To Promote The Great European Socialist Revolution, France's Hollande Will Ban Homework

Tyler Durden's picture

Homework favors the wealthy. This is the position that the increasingly imbecilic President of France is taking in proposing a ban on homework as part of a series of educational reforms. As ABC reports, Hollande sees "education as a priority" but work should be done during school hours rather than at home "in order to establish equal opportunities." But before the children of France rejoice, Hollande is unlikely to garner their future votes, as his proposal also looks to extend the French school week to nine half-days a week to be spread over four, five, or six days (as opposed to the current four days a week with Wednesdays off). Though we may sneer at this oh-so-socialist ideal of 'sharing' the homework load into the school-day, it is perhaps noteworthy that the US still lags France in Math (US 31st in the world vs France 22nd).


Via ABC:

Talk about courting the youth vote. French President François Hollande has proposed banning homework as part of a series of policies designed to reform the French educational system.


Education is priority,” Hollande said in a speech at Paris’s Sorbonne University. “An education program is, by definition, a societal program. Work should be done at school, rather than at home.”


The justification for this proposed ban? Inequality. According to a statement from an official at the French Embassy, “When it comes to homework, the President said it should be done during school hours rather than at home, in order to establish equal opportunities.” Homework favors the wealthy, Hollande argues, because they are more likely to have a good working environment at home, including parents with the time and energy to help them with their work.


Hollande’s education proposal is not limited to a homework ban. According to the embassy, Hollande has also pledged to add 60,000 teaching jobs in the next five years. He has also expressed support for extending the school week by establishing a model in which children would attend school for nine half days a week. Schools would be able to decide if this is spread over four, five or even six days, in consultation with local authorities and parents.


French children typically go to school for 36 weeks out of the year. The school day is roughly as long as an American workday, lasting from 8:00 to 4:00 or later. However, in most schools the week is only four days, with Wednesdays off in addition to Saturday and Sunday.


Hollande’s proposals are not official yet; they’re part of an ongoing national debate about reforming the education system, which is, according to the 2009 Program for International Student Assessment, ranked 21st in reading, 22nd in math and 27th in science among countries in the OECD (Organisation for Economic Development and Co-operation). The United States ranks 17th, 31st, and 23rd in those respective categories.

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Capitalist10's picture

Hollande is working to to get the French economy competitive with the Greek economy.

margaris's picture

Will the people now finally wake up and see government as the monster it really is?

CPL's picture

Hell no.

It is impossible to fix stupid.

Popo's picture

Well I suppose if you're trying to create a society made up of factory-working proles, that's one way to do it.

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

This is the beginning of the war on greed. You can go ahead and be a CEO or a big shot if you want, but expect to pay a heavy price for you exploitive and immoral indulgences. Earning in the top income brackets is a moral abomination, and should be punished in line with murder, rape and theft. The more money big shots make, the less money there is for everyone else. I want my fair share of that wealth. CEOs make hundreds of millions of dollars a year … what do I get?

Harlequin001's picture

Well for once I actually agree with him. My kids spend far too much time doing homework. When I was a kid I was out on my bike and came home only when the street lights came on. I only started doing ANY homework when I went to Grammar school. If you can't educate a child between the hours of 9-5 then you're doing something wrong.

Children need to spend quality time doing something other than being turned into another mindless automaton by the state.

economics9698's picture

MDB I want equal access to your wife’s twat.  It’s only fair.  We are all one under the sun.



azzhatter's picture

she should be easy if she married that doucher

MillionDollarBogus_'s picture

MDB is gay - doesn't have a wife.

What do you get, you ask..??

You get to post here, for all to see...

Carry on...

economics9698's picture

For the record elementary school, middle school should be;

1.  Breakfast.  Most parents do not require their kids to eat breakfast anymore.

2.  Two hours of instruction.

3.  Two hours of gym class outside doing things, whatever, think of something.

4.  Lunch.

5.  Half a hour to socialize.

6.  Two hours of instruction.

7.  Go home.

The 4 hours should be reading, writing, and arithmetic.  That’s it.

GoldRulesPaperDrools's picture

Don't forget to work in some firearms training ... they're gonna need it.

MilleniumJane's picture

I agree, Harlequin001.  My kids have up to two hours of homework a night.  It makes a hectic evening trying to make dinner, get the laundry and housework caught up, bills paid, schedules synched, yard work and all the other things that make a family go smoothly that much harder because the teachers in our school district looooove to pile the homework on.  I think it's because of this No Child Left Behind bullshit compounded by all the fucking full days off, half days off and the half dozen field trips per year the teachers refuse to downsize.  I'm all for a good field trip, but I remember going on only two or three per year.  This week, my 5th grade kid is going to some pumpkin patch.  The school district has them go every year.  He even wonders "What the hell?!?"  Yet they go to gym class only twice a week because of budget cuts.

I have no problem assisting with homework, but oftentimes the kids come home with work that the teacher has given them that the teacher spent maybe ten minutes giving a brief perusal with zero practice.  So now I have to basically teach my kids the new skill.  In my opinion this is the teacher's job.  But that would take away from all the bullshit assemblies (once a week) and "share" classes, a real class in my kid's middle school, I shit you not.  Teachers are much lazier these days than when I was a kid.  My godparents were excellent teachers and, to them, it was a calling, not just a paycheck.  I remember going with them to the school at least an hour before the first bell and they usually stayed at least another hour, if not two, after the last bell.  They usually had 3 or 4 students who they told to come in because the students had fallen behind on something and needed extra help.  They were tough but they cared about these kids.  On top of that, they were community volunteers.  Papers were graded at night or on weekends and vacations and summer vacation was for taking classes to update their teaching credentials.  Nowadays, it's always two or three days off per trimester for "Staff Training Day," but the kids are still coming out illiterate and unable to do basic math.

Harlequin001's picture

 I am surrounded by children with no personality, zero possibility of ever doing anything 'outside of any box' and who's sole focus in life is 10 straight 'A's in school work.

Good luck to them, I'm sure one day they'll develop a sense of humour, if they don't bore the pants off everybody first. There should be more to life than just school work, there has to be. I'm trying to drum into my children that there are two kinds of people in this life, those with capital and those without, and that there are far too many that have just spent all their capital, all their parents capital and all the capital they'll ever have on a grossly overpriced education for which there is 'NO DECENT PAYING JOB" at the end of the tunnel. Not everybody wants or needs to be a scientist.

There are other ways of getting educated that don't involve total immersion in school books every evening, and a part of which involves learning other skills in the process.

I can assure, where I live if I so much as pick up a power screwdriver in public they think I'm a fucking genius. Every last one of them brought up dreaming of an office job. Good luck with that.

You're a long time dead, so enjoy it before you're too old to...

gmrpeabody's picture

If kids today are so overworked..., why do they seem so completely stupid by comparison to when I left high school? The vast majority can't think their way out of a wet paper bag. I don't remember spending more than 30-45 minutes a day on homework, but I was taking college level trig classes as a sophomore in high school. Still..., I've noticed that teachers are so busy checking the kids homework that they don't have the time to teach. I've also noticed that most of the teachers these days aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer either.

MilleniumJane's picture

My middle schooler has a "share" class.  Every day.  The kids sit around in a circle sharing.  It's 45 minutes of time wasted in my opinion.  Plus all the other waste of time stuff.  Plus all the days off the teachers have to have.  It all adds up and the kids really get nothing out of it.

economics9698's picture

The reason kids are so stupid today, despite all the bull shit homework, is they learn shit.  Propaganda.  Useless shit about diversity and government is our god.  The only thing diversity guarantees is a civil war or the break up of nations.  They come out of high school writing like shit and saying crap like the Federal Reserve is responsible for setting prices so the people do not get taken advantage of.

I know because I read these shit papers everyday in college.  These kids are completely indoctrinated with bullshit and are completely unemployable in the capitalist part of the economy.

Totentänzerlied's picture

The economy needs peons. They are most certainly not unemployable, just not in the positions which command any respect or have any authority. The retail and service sectors do not need physicists and mathematicians and electrical engineers, they need interchangeable low-skill laborers. And it serves the status quo to produce produce such persons with no individuality, no curiosity, and no wealth.

gmrpeabody's picture

Plus, and perhaps more importantly, they have a tendency to vote one way!

GoldRulesPaperDrools's picture

Peons = Hosts of harvestable replacement organs for wealthy people

Harlequin001's picture

I don't think there's any possible way that I could answer that question...

What I can say is that when I left school, the Commodore 64 was cutting edge, and there's giving something away. Fact is that I wasn't brought up with computers, I was brought up with cricket bats, rope swings and generally learning the social skills that you just don't get staring at a computer screen.

Oh and by the way, I've banned visitors who bring children with a Gameboy hanging round their necks, just to keep them quiet. It offends me that what seems so normnal to some people can be so ignorant and rude...

gmrpeabody's picture

We didn't have computers..., we didn't have calculators. We did it the old fashion way. And we spent our time outside till our parents yelled for us. Some whistled. Some actually had to come looking, and when that happened, you usually were in trouble (except they usually didn't have to yell more than once for dinner). It was a better time than today.

Harlequin001's picture

Yes, and if I wasn't home WHEN the street lights came on the police would be out looking for me. That only happened once. I made damned sure it didn't happen twice...

ElvisDog's picture

I don't know. We didn't have computers, but I did spend a lot of time watching TV when I was a kid. I'm not sure kids these days spend more time looking at a screen, just a different screen. One thing I do know for sure is that kids these days read books a lot less then when I was young.

Acet's picture

I get the impression that most people in this thread are thinking about the American School System and overlaying it with this measure, which the makes it sound silly.

In reality, the American School System is crap when compared with the school systems in most of Europe and has been for many decades (I remember when the dumb kid from my high-school went one year to the US in a student exchange program and came back having gotten the highest grade in almost all subjects from a US high-school, even when in Portugal he was barelly above the pass mark).


That said, in this side of the pond we've been trying to catch up on that crapiness for the last decade or so.

I hope these measures are just bringing the schooling style it back to the old days when education was actually very good and kids were challenged, before the whole "Educational revolution" that introduced the "everybody is a unique flower and is good at something" shit, the "never give criticism, only compliment" style of teaching, the "if kids can't make the grade, lower the barrier" and in general all sorts of measures that have created a generation of young adults who are spineless, immature, unable to control their own impulses and were effectivelly trained to be overworked drones, impulsive consumers and/or welfare dependents.

Harlequin001's picture

I'm just wondering how you managed to get that so spot on with so few words...

A Nanny Moose's picture

All that "work" is designed to teach people to read Big Mac assemly instructions, paper piushing, and obedience to The State.

I recall my High School economics teacher, showing us how to fill in tax private school.

Harlequin001's picture

I recall doing my homework on the bus to school every morning...

ElvisDog's picture

See, I wish public schools would teach more money-management/economics type stuff. Things like compound interest, how the Federal Reserve works, what happens when our Government deficit-spends. Stuff like that would at least be useful life-skills and maybe prepare them to make informed decisions when they become voters.

All Risk No Reward's picture

The Ultimate History Lesson explains how the education system works to create corporate drones instead of independent and creative thinkers.  The latter is a threat to the current establishment - so they don't want it.

The Ultimate History Lesson:

Some highlights from the Ultimate History Lesson:

What flea training teaches us about education:

Also enlightening is John's experience in 3rd grade at Jesuit school (they'll never teach this in public school curriculum!):

With Commentary and Analysis:

In short, they give kids busy work PRECISELY because it doesn't allow them to think critically or creatively.  They are simply taught to learn what to think instead of how to think.

Parents, you have to learn the system and you have to teach your kids critical thinking and the Trivium so they can learn what requirements exist in order to know something (and it isn't because a teacher, a politician or a newscaster said so).

Trivium Education

The Trivium Binder Project

They also have to know th elogical fallacies that can easily deceive them if they aren't aware of them:

Tragedy and Hope is a must read history textbook for adults and early teen children:

I'd also recommend cluing them in on how the fraudulent debt based monetary system systematically assets strips society to the benefit of the criminals who orchestrated the monetary fraud:

aerojet's picture

I really don't understand what you're saying.  People can be smart and still have practical know-how.  I have a PhD and I still fix my own cars--and not just the easy stuff, and no, it's not just a hobby.  The blue vs. white collar dichotomy was just another divisise strategy used against us, don't believe it.  Witness the resurgence amongst educated people with regard to interest in woodworking, welding, machining, and electronics. 

Also, I'm confused what you meant by "I am surrounded by children with no personality."  Are you speaking of your own kids or who are these children?  Have you taken any time to get to know them? 

You should teach your kids that capital comes in many forms, not just currency. There is far more real value in intellectual capital and in having a life in which you cultivate your own interests and pursuits with some passion.  Having money doesn't mean much compared to having a reason to get out of bed every morning. Mere acquisition of physical assets is mostly a waste because every so often, the oligarchs strip you of that easily-removed "wealth" anyhow.  And if you're saying "become an oligarch" I fail to see how that's a good idea.

Our culture truly needs an overhaul.



gmrpeabody's picture

Let me guess..., you have a PhD in psychology (feelings)? And, you can change your own oil. <sarc>

Harlequin001's picture

Actually I couldn't agree with you more.

As I've said many times, you can't spend time with your two year old when he's twenty, because he ain't a two year old anymore, and time spent with my children whilst they're still little is priceless. For what it's worth it offends me that teachers can't seem to do in normal office hours what the rest of the world seems to do on a daily basis, and that they need to impinge on my very valuable time with my children to do so.

If you think study and more continual study is a good thing then good for you. Personally I think there are other things in life that matter.

I was sat in the dentist chair a few months ago and as he drilled into my back teeth I thought to myself, ‘There has to be a worse job than this…” But I’ll be damned if I can think what it is.

You go to a dingy little room every working day, you stare at the same thing in various states of decay day in and day out whilst all the time bathed in a glow of artificial light and you can’t even have a decent converstaion with your customers. And they study for years to do this.


I mean, what gives? I could be a doctor but what makes you think I want to spend all that time at study just so I can sit in a dingy room I call a surgery and listen to an endless stream of sick people tell me how bad they feel? No wonder the suicide rate is so high. Thanks but no thanks, there are some things and some ways I do want to push my kids and there  are some I distinctly do not, and they do not all involve endless hours of school work.

ElvisDog's picture

Your dentist/doctor (a) make a good income that lets them support their families and probably have an upper-middle class/wealthy lifestyle and (b) probably feel that their making a difference in people's lives.

One of the truly fucked-up things about U.S. society is the widespread idea that everyone deserves a "meaningful" and/or "fun" job, when for most of humanity throughout most of history a job is a way to pay bills, buy food, and support your family.

Hulk's picture

Both you and Jane would greatly enjoy reading summerhill by asneill.

Summerhill was an experiment conducted on kids in England, where they were allowed to play and folow their

own exploratory tendancies. They were then prepared for college in what would be the high school years

It was a success, if one measures success by happiness..


aerojet's picture

Fucking off playing video games and riding your bike around the neighborhood does not count as quality time, it's just fucking off.  And although we all need downtime, that time should come when the work is finished and not until. Do you really believe the way forward for the human race is to encourage people to study less? What vapid nonsense!  Anyone who cares about their children is going to encourage them to do their homework, regardless of what the government proclaims.  I can't even imagine what must be going on in France for such utter minutiae to take hold at the highest levels of government.  Oh, sorry, I probably shouldn't use such big words...

Harlequin001's picture

Who said anything about video games?

Go read a book, I'm sure it will do you the world of good. I believe the way forward for the human race is to study more, in fact to do nothing more than study, just like you.

Now, if you wouldn't mind fucking off, you're boring me already.

aerojet's picture

I guess you only come to ZH to have your preconceived notions validated by the like-minded.

Harlequin001's picture

It was you who decided I was 'fucking off and playing video games.' I have no preconcieved notions at all, other than the one that pisses me off that my children are so overloaded with homework that I don't have the time anymore to head off onto the field and kick a football around, or even have a good old discussion about what they did today, what they achieved and what they wanted to achieve tomorrow...

No one is saying that you shouldn't study, only that there is a time and a place for everything, and I value my childhood just as much as my education, and I don't see how I could do without either of them...

Acet's picture

Actually psychological studies show that one needs downtime from learning something in order from the brain to absorve the knowledge.

Overwork is in fact very counter-productive, both at school and in the workplace.

ElvisDog's picture

One thing I can't get over (although it's true with socialists generally) is that the President of France seems to think it's a good use of his time to specify homework policy for the public schools.

Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture

Booker T. Washington High in Memphis went from a grad rate of 55% in 2007 to 81% in 2010 by doing pretty much exactly what is proposed here, dropping homework entirely and lengthening the school day, so that the homework gets done at school, with the teachers right there to answer questions.  If it works in Memphis, it for sure will work everywhere else.  Less latchkey issues to deal with as well.  Given the reality that, in most cases, both parents have to work to maintain the "middle class lifestyle", this is simply a better solution.  

EatYourCornTakeyourPill's picture

All men are created equal and entitled to some inalienable rights! Life, Liberty, Education, Medical Care, The Pursuit of Happiness, A House, A Car, An Obamaphone. Have I left anything out?

Mad Mohel's picture

Does "the Pursuit of Happiness" cover free hookers and booze?

TBT or not TBT's picture

That is now the TMed motto of the US Secret Service, asterixed "*free hookers and booze"

TruthInSunshine's picture

It's "hookers & BLOW" You can't expense alcohol anymore, but coke can still be put in the "miscellaneous" column. Plus, there's a double entendre there.

Sheeesh. You guys.

TBT or not TBT's picture

After all they are looking after the integrity of the nation's currency.   Would be surprising if they didn't had a free supply of it.   


This is better than helicoptering the stuff BTW, because here, people are employed, goods and services are directly consumed, boosting aggregate demand in round 1.

Real Estate Geek's picture

You sure did:  all that stuff gotta be free or it ain't fo' me!