV. ROMNEY AND I BOTH WANT TO LOWER CORP.TAX RATES
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE ON PACE TO DOUBLE OUR EXPORTS'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S COMPANY INVESTED IN PIONEERS OF OUTSOURCING
*OBAMA SAYS THERE ARE SOME JOBS THAT WON'T COME BACK TO AMERICA
*OBAMA SAYS 'I WANT HIGH WAGE, HIGH SKILL JOBS' IN AMERICA
*OBAMA SAYS 'I DON'T BELIEVE GOV'T CREATES JOBS'
*OBAMA SAYS 'I ALSO BELIEVE EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE FAIR SHOT'
*OBAMA SAYS THERE IS DIFFERENT VISION ABOUT MOVING U.S. FORWARD
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S 47% ARE VETS, STUDENTS, MIDDLE CLASS

 

Word-clouds to come... to break the tie...

Obama - 7,651 words (seemed to like talking about Governor (62x) Romney (43x), Jobs, Got Going, and Country)

 

Romney - 8,006 words (People, Get Going, Four Years, Jobs, Want)

 

So - the results are in:

  • Time - Obama
  • Drinking Game - Romney
  • Word-Count - Romney

The Winner Is: Mitt Romney

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Tsunami Wave's picture

"Obama won by a lot (50%)" CNN... hah of course they'd think that.

Crtrvlt's picture

They, the people polled by CNN, thought Romney won last time

spastic_colon's picture

Obama could have farted his words and the media would say he won, it is a complete set up for him to have all the "media momentum" going into the last days before nov 6

nope-1004's picture

So, anyone know what the hell we're voting for?  What's the difference between these two placards?  I see a dark skinned one, and an old gray one -- two sides of the same bank-bitch coin, that's all.

 

Total.Phucking.Facade.

No one "won".... we're all losers for being led by such incompetence.

 

James_Cole's picture

I thought they were actually going to come to blows at one point, oh to dream.

Next election the debates should be replaced by MMA cage matches. We can assume well enough whichever two candidates are running their polices will be the same so why not get right into it? 

Who wants it more??

AlaricBalth's picture

Did anyone catch the irony when Obama accused Romney of " investing in companies that are building surveillance equipment for China to spy on its own folks."

It was stated as if Obama was shocked that a government could have the audacity to spy on its citizens. Made me ill.

I suppose he forgot a certain Executive Order Janet Napolitano sent over from DHS for Obama to sign authorizing enhanced cyber-surveillance against US citizens.

James_Cole's picture

I found it especially ironic when the other politican accused that politician of not being honest with the American people when it was clear that they weren't being honest with the American people. The sad thing is my politician was the honest politician but everyone thinks the other politican was the honest one. 

Oh gawd I drank a lot during that debate. 

The winner of the debate is really easy, anyone playing the drinking game. 

zhandax's picture

What do you expect when you watch 'Merica try to pick which turd will shine up the prettiest.  Damn sheep!  I am not ashamed of my country; I am ashamed of the idiots who inhabit it.  What happened to the laws which mandated that you don't vote unless you have 'skin in the game'?  /rhetorical

dark pools of soros's picture

Is twitter bankrupt yet? Or is it going to be turned into a public works like the sewer? I rather see people's shit than most of their thoughts

jeff montanye's picture

two excellent points in succession above.  

it is tragically funny that obama could ever use another country's police state tactics as a point of critique when he has, uniquely in our history, openly claimed the right to assassinate u.s. citizens far from a battlefield on his own executive order immune from appeal or challenge of any kind

they, romney and obama (or obama and bush), do blur one into the other based on policy and degree of mendacity, even without intoxication.

UGrev's picture

Ron Paul won that shit, hands down. 

azzhatter's picture

I imagined Ron Paul pushing back on Obama and asking why he feels it's okay to spy on Americans

Helvetico's picture

Hey, there's a still a chance for Ron! If only you could get his message out there, I think the American people would eat up his confused, inarticulate old man act. 

Ben Dover's picture

I know that manoa mano approach worked for us back in the 80's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA

All Risk No Reward's picture

Oh, they know exactly what they are doing.  The fact you've fallen for their Sun Tzu Art of War tactic shows how good they are at what they do.

“Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.“
~Sun Tzu, Art of War

jus_lite_reading's picture

It looks as if only user "nope-1004" and a few others actually "get it." There is no "two party system." These "candidates" are different puppets with the same masters, and YOU are the slaves! This political meandering is nothing but more of the same old dog and pony show to keep the sheep asleep and preoccupied, while the real action that is deciding your "fate" is taking place behind the scenes...

The fact of the matter is, there are no winners in this years election, only losers. The corporate greed that has defined America has already killed the patient. ZHer's all supposedly know that Uncle BEnron is looking out only for the interests of the banksters and will do anything in his "unlimited power" to maintain the status quo no matter WHO GETS ELECTED so what are you arguing about?

You should be concerned about special lobby groups deciding your fate and looking out for the interests of big corporations (Follow the MONEY!!)

You should be concerend about the toxic genetically engineered food that you are consuming and WHY big corps like MonSatan are lobbying and spending HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS to pevent YOU from knowing what products contain GMOs.. (You are what you eat... should you have the RIGHT TO KNOW?)

You should be concerned about your freedoms being erroded in the name of "nationa| security", about your right to choose, about why your nation is really going to war (hint: $$$$ and Z!0N!$T$)

You should be concerned about the rising taxes, flat pay and the increasing unemployment... (the Postal Service, Social Security Syetem, etc etc are insolvent. How will they fix them?)

You should be concerned about the devaluing of the ponzi dollar and what it means for your lifestyle... (you didn't think gas was $4.29 because the world is running out of oil or because demand is up so much because the global eCONomy is so strong, did you?)

You should be concerned about tax monies ill-spent and misallocated and why the wealthy get away with paying less tax than you while you struggle to survive and argue over which candidate "won" the debate...

Did any of the candidates address these issues? 

It's already GAME OVER...

Mathematically, the entire world must go into a hyperinflationary phase in order to maintain some sort of status quo until they can't.... and then as history has it, war followed by some new form of gubmint... perhaps the mythical NWO...

You are not living the Twilight Zone... you are all in HELL

 

Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture

"you are all in HELL"

Nearly there, but the music hasn't stopped quite yet.  The U.S. has put itself in a position where a world-war event is the only outcome, but the "when" is whenever they feel like it.  My sense is that they're waiting for post-election.  In the meantime, for drinking game supplies, the 1:1 or more stocking rule applies, liquor will be "good as gold" in a barter environment, and it's easy and cheap to store, and has a long shelf life. 

A Nanny Moose's picture

This is the best we have to offer.

5551212's picture

I think Obama did burp during his comment on guns. That was pretty funny.

BeaverFever's picture

I thought that I heard Candy Honey Cruller let one rip halfway through the fake debate.

If that woman isn't a biscuit shy of 400 pounds I'll eat my hockey stick.

Monedas's picture

A fat woman can fart and even she won't know about it .... unless some of the aromatic gas works its way to the surface .... a couple of minutes later !     www.fartfax.com

augustusgloop's picture

to quote obama, 'that's not true.' media likes to make it a horse race, to pick up what little is left of ratings. btw, i think the pink lady, the times, reported that romney 'won' the last joke of a debate. 

FEDbuster's picture

The third debate should be changed to a three round match in the Octagon.  Let the two old guys fight MMA style, more people would watch and the same amount of information would be presented.

In fact, make it a PPV event with all proceeds going to deficit reduction.

James_Cole's picture

Opps, sorry FEDbuster you were ahead of me on this. After tonights debate it's a no brainer. 

donsluck's picture

How about ALL the candidates. And make it written, with the moderator simply reading the replies to the "debate" questions.

zhandax's picture

For all the difference in the two, you could give the election to whoever pisses higher on the west wall of the white house after a beer conference.

Stoploss's picture

That's what you get when you pile 82 retards in a room...

Then make the fatal mistake of allowing them to speak.

 

There is your American education system for all to see in it's fucked up glory...

 

 

GetZeeGold's picture

 

 

Thank you AFL-CIO......any word of Jimmy Hoffa yet?

donsluck's picture

Education is run by the states. They have vastly different results. Most of the problem is a few very bad parents producing kids that suck up all the time in the classroom. This is an argument for free abortions on demand.

jeff montanye's picture

your analysis is excellent, imo, both on the minority of children (often but not, in my experience, exclusively from bad parents; life can be so puzzling) taking up class time and the efficacy of free abortion to reduce many social problems at minimal expense, especially when coupled with good care for wanted children.

ACP's picture

I find it interesting how CNN had to change the character of the survey. I wonder why they did that?

Monedas's picture

Eireann go broke !      Feces smeared walls 17 - Dead parade horses 11 - Dead band fags 7       www.obamasrealfather.com

Monedas's picture

When the shit smears on the walls are only 4 feet high .... IRA Leprechauns !

Helvetico's picture

Don't you mean Kenya 1- Mexico 0? You don't really think Mathias Ramirez's certificado de nacimiento is verdadero, do you? 

yt75's picture

Romney is so ridiculous on energy (and Obama almost the same), quite "funny" ... :

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy52/TheDudePeakOil/USCrudeOilProduct...

GeezerGeek's picture

Obama-Crowley 50%, you meant to say? Of course I have the advantage here of having heard Crowley admit she was wrong on the Libya/terrorism putdown of Romney.

The Rs should insist on equal time and have Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity or Mark Levin be a moderator.

I'd like to see Gary Johnson posing the questions.

BigInJapan's picture

I watched the 1st debate streamed from CBC.

In live polling, 77% of Canadians believed Obama had won the debate... It sickened me.

"Won by a lot". Is there a "Won by a lot" app on those Obamaphones?

 

 

e-man's picture

The most surprising part of the debate was that CNN is still on the air.

Clever Name's picture

If you can stomach them at all, I recommend watching on CSPAN.

vast-dom's picture

Romney again wipes the floor with Obama (note: i detest both sides). 

 

The entire election hinges on borderline catatonic sheeple -- no intelligent person could vote for this.

It's both amusing and disturbing how many IQ points both candidates must drop in order to address these guests. I feel dumber after suffering through this debate.

Tijuana Donkey Show's picture

The entire election hinges on rigged voting machines in key states. and the sheeple are catatonic, there is no borderline.

vast-dom's picture

little does it matter if voting machines are rigged when the entire system is patently rigged.

vast-dom's picture

before you hem and haw re: only total fucktard sheeple vote this election, take a watch:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKguI0NFek

 

maybe you suck and not the politicians = fuck hope. 

blunderdog's picture

      maybe you suck and not the politicians = fuck hope.

Fucking hope's a great idea, but there's no "either/or" here.  The politicians HAVE TO suck if the voters suck. 

They're voters.

Monedas's picture

George Carlin in dead !   Monedas lives !

All Risk No Reward's picture

They don't need to rig voting machines when they rig the candidate selection process.

Tails they win, heads we lose.

Lucy isn't the idiot for pullin the ball away, Charlie Brown is the idiot for continuing to try and kick that field goal.

It's as though Charlie Brown is calling Lucy a stupid idiot for pulling the ball away as Lucy laughs at the dupes.

We have to elevate our mental game.

Cursive's picture

@vast-dom

Wiped the floor? I kept waiting for Mittens to do something impressive and explain to people that mogas is higher because of inflation. He could have spoken to problems that lower and middle class people have, but he just talked about drilling. Complete whiff.