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Super-Power Showdown - US vs. China
These giants boast the world's largest economies and active militaries with their decisions influencing politics at a global level. Despite a massive trade agreement and many diplomatic meetings, the two nations struggle to maintain the semblance of a civil relationship. As pressure mounts from US leaders, China remains unfazed, coolly growing its military and economy. Master-of-Finance-Degrees provides the ultimate infographic of how these two titans of industry and power measure up when pitted head-to-head. Guess who wins?
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Education begins in the home.
As China gets more T.V.'s and Internet devices (computer, tablet, phone) and the Women start divorcing the Men for money and play time you can expect their education rating to start crashing to U.S. levels.
Brilliant!
They shall rise to our level of exceptionalism.
How does US have the edge in military supremacy?
US Hardware trumps Chinese bodies I assume is the reason. The fact that nothing in the infographic alludes to this makes it a pretty silly infographic.
Take away our petrodollar and reserve currency status and then tell me how we stack up...
Bingo ghost! Absolute bingo! You take away the petro dollar and it's reserve currency status and the USA collapses in minutes! Only our ability to print dollars to infinity and have them accepted by all the producer nations around the world keeps the USA in power.
Imagine when the dollar is not accepted for the massof goods and services that pour from around the world into America in exchange for printed green toilet paper. It is game over, for good! All that would be left would be for America to expend it's inventory of weapons, troops and ammunition in stock on one last giant killing spree on those who have refused the dollar. After the initial burst of invasions, bombings and killings the US runs out of money and that is that!
Don't forget about the aircraft carriers and the stealth drones..
In the end, that will make the difference in a toe-to-toe, but then the asymmetrical thing comes into play.
The stealth drones that Iran spotted, commandeered, and safely landed?
I'm wantin me some a dat techie...ya know, just in case I need to commandeer a drone sometime.
Hey!...I paid for it ;-)
In two totally unrelated stories, the Department of Homeland Security annound they'dbe releasing tens of thousands of drones over US territory and I will be taking computer programming courses in Farsi.
Na, I think he meant the stealth drones that would be nuked at sea before they even got off the carrier.
Don't even think it ...we're all fed up with the Fed owning 60% of all US Treasuries. If the economic retards buy the other 40% (because China offloads) won't that make the Licensee, the Fed. owner of the Licensor, the US Govt, all be a bit insestuous???
talk about conflict of interest when CONgress comes round to renew the private cartel monopoly on money license
We the bankrupt US Congress, indebted to the Fed, hereby grant to our owners, the Fed, a new license after a free, open and transparent bidding and tendering mechanism
Brilliant
Brilliant indeed.
Perhaps they'll develop a false flag operation, by catching Bernanke wacking off in the excecutive washroom.
Berwanke can be caught whacking off with his Ivy League dorm mates, and it still won't matter ...the Fed has CONgress by the balls, the Fed owns the US Govt and all the gibbering public representatives (cough) therein
this is like the comparison of universities, no perception of where the leading edge lies and where the downside abides.
“Everyone looks retarded once you set your mind to it.”
China totally kills us in violin geeks per capita and in total. This chart is BULLSHIT.
And ping pong.
Piano geeks too.
Sounds like a typical American marriage.
There's a 50% chance this relationship ends with irreconciable differences.
US can have all the other numbers, but it cain't fix stupid.
Final Score: China Won, US Ohnos
Guys have you noticed that the margin requirements have been decreased for all currencies except the Israeli Shekel which had an increase?
Have noticed the increase in margin in tanker rates??
Have you noticed that Mitt Romney is leading in Gallup Polls?
Tonkin bay
So China beats on practically every point on economy, yet the US has the edge in economy? What?
Same with the military. They say china has more troops (and I think their number of about 2 million is way short) but give the U.S. the edge? Yeah, we might have the edge, but you've got to show number of nukes, naval vessels, missiles and aircraft.
Not to mention equipment maintenance and reliability. Factor out the F-22 unless you want them dropping out of the sky enroute with pilots blacked out from hypoxia. Factor in China's recent purchase of Sovremeny-class missile destroyers from Russia; a three-ship delivery which caused quite a power imbalance with the world's largets carrier force.
Yeah I didn't get those two things either?
Pretty sloppy infographic, not as striking as the demonocracy ones that are posted here regularly.
As a Dutchman I can understand the American's situation. At one point we had the world's most powerful navy (mid 17th century), half a century later we were a second rate power. And now we don't matter much anymore.
Cheer up Bunky...
The Dutch are still #1 in cannabis seed sales.
(Watch out for Californians though...they're sneaky.)
Thanks to the "weed pass" which our nanny state government introduced Cali will soon be the cannabis kings.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/04/dutch-weed-pass-stoner-voters-n...
So now all you have to look forward to is sharia law. Condolences.
I don't know, you've got some fantastic Women and cheese.
Those two and a good bottle of red wine...
US military spending is listed as 4.06% of GDP. It is actually about a trillion dollars. It is 6.5% of the GDP. That is a very large error - so the credibility of the comparison is questionable.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-real-defense-budget/253327/
For those who enjoy zesty predictive fiction, I recommend a 5 part fiction series by John Michael Greer, he issued part 3 today so there is more to come. Well aligned with the title of this post, you will have to scroll down about half way to pick up part 1.
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/
Greer is not stupid, but he's got his meme (peak oil) and he can't see outside it.
Post a positive comment on gold and watch what happens (remember to duck).
With a good editor, this guy might give Tom Clancy a run for his money.
$7 / gallon gas, 20 years from now, with more bailouts, QE and Peak Oil?
Let's see, over the last 20 years gasoline is up about 200%. If there were sustained shortages plus more money printing, I could see $20 per gaollon being a more reasonable price 20 years from now.
China #1 on math, science and reading _internationally ranked_?? Total BS.
In China the gov controls the media and just prints complete fiction. Here in the US it is completely diff.........oh never mind.
Those F'n nukes go off buddy and the cockroaches will be the winners.
One thing that none of these US-vs-China discussion would ever explore is the fact that, if you offer a Chinese such option as a US passport, he/she would say yes without hesitation and at no delay. So there is no such thing as strong Chinese nation vs USA, there is only a question of how much border you can open up to absorb useful labor.
But then, no politician would dare going there. Hell, even posting this message is going to earn me some thumb-downs for sure. Pathetic.
What you say is true. I am in association with many Chinese students from the mainland and most of them want to live here and work. If they can't work here, they want to go to Canada; but they don't want to go back to China.
Total BS and wasted time to read. Comparison of statstics on high aggregation from economies that manipualte every fucking outcome is absurd.
13% poverty in CHINA?!??
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, AHAHAHAHAA,....oh shit, I just sharted and blew beer out of my nose.
AHAHAHAHAHHHAHHA
Gini coeficient
The truth hurts. Or is simply laughed at.
AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!!
BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!
That's good stuff, I don't care who you are!
Population below poverty line: 13.4%
note: in 2011, China set a new poverty line at RMB 2300 (approximately US $363; this new standard is significantly higher than the line set in 2009, and as a result, 128 million Chinese are now considered below the poverty line (2011)
Another funny thing is how great China does in education. If their kids are so smart, how come they work in Foxconn sweatshops?
Honey Boo Boo says FUCK YOU CHINA
Honey Boo Boo says FUCK YOU DOWN ARROWS
Love me some "sketti"... extree butta momma.
Back to reality. All is lost. Algos will go bidless and the reset/war begins.
I have no idea what a Honey Boo Boo is. I know I could Google it, but I fear an episode of projectile vomiting if I do so. It took me a few years to summon up the stomach for finding out what a Snooki is, though I still have no idea what the source of her fame might be (I suspect it is some reality TV show or maybe she is a friend of that big butt California sex tape queen).
Anyway, the question is...is a Honey Boo Boo something from which the US can benefit as a cultural export, letting the outside world know who and what we really are as a people? Does China have a Honey Boo Boo, or is there a Boo Boo Gap?
We appear to have the same taste in programming and projectile vomiting. Unfortunately was made acquaintance with Ms Honey Boo Boo while walking through the living room on my way to the shitter.
Homey Boo Boo is Snookie (which I happened to encounter another fine evening on my constitutional through the living room.) twenty years earlier. Whatever the show is appears to mix poor white trash with pedophiles in displays of their less than five year old children. It is profoundly disturbing just to hear as background noise.
Apparently our programmers have selected HBB to represent the end times. It is horrifying to even glance at. I think it's actually mind programming, I hear the same pulsing volume that I'm starting to notice more and more in popular music.
For a visual, think of Shirley Temple, with an extra fifty pounds at age three or four, a smart ass idiotic mouth with a backwoods hill-billy accent accompanied by a monstrously huge mother who apparently makes her living by pimping out her baby.
Everytime I walk past the TV with that kid on I'm reminded why I basically stopped watching two years ago.
are you in fucking jail or married?? not sure which would be harder to switch the damn channel
i think this same chart was posted in the london times in 1937 comparing the usa and the british empire.
Woah there, someone forgot our new Nobel Peace Prize winning Superpower.
The Chinese military are better fit. Their soldiers are selected only if they are in excellent physical shape and are above average in intelligence. There is a waiting list of young Chinese wanting to be in the military. Our military takes just about anybody. I knew a girl that enlisted here in America because a judge gave her the choice of either joining the military or doing time in prison. She was a 5th grade dropout and gave one fourth of the men in Wyoming venereal disease; including her brother. In the military she slept with any guy and girl she could and got higher than kite every night. Now, she is a decorated officer. Go figure.
Epic!
Our military takes just about anybody.
Well, OK, but the selection pool is only from those unfortunate enough to have felt the need or desire to enlist, so it's much more exclusive than you imply.
Decorated with what?
Don't ask. Don't tell.
"I'm a Yankee Noodles Nancy!"
200 million chinese troops walking west with pitch forks would be hard to stop even with nukes. the chinese would win that war and cure their population problem for a while. once the indians see how effective the straegy was they would engage the chinese and it could only be hoped that the conflict was broadcasted worldwide.
Agree. USA lists 75mm available men 16-49 vs China 385mm. As an avid Risk player.. I'll take the troop avantage.
Let's not forget the 700 million rounds of ammo that DHS is laying in for a rainy day now.
What's the shelf life of that kit?
I'm not sure, but we've been firing WWII 30.06 here since the 70's. Dad somehow got hold of a truckload of shells. So far we haven't had but a couple that didn't fire.
Decades is indeed the correct answer.
Next World War will not be boots on the ground, or even boats, tanks, or planes in the sky but nukes from space.
Whoever blinks loses if the planet doesn't lose first.
Guess who wins?
nature
Even though the Chinese make less many of their people believe in saving 50%. Many Americans are lucky to save 6%. Chinese have a manufacturing economy whereas the US believes in services ("May I take your order please", "I'm going to sue you for everything you have!") and paper shuffling (financials).
China is extremely patient. China will just enable the US to dig a deeper and deeper debt hole (With the help of people of people like Krugman and Burnanke). Like the former Soviet Union it will no longer be able to afford it's debts and print it's way out.
China can win without firing a shot. It can wait it out and watch the US decline. China has already taken key technologies. Aviation is the next strategic industry to dominate.
Don't think that wait is going to be long.
Another 24 months at this rate, and its stick a fork in it time.
The Chinese ,and Russians will own the world without firing a shot if we are lucky.
Don't see Uncle Sam going quietly into the night though.A lot of kicking and warring first,
prolly with nukes, if we are unlucky.
Exit stage left Pax Americana either way, maybe homo sapiens also.
Careful comparing military spending. Much of ours is for the pay our forces get. I don't know what the ChicComs military pay is, but I'd guess its not very much.
Any war would find our Naval and Airforce an easy walk over the Chinese military, and if it went nuclear they'd be signing the death warrant for their Chinese future.
The death warrant would be for humanity. You think one or 2 nukes will fly? It would be the true endgame. Everybody goes poof.
Notsofast, saints. Chinese have 26 ICBM, I can't remember how many thousands we have. Old Chinese proverb say, "Better to lose face than to lose a**. And always remember, the one thing worse than a nuclear war is losing a nuclear war.
I agree we have an arsenal of weapons that cant be matched. My point is when one madman presses the red button so do the others. I see a nuke war like a chain reaction where allies defend allies. imo, everybody loses a nuke war because the planet is FUBAR for lifetimes. Again we have an arsenal that can destroy the world a 1000 times but whats the point of having that. I guess its a big dick competition.
Education does not take into account how many elite academic institutions in the US at the forefront of pioneering technologies like quantum computing, genetics sequencing, laser warfare, material science, green grid tech, ect. I do understand the US is completely saturated with horrible universities that do nothing for the economy but generate debt; we do edge out China in education for now due to high end tech research.
All those "elite institutions" are teaching Chinese (and Indian) wunderkinds. Hardly a paleface or roundeye to be seen.
Vlad - Perhaps...
Sun is setting on America, rising on China, regardless of what these "charts" say.
I miss the old avatar =-(
Could we have not let the bears do the Bernak on this .it's late in the evening & readeing small print with one eye closed is difficult. long Canadian Mist....
China has better numbers than USA how come she loses? Does the infographic imply that USA have more advanced technology than China?
It's 'cause it's printed in 'Merkin.
The Chineezy version has it going the other way.
He forgot a few U.S. numbers, and letters, that put us ahead. B2, FA18, F-16, F-22, B1B, B-52, F-15, M1A1, CVE, the list is quite a bit longer, but you get my drift.
You have to read it left to right.
0033 GMT [Dow Jones] Although destocking activities dragged down China's 3Q12 GDP growth, stronger-than-expected September macro indicators suggest that the recovery has started
hahahaha
yeah right NASDAQ is 3% neg on the month as China turns into stagflation nightmare.
China does not have to fire one bullet to beat the USA. All China has to do is remove the US dollar from being pegged to oil. War is so out of style. Its like bell bottom jeans.
This is the cheapest way to win and provides the most benefit to china
How many military personnel will continue to do their job when the dollar does not buy them anything?
Exactly. This is the point when the American people imo will see the true colors of the puppet masters. It will show USA as the true aggressor and the propaganda machine will not be able to make shit stick against the wall. At least this is what I would hope the outcome would be for the blind.
As for military troops, I honestly think you would still have some fighting for the elite even without pay. If the elite provides them 3 hot meals and a place to lay their head, they will die for it. Got to remember some people are so brainwashed.
The arguments raised that compare China and the U.S. as approaching parity are detrimental. Why?
First, the intent of these arguments is to support the build-up of America’s military/industrial complex, a banker goal.
Second, they give credence to a Communist form of government as being capable of growing entrepreneurial capitalism in much the same way as the West has experienced industrial revolutions -- a banker goal.
Third, the argument masks the real reason that China is showing industrial and technical growth; mainly, that U.S. patents, technology and technical jobs have been stolen from the U.S. by the multinational corporations and bankers and given by the U.S. to China -- a banker goal.
Fourth, propaganda building up the success of the Chinese economy, said to rival America’s economy, is meant to show the failures and weaknesses in the American system and prepare Americans to accept a place in line of world governed economies -- a banker goal for world socialism.
With these banker goals, it’s easy to see why one would use the obviously contorted U.S. data and compare it with likely completely fabricated Chinese data,
competition in fraud as they say
China has no chance, sorry. After the collapse, the US will recover faster. We don't need China, but they need us.
After the collapse, a dictatorship works better than a democracy.
That has nothing to do with what I said.
Why will the US recover faster? That's complete baloney. The infographic notwithstanding, 75% of China's population currently live in conditions worse than what most Americans can imagine a collapse scenario would look like. When any collapse happens, China will go right on trucking and America will grasp it's collective forehead as the double macchiato high wears off, tapping their non-responsive iJunk in catatonic repetion, and then proceed to go post-Katrina, bath salts crazy on each other as they fight for the last gigabyte of data on Kim Kardashian. If you question my logic, check with Dmitry Orlov.
you wont recover...Americans are a dieing people...
Jlee I like a lot of your comments but this one i disagree with. To think China needs us is not accurate imo. Do not underestimate China as they have more power than most think. China can hurt us way more than we can hurt them. They are already trying to remove the US dollar being pegged as the reserve for oil. That would destroy the USA overnight if they can pull it off. Plus they can hurt us more and stretch us thin by fucking with Japan which is happening now. USA must answer to Japan's call since we are allies. The USA policies and games they have played for years has put China in perfect position for check mate. China has more to gain than lose while USA can lose it all and gain nothing but more debt. China knows its the underdog yet the USA is up only by 1 and China has the ball late in the 4th quarter.
It sure will be grand....when everybody from the age of 18 and 25 can do three months of basic training...and be ready to serve against the Chinese bogeyman
"Press Freedom".....10th?
hahahahahahahahahaha
Wow US education stats are really sad...
Take out the word "stats" and you've got it totally figured out.
Nice catch there Vlad.
Meaningless.
Complete waste of time.
Data sets on both sides are complete bullshit!
What matters most? Who owns the factorys? Who is the debtor? Who is the creditor?
Who could afford to lose half a million people and still win an armed conflict?
Who plans generations ahead and who plans until the next election?
Now, ask yourself - who has the edge?
To add to your post:
What matters most? Who owns the factorys? Who is the debtor? Who is the creditor?
The BIG question should be; Where did the money first come from to build the factory?
I would build TEN fucking factorys starting tomorrow if I could print unlimited fiat for me and my buddies on the expectation that the sheeple will continue to trust me and my fiat (not the car), because I’m doing God’s Work.
We will always be fucked six ways to Sunday while we let Bankassholesters and Politiciancraps control the money.
After the election and obama looses i can see a scenario where they tighten margin requirements, stop QE infinity and limit the entitlement programs to cause economic collapse and the need for martial law due to all the social unrest from people starving
This should keep obama in office and create the need for a permenent police state
Capitalists 3, Communists 2.
Sounds like cold war spin all over again.
Awww look at the colors and the chart graph showdown, so kewl. Anyone here seen zerohedge? I was looking for zerohedge.
In the 70's it was the Soviet Union. Oops, all gone. In the 1980's and 90's it was Japan was going to take over the world. No more. Now it's China. Great, except two problems.
1) China must import food. How can you be the greatest in the world if you can't feed yourself? Get real.
2) If you haven't noticed, the leaders of the planet since Roman times have been Christian nations. I do not believe this is a coincidence. China is not a Christian nation, therefore world leadership won't be permitted to happen.
1) Buy it/take it from those weaker/poorer than yourself. Tell me,wise one, do you "import" any of your food? Or do you grow it and slaughter it all by yourself. For all of history, more powerful nations have imported food - going back to the Romans you cite. But then based on #2, you don't seem to know much about history.
2)How about: the Norse, the Mongols, the Byzantine-defeating Ottomans, the various Chinese dynasties from the Han to the Ming, the Abbasid Caliphate, the Mamelukes...I'm getting tired of typing here, but your point is totally invalid, and I'm not even including the Nazis and the Soviet Union, but that's just because I'm a nice guy.
1) Does America need to import food? No. My point stands. China needs us, we don't need them.
2) You mention empires and raiders, but not world leaders. I guess you missed my point there too. The ones you mention were just historical noise, not leaders.
One important factor not disclosed is that China runs short of pussies. And that's a huge problem.
That's true but they could always invade those little places around them thailand, Loas, Myanmar, Nepal, and steal their women. Also, we also have to contend with the black factor. 17% (of total pop) of the most worthless group of people residing on the planet - the American Africans. Sorry, I'm partially racist and I live in the south.
That is exactly what my McHugepenis Chart has been tracking.
Daring some folks on this site. How about make the
plea to help instead of us all just complaining. What
about getting off our complacency and really begin
again. And I mean again. I'm just old enough to
remember how proud and grateful my parents
generation were to have good manufacturing jobs
working for companies owned and created by daring
people on this side of the world. Guess what I'm
starting a company, an industrial business because
I'm more than worried for the next generation. If
you think things are bad now wait until the dementia
demographic really begins to take hold. I ask anyone
out there that cares about America to get
out of your comfort zone and take a chance to start
new enterprises. It's the only way I can envisage a brighter
future for the younger people of N. America.
OK, what the hell...
"How about make the plea to help instead of us all just complaining." What plea are you referring to?
"What about getting off our complacency and really begin again." Who is complacent and in what manner are they complacent? Respectfully Sir, please describe the 'begin again' and detail a plan to achieve it.
"Guess what I'm starting a company, an industrial business because I'm more than worried for the next generation. If you think things are bad now wait until the dementia demographic really begins to take hold." +1 Sir. I believe it could be effectively argued than many of us here are of a unique aggregate.
Ok Manipuflation. Plan to get some, if only a small fraction,
of the idle manufacturing centres re-opened. Use the new
financing centre in the midwest opening specifically for
the purpose of new industry with all the support services
that go along with it. I'm getting someone to put
up a website with lot of links and hopefully inspiring
stories and massive focus on how important fabrication
is to our economies. David Rosenburg says housing
2pc, manufacturing 10. And if people say nay, I say
hogwash. Despite all the bad news we have folks
trying - 500,000 new companies have been started
by individuals. Think of the ripple effect if we could
get that number doubled or trebled. One industrial
association website I visited last year, stated that
over 450 small enterprises were involved to fabricate
all the parts for a finished energy product. Hugh.
Would like to hear your ideas.
Zerohedegers have ruled that this chart is, complete bullshit.
I don't know who dreamed up this crap but they have a liberal streak. It's not total horseshit but coimes close to the 50/50 barrier.
Z H's have spoken with the II vote.
That is all...
Agreed on the BS part. I have done my due diligence but can really only come up with the following as to who dreamed this 'something' up. Please correct me if I have missed something obvious.
http://www.masteroffinance.org/about/
1 here :p
They hate us for our Freedom Fries
Stopped reading at China 9.28% GDP growth. LOL.
Adult literacy in the U.S. is 99%? Yeah right.
Also the Chinese international subject rankings are probably nonsense. Chinese kids do work (very) hard in high school, & are good at maths and science, but from what I can make out when they do these international comparison tests, the students are cherry picked from the best of the best students in Shanghai. (ie near genius kids drawn from a 1.4bn population via scholarships etc to the top high schools in big cities.). I think most other countries just submit a random sample of their students...
Tai ai mianzi de guojia.
This isn't bad, but I wrote a blog that examines even more fundamental issues. It's called "Foundations of Civilization, What about China?" http://gulfcoastcommentary.blogspot.com/2012/01/foundations-of-civilizat...
China has miles to go to beat the USA in fundamental foundations of lasting, modern civilization. I would rate China a "fail". I believe China is a very unstable country and is in no way the "heir apparent" to becoming a dominant power.
Let me know what you think.
Mostly agree BUT major errors on two counts:
1) economic data incomplete
a) Gold reserves (if accurate)
US = 8134 tones
China = 1054
b) Most tradable coin
US = petrodollar/& 63% of world trade = hegemony
China = Largest US gov bond holder/ this makes the US their asset! Clever, given pointing a gun at your fund manager would mean your asset is cancelled. At least a cool 3T taken off the debt load.
China fix their coin = 'print' to maintain tight rate
c) larger middle class goes to US, self explanatory.
2) military force! Grossly underestimates US
a) a number army is an ancient strategy
b) modern strategies all go to the US: in fact the latest stuff is US IP.
i) nuclear weapons; may be 5,000 (the smallest are more than 2,000 times more powerful than those used in Japan - 1945); may be 2,000 are 'ready-to-go' from various underground/space locations from well controlled rockets;
ii) air/naval forces: the largest and fastest fleets, and most well trained personal all goes to the US;
- 11 CVNs (nuclear powered water fortresses) deployment of over 200 fully loaded fighter jets (of which there are almost 3,500 different aircraft); carriers travel with 2 warships, up to 2 submarines (of which there are almost 400), amphibious crafts, etc.;
- foot soldiers are well trained and well equipped, the latest guns/communications network;
c) international space station; mainly a US venture, possibly largely linked to military forces. This is a possible weakness that China targets, not specifically the space station but the thousands of satellites swimming around in space; the US has several strategies for this and some.
Overall score = 5/0
China would cause the US some trouble no doubt, but not a long-term problem, at least not yet. Give it another 50 years, if they (China) can survive the next 10 years.
I suggest you read the book, One Second After. This is the WW III we will see if Civil War does not erupt first.
The chart that is not showing is how many fat peoples each nation is having. The numbers showing peoples would be having more equalness if the numbers were showing peoples by weight and not showing peoples by numbers.
How states that those departments should weigh the same?
When you preside over the biggest extortion of the weak, farming of the poor scheme in human history, the military department outweighs all the others.
Guess what, 'americans' know this and well, the US of A has supreme advance.
As a reminder, if technological advancmeent was enough to win a war, Germany would have won WW2.
China is lagging way too much in the extorting/farming side on a global scale to perform anything challenging to the 'american' imperium of Man over sub humans and non humans.
Look at those two flags. I see more similarity than difference.
Choomboy chooses the one on the right.
Look at them!
http://goo.gl/e8zoV
Cool link, I heard that civil war in turkey will start if a war between syria and turkey begins which now is all but a certainy. Kick um when they are up, kick um when they are down.
a job of banker backed separatists.
The title of this article highlights the difference of mindsets between the two countries. The Chinese mindset avoids "showdowns" at all costs -- it's just seen as necessarily mutually destructive and wasteful, and therefore stupid and hugely embarrassing for everybody concerned. The pan-Asian mindset model is the yin/yang circle that symbolizes the struggle for balance in all relations concerning everything from husband & wife to sun, earth and moon.
Why is it so hard for the Western mindset to think outside the model of Good vs. Evil with the as-yet undelivered promise of the ultimate triumph of Good in a world where Good is born of Evil and Evil, of Good? If you need an example, China has the richest rainbow of cuisines because of a history of natural and manmade disasters that forced people to try cooking anything that looked alive and to figure out how to make it palatable. Alternatively, Chernobyl and Fukushima would have been impossible without the sublimely creative thinking of Einstein, Fermi and Heisenberg, among others.
The universe is just energies in constant movement. Nothing is created or destroyed. There is only movement and transformation. No single energy will triumph over the other. Why remain prisoner of the idea that one will ultimately triumph?
"Showdown"? Hmm...
For all that, the Chinese seem to be pretty wound-up over those little islands and the anniversary of Nanking, and seem to be looking for a showdown.
Another weird thing: How come the US death rate is 8.39% and the Chinese rate is 7.17%? Does that mean people in the overdeveloped USA die younger than in the underdeveloped PRC?
And how come those two figures are not presented side-by-side for easiest comparison like for the other data?
china is stealing american jobs in broad day light and no one can stop it. what the fuck would china need a war for? it's already winning everything.
They are, in fact, doing a better job at solving the senior Bush's "big problem" the dilemma: it's hard to steal wealth without simultaneously destroying it. In a sense the neocons solved the problem... FOR THE CHINESE!!! (and the Saudi). Post peak America bleeds well.
US is a mediocre performer at best across the board..