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Forget the day-to-day images of riots and protests, the truth on the ground in Greece is far harsher. Just as we warned numerous times, social unrest is escalating rapidly and the extremists are gaining strength and power. One of Greece's neo-nazi Golden Dawn party MPs says "there is already civil war, and Greek society is ready - even though no-one likes this - to have a fight." The BBC's Paul Mason reports on recent demonstrations surrounding the performance of a controversial play as tensions escalated and the Golden Dawn party "de-arresting" demonstrators - pulling them from police detention, as the police do nothing. The somewhat shocking clip below points out the incredible reality that is occurring on the streets of Greece - even as EU leaders claim Greece was not a topic at the EU Summit. The people ask "if we are in a democracy or a dictatorship?" and Golden Dawn (which has 18 seats in parliament) proclaims "On the one side there will be nationalists like us, and Greeks who want our country to be as it used to be; and on the other side illegal immigrants, anarchists and all those who have destroyed Athens several times." As Mason concludes: the social and political outcome of the IMF and EU austerity program, and of the implosion of mainstream politics in Greece, looks like a catastrophe for democracy.

Here is the clip of the theatre riot and Golden Dawn abuse "Wrap It Up You Little Faggots. You Albanian Assholes"

 

The full 'must watch' BBC video is not embeddable, but worth viewing, so click image for link:

 

Via The BBC: Alarm at Greek police 'collusion' with far-right Golden Dawn

Are Greek police colluding with far-right Golden Dawn?

 

Greece's far-right party, Golden Dawn, won 18 parliamentary seats in the June election with a campaign openly hostile to illegal immigrants and there are now allegations that some Greek police are supporting the party.

 

"There is already civil war," says Ilias Panagiotaros. If so, the shop he owns is set to do a roaring trade.

 

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"Greek society is ready - even though no-one likes this - to have a fight: a new type of civil war," he says.

 

"On the one side there will be nationalists like us, and Greeks who want our country to be as it used to be, and on the other side illegal immigrants, anarchists and all those who have destroyed Athens several times," he adds.

 

You hear comments like this a lot in Greece now but Ilias Panagiotaros is not some figure on the fringes: he is a member of the Greek parliament, one of 18 MPs elected for the far-right Golden Dawn in June's general election.

 

Theatre attack

 

...Last week he led a demonstration that closed down a performance of the Terence McNally play, Corpus Christi.

 

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"Wrap it up you little faggots. Yes, just keep staring at me you little hooker. Your time is up. "You Albanian assholes," shouts Mr Panagiotaros in the YouTube clip.

 

Footage filmed inside the theatre, as rocks showered into its open-air auditorium, shows the manager making frantic calls to the chief of police, demanding protection from a mob that had begun to beat up journalists outside.

 

Other footage shows Golden Dawn MP Christos Pappas "de-arrest" a demonstrator, pulling him from a police detention coach, as the police do nothing.

 

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"People went home with broken bones. Every day they phone me now, they phone the theatre, saying: your days are numbered."

 

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They phoned my mother, Golden Dawn. They said we will deliver your son's body to you in a box of little pieces.

 

"I want to be told if we are in a democracy or a dictatorship?"

 

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I ask Mr Panagiotaros: how can it be right for a party in parliament to have a uniformed militia that takes on, violently, the role of law enforcement, checking papers and overturning market stalls? He explains:

 

"With one incident, which was on camera, the problem was solved - in every open market all over Greece illegal immigrants disappeared.

 

"There was some pushing and some fighting - nothing extraordinary, nothing special.

 

"Now, only with one phone call saying Golden Dawn is going to pass by, the police is going there. That means the brand name of Golden Dawn is very effective."

 

He confirms the party's strategy is to force police action against migrants and to claim their right to make citizens' arrests against those they suspect of criminality.

 

"It's like fashion - our dress code is now extremely popular and more people want to follow it. The brand name is synonymous with order, law and order and efficiency."

 

And if it projects fear among perfectly legal migrants? I ask.

 

"There are no legal migrants in Greece," says Mr Panagiotaros "not even one."

 

Now Golden Dawn is suddenly everywhere. Its eight local offices at election time have become 60 nationwide. It is polling consistently as the third most popular party at 12%.

 

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"Rest assured we stand by the citizens and we try to prevent such situations.

 

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And the issue driving support for Golden Dawn is clear: illegal migration.

 

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"Golden Dawn is at war with the political system and those who represent it, with the domestic and international bankers, we are at war with these invaders - immigrants.

 

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"If the European Commissioner for Human Rights, the European Parliament, the Greek parliament don't intervene in this situation I am afraid to think what's going to happen. Europe must do something if they don't want a revival of the Third Reich again."

 

Close up, in other words, the social and political outcome of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and EU (European Union) austerity programme, and of the implosion of mainstream politics in Greece, looks like a catastrophe for democracy.

 

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Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:58 | 2900997 redpill
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Gyros uber alles!

 

No seriously, went to the Mad Greek the other day and I had forgotten how good those little bastards are.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:59 | 2901026 Gully Foyle
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Are they Nazis who dress like Neo?

Are they Nazi replicants who are all Neo clones?

Are they Neo's who traveled back in time and became Nazis?

Are they Nazis who travelled forward in time and became Neo's who then travelled back in time only to be stuck in the wrong timeline?

Are they all Mr.Smith copies merely impersonating Neo?

Who owns the rights to this mess and how will they collect on the royalties?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:05 | 2901037 redpill
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Mr Panos for President!

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:12 | 2901060 walküre
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Quasi Panos Konstantinopolous apprehended before he could commit an act of terrorism on the Fed

Coming soon to a Fed building in your area.

The list of potential enemies is growing daily. Soon the whole world will be deemed an axis of evil. Someone should get a Nobel prize for that. Oh wait, that prize is from a Norwegian. Are they still friendly?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2901097 malikai
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A marxist would say it is inevitable that the police would collude with the Fascists, as the Fascists promise the "Capitalists" can keep their riches, while the "Socialists" would promise to take it away.

The irony is that the status quo in Greece is a "Socialist" party.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:42 | 2901154 greased up deaf guy
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exhibit a for the nobel peace prize winning eu.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:14 | 2901288 icanhasbailout
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Tell me when the Nobel Peace Prize winners come to realize that drowing nation after nation in foreign immigrants who share not the language, culture, nor customs of the host is a problem.

 

Golden Dawn is a reaction to this global fascist system which has been engineering entire nations for the purposes of financially exploiting them.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:00 | 2901519 Treeplanter
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The goat fuckers say they will make Europe submit to Islam.   The effete EU establishment is creating Golden Dawn.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2901098 Rubicon
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The fat bloke has a point.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:40 | 2901158 caconhma
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Cool down everybody!

Take it easy. EU just got a Nobel Prize for promoting Peace & Democracy.

After all, it becomes more and more obvious that the zionist banking mafia is about to bring Europe to early 1930s. In the front of your eyes, the EU "democracy" is being transformed into a fascist democracy. After all, A. Hitler was elected and loved by the overwhelming majority of German people.

PS

It easy start a war (any war: economic, military, cultural, etc.,) but the consequencies are always unpredictable.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:45 | 2901171 overmedicatedun...
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caconhma, the us citizens have bought arms at very historic numbers yet only one congress woman and one judge got shot in the last 4 yrs..it is not easy to start a civil war here..but give Obuma more time and who knows?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:05 | 2901262 caconhma
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It appears that, once again, Greece will bring a democracy to the people. After all, the Judea-Christian civilization brought people endless war and suffering.

Karl Marx was right after all: capitalism eventually has reached its final form (the banking controlled imperialism) and its final hours.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:33 | 2901717 caconhma
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How come all these American and EU zionist "democrats" and their controlled mass media are so strong about illegal immigrants rights in America and Europe but, at the same time, are against allowing millions of Palestinians to return back to their homeland in Palestine?

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 15:50 | 2902315 Harbanger
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Not all Progressives are Zionist.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:56 | 2901218 fightthepower
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Why should Greece allow illegal immigrants?  The people are only doing what the government won't do.  Greece for the Greeks!

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:41 | 2901405 Harbanger
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In the US they tell us the illegals are only doing what the Americans won't do.  Get back to work bitch!

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:15 | 2901927 BattlegroundEur...
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Yes. so why are there so many Greek fucks in my country now?

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:36 | 2901376 Ident 7777 economy
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caconhma:

 

"Cool down everybody!

Take it easy. EU just got a Nobel Prize for promoting Peace & Democracy."

 

 

 

They always award those things posthumously, don't they?

 

(Well, THEY DID THIS TIME.)

 

 

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:32 | 2901120 magpie
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Zorba Chrysse Auge-Drachmapopolos arrested at ECB building

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:40 | 2901157 overmedicatedun...
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coming election in US, if mit wins it might delay violence, if Obuma wins..civil war is very possible in his next term.

DHS didn't buy all that ammo and domestic drones for paper weights.. they know the pot is starting to boil.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:47 | 2901437 walküre
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you get the drift

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:53 | 2902069 conspicio
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Interesting little near-future sci fi book trilogy by John Shirley written largely in the mid to late 80s. "A Song Called Youth"

Shirley writes from a liberal position, but one could change a few terms and write the same thing from a conservative position. Either way, he'd still get it pretty close to right. Read it, you'll have fun when coming to ZH and realizing "Shit...this sounds just like that Shirley book..."

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:06 | 2901042 CPL
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Incoming digital life herd. 

Layer 3 gear going tits up again all over the place.  My MRTG is shifting red across the world.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:23 | 2901088 Mysteerious Roo...
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"...and how will they collect on the royalties?"

Thank Heaven for SOPA! It's all under control. Royalties are safe. Besides, there are drones now.

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:49 | 2901182 GOSPLAN HERO
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The German National Socialists (Nazis) in the 1930s ...

The Nazis had many disgruntled former commies in their ranks.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:33 | 2902015 m0w0g
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Mad Greek? 185th & West Union?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:52 | 2901004 101 years and c...
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that warrants the nobel peace prize just as madonna is like a virgin....touched for the 1,342,867th time....

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:53 | 2901005 frenchie
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i guess u don't know many albanians, kosovars, etc... huh ?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:54 | 2901007 Dr. Richard Head
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! Nobel Peace Prizes for EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:01 | 2901028 Gully Foyle
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Dr. Richard Head

I suggest you invest in a 3d printer to make your idea a reality.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:03 | 2901032 pods
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You have a reputation to uphold when you carry that moniker.

Maybe NATO should have received it instead?  They stopped the retreat of Gaddafi's peeps and low and behold they were captured, disarmed, beaten and executed.  More blood on our hands I guess?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/13247-report-exposes-more-war-crimes-by-obama-backed-libyan-rebels

Peace sells, but who's buying?

pods

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:16 | 2901066 disabledvet
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"just what We the People are making the world safe for" this time around is a good question. only asked here i might add...

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:23 | 2901323 hawk nation
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Please add if you are a one world government deciple or want to sit on your ass and have the government provide you all your basic needs

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:54 | 2901009 LaLiLuLeLo
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Albanians are assholes - they're all over NY pretending their Italians.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:05 | 2901039 Gully Foyle
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LaLiLuLeLo

Do you know why Italian men grow mustaches?

So they can look like their mothers.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 08:48 | 2903852 Ar-Pharazôn
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i am 100% sure you never been to Italy.

italian girls are freaking cute

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 08:55 | 2903874 nmewn
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Mamma Mia!!!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 04:01 | 2906125 Popo
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Please keep thinking that from your basement in Philly. I'll be hanging out with the serious talent in Rome, and the fewer Americans here the better.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:07 | 2901047 CPL
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Until they cook and have a wedding.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:25 | 2901048 Azannoth
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Albania is the Rectum of Europe just like Greece is it's Asshole(Anus) ;)

No wonder Greeks don't like what's comming their way from Albania

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 15:45 | 2902297 albanian
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soo wher ar you from ASSHOLE!!

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:57 | 2901017 frenchie
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btw i see nothing wrong kickin out a jewish "pièce de théâtre" mocking JC

or else let us also mock all the rabbis, talmudic shyte, bring it on regarding holohoax etc...

égalité ou pas ?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:02 | 2901030 Gully Foyle
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frenchie

Tell your masters that your post is far too transparent and you haven't earned your money.

Can you make the old guilt by association defamation of ZH any more obvious?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:27 | 2901102 Mysteerious Roo...
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Guilt?

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:44 | 2901169 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Same shiit coming here , when the gravy train whooa's up...

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:50 | 2901459 GottaBKiddn
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It's not politically correct to insult jews or muslims, but it's ok when it comes to christians.

When Golden Dawn says they are against the international bankers, ZH'ers would agree. But when they seek to punish gay albanian thespians they seem to not realize who made it possible for them to be there illegally.

How exactly are they going to punish the banksters? Did they beat up Angela?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:57 | 2901018 overmedicatedun...
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greeks waking up to that velvet boot on the neck called EU/austerity.. wish them luck can't fault golden dawn they are most likely a front set up by .gov

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:59 | 2901022 pods
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Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage.

This is what happens when things get tough.  Just wait till this happens in the US.  
There is a lot more rats in this cage.

pods 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:04 | 2901035 Gully Foyle
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pods

White people in the US don't riot unless it's after a sporting event.

No one gives a shit when the cops bust a few minority heads and take some dark skinned peoples lives.



Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:27 | 2901100 pods
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Well Gully I would actually agree with you on this.  

But it is also a case of normalcy bias.

Just because things have not gotten bad does not mean they won't.  The riots will not be organized at all.  And you are already seeing acts of rage, they are just being done to people close to them.

pods

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:36 | 2901135 knukles
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White people didn't riot when the God's Gift Messiah, His Highness of Salvation was elected.
Wondering what'll happen if he's not re-elected?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 10:59 | 2901024 magpie
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Reversal to the mean

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:00 | 2901027 kito
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Its all fine.....just part of the beautiful deleveraging.....carry on......

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:44 | 2901165 dwdollar
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The irony of course is that their attempt to create a beautiful deleveraging has actually made it 10x more ugly.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:03 | 2901034 Seorse Gorog fr...
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Greece is fukked. Game over.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:39 | 2902032 Peter Pan
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Actually game beginning.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:03 | 2901036 alien-IQ
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By "Neo-Nazi" do you mean to say NYPD?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:06 | 2901045 PUD
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EU's Rehn says he is confident about a positive conclusion on Greece

Says: 
- Conclusion of Troika report should be reached in early November. 
- Troika report to pave the way for Greek funding.

And clearly they did not see the earnings report from Polaris Industries that showed record sales of snowmobiles even as the Arctic went nearly ice free this year.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:07 | 2901046 Acet
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I'm surprised war or civil revolution hasn't broken out yet. Last time the economy was this bad (in the 1930's) the result was that Europe was covered with Fascist and Communist dictatorships.

Guess the only reason we're not there yet is that plenty of people here still remember how things were under those dictatorships. This is probably why the Greek Army hasn't done anything yet.

 

Then again, maybe revolutions have already broken out due to bad economic conditions ... in places like Egypt. People in there do have at least one ideology they can believe in: Islamic Theocracy.

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:10 | 2901054 Schlomo Bergstein
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Golden Dawn are an amazing party, they often give out free food to starving Greeks. How many times have the banker-run EU actually fed anyone?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:21 | 2901315 Ghordius
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yeah, sure. of the "here is a loaf of bread and a lollypop, now vote for me and do as I say or I'll smash your knees" kind

you seriously have no idea of the far-right, eh? as the writer here in the article:

"...but Ilias Panagiotaros is not some figure on the fringes: he is a member of the Greek parliament, one of 18 MPs elected for the far-right Golden Dawn in June's general election"

Hello? two words: multi-party elections. of course you have then the "fringes" in Parliament with multi-party electoral laws, otherwise you would not see UKIP's Nigel Farage in the EU Parliament, for example.

with multi-party electoral colleges in the US, you'd see a Libertarian Party in Congress, for example. Although you'd see a Socialist one (separate from the Democrats) too...

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 18:07 | 2902323 albanian
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Yes,they are amazing facktards  who thinks that all problems of greeks ar from refuges.y"right SCHLOMO f----.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:13 | 2901055 Blazed
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"social unrest is escalating rapidly and the extremists are gaining strength and power."

The extremists are already in power and have been for decades.

Hey Goyim, you need to flood your lands with third world populations and turn them into a chaotic cesspool. However, in Israel we can put tens of thousands of Africans and other third worlders in prison camps then deport them at will. Hey Goyim, do as we say, not as we do.

Straight from the horse's mouth, this hag should go live in Liberia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug

Meanwhile, Israel does what it wants.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/11/us-israel-africans-idUSBRE85A0...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/24/world/meast/israel-immigration-protest/

 

 

 

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:12 | 2901059 Sixdeuce062
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do i hear billy joels "we didnt start the fire" in the back round

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:15 | 2901063 Billy Shears
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Look, I'm not for Nazis or Fascists (or Greek) but Greece shoud be for Greeks and their "invited" guests (i.e. legal immigrants). All the chaos Greece is experiencing is a result of the central planners failed globalized scheme which is, in my opinion, ipso facto destabilzing both politically and culturally and probalbly by design.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:26 | 2901094 Buckaroo Banzai
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"...central planners failed globalized scheme..."

Hmmm. I think the scheme is proceeding exactly according to plan. Ordo Ab Chao, as they say. Which means you've got to start with the Chao.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:15 | 2901065 Oh regional Indian
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If this great and now screwed experiment in CIVIL-I-zation began there, there is a good place to look for signs of its' demise.

Is it any wonder that Gay rights and the whole rainbow movement is peaking too?

Someone wants everyone going Greek.

ori

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:17 | 2901068 Crtrvlt
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this is exactly how hitler and the nazi party came to power.  seems like history does repeat itself.  

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:19 | 2901072 bigrooster
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We need to start our own Golden Dawn party here in the US!

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:22 | 2901083 Crtrvlt
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it's called the tea party

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:28 | 2901103 Buckaroo Banzai
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Nice try fucknut. Get back to HuffPuff you libtard stooge.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:19 | 2901075 walküre
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Are Greek police colluding with far-right Golden Dawn?

If the police are colluding, you can be assured that the military or parts of the military are siding with these good patriotic and conservative people as well.

Troika may never return. Merkel is an arrogant hag to fly to Greece and trying to mend things. Just stop paying Merkel. Why won't you stop paying Merkel? Because your own fucking banks are bleeding like sheep at a kosher butcher? Running down from the head and spilling their blood all over the German ground?

Get real, Germans. Golden Dawn is your friend. Maybe the only real ally you'll ever know.

 

 

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:23 | 2901087 magpie
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They are there solely for the reason not to be 'salonfähig' for the EU, the German and Banking establishment.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 08:56 | 2903877 Ar-Pharazôn
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the japanese were the only real ally.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:25 | 2901093 Inthemix96
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Listen up my American friends.

This is Exactly what happens when our corrupt and bought off politicians face when they no longer look out for the good of their own people.  This is exactly what happens when said politicos ram multi-culturalism down the native populations throat.  This is exactly what said politicos never see as they live in guarded properties policed by their filthy lucre.  And all the while they ram this shit down of the throats of normal, hard working and in the most case good people.

How would you like your village or surrounding areas to be turned into third world shitholes?

These people in my own opinion have a point.  If the aparthied nation of isreal is allowed to have a land to call its home.  So do the fucking people of Greece.  This is what happens when the bastards who think they can get away with changing the face of a country to suit some sociallistic ghetto, get what they deserve.

Lets hope golden dawn direct a little vengence exactly where it is due, to the corrupt and downright dirty bastards who caused this.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:31 | 2901118 Buckaroo Banzai
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"Lets hope golden dawn direct a little vengence exactly where it is due, to the corrupt and downright dirty bastards who caused this."

Your position is not unreasonable, except for the fact that once the Golden Dawn gets into power (and it most likely will IMHO), you will probably be in for a few unintended consequences that you didn't bargain for.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:39 | 2901149 Inthemix96
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Buckaroo,

I am more than aware of that.  But you see, these past few years have taught me one thing.  The Greek civilasation is thousands of years old, my own is a good couple of thousand itself.  Cut to the chase, if the aparthied state of isreal is allowed a place for its people to call home without forcing multi-cultural bollocks down jews throats.  Greece, and any other nation is allowed that right.  They didnt have to do it this way but they did.  And thanks to the internet, it is there in black and white for all to see.  They have done this many thimes in past history.  Now even people like me can see it.

You reap what you sow friend, people are now awake.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:24 | 2901982 BattlegroundEur...
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You better stay in Greece. I don't want you lot in my country. Thanks.

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:41 | 2902036 Inthemix96
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battlegroundeur.....

No worries, I wouldnt put a foot in isreal if you paid me boyo.  You can keep your apathied state all to yourself.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:19 | 2902396 BattlegroundEur...
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I aint no jew .  Keep out of the UK.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 09:00 | 2903887 Ar-Pharazôn
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even worse than israel. british are the most arrogant idiots on this earth

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:27 | 2901099 Nottingham
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Golden Dawn is defending Greeks from attack.  Leftists hold the bigotry against Greece and Greeks.  I support Golden Dawn, I hope they succeed, and the BBC news report was so biased as to be laughably not credible.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:35 | 2901136 toms
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coming soon to a city in the USA...

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:34 | 2902016 Peter Pan
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You wish........but the reality is that the people of the USA have been placed into two prison camps..........Republican and Democrat.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:36 | 2901137 A POOR EATIN STEAK
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lol are people seriously supporting the greek nazi party on here

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:23 | 2901320 chet
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Occassionally you get a post like this where the ZH commentariat really shines its brightest.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:37 | 2901138 booboo
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"is this a Democracy or a Dictatorship"

Whats the fucking difference. DemoCrazy ain't all it's cracked up to be especially when the majority of the populace are ruled/represented by the energetic and smarter minority.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:37 | 2901141 MelvilleSaysNo
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More 'Nazi' hysteria.  The whole idea of globalism is breaking down, and if some Greeks want to rebuild their society based on their culture, heritage, ethnicity that's fine with me.  If they want to clean out Greece by kicking out the International Money Power and all of the anthropological garbage that slimed its way into their country, that's fine with me, too.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:39 | 2901155 trichotil
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nazis = joo bankster controlled opposition

greeks and albanians kill each other, chrome dome jew banksters profit

 

http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2012/02/problem-solving-leadership-observation.html

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:11 | 2902365 albanian
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Trichotil you"r 100% right.And i see allot of zhedgers komments who have not a facking idea, what they are toking about.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:48 | 2901186 Bicycle Repairman
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Who is financing Golden Dawn?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:57 | 2901226 Dareconomics
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When Greece first admitted that it had lied about its budget numbers in 2009, the main concern was that the banks holding Greek public and private debt would fail.

At this time, the world had just emerged from the post-Lehman panic, and a fragile recovery had begun to take hold in the markets. European leaders realized that allowing Greece to fail would pull under the banks. These are not just Greek institutions, but the largest financial firms in Europe. Deutsche Bank was rumored to be in the deepest.

All of the pain of austerity was not meant to help the Greek people but to bailout these banks. Greece has had three years of austerity and is not any closer to emerging from its five year depression.

The European politicians seem to think that they can continue calling the shots and maintain the status quo without any repercussions. Now, fascism is rearing its ugly head. Greece was governed by a military, fascist dictatorship into the 1970's, so these latest events should not be surprising.

The fascists are a minority, but they are a noisy minority. Consider the Arab Spring and Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood is a minority, but a loud and organized one. Secular democrats led the revolt against Mubarak, but the Islamists quickly took advantage.

The fascists in Greece are taking the same path. They are polling near 20%, and they seem to have infiltrated the police and the army. Considering Greece's history, a coup is becoming more and more likely.

A change in Greek governments whether by election or force will lead to an immediate default and revocation of the bailout terms. Then, what will have started in the Balkans will begin spreading to Europe and then the world.

dareconomics.wordpress.com

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:06 | 2901266 overmedicatedun...
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  darecon: if the fascists hold with the NWO nothing changes..greece is one example of the people vs the NWO elite, nobody talks about it in the MSM but people everywhere are waking up to the destruction the NWO elite have brought with them..this is WWIII fought with eyes wide shut.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:33 | 2901369 Bicycle Repairman
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"The fascists are a minority, but they are a noisy minority. Consider the Arab Spring and Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood is a minority, but a loud and organized one. Secular democrats led the revolt against Mubarak, but the Islamists quickly took advantage."

These pesky minorities, who's funding them?  They didn't just spring up out of the earth.  Making "noise" isn't free.  Getting arms, linking up with the police and miltary takes connections in high places. 

Who's arm is rammed up the asses of Golden Dawn and the Muslim Brotherhood?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:37 | 2901754 jtg
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The US and EU are aiding and abetting the Muslim Brotherhood. The West is stabbing itself in the back. It's suicidal, but it's true.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 15:16 | 2902181 Bicycle Repairman
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So the West is a monolith?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:00 | 2901236 arnoldsimage
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bain capital looking into golden dawn ipo.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:17 | 2901301 covert
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the problem rests within being tolerant to hostile foreigners.
http://covert.ias3.com/expose/

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:33 | 2901363 hawk nation
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I have alot of greek friends in america and almost all of them are hard working and relatively successful. I always ask them why greece is so fucked up and how can the greeks in greece be so different from the american greeks and they all say its a result of the expansion of the government sector. This expansion has destroyed their culture of working hard for a living and given rise to the entitlement society.

I see this coming to the USA and all the shit will hit the fan after the election

Central planning is evil no matter what nice term they want to give it. Give me the freedom of the individual in an equal opportunity society with the smallest government  possible to prevent anarchy

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:36 | 2901375 Oldwood
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Please forgive my ignorance here but why are we calling Golden Dawn fascists? I was under the impression that fascism was where government colluded with business to control the economy...more like the US. Or do we just call anyone who is a bully a fascist? While I wouldn't support their violence, I surely do understand their frustration where whether dealing with economic or immigration their government refuses to follow their own laws. We are all doomed to go Greek before long.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:38 | 2901383 AlphaHunter001
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these guys are a joke - i love the quote "Greeks who want our country to be as it used to be" - you mean fiscally irresponsible? Greece has defaulted on its debt numerous times sine the modern state was formed in the mid 19th century, the truth is that the current economy is exactly how Greeks have historically run a country! Of course, when an economy suffers it's the blame game

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:40 | 2901384 my puppy for prez
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According to some here, unless you open your borders wide and let the international bankers take over, you are a "dangerous Nazi type"!  My god...how simplistic can one be?

The "official story of WWII" is such bullshit that people wrongly characterize and typify present realities in childish, black/white, and I might add TRITE colloquialisms such as "Nazi", with no real foundation of truth to support those categorizations.

What most fail to acknowledge is that Communism's agenda is GLOBAL.  It was a creation of the globalists.  After the horror and tragedy of the Bolshevik Revolution, Germany knew that it was next!  The pre-war years were filled with communistic infiltration and subversion in all sectors of German society, from financial to cultural.  And of course, the Zionist bankers engineered it all, well before WWI.  Communism wouldn't have stopped in Russia, and Germany knew it all to well.

The communo-globalist banksters have just become more subtle today....they prefer to use much more quiet methods than military action, such as control of banking and economies.  But they won't stop there.  They prefer totalitarian tyrrany for the masses, and anarcho-capitalism for themselves.  

Some in Greece know this better than most Americans, and they are desperate to do something about it before it's too late.  

I think it a bit smug for those who still live in relative comfort to sit back in their armchairs and criticize the measures desperate people are taking in desperate times.  Will you, who criticize this Greek movement, gladly hand over the little freedom and ability to survive you have left to the wicked masters when they come for YOU?  

And they WILL come for YOU....just wait! 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:35 | 2901731 jtg
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You made good points until the Zionists zing. What is wrong with people that have a good perspective then go crazy abou the Jews, because you meant the Jews. Here we have the fatal weakness of many on the Right.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 02:46 | 2903586 Element
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What he's saying is born-out by numerous accounts and sources.  It is hardly an off-the-wall view, it's part of what occurred in Germany and in many other parts of Europe in the inter-war period.  The communists, who were funded and controlled by zionists, and were concerned with one thing alone, fermenting a united global social and political revolution.  Europe in the 1920s and 1930s was target numero-uno for fermenting that revolution, and the communists tried every trick in the book to create a propaganda-driven revolutionary discontent and atmosphere among workers, "the peoples". 

Hitler was in large part a reaction against this "communist plot" and "the international Jewish conspiracy", which documents show was entirely real and in full-swing at the time, and was indeed funded and driven forward by hardline Jewish/zionist backers, who also offered to fund the Nazis, as well! 

Difference was Hitler took their money but then didn't do their bidding.  Indeed, David Irving since provided clear documentary evidence that Jewish interests in Czechoslovakia were also funding Churchill, via paying off his huge personal debts, in order to gain geopolitical leverage over him (via City of London bankers in fact).  So all the major actors prior to WWII were seduced by and funded by zionist Jews, in much the same ways politicians are seduced and funded today by them.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:47 | 2901439 Totentänzerlied
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Greece will not become a fascist regime, Germans would not tolerate the irony, you see. Germany pulls the plug on Greece, IMF comes in and buys every productive asset and acre for pennies, mission accomplished. You might not want to live there, but that's been the case for how many centuries?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:48 | 2901445 ItsDanger
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I know for a fact the communists help people out when the police or government arent willing.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:29 | 2901698 jtg
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Sure, communists help by forging new chains go bind us, and they do it with a smile.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:51 | 2901463 my puppy for prez
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Pay close attention to the name who spoke these sobering lines (and NO, it was not from a member of Golden Dawn):

Marclis Eli Ravage, Century Magazine, 1926
"You have not begun to appreciate the depth of our guilt.
We are intruders. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest great war, but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone."

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:27 | 2901685 jtg
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The Ravage attack on the Jews is in its essense an attack on Judeo-Christian civilization. If you go down that path you end up attacking the very foundations of our civilization, and just being another member of the other marching morons on the Left and Right that are leading us to the edge of the cliff.

Progressives with some help from the Right have led us to the edge. Progressives will never critique themselves, they will make the same mistake again and again, a sure sign of insanity. No matter how many millions of deaths that are a direct result of their idealism they will try again with the same result. And when the people wake up in a violent manner, like in Greece, Progressives will demonize the Right, never critiqueing their role in bringing society to the edge.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:08 | 2902358 my puppy for prez
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"Judeo-Christian" is a canard and abject fallacy!  Judaism is TALMUDISM, and is NOT the religion of the Old Testament Hebrews, such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, or even Moses.  It is the religion of the PHARISEES!  Jesus condemned Talmudic Judaism constantly.  The Talmud is a vile, evil, racist, treacherous ideology that completely negates the Pentateuch and the Prophets.  It is the religion of ANTI-CHRIST.  If you are incredulous and confused by these factual statements, then you need to go read Michael Hoffman's "Judaism Discovered", or the shorter "Judaism's Strange God's".  He blows the lid off the deception that has been foisted upon the Christian church and the cultures that were founded on its priniciples.

Christianity was infiltrated and deceived by Talmudism centuries ago....yet Christians don't know their own history, and know even less about the true nature of Talmudism.

Guess what's behind progressivism:  Talmudic/Kabbalistic ideology!  

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:15 | 2902383 my puppy for prez
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Nothing above even remotely mentions attacking Jews.  Do you not realize that they have been the ones doing the "attacking" for centuries?  Infiltration and subversion of a culture is no different than an attack on said culture.  

To be wary of their influences and agendas is NOT synonymous to attacking.  Besides, transfer negotiations for the Jews were being had, but the Zionist bigwigs would have none of it, and there are actual quotes by Zionists stating that anti-Semitism and persecution would be their best friend, further advancing their objective of taking Palestine and doing the same thing to the indigenous people that they accused the Nazis of.  Uber-hypocritical, if you ask me.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:03 | 2904618 Element
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"The Ravage attack on the Jews is in its essense an attack on Judeo-Christian civilization. If you go down that path you end up attacking the very foundations of our civilization, ..."

 

Garbage.

The European "Renaissance Enlightenment", from about the 13th century was in fact a reaction against the degenerative aspects of Judeo-Christian cultural impositions (and lets not forget Inquisitions) in Europe, and it was the re-exertion of 'classical' (pre-Christian) European intellectual thinking, math, science, personal examination, and local-derived values and practices.

Science, technology and a steady spread of formal education, for all, and profound and deepening knowledge about the nature of our world was what came of this enlightened reaction against the dictates and oppression of extremist, regressive and corrosive Judeo-Christian excesses, within Europe.

There is no reason to think nor to assert that Judeo-Christian cult-ure was the basis for Western civilisation, when it clearly stood in the way of the re-exertion of the local 'classical' philosophy of thinking and inquiry that proved to be so radically successful and timelessly valid.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:59 | 2901501 debtor of last ...
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Take back your country and your culture, whatever it takes. Or become a colony of working slaves under corporate Brussels.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:06 | 2901556 Mad Mohel
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I think that fatboy is upset that someone tried to get seconds on the tzatziki sauce.

Seriously till they start gunning each other down like African miners, then it's all a bunch of baklava.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 19:04 | 2902850 Blanc swan
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"A mohel is a Jewish person trained in the practice of brit milah"

Well, how about that?

You got any opinion on the President of Israel saying that Israel is a "white man's country"?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:18 | 2904935 Mad Mohel
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BS, it wasn't even the president. Eli Yishai is the interior minister and he himself is non-white, so how could it be taken as racist?

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:27 | 2901682 QuietCorday
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That McNally play has upset loads of people all over the world, including in the US and the UK. Crikey, even a bunch of Muslims protested it in London under the banner of protecting the messenger prophet Jesus or something. So I don't see what that has to say about anything, in particular.

And ... err ... a country is impoverished through externally-held debt and flooded full of illegal immigrants the people have no obligation to at all (Greece doesn't have a 19th century imperial legacy so owes developing country nationals absolutely nothing), and the media imbeciles are all shocked at the rise of something like Golden Dawn?

 

 

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:37 | 2901746 Mountainview
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Last Greek election: Golden Dawn got above average votes from members of the Greek Army

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:38 | 2901755 Charlie the Chump
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Be careful quoting any BBC report especially one fom Mason, the corp is a hotbed of Marxist activism led by creatures of the Left like Mason.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:04 | 2901888 bobbydelgreco
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glbalization is ending

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 15:31 | 2902238 toomanyfakecons...
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When the 100+ nation BRICs alliance dumps the dollar, it's all over for U.S.-based financial criminals.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:23 | 2901981 Peter Pan
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The golden dawn party is simply filling a void created by years of government neglect and corruption which has allowed illegal immigrants to enter Greece virtually unhindered. The number of illegals is the equivalent of the USA having 30 million illegals.

Golden Dawn has 18 seats, but if they can somehow put the fear of God into those politicians and people who have illegally enriched themselves by making them cough up their dues, then their pseudo nazi dress code and some of their heavy handed tactics may well be overlooked even by Europe.

Even Greeks need disciplining and it may be that this party will discipline Greeks as well.

The only way to cut short their progress is for the state to deal with lawlessness and immigrants through the state's apparatus quickly, effectively and fairly.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:09 | 2902361 MrTown3
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Some fat fuck yelling and screaming and not putting any "work" in ...next

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:24 | 2902414 Scalaris
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Whether we are left-wing liberal socialists, or right-wing fascist neo-Nazis, whether we advocate for overly-conservative, ethnocentric, anti-secular socioeconomic status, or over-globalized, over-expansory, anti-national policies, we shall all reap soon, that which we have sown, because the long manipulated masses' degree of fury, is steadfastly heading towards its boiling point, and then we shall all be longing for that elusive moderation, which has always being unheeded, along with the almost never existent logic and reason, whose application has been perpetually omitted, for the sake of sheer avarice, unforgivable narrow-mindedness, inexpiable ignorance, and of course all in the interest of our weak nature of human fallibility.

We all forget that we occupy but a very finite, paltry lifespan, yet we all make sure that history is evolved, not by our willing accomplishments, but by the postexistent endurers, who receive said logic and wisdom through our every mistake of every period, through the hindsight which we bestow upon them, whose usefulness, ironically, appears possible only through our lack of providence.

In a nutshell, we excel at picking hairs, while fighting among us in the most ape-like fashion, for trivialities such imaginary gods, abstract philosophies, and distribution of self-worth paper, marble, fine woods, servants, food, roof, shit, when we could have been literally colonizing extrasolar provinces, engaging in subjugation of alien forms, for their usage as cheap labour for our future iPhone mass production lines.

Fuck us all.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 16:52 | 2902503 Loucleve
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This asshole has it ass-backwards.  A threat to democracy?  Fighting against illegal immigration?

They are also fighting an unelected bunch of EU bureuacrats that make all the rules. 

Democracy has been killed by Brussels, not by the people in Golden Dawn.  They, like many here, just want the damn border secured.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 17:21 | 2902590 mantrid
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the social and political outcome of the IMF and EU austerity program, and of the implosion of mainstream politics in Greece, looks like a catastrophe for democracy.

 

no, it is the other way around: catastrophe in democracy lead to the IMF and EU austerity program, and of the implosion of mainstream politics in Greece. austerity itself merely resulted in shattering the pseudodemocratic smoke-and-mirrors circus

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 18:31 | 2902762 lolmao500
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With all the people in prison in the US for BS charges, I wish this would happen.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 19:31 | 2902908 dadichris
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How has this not happened in the US already? The "patriots" are looking to blame anyone but the monetary system and private bankers for their economic woes.  Maybe it's coming soon...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 00:26 | 2903433 toomanyfakecons...
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Maybe these neo-nazis aren't so bad... we already know what you get with old school Nazis like the Bush crime family.

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