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Will Obama Strike Libya In Delayed Pre-election War?
Speaking on conditions of anonymity, four administration officials have commented that they are actively seeking a target and readying strike forces and drones as retribution for the Sept 11 attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi. As AP reports, if the administration does find a target, officials say it still has to weigh whether the short-term payoff of exacting retribution on al-Qaida is worth the risk that such strikes could elevate the group's profile in the region, alienate governments the U.S. needs to fight the group in the future and do little to slow the growing terror threat in North Africa. The efforts show the tension of the White House's need to demonstrate it is responding forcefully to al-Qaida, balanced against its long-term plans to develop relationships and trust with local governments and build a permanent U.S. counterterrorist network in the region. The verbal rhetoric is escalating from Biden's last year comment that "if you do harm to America, we will track you to the gates of hell if need be." to "If America hits us, I promise you that we will multiply the Sept. 11 attack by 10," said Oumar Ould Hamaha, a spokesman for the Islamists in northern Mali. U.S. officials say covert action is more likely.
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A drone strike spike!
this is absurd... The U.S. is actively funding al-cia-duh in the Syrian invasion... and now claims it is getting ready to bomb the same people in Libya? read between the lines, the Libyan people are revolting, and are attempting to overthrow the ZATO mercenaries that took over their country.... all hell is about to break lose across Africa and the ME.
PetroDollar under serious pressure..................
ExxonMobil not getting their way in Libya??? WTF?
From AllAfrica...
Despite the 230 security situations in Libya, international oil companies were back in business so that by the end of September 2012, Libya was producing 90 per cent of its pre-NATO intervention output. In fact more oil was now being pumped out than in the month immediately prior to the start of the NATO war. Foreign companies had been trooping back into Libya with BP being the last to arrive in May. Even without the hundreds of thousands of foreign workers, the stability of the exportation of oil had driven foreign companies to focus on who would be in control of Benghazi, especially after the noisy declaration of autonomy by the militia/political leaders in February.
US oil companies did not want to be left behind in this new insensate struggle, hence US diplomatic efforts were now directed at Benghazi. Christopher Stevens had been appointed ambassador of the United States to Libya in January 2012 and arrived in Tripoli in May. When the uprisings had started in February 2011 and the French philosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy was going into Benghazi to mobilize support for French interests, Chris Stevens was one of the first US diplomatic personnel to be on the ground in Benghazi.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201210121033.html
Need free oil to pay back debt...
Need free oil to pay back debt...
Need free oil to pay back debt...
Abstatively.
We've made the target enemy for the next segment of the Long War ..
Which will be on and off, hot and cold, forever.
Operative word: forever
Until a new enemy is created to carry on once this one becomes "stale".
That's a certainty.
Just as is Maxine Waters (Dumb as a Rock, CA) taking over as the ranking Dumocrap on the House Financial Service Committee.
Pray for us now in the hour of our need.... for this has become soooo fucked up as to almost be unbelievable.
That'll be fun to watch!
Actually, not. It would be fun in a movie.
don't they all look the same..........................
Lybia is a problem not only for the West. The Arab League is trying to convince the president to leave the government and call for general elections. Lamentblemente, when these governments feel cornered, they become extremists, trying to find some allies. Obviously, I do not think that war with Libya is a solution to these problems. However, it is very likely to continue to see violence in the Middle East.
I did not have sexual relations with that raped-to-death Ambassador
He was raped to death in Bunggazhi
Old bugghazers "work" history is typical.
Some "prestigious" law school, then a CATO institute type spell, then some skullduggery in Libya, then Ambassador then this.
And why do they choose compromisable/compromised commies for such jobs anyways?
/rhetoric
Whatever they do, you bet they gonna talk about it on MSM 24/7 before the election and how Obama is tough!
Yet during his 3+ years in power he was only proficient at "strong rubukes".
This desperate search for any goat-fucker/scapegoat to bomb/fuck reeks of IMPOTENCE.
. . . and Clinton already bombed the aspirin factory, so that's out.
no, no, no and Hell NO
"as retribution for the Sept 11 attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi."
ummm I don't think there was a consulate in Benghazi. But I suppose if media keeps printing it, eventually it will be true.
The ambassador apparently had just met with a diplomat from Turkey the night he got killed. The mind wonders what they could have been meeting about ( logistics in moving men to turkey to fight in syria).
There was no security there because the US and NATO were to a point on the same side as the terrorists, but this shows you can't control mongoloids forever.
Don't be such a tin-foil-hatter. They were probably following up on this wonderfull use of tax payer dollars:
http://libya.usembassy.gov/news-events/news-from-the-embassy2/the-americ...
Immediately after the attack, the Dept of State's very own web site did not list Benghazi as a location of any US embassy, consulate or other official office.
Maybe that's been changed, now.
Ah I love the smell of Redacted History in the morning.
A consulate is nothing more than a representative of a government in another nation on a diplomatic mission, generally not in the capital city (or it's called an embassy -- the building the embassy/mission is located in is called a chancery BTW.)
The U.S. had a diplomatic mission stationed in Benghazi, not a capital city, hence a consulate. These change constantly and government websites, like most, are notoriously inaccurate. Just yesterday I learned that my fucking bank and my favorite chain restaurant had closed locations up to four years ago and hadn't updated their sites. What do you expect from the gubmint?
There are plenty of "conspiracy theories" that are real. Why make up some petty new one, devoid of any factual basis to say the least? Just to "one-up" your intellectual betters at zh? Good luck.
A helluva a lot of regular posters here would serve the zh site better to actually read the articles, then post something insightful to add to it, and stop trying to find petty "errors" with it -- it's almost always mere sophistry if even that. Unfortunately, the few who call these little morons out, rarely post here for long. They quickly realize what a bunch of mostly dipshits post here.
But I guess some sissies aren't getting enough hugs from mommy and daddy and desperately need green arrows. Fucking pathetic.
Unless you're looking for a free Obamaphone, US government websites are outdated & unreliable. The shit they are LEGALLY REQUIRED to update and publish by specific dates doesn't even get done on time.
"ummm I don't think there was a consulate in Benghazi."
ummm, I think you've got a sophistic dick up yer ass.
Of course there's a consulate in Benghazi. By definition.
For a very good explanation of what denotes a diplomatic mission, an embassy, or a consulate, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission
Or in a nutshell, a diplomatic mission is a group of representatives of a state (or group of states) present in another state. When it is permanent and in the receiving state's capital city, it is commonly called an embassy. When it is a sub-office of that, in another city that isn't the capital (Benghazi), it is called a consulate. America had a diplomatic mission (a group of representatives of the U.S.) in Benghazi. Ergo, a consulate.
I wonder if the multiple me-too morons who up-arrowed you believed you, or are just as angry at zh as at everything else around them? Fucking sheeple. I used to be a little surprised when Tylers would pounce on posters at times with highly disparaging (though well-deserved) remarks, because after all, zh has bills to pay and why drive off a few fast-clicking morons? Clearly, they simply don't have the time, especially to argue with brokedick losers with nothing in their arsenal but petty, schoolyard word games. You know, the "I'm rubber and you're glue" crowd.
"Where the fuck is the Romney election HQ in Libya...HIT IT!" - BarryO
"Is that the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade? Hit that sucker!"
BJ Clinton 5/7/99
Crap that was embarrassing.
The alternative proved more embarrasing
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/02/10/Iran_sent_pink_drone_to_Obama/
How many called this before NATO used airstrikes and al quaeda to topple gaddafi. Post Gaddafi Libya is a failed state run by terrorists. BenGhazi was matter of factly identified by west point academy as a terrorist hot zone in 2007 and NAto teamed up with them. They are now funneling them to Syria..
Sow the Wind, Reap the whirlwind. Now you bomb the guys who have NATO paystubs.
Are we at war with Eastasia? no, they have always been our ally....
Sean Hannity called it.
don't be a hater...just answering the question...
That's one name not used in polite company.
His defense of 'enhanced interogation' made me puke.
The quintessimal hypocrite of our times.
As they are threatened all the time with drone strikes, what on earth is the thinking here.
Truly , the 'best and brightest' at work.
Wag the dog(part deux).
We are so phucked.
So we're about to put figher jets against a well-entrenched "frenemy" that now has 20,000 new, US-made and provisioned shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles? This should be interesting.
But did we not invade Lybia once all ready, who knows, we have invaded 32 countrys since WWII, after a while it gets a bit foggy.
It would be shorter and simpler to list the countrys that we haven't invaded.
Hmmm, I thought we put al Qaeda on the US payroll. I need a program to keep track of who the 'new' bad guys are.
I nice pre-election attack by King Putt ought to be enough to earn him another Nobel Peace Prize, methinks.
Oh ~ so now the propaganda stunt is to threaten an attack, then feed some spook on the CIA payroll named Oumar Ould Hamaha the payback line"
"If America hits us, I promise you that we will multiply the Sept. 11 attack by 10," said Oumar Ould Hamaha, a spokesman for the Islamists in northern Mali... (essentially ~ trying to still get people to believe that it was goatherders who were responsible for 9/11)...
Gotta keep up people... Gotta keep up...
'Oumar Ould Hamaha'... where the fuck do these spooks come up with these names anyway?... Do they have a whole department at Langley dedicated to Scrabble players?... Well Oumar ~ I have news for you ~ If you retailate, we're going to go fish Bin Laden out of the Indian Ocean & kill him again (rolls eyes)...
As i said to the wife after 7/7 in London.
Mustapha McManus did it.
under the direct orders of the infamous Emanuel Goldstein
I read the 9/11 reference as 9/11/12. not 9/11/01.
Funny ~ I saw it the other way around... Nevertheless ~ the dates are interlinked... Sadistic fucks seem to LOVE that date... It'll never go away ~ even after it has been exposed to broad daylight...
~~~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
mind control... that is how it works... repeat the lie often enough and......
"If you retailate, we're going to go fish Bin Laden out of the Indian Ocean & kill him again"
Don't laugh! You don't have to fish bin laden out of the ocean. You don't think we'd drag his body out of the compound only to dump it in the ocean, do you? He escaped! The reason they wouldn't release the photos of him is because he was actually alive. Word is, he was picked up by a passing freighter.
Here is a video of him describing his escape (he's using codename "Nigel" and wearing a blonde wig)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1FOR3L0VKg
Ever been to either Mali or Langley?
Thought not.
Both the IAs and Toyota Taliban come up more plausiblr BS.
Sir! We can't squeeze the October surprise into whats left of October!
Will Hillary strike Bill for getting her into this mess?
Dontcha just love the fall she's taking for the fuckup?
Bet she'll be vehemently anti-His Highness once the election is over.
Like ever so public and loud.
LOL
Love watching them eat themselves.
"If America hits us, I promise you that we will multiply the Sept. 11 attack by 10,"
9/11 times 1000? Where have I heard that before...
Great idea to tell your enemy you plan to attack them soon so go someplace else quick before you get hurt. Or, is this just more chatter in the wind to
keep up the terrorism/blow it up news?
A touch off topic but...I would be very interested to know what Hillary Clinton received/will receive in return for stepping up as the Libyan scapegoat (taking all of the responsibility to deflect criticism from Obummer).
Hopefully ~ a face transplant... Have you seen pics of her lately?
Oscar Wilde had her nailed: The Picture of Doreen Gray.
I think she gets a box of cigars.
Answer: She's hoping for lots of pizzas and candy.
she gets to pick what gets bombed next.
That can't bode well for Bill! LOL!
The best head she has ever had, I mean Bill league stuff, a tongue lashing she so richly deserves...
So now Barry Soetero is going to bomb the same people that NATO are using to "liberate" Syria, oh the irony...
That's requirement #7 for a second Peace Prize
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It's in the manual for a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Win the award - THEN bomb the ever-loving crap out of people globally.
You can't make this shit up any more, you just can't. And to think that grown up people will discuss this in cocktail bars and coffee shops, f@cking sheeple!
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.hk/search/label/Syria
Just drop some bombs where we are delivering the weapons.
Ain't that tough.
pods
Sure why not, NATO sends in it's proxy forces to take a nation down then uses that as excuse to officially put boots on the ground later. Just like the NATO backing of insurgents in Syria. As to the Orwellian nature of it, the average American has no idea. Live in Idiocracy world, if Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho ran for president he would dominate. So why wouldn't they, it's not like the public has any idea what is going on, so long as the beer, fast food, and tv are on they are happy as pigs in shit.
Completely my opinion but that is why marines were not sent in to bolster security at the embassy. "we will not have boots on the ground in Lybia" Could go either way for public opinion. Now we can have boots since they attacked our ground. We need to get the fuck out of the middle east no cash no troops no support and no opinion.
The only thing Obama is weighing is whether an attack is going to help or hurt his reelection chances.
The US american middle class gets to be seduced.
Riiight, like "seducing" a hooker ... with your wallet and a gram or 5 of coke.
That must be the "short term gain" referred to in the article. Killing people for political gain...isn't that.....terrorism?
The great thing is that they can kill whoever they want. They could be militants, bakers, flower shop owners, women,children. It doesn't matter, because they are terrorists if the US government says so.
Me thinks The Supreme Charismatic should make another "The View" appearence and ask for Whoopi's insight. Hell, maybe even Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey can give The Supreme Charismatic some helpful pointers.
It's beginning to appear that being on the View and choosing between Minaj and Carey are both above his pay grade.
Look the fuck out, all unsuspecting Libyans minding their own business. Our fucked up child President, has a shit load of drones and some hopped up special forces coming your way very soon to fuck each and every one of you up; in order to save a dying campaign!
Why can't the US kick the military people out of the US. Have them stay in Europe or somewhere. Then they can put the military up for bid like the mercinaries they are. That way none of the simple minded would try to draw the conclusion that it is the US Americans instead of the Globalist Crimminal NWO bankster M'Fers that are attacking people everywhere.
This reminds me of the story when French PM Sarkozy sent his military operations team into Africa for a spectacular mission blowing up supposed pirates as they were trying to escape. For the short term he personally enjoyed fantastic support among the French people. The facts that came out later proved the military action was mostly all charade.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/somali-pirates200904
The question remains about the assassination of our ambassador-- "who dunnit" . It's been reported that Stevens was an arabist who spoke arabic, advocated an embassy in Iran and sought true American interests in the region rather than pander to AIPAC. So it was likely a mossad operation to get rid of a skilled diplomat who actually represented American interests in the ME, and humiliate Obama at the same time.
Barry is enough of a humiliation without any help. Sarko was an overcompensating showman, but it's not like the precious was threatened in Somalia, unlike Cote d'Ivoire (where the L.E., Starbucks, Keebler Elf triumvirate intervened) .
Our war is a spiritual war
So Obama's gonna bomb 'THE FILMMAKER'........unless of course he lied about WHY the embassy was attacked. It wouldn't be retaliation by loyalists would it?
I thought the banksters and Monsanto were using the US mercinaries to take Libya's deepwater port and going to use the Al-Queda guys to attack the US to activate marshall law in the US.
Strange article to that the quoted authors twist everything up according to the bankster cartel agenda. ZH did good job.
F_A_L_S_E___F_L_A_G___!!!!!
Libyan War I went well.
Libyan War II was ok.
What can go wrong with Libyan War III?
i hear there is a big arab wedding that looks like a good target for a drone..or maybe a funeral procession if the wedding is called off..so many targets so few drones. peace is war war is peace.
Libyans need to realize that years ago what happened to the US embassy was grounds for a war. And I mean a real war, not the drone and missile attacks from afar. Their idle threats are a joke. Any meaningful response from Libya would surely result in an escalation multipled by 100. Tell the Libya people to watch some WW II footage please.
its danger, my bet is your 10 or 11 y.o. right?
LOL...I agree--drones and missiles are for pussies. We should send a couple of hundred thousand Christian subhumans over there to get their legs blown off for nothing--now THAT would be funny. Onward Christian soldiers! Fight the good fight, you fucking monkeys...
What, what is this.....?
Obama said this was all because of a video tape on youtube. He couldn't have been wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQFl80hPNNg
LOL...it's so much fun watching the U.S. slowly collapse. Drones do make it less entertaining, however; I would much prefer it if a couple of hundred thousand tattooed retards from Jesusland were shipped over there to die for nothing, but oh, well--you can't have everything!
a "slow collapse" lol
Verb
collapse
1. (intransitive) To fall down suddenly;
Rome didnT fall in a day...
Sorry, but "collapse" is a relative term. When your time frame is the history of the earth or the universe, the fall of Rome occurred in the blink of an eye. In human terms, however, the collapse was slow. Just like the collapse of the United States...
you are a religious bigot. it makes me sick when people lump all muslims together and think they are terrorists. you just did exactly the same but attacked christians. you should be ashamed.
You should probably take your complaint to someone who gives a shit.
if the white house was serious about this:
it would abolish CIA
How has this behavior worked out for the Crips and Bloods. Gang warfare doesn't really profit except the weapons supplier.
It keeps the lower level members motivated and loyal to their tribe. Kinda like the other two red and blue gangs, Dems and Repubs.
"I love the smell of Napalm in the morning !" More likely he was savoring the morning shit house fires ! Every morning the Viet Namese "Mamasans" would lift the latrine service hatches and drag out the cut off steel drums of "funny honey" .... mix a few gallons of diesel into the stew and set it afire ! Napalm was used later in the day .... during engagements with the enemy .... and was more volatile and burned off relatively fast .... without the complex fragrances of the shit house fires in the still morning air near the fire bases ! Atte: Committee for historical accuracy in Hollywood
Stevens and the other men were to be kidnapped...not killed. The kidnappings were to be Obamas election guarantee. Al Qaeda was suppose to make videos of Stevens and the other men...Horrify the sheeple here in America and Obama was going to send in his seal team to save the day and win re-election...BUT, his paid Al Qaeda mercenaries gave Obama a big ole F-U and killed Stevens and the other men.
Oh that's twisted -- could well be true though.
I'm very much afraid that you retain some traits of your namesake. That's NOT how it went down at all. This was the fog of war, quite literally. To put that much faith in the attackers (your conspiratorial al-Qaida) is quite remarkable. This is essentially an ungoverned country at present. There are many other factions represented by militias in Libya, notably those still loyal to the Qadaffi regime/tribe (because evrything is tribal in Libya, something this administration either forgot or never knew). It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that the Obama administration did NOT anticipate this turn of events in any way, nor were they concerned with it at all. This includes Hillary, who threw herself under the bus today, presumably to save O. The internal ongoings of an ancillary bureau such as Diplomatic Security, however desperate their calls for help, were clearly of no issue, despite the fact that it is now the largest bureau in the department (due to cuts in Defense aid)...
Arrrr go fuck yourself!
lol
"We will show these extremists we hired a couple months ago to topple Ghadafi what we're made of!"
Prez O'Butthead isn't doing anything, they are still searching for targets. LOL! The targets left after the poorly guarded consulate got overrun, shithead!
In Libya soldiers can just shit in the sand .... like cats .... then kick some dirt over it !
Sec of State Clinton has been blowing off peace and smack talking war since DAY ONE. Now her Agency gets a shot right between the eyes...and her answer is "I take full responsibility"? Al Qaeda has EXPLODED in size and strength under this feckless Administration..."and I take full responsibility"?...?????. Is there any choice but to respond with MASSIVE force now? Obviously not. The only question that needs answering is "who's going to lead that response." Move along....move along...
massive force? WTF man, this is empire games, divide and conquer. Stop drinking the kool-aide. Al Queada is a symptom, not the disease.
The entire "War on Terrorism" is a war against both a tactic and a symptom, neither a real enemy nor a real disease. Never before in the history of mankind has a "war" been waged against a tactic, let alone a symptom.
Are you sure Al Qaeda got bigger? Or is it that every group of Arabs or Muslims that won't play ball with the U.S. gets labeled Al Qaeda?
Hillary Clinton Admits US and Al-Qaeda On Same Side in Syria
http://www.infowars.com/hillary-clinton-admits-us-and-al-qaeda-on-same-s...
Clinton Announces al-Qaeda as Legitimate Government of Libya
http://www.infowars.com/clinton-announces-al-qaeda-as-legitimate-governm...
Al-Qaeda Terrorists Airlifted From Libya to Aid Syrian Opposition
http://www.prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-terrorists-airlifted-from-libya-to-...
and for the Who's Who of Al Qaeda:
http://www.infowars.com/syrian-oppositions-amazing-cia-credentials
Al-CIA-duh R US
... shirley, not from a president with a nobel peace prize under his belt?
shirley, if Krugmann can have a Nobel Prize, then why not Obama?
I love watching...... Weak in People in Glass Houses, Ooops, WhiteHouses
Remember, governments never lie. They're all just misinformed.
Larry Silverstein is gonna make 50 billion and 10 buildings will collapse from debris? Can we really find 20 countries to invade at this point?
Obama's addiction to late-night drone porn may win out here. However, nothing compares to 1) the death of the petro dollar on the international stage and 2) the behind-the-scenes war for the world's stolen gold reserves.
Time for some homework kids. Read the current installments of "How it Could Happen" here (now at part 2):
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/
The fictional sceanrio concerns how the US could collapse as an imperial power and is centered on Tanzanian oil, but the process being described could play out just about anywhere.
A very interesting account.
9/11 X 1000 = 818.1818 Oh hell, more magic number crap!
After obama gets his ass kicked in tonights debate we will begoing to war tomorrow tochange the messaging
The standard is anyone who's Muslim who resists the US is referred to as Al Qaeda. This is to keep it simple for folks. God forbid they try to pronounce the names of any of these other groups or people.
Foreign policy is all about narratives and domestic politics. These people do as they damn well please and only pause when they think people will notice.
While I totally agree with your characterization of the knee-jerk al-Qaida reaction, at least these days, I take some issue with the rest. Much of current US foreign policy is derived from Samuel Huntington's "The Clash of Civilzations," a policy wonk and baby Bush favorite (and, if truth be told, one of mine, but for different reasons--I look at history in a much longer framework than a politician does). There has really been no reset since Obama took office in terms of policy (and, if truth be told, not since Clinton's second term), most of which was thrashed out by the neocons ages ago.
There have been bells and whistles--Hillary's constant coming and going to places she's barely heard of, and understands little--much to the palpable disgust of many of her 60,000 "family" members, a majority of whom are subject matter experts, who are almost never consulted any more. That is a change, and not for the better. Secretaries until Clinton understood the magisterium of their power, at least to some degree, and purposefully declined to go anywhere until something had been concluded to our benefit, by the appropriate underling; the trip was to SEAL the agreement. Hillary appears to think she's the chief negotiator--much to her detraction.
lessee - -
the "chancery" in Benghazi was a house guarded by Libyans with walkie-talkies?
In Fucking Libya???
But the ambassador was such a cute guy - just like the guy "next door". Just happened to be new on the job. Such a shame!
And it all went down on a 9/11 aniversary.
What a Fucking Coincidence!!!
Wake the fuck up!!!
Got to hand it to 'em - they ran that con PERFECTLY!!!