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25 Years Later: The Dow's Biggest Loser (And Winner)

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Of the current stack of 30 'Blue-Chip' stocks that comprise the Dow Jones Industrial Average, Alcoa has managed to do the worst over the past 25 years - gaining a cumulative 63% in the last 25 years (or 2.2% annually). The Dow itself, based on Bloomberg's Chart of the Day, has risen 627% since the crash in 1987 (or 8.6% annually) - almost 10x that of Alcoa; while McDonald's (perhaps perfectly summarizing what America is all about) has risen on average 12.8% per year for a 1620% gain since Black Monday. But who has impacted the Dow the most since its highs in October of 2007? (Hint: they disappointed this week!)


The best and worst performer (among current Dow members - avoiding the BKs!) since the 1987 crash...


But perhaps most importantly - the Dow is around 850 points from its intraday highs in October 2007 - and of the members of the Dow at that point AIG and C did the most damage (accounting for 870 points of loss on their own); while IBM has been the true star adding a magnificent 568 points during that time.


We can only hope that IBM, MCD, and WMT do not start to disappoint...oh wait...


Charts: Bloomberg


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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment Aziz
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Long mobility scooters!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:06 | Link to Comment Ljoot
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You Rascal.


Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Ralph Spoilsport
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:16 | Link to Comment Precious
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Clowns aren't so stupid after all.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:49 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Awesome, I keep getting a Walmart popup ad with each page refresh. Goes nice with my sidebar ads from RandPAC.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:53 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Get adblock!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 23:14 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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or, alternatively, videos such as this (apologies to peter fonda and dennis hopper) may make us all aware of how far we have fallen.  look homeward angel and melt with ruth.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 11:29 | Link to Comment markmotive
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:10 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Growth is driven by international sales, over 60% of Mcdonalds sales are outside the US.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:24 | Link to Comment icanhasbailout
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in IBM's case it's driven by offshoring the workforce

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 11:46 | Link to Comment samcontrol
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long alcoa short mcdonalds.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Taint Boil
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Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions – all on a sesame seed bun.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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Damn it Taint, you are dating us.  Remember the 70's ALCOA ads?  Next thing you know the hotshot 20 somethings here will be making fun of us because we had only three channels of TV static to watch.  Screw that noise.  We went outside and played some games in those days and Dad drank up all of the family's non-essential income on a nightly basis.

So it goes.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Taint Boil
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Damn it Taint, you are dating us .....

Well I could have done the where's the beef commercial [1984] ......... ah the memories. Anyone here know about The Ghoul .... only in the detroit area - now that would really freak me out.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 00:27 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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mcdonalds knows monopoly



Sat, 10/20/2012 - 01:26 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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The Ghoul?  That, Sir, I can not claim to know about.  Two states and a lake west of you.


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 04:24 | Link to Comment X Yooper
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Hi-a, hi-a, hi-a! Remember Bill Kennedy?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 08:44 | Link to Comment duo
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AA made the aluminum for the engine block of my Chevy Vega

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 13:47 | Link to Comment machineh
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AA supplied the raw metal for aluminum wiring in the some early-70s houses, too.

Some folks like the 'flickering firelight' effect ...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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Two obese Patties, Special Ross, Red-Is-Peace picking bunions on a Sesame Bus.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:15 | Link to Comment max2205
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I know I know..... IBM

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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Damn... I was gonna guess IBM's evil twin, the SkyNet system known as HAL....

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:24 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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HAL is one step ahead of IBM...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:27 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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 or one letter....    How did I not notice that before?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment SilverDosed
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You just blew my mind.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 06:33 | Link to Comment Obadiah
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wtf how did I not know this HAL IBM pattern?

conspiricy confirmed!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:45 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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The Dow has really benefitted from having Citi instead of Honeywell. [/sarc.]

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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That was a good one Buzz! +1  Bankers vs Warriers?  huuummm.  Weapons require "real/ tangible elements". )side arm, human repair business(

  I'll side with war, for a decent dividend Buzz. /sarc

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:21 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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C, 3 billion shares served. lulz

He's as blind as he can be

Just sees what he wants to see

Nowhere Man can you see me at all?

Nowhere Man, don't worry

Take your time, don't hurry

Leave it all till somebody else lends you a hand...

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Or a bionic hook... Nice work buzz ;-)

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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Squirrel Jam

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:18 | Link to Comment monopoly
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Oh Oh!

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:23 | Link to Comment recidivist
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Unless they get de-listed, AAPL may win that coveted TBTF status.  iShite for all.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:52 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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Bernanke needs to buy tons of Apple stock, because if it falls so does the market. Hell, there is no market, but Apple is the next best thing.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:37 | Link to Comment Heyoka Bianco
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Alcoa was tracking the Dow just fine until '08. All those unemployed people collecting cans must have eaten up their margins.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  Remember when cans were "tin", and had pull tabs?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:53 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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Remember when dimes were silver?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:26 | Link to Comment WAMO556
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Do you remember when most chicks weren't FAT? Even the two baggers?

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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They started getting their belly fat after dwarf wheat and high fructose corn syrup were introduced on a mass scale about 30 years ago.  Type 2 diabetes began its climb toward the stratosphere then too.  It isn't just women either.

An example of one of those beauties:

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:30 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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Current wheat is a BIG issue -  sil who's a nurse put her kids on a no wheat diet and 'presto' - losing fat, not as hyper..... amazing differnce

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Taint Boil
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A 2 bagger - LOL

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment Ballin D
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The terrible unemployment stats for young adults are pretty exciting.  Bitches cant get fat when they cant afford food.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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I remember when ZH threads didn't look like a herd of yahoo msg board trolling. . .

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Ness.
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64' Kennedy half dollar is worth $11.60.


My Grandmother used to work at a bank and "exchanged" countless (boating accident) numbers of 64' K for worthless .50 crap.


Grandma was ahead of her time.




Sat, 10/20/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment optimator
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Dimes were silver in the 50's, and two of them would buy a gallon of gas.  Today you can buy a gallon of gas with one of those 50's dimes.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Midas
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:23 | Link to Comment WAMO556
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The "church key" was a requirement for drinking beer.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:31 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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Swiss Army or BSA pocket knife worked fine.....

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Pejorative Requiem
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The only thing missing is a comment on the change in the nature of the Dow itself - from a vehicle for businesses to raise capital to an ATM for banksters, cabals and insiders.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 07:20 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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Don't forget the political barometer of bullshit Inc.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 22:51 | Link to Comment HardwoodAg
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MCD WMT - One is in the waste business, the other in the waist business. Both are garbage related

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Bill DeBurgh
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Those Alcoa fuckers could not wait for tomorrow... to underperform.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 01:37 | Link to Comment ptoemmes
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Lessons in exponents...

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 07:19 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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Word on the street is IBM hardware is in every super computing center being built West of the Mississippi.

Buffet has insider preference with a thumb on the pipeline that's how...

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment johnnylb
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This is a bit misleading.  What does this chart look like in inflation adjusted terms.  If you look at a chart of the S&P 500 or the Dow since the 1987 crash, what is obvious is the start of a great inflation starting in the early 90's.  The extra air all came from the central banks.  If you adjust these charts for inflation, the increase was not very spectacular at all.


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