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The Hunted And The Hated: An Inside Look At The NYPD’s Stop-and-Frisk Policy

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Courtesy of Mike Krieger of Libertyblitzkrieg

When I came into this police force I wanted to help people, but the civilian population, they’re being hunted.  They’re being hunted and we’re being hated.

- NYPD Officer on the Department’s Feudal “Stop and Frisk” Policy

This video should be required viewing for every single American citizen.


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Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:00 | 2906802 Clashfan
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Kudos. Great post.

Now if you could just get 911 right....

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:35 | 2906843 Precious
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Welcome to the Gulag.  The cops are the tools.  The blame is with the command.  Bloomberg is a piece of shit.  The police chief is a scumbag.  The SCOTUS is a failure.  America is no longer save for innocent people.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:35 | 2906860 Richard Chesler
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I can barely see the video amidst all the fucking spam.

fuck this shit.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:39 | 2906866 Precious
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Sir.  What did you say?  Who do you think you are talking to.  Put your arms behind your back.  You are under arrest.  Nice and gentlemanly like.  That's how we do it here.  Nice and gentlemanly.  Enjoy your jail cell.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:41 | 2906876 nmewn
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They're frisking folks for Big Gulps and salt shakers now?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:45 | 2906881 Precious
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Police used to have to articulate a reason for even detaining a person.  The test was "an objectively reasonable belief that a crime was afoot, and that the suspect was somehow involved." 

Now they don't need any basis.  Just their "suspicion".  It's apparent that modern day NY cops have no capicity to articulate anything but street profanity.  So Bloomberg had to dumb down the rules.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:54 | 2906894 nmewn
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We get more like Russia & China everyday...Bloomberg is apparently unfamiliar with the Fourth Amendment.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:24 | 2906950 Precious
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Do the police in Russia and China check the box on the form before breaking your arm?

[x] Still breathing

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:35 | 2906978 nmewn
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lol...I'm gonna say after...that way its accurate to the known circumstance of an arm being broken.

We didn't do it, he just started confessing to everything and flailing around with one arm!!! Then we asked him what's wrong with your other arm and he told us it was broke and he needed medical attention pronto. The confession came about voluntarily don't you see?

Very efficient, though just slightly dodgy ;-)

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:44 | 2906993 Precious
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"Lower that soda VERY SLOWLY and get down on the ground."

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:48 | 2906998 nmewn
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Or we'll fire 47 shots and hit ya once!!! I'm out of ammo and off for a movie & dinner.


(Paranormal Activity 4...oooh, want to see it)

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:10 | 2907031 Stackers
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Maximum number of people in Gulag system at any one time - 1.7 million

Current U.S. jail population - 2.2 million

The Republic is dead

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:59 | 2907091 kaiserhoff
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Thank gawd for the English subtitles.  Otherwise, I would have thought this was Ganja-land.  I FART NEW YAWK!

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 07:22 | 2907495 GetZeeGold
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Fondling in public is strictly forbodden......unless you got a badge.


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 10:54 | 2907665 Benjamin Glutton
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TPTB are clearly aware, having used NY,NY to launch a financial attack on the several States and the world, that this Martial Law type action is necessary to protect the City and their ongoing operation. Most likely there has been a well guarded declaration of Martial Law,imho.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 11:57 | 2907770 3ringmike
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You don't know how lucky you are boy

Back in the U.S.

Back in the U.S.

Back in the U.S.S.A

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 20:11 | 2907106 aint no fortuna...
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Shit, those assholes are almost as bad as fucking bankers!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:30 | 2906966 knukles
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Your papers....

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:38 | 2906982 nmewn
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Whoopsie...wait, wut? ;-)

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:49 | 2907000 WonderDawg
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Yo Knuksie! How you doing? I hope life is treating you well.

Your papers. Now.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:28 | 2907180 knukles
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Hey my man, been missing you!
Thought of you numerous times.
Doin' well, no complaints.  All my fears and conflicts are figments of my imagination.  Elevating the conscious contact to new, amazingly more healthy and fulfilling levels.
Doing very well, my friend.
How are you?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:30 | 2907184 knukles
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Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:09 | 2907028 Poetic injustice
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Show me your ausweis, schnell!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:20 | 2907042 insanelysane
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Immigration papers or health insurance papers?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:01 | 2907243 DaveyJones
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You're right the fourth is dead

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:38 | 2907276 tip e. canoe
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add it to the list

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:15 | 2907307 Oh regional Indian
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But the core issue is the 4th Amendment to what?

A document that was created to deceive in the first place. The CONNEDstitution?

Shirley you are Joe King!


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 07:51 | 2907501 nmewn
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Perhaps you're confused on what the Constitution is. It is simply the framework for a federal government to exist, how it will operate. That is all.

The Bill of Rights is completely different. That is where you will find the Fourth Amendment. I guess you could say the Bill of Rights is a document of the peoples great mistrust & suspicion on what a federal/central government would bring on them or turn in to with the passage of time.

The People would not consent to a federal government (the Constitution) without it. Throughout its original ten amendments you cannot find one thing it allows the federal government to do. What becomes apparent to all but the seriously deluded is this is a document (the Bill of Rights) that is specifically saying what the federal government CANNOT DO through the Constitution to the People.

That is why you are recieving junks.

To attack the Bill of Rights (and the Fourth Amendment within it) is to attack our basic human rights.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 08:56 | 2907546 Oh regional Indian
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nm, appreciate the insight. But the fact of the matter is that the very legal basis (and verbiage on which the Constitution is written (the 4th is TO the constitution and a part OF the Bill of Rights) is suspect. There is tons of scholarly research, Judgements of various district, appelate and Supreme court(s) that have long shredded the constitution.

For example, the basis of the 4th is via English law which said (paraphrasing) that a man's house is his castle etc. And yet, no one in the 50 states owns their property outright. There is no allodial title holding by citizens.

Everywhere else, you are on federal land or via various other legalease, on state land but still under federal jurisdiction. Maryjane is great at showign the Feds true reach vs. state jurisdiction.

So, if you take eminent domain cases (too many to count, the railroad ones from back when are especially instructional), no one owns outright.

That goes right to the root of this issue. Search and seizure is happening on land you are merely leasing from the King (and his keepers).


This is how I believe it is (as in this is how I've read it).

Thus my stsatement above. It's a CogDiss inducing concept, that we are not free (even here in India, only worse, MUCH worse).



Via Wickedpedia

Like many other areas of American law, the Fourth Amendment finds its roots in English legal doctrine. Sir Edward Coke, in Semayne's case (1604), famously stated: "The house of every one is to him as his castle and fortress, as well for his defence against injury and violence as for his repose."[2] Semayne's Case acknowledged that the King did not have unbridled authority to intrude on his subjects' dwellings but recognized that government agents were permitted to conduct searches and seizures under certain conditions when their purpose was lawful and a warrant had been obtained.[3]


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 10:01 | 2907591 nmewn
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"...Judgements of various district, appelate and Supreme court(s) that have long shredded the constitution."

All true.

We agree, which is the main thrust of my point. They (and we) realized from the point of the inception of a central authority, the attacks would begin in earnest under many different pretexts. Its why it was put there to begin with, an attempt to restrain it. There can be no dispute that the BoR is central authority is quite the opposite.

But now you've introduced another (or the other) side of the equation...which is taxation.

There are two ways to do tax or pay for play (allodial) . I'm actually fine with either and lean toward allodial. Just realize that when your neighbor attacks yours or tresspasses on yours or your house catches on fire you can't call on the police (in service to the sovereign) or the fire department (the same) for protection and expect him to be there without a negotion on the price for him to come to your rescue.

At the end of the day...whether or not Churchill actually said this to Lady still rings true in many ways in life, relationships, ownership and taxation..

"Would you sleep with me for a million pounds?" Churchill asks.
"A million pounds?" says Lady Astor. "I’d have to think about it first but, in all likelihood, yes."
"How about for a six-pence?"
"Why I never!" Lady Astor huffs. "What do you take me for?"
"That, my dear," says Sir Winston, "has been established. We are just negotiating price."

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 10:15 | 2907606 Oh regional Indian
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Obliquely apropos joke nm, I get it. ;-)

The establishers of the establishment made sure the goal posts were on wheels and they decided how far apart and where they went.


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 10:21 | 2907613 nmewn
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And of course I was only referring to taxation of property (real estate)...not other taxes. (Your response had me blocked for an edt.)

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 18:21 | 2908415 Abitdodgie
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I have allodile title (land patent) on my property .

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 18:33 | 2908439 nmewn
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Where at...New Zealand, tribal, Ireland?

I got interested in the whole thing from a next door neighbor (WWII vet) who held an original grant in Georgia. The state bureaucracy (you know, the little 24yr old, glass wearing geeks straight out of college with the clipboards trained in the art of douchebaggery that can't find a real job) tried to claim he did not have mineral or water rights on his own property.

The state lost in its own court ;-)

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 09:00 | 2907548 Race Car Driver
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You're still believing the lies your teachers told you.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 09:54 | 2907585 tip e. canoe
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believe you me, i nose where u coming from, or my name's not Shirley :)  

after rereading some of Patrick Henry's writings/speeches recently, it seems that the ultimate Con (and i do agree that there was one) was the delay of the discussion of the principles of what is contained in BoR until the document went to the states for ratification.   it diffused the debate so that the AntiFederalists would be split up -- the ol' divide & conquer tactic.  if you read any of John Lansing's letters during the Convention before he split in protest, what is clear is that the ConCon was framed by deceit, duplicity & power politics.  

also, while not having much of a distinction on the surface, attaching the Bill of Rights as "Amendments" voted in by Congress instead of being contained in the original document like it was in the VA Constitution, in many ways neuters the BoR in the public consciousness, whereby there is a subtle hint that these were rights given to us by the FedGov (and thus able to whittled away), rather than rights that all of us are endowed with at birth.

simply by labelling the proponents of liberty and decentralization "Anti"Federalists was a sly trick of language to frame their argument in a negative fashion, ironic considering that the principles that the "AntiFeds" were defending were precisely the principles that the "Revolution" was fought for, or so we were told...

with the foundation built in such a manner, it should not be surprising why we find ourselves with such a Leviathan :: slick on the surface and crumbling at the core.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 10:07 | 2907595 Oh regional Indian
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I hear/read ya tippy.

Meanwhile, everyone take a gander at this, tells a lot in a cartoon (yay!!!). 

Leagle-unease! :-)


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 05:26 | 2907469 LMAOLORI
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Welcome to the Brave New World

Your move, creep: Researchers building RoboCop policeman

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 16:13 | 2908189 algol_dog
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I see cops acting like assholes and citzens acting like assholes back. Is it any surprise that such exchanges are likely to end up badly for the man on the street, as opposed to "NY's finest"? How about keeping your mouth shut, other than yes sir & no sir, and acting afterwards through filing complaints or lawyering up. Don't give the bastards the satisfaction!

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:38 | 2907338 ajax
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Ever heard of "ADBLOCK"???

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 03:52 | 2907450 e_goldstein
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The big question is: does Wells Fargo actually think they are going to pick up business from ZH readers?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 15:55 | 2908156 Cathartes Aura
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maybe some will finally jump from their Bank of America accounts, more than a handful of zeroH'rs still invested. . .

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 20:29 | 2907128 SilverFish
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Thats the problem with ever defeating corruption. As long as there are willing tools to do their bidding, the command will never stop. Blame has to be laid on the tools as well. Dont like it, get a different job. Corrupt leaders can be thrown in prison, but thats just one person and can be replaced with one just as bad or worse quite easily.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:31 | 2907330 Precious
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They are too desperate and stupid to stop doing their "job".  There is always an endless supply of willing and able scum.  Sainthood is for martyrs.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:13 | 2907368 ajax
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Why are you are so astounded by this?? Haven't any of you seen "The Wire"???

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 11:52 | 2907760 mkhs
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Is that a  documentary or a Hollywood fantasy?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 16:00 | 2908169 Cathartes Aura
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between the volunteer military & the many variants on get-paid-to-shoot servicing the Homeland, there will always be jawbs for the Uni-formed thickneck'd. . .

with benefits.  ^^

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:28 | 2907326 GAAPpreNixon
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Exactly. What is left out is the deliberate psyops, intimidation, sadism jollies that is behind this evil. If it was just a "get more 250s" numbers game, it would be easy to have local cops team up with locals on the street to scam the head honchos. The cops would get their promotions and the street would be okay with the game.


Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:39 | 2907344 Precious
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Each person will get their own 15 minutes of "frame".  Someday.  Sometime.  Somewhere.  

Broken tail light.  Not wearing a seat belt.  Drifting over the median.  Any pretext.  Any lie.  

No judge or jury will matter when the chiefs and the mayors are dispensing the sentence.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:54 | 2907008 Chupacabra-322
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The NYPD and CIA's Criminality goes much deeper than "Stop and Frisk."  I see we've forgotton about the following: 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Three months ago, one of the CIA's most experienced clandestine operatives started work inside the New York Police Department. His title is special assistant to the deputy commissioner of intelligence. On that much, everyone agrees.

Exactly what he's doing there, however, is much less clear.

What's the CIA doing at NYPD? Depends whom you ask

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:12 | 2907032 Poetic injustice
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Consulting on interrogation tecniques, and optimal amount of waterboardings. "We can break anybody", as their motto goes.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:27 | 2907124 Ident 7777 economy
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VERY touching video put out by THE NATION ... a nearly-pure propaganda piece, I say nearly, because there is a really, really small grain of truth to it ...








(The socialists -er- communists at THE NATION don't have an anti-America, anti-law enforcement agenda that shows through in this proganda and their other publised material ... do they?)




Sat, 10/20/2012 - 22:12 | 2907210 tickhound
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One may consider the source.  But it shouldn't detract from the reality of an ever encroaching police state.




(Nor should one disregard everything you may contribute simply because only a self-centered person -er- egoist would post in this fashion.)





LOL.  This is like the narcissist who tried to go stealth but found out he couldn't. 

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 22:57 | 2907216 Ident 7777 economy
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"One may consider the source.  But it shouldn't detract from the reality of an ever encroaching police state."



As I said, it does contain a grain of truth.


But don't push it, tick ...



(BTW, tick, don't you ever reach the point where you'd like to, um, how can I put this delicately - um, see some of these 'mutts', the 'undesirable element' urged to move on out of an area? I mean, after awhile, it's either "shape up or ship out" is the message the NYPD is trying to convey to some of these 'mutts' who never learned certain social skills in their fatherless 'homes' ...)





Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:07 | 2907244 Precious
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Hey look.  Doublespacing power fucktard precinct squatting swat Nazis.

Everywhere they go, it's a contest to measure their dicks.  Nice badge, code talkers.

By the way.  You suck.  You're idiots.  And I could kick the shit out of any one of you, at my pleasure.

Your police pensions are meaningless because you spent too much time driving around like a douche and now you're just a fat bunch of paranoid motherfuckers with heart disease and no friends but your ugly, stupid, retired cop pals talking about the good old days when you used to pound high school kids for fun.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:26 | 2907262 Ident 7777 economy
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Calm down lady.



Take a chill pill and a few deep breaths; here, use this Jack-in-the-Box brown paper bag for your acute case of self-induced hyperventilation!




Then if you're serious, take it up with the commissioner, or the civilian review board or something else constructive (like a bake sale or a cookie drive) ...




PS. Wanna go on a ride-along sometime?




Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:34 | 2907264 Precious
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Wait.   Did I hear you right?    "Baaaa?"

Anyway.  Like I always say.  Eat shit motherfucker.  

And ask your captain to buy you a new K-pro, pussy breath.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:38 | 2907273 Ident 7777 economy
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Ratings time! Time for a review of your job performance:


F - for attitude, it appears 'bad' for lack of better terminology


F - for lacking requisite social skills iin handling an adverse social-confrontation situation


D - Defusing a situation: Inadequate positive redirection or deflection of a situation to a positive end


C - for communications skills; they were mimimal, but adequate. Room exists for considerable improvement and refinement when dealing with the public.



Overall appraisal or grade:


E - Subject requries substantial address of shortcomings; may require re-admission through entire course or dismissal as being inadequate for the post or postion. 





Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:55 | 2907278 Precious
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Congratulations.  You completed another Form 250.  Just like they axed you to.  Well done.  Now be carefull out there, dipshit.  And don't forget your Prozac, fucking robo-goon.  You're the one taking a ride like a NY naked cowboy.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:05 | 2907365 Overfed
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Cops don't listen to reason, communicate, or defuse situations. You have the right to humiliating compliance or get your head busted.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 18:44 | 2908458 Abitdodgie
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Cop's are the 3rd dumbest motherfuckers on the planet ,2nd  people in the services that actually think they are defending America . 1st are chemtrail piolts. Actually all 3 are interchangerble.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 16:19 | 2908199 prains
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Ident 69


man you've spent way too much time face down in your own pie


you're just another douche waitin for his tits to grow, happy life fuckwit

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:30 | 2907258 tickhound
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Whaddamean?  Some of these mutts have fifty dads.

But to answer your question without any fluff, yes... And not because they are "mutts"... But because they may be individuals that will encumber society, seemingly no matter the paradigm or formula.

However we should examine and address the reasons we have SO many so-called "undesirables" instead of overdosing on all this pre-emptive bullshit here and abroad.

But in our paradigm, this won't happen.  Because it would mean addressing the real problems of our paradigm, and that won't happen.

I mean, and not to get krishnamurti on your ass, but it really is "no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

Ultimately, and IMO, its not these individuals who make this a sick society, it is the sick society that makes them.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:53 | 2907282 Precious
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Family Guy.  How many concussions did you get when your uncle was using your head for a soccer ball?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:05 | 2907296 tickhound
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Somebody give this dickhead and badge and a gun.  He'd be perfect for the force. 

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:54 | 2907319 Precious
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<- Society makes individuals sick

<- Individuals make society sick

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 02:43 | 2907425 AetosAeros
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I chose the individual. When we as individuals accept personal responsibility and stop using 'society' as the reason for all our ills, we'll open our eyes and engage our minds to no longer support those individuals who are perpetrating the frauds, the beatdowns, the drug peddling (Monsanto and Big Pharma) and all the other societal needs we are told we have to have/endure/live up to.

It starts at the local level. Stop supporting McD's, pull your money out of the Ponzi based 401k's, stop making deals with yourself that 'in order to fight back I must accept this evil product'. If you really had the will and the vision, live the walk, and ALSO talk the talk to others who are not enlightened enough.

Too many are weak, unmotivated, and mentally willing to accept all the things they can't do, rather than spend an ounce of energy and change that which would most benefit them: Themselves.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 19:15 | 2908489 SubjectivObject
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I chose society.  If the comptrollers of power did not act like the venal mammals they are, the rest could be brought along in time.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 09:05 | 2907552 Cardinal Fang
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Doh! Didn't the kid say his father was on the job? Typical LEO, you guys all have severe cognitive deficiency.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 22:28 | 2907219 TeMpTeK
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they stop and frisk the middle classes wallets too.... speeding. seatbelt talking on the phone, parking crooked.. too close to your own driveway..SHAKEDOWN... This is a direct result of New Yorks welfare state....Cops are nothing more than tax collectors now.... They wouldnt know what their oath was if it slapped them in the face.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:42 | 2907346 GAAPpreNixon
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It goes WAY beyond profits from tickets using the Georgia or Texas MO. THIS is about psychological warfare to undermine, demoralize and ultimately destroy targeted ethnicities.

Russell Means has a LONG video on how this works.

Welcome to the Reservation:

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:03 | 2906805 max2205
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Go see the movie Brazil

Ps I fucking hate these ads Disney right now!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:11 | 2906823 Tyler Durden
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For some inexplicable reason, Zero Hedge is ineligible for ECB, POMO and "small business administration" magic money tree funding...

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:33 | 2906851 Money Squid
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If the Tylers understand the markets they can make a killing and pay the expenses and hand out free ZH thongs. That way the bogus market is funding the one site that reveals the scam. Very Tyler Durden like eh?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:39 | 2906856 NewWorldOrange
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I constantly wonder if they "put their money where their mouths are". They're financial geniuses and also see reality for what it is.

And yes, very Tyler Durden-like. Which is ironic, because most anytime someone posts anything here about "BTFD" (it's worked spectacularly this year) or otherwise trading the system that be, the comment is usually very much junked by the do-nothings who are unable and unwilling to adapt and are frustrated and angry at anyone who can and does.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:25 | 2906893 Precious
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I wonder how many people naively moved from Brazil to New York city.  "WTF?"

Not only do the police stop people at will, they can't shoot straight either.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:48 | 2906999 Urban Redneck
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Do you have any idea how many people the police in São Paulo and Rio shoot each year, NYC is Mayberry in comparison.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:22 | 2907013 Precious
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<- São Paulo

<- Rio de Janeiro

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:15 | 2907036 wee-weed up
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Trying to escape... of course!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:28 | 2907266 Sabibaby
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It won't be long until cops in NYC are shot by their friendly men in blue. That's the hilariously ironic part. Hopeful Mayor Bloomberg will be in the vicinity when the bullets fly!

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:02 | 2907363 GAAPpreNixon
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If the price of adaptation is to corrupt and debase yourself through the rejection of morality in regard to investment choices to the point of turning into a human pretzel, then it is a choice that should not be made because, like the predatory capitalist industrial revolution, it is accelerating the destruction of the biosphere and Homo sapiens.

Or, you can limit your calculus to profit and ignore all that touchy feely shit like surviving and improving society. That's what got us here. Good luck with that.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:50 | 2906898 CH1
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If the Tylers understand the markets they can...

Demands for free shit don't belong on this site.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 22:58 | 2907239 Money Squid
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Damned dirty ape !  I was not asking for free shit Mr. Bozo. I was making a funny. I just finished butt chugging a fine merlot and am ready to unleash the caps lock. Do you feel lucky, punk ?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 09:14 | 2907557 CH1
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Seriously, a <sarc> tag would have helped. I didn't get it and apparently was not alone.

Hope you enjoyed the merlot.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 15:27 | 2908116 BigJim
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'butt chugging' a fine merlot? What's that - having a wine enema?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:33 | 2906971 knukles
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Oh, just think of the irony, Tyler.
All these fucking geniuses and they can't even figure out which browser and add-ons .............

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 03:42 | 2907429 AetosAeros
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Pardon me for jumping on your comment to post this, but it did feel appropriate since all these mental midgets and shills are using the site to start derailing the comments. 


With that said, this is for you fucking morons who act like your all that, but couldn't figure out a browser or a add-on. Oh, and for the corporate, government, and privately funded shills: NOT using these shows exactly what type you are, as most agencies don't allow software changes to company property, so after this, the continued bitching is showing us even better which one you is.:

Download Google Chrome as a web browers:

Install and run (read the fine print, if you can, so it doesn't change any previous home pages, or have you take part in anything else you don't like)

Then go to these web sites and install these adblocking and cookie-enabling-blocking programs which help to free up the uselsee pop ups and banner ads (I haven't had either in over 4 years, maybe that should enlighten you a bit)-

Again, this is a suggestion, and if you have trouble installing, or don't understand the fine print or instructions, why the hell are you reading ZH and then trashing the Tylers? Takes the term moron to a whole new level.

Thanks Knuckles for the spot :)

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 06:14 | 2907483 OldPhart
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Why in the hell would I want Google to be able track my every move through the internet?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 15:51 | 2908150 Conax
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You don't really need google anything, running Firefox and 'adblock pro' add-on, I've never seen any ad on here.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 09:53 | 2912486 awakening
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Been doing that since FF 2.0 and ABP ~1.0 (among other add ons), ABE is apparently a better alternative to ABP because it has a more zero tolerance approach of ads (even if you uncheck 'allow some ads...' in the latter).

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:49 | 2907002 GoinFawr
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Tylers get my two cents on a regular basis. On top of that there is always the 'donate' button that even the echochambermaiden sock poppets ought to feel obligated to explore once in awhile, seeing as ZH and commentors like me are providing them with a living.

TITHE bitchez! 

In all likelihood Tylers are simply maximizing their ROI because Marla wants another bridesmaid's gown and a fresh packet of condoms.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:22 | 2907173 tickhound
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I bought a couple zh t-shirts... A gift that keeps on giving everytime I wear one.

PS Tylers you're out of large "evil speculator" t's... like forever now.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:07 | 2907249 Real Estate Geek
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I, for one, would welcome a new run of ZH T-shirts.  I'd buy several.  How about it, TD's?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:46 | 2907281 tip e. canoe
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nor are they receiving too much money magic donations from the piggys who love to hog bandwidth like Mr. 77777.

don'ate or don't bitch.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:23 | 2906835 James_Cole
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Guess you've been searching for kids stuff? It's google adsense, they follow you around and target ads to what you've been searching elsewhere.

Everyone complains about the type of ads they are getting without realizing how it works. I'm getting bank, travel and tech ads. 

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:41 | 2906873 JPM Hater001
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I'm getting leather, beer, and something about weekends in Amsterdam for under $600.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:48 | 2906887 buzzsaw99
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clear your cookies max. flippin' space monkey. :yuk yuks:

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:14 | 2906936 bank guy in Brussels
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On my ZH ads here in Belgium, I get pretty girls in four different languages telling me that I, too, can make money trading fx, options, and securities

Some of the pretty chicks are wearing eyeglasses so I know they are smart

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:34 | 2907059 NewWorldOrange
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I'd probably like those ads. Might have to disable adblocker next time I'm in and around the Low Countries.

BTW bankguy, I appreciated your comment re: the DTCC. Byrne's iste, before it was revamped, said pretty much what you did. I kind of view the DTCC as the nexus between the "real" economy and financial system and the shadow system of banking, international money laundering, weapons and human traficking etc.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:50 | 2907283 tip e. canoe
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Se-Cede and Co.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:19 | 2906946 perchprism
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I'm getting ads for  islands with at least 100 square miles, retired nuclear-powered submarines, and MoonRaker-style shuttle craft.


Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:31 | 2907267 lasvegaspersona
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that's cool

one submarine could power a small city for years. How cool would it be to just take the power plant and plop it down in the middle of NoWhere Utah, put in a well and live with free power. I have just the place in mind if anyone has a line on said nuc power plant...

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 22:19 | 2907212 NidStyles
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ADs? What are those?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 07:16 | 2907493 laomei
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A thing that idiots seem to still see.... 

Try this: Turn off adblock for like 5 minutes and wander around online at the sites you normally go to.  Yes, I know, it's really fucking horrible.

Now turn back on adblock and laugh at what the unwashed masses are too stupid to know how to disable.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:52 | 2906902 SubjectivObject
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"Ps I fucking hate these ads Disney right now!"

But it's your fault they are there!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:04 | 2906915 Precious
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Go figure.  I keep getting ads for deodorant and Tic-Tacs.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:21 | 2906948 CH1
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Umm... Firefox, Cryptohippie, Tor....

Why waste yout brain-cycles on vapid, manipulative ads?

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 02:05 | 2907409 mkkby
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What brain cycles?  These are mostly Mericans you're talking about.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:08 | 2906816 Bob
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Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:08 | 2906817 john39
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Trace it back, the police are receiving training from Israel:

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:31 | 2906850 Oldballplayer
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Oh my God....enough with the jew hating.  We get it.  The zionist jews are the reason the fucking sun did not come out today.  Why aren't YOU doing anything about it.  If you feel so deeply about it that you have to spread this carap around on every thread you should take up the cause and just go push them into the Med, one by one.

Otherwise it gets really boring to hear everything is the Jews fault.  Between you guys bashing the jews, and obama blaming everything else on Bush, it is getting pretty tedious around here.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:38 | 2906868 john39
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"we" get it? based on your post, i would say not.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:42 | 2906877 JPM Hater001
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I get it.  So it must only be you.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:21 | 2906921 francis_sawyer
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"Jews are born with raging fanaticism in their hearts..... I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race."...

(Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron, 1771) - VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher


Let's call it the ugly truth... But it DOESN'T have to be this way... I will cease my DISSENT when the rhetoric does...



STOP IT... Stop it all...

- Stop usury/slavery based central banking interests

- Stop the Apartheid State of Israel practice

- Stop the unnatural over-representation in 'propagandized' (media ~ entertainment ~ news)

- Stop encouraging ethnic diversity while PRACTICING the opposite

- Stop zealous attempts to control & manipulate political structures & idealogies

- Stop being thieves

- Stop 'clan' based attacks (bent on profiteering) on social structures such as law & medicine...

After that... You can be my friend... Until then, you'll simply remain a bunch of pussies on the sidelines who will NEVER be accepted by ANY society over the long term... You will, IN FACT, be reviled (as Voltaire described above)...


Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:36 | 2907274 Sabibaby
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The next few decades are going to be terribly difficult for Jews. Not sure what can be done about it either.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 00:22 | 2907312 Raymond Reason
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Uh, not just for the Jews...Americans and Judeo-Christians are viewed as partners-in-crime.  Might want to change your surname to Wang or Singh. 

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:29 | 2907385 merizobeach
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Easier than changing my name to Wang or Singh is changing my address to where other people have those names.  Southeast Asia is awesome.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:44 | 2906883 Kitler
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I think you said training from Israel.

I wonder what made him snap?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:53 | 2906904 john39
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Reality sucks. Dual citizens are all over the rise of the US police state. You can't serve two masters. Point out these obvious issues, get labeled a hater or a racist. That used to work to shut people up. Used to.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:08 | 2906927 WeekendAtBernankes
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The police state that is NY is the fault of wannabe tyrants, sycophantic political lackeys, and the flock of liberal baby sheep.  Not Joooos, but morons like Emperor Mayor Bloomberg.


Oh.  Wait.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:35 | 2906973 Precious
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Are you saying we don't need fewer guns?  We need fewer Bloombergs?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:33 | 2906974 Urban Redneck
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Going all the way to Israel from NYC is a waste, especially when Führer Bloomberg and his black shirts have the loyal sheeple backing of the NY Jewish community, where in 2009- 75% of Jewish voters crossed the river Styx to vote against the Democratic candidate and for the Independent/Republican Bloomberg.

If tyranny is ever defeated in NYC it will be interesting ti see how many of the black shirts trot out the old "just doing my job" defense.  However, at the rank of Bloomberg and Kelly though the only acceptable punishment from a court is the gallows (even if a good il Duce reenactment from the Statue of Liberty would be infinitely more satisfying).

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:32 | 2907056 disabledvet
Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:23 | 2906952 CH1
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Oh my God....enough with the jew hating.  We get it.

Not yet... These trolls are paid by your overseers, who don't like the conversations here. Crying Jew is the great distraction.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:57 | 2907085 machineh
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He's upset that even the milquetoast protestant churches have finally spoken out against apartheid Israel's vicious occupation:

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 20:06 | 2907099 john39
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Bunch of racist hateful rednecks. /s

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 20:45 | 2907137 swamp
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Don't you know the jews started the zero population growth here in the USA, for white gentiles, not other groups and not jews, they are exempt from interracial marriages too, to save their purity.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:26 | 2907176 Cathartes Aura
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I realise your concern has been addressed by many posters already, but I thought I'd include some of the actual article linked:

During the Bush administration, Israeli-American dual citizen and Director of Homeland Security Chertoff mandated that American police forces be trained by Israeli groups in crowd control, counter-terrorism and intelligence gathering.

Since that time, shootings of unarmed civilians has gone up 500%, attacks on legal political protests by police have become a scandal and huge stockpiles of ammunition and military heavy weaponry have been distributed to law enforcement groups in every region of America, both local and federally controlled.

this includes both of your phobias, "zionist jews" aka dual-citizens in amrkn government, with power over "amrkn citizens" AND the dreaded "Bush" man.  while it may be very boring for you to have to read truths, eventually you'll either get it, or give up reading.

the choice is yours, but the truth exists either way.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:39 | 2907277 lasvegaspersona
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you are wasting your breath...these idiots believe what they want....I have never met a Jewish banker but I have known dozens of great Jewish doctors. They run the normal gamut of great to asshole just like e very other group...but here at ZH...every evil banker is part of a great zionist conspriacy...and they know it is true because the saw it 'proved' on Youtube.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 02:47 | 2907426 Parrotile
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So it must be purely random co-incidence / good luck that oh so many in the VERY high places in Finance / Banking / Communications / Power seem to have very Jewish surnames then?

And equal co-incidence that such surnames seem very absent from career paths that do not usually provide a defined route to power, Political, Financial or Media?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:29 | 2907181 Henry Hub
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***...the police are receiving training from Israel***

It won't be long before all Americans will be treated like Palestinian goyim.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:49 | 2907284 Sabibaby
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They'll be visiting the shower before it ever comes to that!

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:26 | 2906825 Money Squid
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No sympathy for the cops. The do it because they want to. They like the power. They can just leave for another job but they will not, they will stay and do the crimal activity. They pretend to be sorry when caught, but will do it again, and again.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 17:35 | 2906858 lolmao500
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My uncle is a cop and he basically thinks that if cops aren't there, society will break down... they really think they are Gods and without them, the world just stops.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:48 | 2906892 Precious
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Notice who gets to walk around with all the guns.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:25 | 2906905 CH1
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My uncle is a cop and he basically thinks that if cops aren't there, society will break down...

Yup, so they are told every day, and so they are worshipped every night on TV.

Their bosses laugh at them in private, as petty functionaries whose egos must be stroked.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:05 | 2907021 Precious
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Lets have a community appreciation party for all the COPS !

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 20:17 | 2907119 CH1
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Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:04 | 2906912 TWSceptic
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Yep, that's why when you ask them if they haven't got anything better to do you might as well have slapped them in the face because then they will get angry and potentially agressive and you may risk more than a fine.

A privatized system would have to provide a friendly and effective service, and bad apples would be quickly removed from the business, but for some reason people think/accept only government can do the job.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 19:01 | 2907017 TarzanNe1
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Just like the privat army did in iraq right...they where both frendlyer and more effective

/sarc off


Going privat is not going to change anything!

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 09:41 | 2907564 TWSceptic
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Going privat is not going to change anything!


I'm not talking about government contracts, which is what you are referring to. But it seems the public education has paid off for you...

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 12:34 | 2907832 TarzanNe1
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In that case can you be more specific in what type of contracts you are talking about. Do you mean the same type as are developing in Greece where Golden dawn party members/thugs offer same services as the greek police does or do you mean the Sicilian way of cosa nostra?


And about my education... last time I looked the public education in Finland was way better then the privat one in the US.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 21:31 | 2907185 Cathartes Aura
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not sure about "privatized cops" - wouldn't those be called mercenaries?

amrka already has privatized prison guards. . . anything else going to the lowest bidder?

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 23:54 | 2907286 Sabibaby
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That's a brilliant observation.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:26 | 2907381 GAAPpreNixon
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PRIVITIZED SYSTEM!!? WTF do you think the NYPD is, if not a privitized system? WHO THE FUCK "donated" 4 million bucks to the NYPD  when the OWS thing started? The only difference from a fully privitized system is that this type of thug army robs money from the state to protect the elite too! In a Libertarian scenario the elite would have to carry the full fiscal load.

The elites are parasites. They HATE to pay for anything. They already have their Libertarian ANYTHING GOES WORLD plus socialist bailouts for them and predatory capitalism for the rest of us. They like things the way they are. YOU will never get anything but Libertarian lip service from them. they are allergic to level playing fields, PERIOD.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 09:49 | 2907573 TWSceptic
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Last time I checked it was a government agency. The elite benefits from current fascist system, no argument there.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 13:33 | 2907905 DosZap
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Face it NYC and Cali are marxist regimes,and have been for years.......................they suck equally.And D/C/ is the worst.

They allow murder at will............screw the residents.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:10 | 2906932 BeetleBailey
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My opinion of cops is 10% are decent and the other 90% are cunts.

Sat, 10/20/2012 - 18:25 | 2906953 CH1
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And the 10% have to hide the fact that they have souls.

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