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Mass Shooting At Brookfield Square Mall In Wisconsin
Breaking news of a mass shooting at the Azana Salon and Spa at the Brookfield Square Mall. Details still scarce but at least 4 people reported wounded and 3 more patients expected, emergency responders are on the ground, and the mall has been put on lockdown. The shooting suspect, who is said to have used a machine gun, is still at large. Updates via @USEmergAlerts:
- BROOKFIELD SQUARE | U/D SUSP BLACK MALE 6'1" 270 LBS. BALD. BROWN EYES
- U/D BPD RQST A MILWAUKEE SWAT TEAM & FLIGHT FOR LIFE IS ALSO LANDING AT THE NE CORNER OF BROOKFIELD SQUARE | UEA555
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Hillary and her UN 'trash the second amendment' mob must be cackling at this.
I wouldn't put it past Barry to create the problem with a sleeper, in order to implement the desired solution, a la Fast & Furious.
Where are those 30,000 drones when we need em? Hurry up, Barry. Us folks gotta be protected from scary machine gun terrists.
NWA.
Nigerians With Attitudes?
TSA molesting...coming soon to a mall near you!
Obviously this was not optimal....
But then again, maybe it was! Muahahahahahaahaha
-Evil Totalitarian Fuckfaces
Was Jamaican
See something say something working great
BinGO!...ding! Ding! DING!!!
Zero Hedge sensationism. It was a pistol not a machine gun.
Right, because Zerohedge was clearly the primary source, as they have thousands of correspondants worldwide.
I read several blogs and online newspapers not one mentioned a machine gun except Zero Hedge. This was complete sensationalism. Makes you wonder about the rest of the info on zero hedge.
Clearly you've never read the Journalist's Guide to Firearms.
You win the best Avatar + name combination for October :)
Which one of you fuckers got drunk and thought it a good idea to go Jew banker hunting at the local day spa?
I was going to make a joke back but then I realized you are just a sad excuse for human excrement. Can we please please please stop these Jew comments?
JPM Hater001
You missed the satire.
SUSP BLACK MALE
Um...Zerohedge. It is racist to accuse black people of doing anything wrong. Chris Matthews told me.
Clerarly, Whitey made him do it.
Hello. It's spelled, "RAYCESSS".
Did he get any banksters?
Comment relocated.
Anyone from NAR take a bullet or even a realtor?
That's right--very single person in real estate wears one of those mustard-colored polyester sportcoats and is a member of NAR. But I didn't junk you.
/s
6'1" 270lbs? Should be an easy target.
twinkies made him do it.
Video footage of the suspect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBiFJsOuEHI
Just a former Mcdonald's special task force commando suffering from PTSD
A machine gun? Really?
I know it is possible to get a machine gun with a certain, difficut to get and very expensive, license.
Generally speaking, folks cannot just walk into the local Gunz N Ammo store and pick themselves up a machine gun.
The media thinks anything with a rifle butt is a machine gun.
Machine gun is verbage thrown around too easily. I'm with ya Oldball.
In addition, if a REAL machine gun was used don't ya think more than 4-7 people would have been hit?
"In addition, if a REAL machine gun was used don't ya think more than 4-7 people would have been hit? "
Have you been to the mall lately? Must've hit some people thru walls accidentally to get that many.
Not if fired by the NYPD.
Dude they can't shoot.
"Generally speaking, folks cannot just walk into the local Gunz N Ammo store and pick themselves up a machine gun."
Unless you have a Holder License ;-)
Title II firearms must be transfered by Class 1/2/3 license holders, are you trying to trip the slow kids?
Yes I was...it had dual meaning ;-)
I got the pun and figured it was intentional, but unfortunately the unintentional stuff pervades everywhere, even below. Cheers
I see that, the lunatics are on the grass...maybe I shouldn't feed them so much corn...lol.
Take care.
I have 8 machine guns. They were relatively easy to get. I got one for each member of my live-in family.
At seven or eight grand a pop for the cheapest of the sub guns, you have a lot more money for toys than I do. For those on a budget, go get a pump shotgun and fill it with 00. You will have more fire power and a cheaper gun. When the Marines first came across AK's in Nam, they started arming the point man with pump shot guns. The man on point's life expectancy went up significantly.
Ahhh, I suspect he meant he did not pay off the federalies...
I would imagine that after (arguably) twenty + years of warfare perpetrated by Amerika that the acquisition of a machine gun wouldn't be too difficult to manage for anyone that really did want one, especially those of a criminal bent?
Probably lotsa spare SAWs and M60s lying around ...
Shotguns?
AA12 ~ better than a pump.
Where can a dude get a Obamagun?
Do y'all fight over the remote, much?
He got a free uni-remote with each "purchase" :)
M guns are not that hard to make from existing semi autos. Licenses are not needed if you are going to go ballistic @ the mall..
Not hard to alter an AR-47 and other semis into fully automatics. Just a few parts and some skill
You are correct, but filing down the sear can get you some serious time with bubba if the BATF decides to make a case on you.
ShrNfr
Like gangbangers and radical preppers give a shit about either serious time or what "the man" says.
Gully, you really need to get out more "Radical Preppers" I am and know a lot of preppers and they are well armed, loaded with all the items needed to survive, food, waters etc and not a radical among them. Do you really know any preppers? To use them in the same sentence as "gangbangers" shows ones ignorance
klockwerks
You are a dipshit who can't even decifer the clear association regarding observing the letter of the law by gangbangers and radical preppers.
I sincerely doubt that you and your fellows are absolutely positively NOT breaking any laws and never intend to.
I got to ask, your parents were brother and sister right?
Because that is the only way I can comprehend the level of stupidity you shared with everyone.
Wait, it's the gas huffing, right?
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If you're gonna call "dipshit", at least spell
"decipher" correctly.
Dewdles, You're the gas huffing.
And, You're the only one who does not know it.
Poor Gully, maybe some anger management classes might be in order or better yet, maybe you could even get a job. You could apply to MSNBC and I hear they let you vent. I can see it now, you and Lawrence McDonnel, venting together
Every single person in this country probably breaks half a dozen "laws" every single day.
Toe the line Gully. Make sure you have the right "thoughts," too. I'm worried you might have criminal "intentions" with the way you let your radical lunacy get the best of you sometimes. OK, most of the time.
When you file down the catch on a secondary sear (the thing that makes a fully auto into a semi-auto) you do not create a proper full auto gun, but create what is called a slam fire gun.
The technical difference is that the firing pin follows the slide forward and basically slams into the firing mechanism as the slide tries to close. This is a particularly unreliable action.
Also, semi-autos are not designed for full-auto action. Generally the barrels will overheat in short order.
Would that skill first require merging an AR-15 with an AK-47 to make this mystery AR-47 firearm? That might take more than 'just a few parts and some skill' and probably more trouble than it's worth.
So much fo rmy typing. Thanks for the catch...I did mean to type both...Very funny answer though
The parts are classified as machine guns and for the average soul to own them they must be pre ban. Anything else and you are looking at federal time. Better have your class three tax stamp on you when you let go with it or you will have all kinds of unwanted attention. If you plan on building the parts yourself, a few thousands off and your gun may fire out of battery taking your fingers and eyes with it. I have a machine shop and some skills, but I see such a conversion as a fool’s errand. It you want a machine gun, buy one. They cost and arm and a leg but they can be had legally.
Yeah, the confusion between assault rigle and scary looking rifles has been mangled by folks that only know which end to look into because they saw them on tv. Actually, the license to use a automatic firearm may or may not be hard to get. In Vermont, there is no lisence. What is hard to get and expensive is the tax stamp from the government that you have to use at the time you buy one.
ShrNfr
Gotta assume that anyone shooting up a day spa doesn't have a license nor give a shit about getting one.
Considering the idiot press and its knowledge (lack of) of weapons, the person could have been using a "bump stock" or he could be proficient in "bump fire". The normal idiot in the press would consider this a machine gun.
Getting a machine gun is not particularly difficult. The federal tax is $200 per year. Some states are easier than others. During the California gun ban and the federal gun ban years machines guns (aka fully automatic) were not on the list.
In case you are interested in the nomenclature:
a "round" is cartridge made up usually of a brass container, primer, gun-powder, and a lead bullet.
Sometimes the lead bullet is jacketed in copper.
The ATF issued tax stamp is a one time flat fee, not an annual tax, but a single "weapon" may require more than one "$200 fee"
It is particularly difficult to legally purchase a machine gun simply because we are not allowed to buy one unless it is in the pre-1986 registry. Have you shopped for a machine gun lately? I have. Decent ones are running $20k and up. Anyone willing to follow the law in that regard is not likely to go on a shooting spree. By the time you've decided to do that you aren't worried about a tax stamp.
Depending upon the rifle, there are commercially avialable butt-stock mechanisms that are used to modify a semi auto rifle to perform what appears to be automatic functioning.
Accuracy and control of such modified rifle is anybody's guess.
under $1000 for AR-15 plus slide-fire stock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BFarrICWs
If I am not mistaken, former Law Enforcement officers can obtain machine guns without special licenses. They can also carry across state lines. Not that this guy fit with any of this, but it is a possibility.
Yep. Given the light casualties, could have been a .22 for all the media would know.
Prediction: exactly squat-all happens about it.
The whole "mass shooting" thing really has become an American tradition.
The TSA is going to be at every public entrance while our President (either candidate) is going to push for gun control law(s). Give up your guns people.....show me how REALLY stupid you are!! Besides...if the TSA is to protect us in this expanding fashion why even push for gun control. Does't this security action not nuetralize gun ownership rights?
after that horrific boating accident I decided to sell all my guns on backpage
Check this out. More police thuggary, in sunny San Diego. http://www.kusi.com/
How dare you besmirch our sanctified masters. Don't you see them worshiped on TV every night?
Are you a terrorist?
</sarc>
The law enforcers are out of control. Arrogant, armed and malicious is a very bad combination.
wow what a fine looking sow on the right.. typical fatazzed worthless cunt in a man's position.. fvk i hate this country..
Bullish...
...for false flag-induced tyranical agendas.
a machine gun and no deaths reported, only injuries?
either this is very fishy or this guy must have been firing it for the first time ever. those ps2 games must not give quite the same recoil as the real thing.
depends on range, they dont call it spray and pray for no reason.
even so, who knew those fat fatties laying there with mud packs on their faces, cucumber slices on their eyes, and nail polish on their toes could be so evasive?
Spam can of FMJ, no doubt.
full auto is notoriously inaccurate. give me semi auto anyday..except in maybe clearing rooms. full auto 12 guage works best for that
no deaths? Who was in charge of this flop-op?
his name is Quasi Bin Laden
"All I wanted was a manicure!!!!"
- Shooter's last words before bustin' a cap at the salon
Also, being a debt slave and a shopping overconsumer is becoming an increasingly occupational hazard these days..
Relax people!!!
Axelrod just told Jay Carney this shooting is in response to a video the Romney campaign had put out that deeply offended the morals and cultural values of stupid sheep like borderline retard Americans.
Guilty parties will be vaporized by weaponized drones personally controlled by the commnder in chief.
Take a look at this "Reb. to t". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220828/US-drone-attacks-CIA-chi...
Coming soon to a small town near you.
Thanks for that YC.
This guy is just Campaigning For Obozo.
Idiot newscasters. "Sea of ambulances" and "sea of emergency responders". Talking with some guy that has no details of the event, what the officers must be feeling as they pursue the suspect. Abe repeating the same thing every five minutes because he has nothing else to say.
Black guy? In Wisconsin?
Alex, can I have Religion Of Peace for $100?
Good thing Christians don't believe in peace. One less thing to worry about.
Christianity is great, too bad it's never been practiced......
"Authorities have retracted an earlier statement, saying that the suspected shooter is not African-American, but is 'ethnic with dark skin' ."
http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/175145691.html?hpt=hp_t1
Guess this the newest PC tag. ;-).
This gives me hope about the state of race-relations in the USA.
A BLACK DUDE went postal?
Fuckin' A. Maybe we'll get a black serial killer next.
Lee Malvo, dude. Where the fuck have you been?
Lee Malvo was more just a vet with a grudge. You can count him if you want, but he was nothing at all like Son of Sam or Ted Bundy.
We whitefolk do still have *some* sports we dominate.
Don't jump to conclusions. This could be related to a tanning bed malfunction.
Wayne Williams.
A fella goes postal and the mainstream media can't stop to report it? I'm guessing he wasn't white enough or conservative enough for them all to report. Very telling. The same thing happened yesterday in the Orlando area. Four people were shot at a beauty salon.
Thursday. And a year ago in So Ca. Seems to be a new rage some folks don't know much about--salon shooting sprees? Wow.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/oct/18/4-dead-central-florida-beaut...
Branford Baumet, Radcliff Haughton... what is it with these salon shooters' names? They sound more like country club members, not crazed salon shooters.
So far I can't find any photos of Baumet or descriptions of his race? Wonder why.
http://www.wtnh.com/dpps/news/national/4-dead-in-central-fla-beauty-salo...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dead-central-fla-beauty-salon-shootin...
And Scott Dekraai is the name of the man who did something similar in Orange County a year ago.
I never thought I'd see a salon shooting trend, honestly. Bizarre.
Talking to yourself about mass murder is not likely a good thing.
a "salon shooting trend" is rather easy to understand. . .
mass shooters are always men, irrespective of "colour" - and the salons have proven to be havens for women.
do the math.
Yes, Cathartes, as I read through this stuff, I imagine some messed up tough guy full of testosterone and hate, and a bunch of women talking to each other all day, doing each other's hair, and banding together against him when he starts stalking one of them. This particular place in Wisconsin had a sign on the door, largely because of him. The woman in the Orlando area had filed a restraining order.
Perhaps in these kinds of situations, with an angry, insane guy basically mad at all women in general, it's not a big step for salon co-workers to be his "enemies," too, eh?
Whatever. It's fucked up. And clearly it's now a part of America today.
it's un-evolved ideas of "relationships" added to financial stress, and no doubt individual story tweaks, that will continue to see a rise of these types of "domestic" events.
work-place shoot-em-ups care not for innocent bystanders, by the time the gun-toter arrives at his chosen kill-spot the rage is enough to propel him to his end results.
the overwhelming majority of these stories have a couple of things in common, either a job loss, so kill the co-workers/boss - or relationship loss, so kill the bitch and any of the her friends she may have confided in. . .
but they ALL share the common angry-man-throws-tantrum because of loss of control over a situation, and zero ability to deal with said loss.
by the way, mass shooter events date back to at least post-Vietnam era, when "snipers" were all the rage.
peace Clashfan - the music helps. . .
Gotta ban guns to close the gender gap.
doubtful, when it's working as intended.
Finally, photo of Baumet. Looks like a cheery fellow every dad would want his daughter to date: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/19854230/shooting-in-casselberry
Tanorexic on top of everything else. Maybe he was diagnosed with skin cancer, went on a revenge spree then killed himself?
I'll bet this is a man who is pissed off at his girlfriend/baby's mama/ex-wife who is a stylist at this salon. Something similar to this happened about a month ago in Sioux Falls, SD: an estranged father (I'd call him an ex-husband or ex-boyfriend but all anyone does in SD is procreate like rabbits so who knows) kidnapped his children from a daycare at gunpoint, drove to the salon where the mother worked, confronted the mother's manager, fatally shot her in the head, took everyone in the salon hostage (including the mother). Eventually he released all of them then took his own life. The man in the SD incident was a black man who had fathered children with a number of white women, had been married 3 times and all by age 40. Imagine that.
That was something I considered (among other thoughts) and it appears, from very current reports, that he is an "estranged husband" of a stylist.
So this, at least for now, looks largely correct.
They had signs on the doors for ten days, warning about safety; he had slashed her tires? Reports are sketchy.
It seems police are really good at cleanup but not too great at prevention when it comes to restraining orders leading to murders. Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
I can't stomach the news reporters.
They sound like their telling a grimms bedtime story to their kids.
Basically, any firearm on full auto is utterly useless at a distance, and if you're not at distance, the weapon of choice is a shotgun, so the whole "assault weapon" jive is either blather by people who don't know anything about guns, or do know exactly how to stir up controversy and get their way (which of course, is to get your guns).
- Proud parent of a Saiga-12
But what if you are expecting variable conditions where the range may vary between a few feet and a couple hundred yards? Like, say, an urban environment?
You forgot the weight of the ammo and time needed to reload, and yes, you'd be absolutely right if we were discussing offense. However, for the rest of use who are not soldiers and are unlikely to be the aggressors, accuracy at distance is not a top priority and I'd take the shotgun over the .223 anyday. Anyway, the anti-gun people see "assault rifles" as the weak point, so they go after them instead of shotguns, but they'd confiscate them all if they could.
nice weapon..extra mags are a bit spendy but the semi 12 is way cool.. bump fire is all the rage.
Zero Hedge pure sensationalism It was a pistol not a machine gun.
Why would the FBI be there? Was this federal land or something?
Da agentz gotta lot o' time on their hands since they're not arresting banksters...
The Gap is a cleverly disguised FBI training operation.
The perpetrator may have started his killing spree in Illinois, making it a multi-state investigation under Federal jurisdiction.
BTW, isn't Wisconsin where those, uh, youths attacked families leaving the State Fair recently? Seems like Utica, NY, but with more A-hole politicians, and worse beer.
Live scanner feed to your comp. Here..... http://api.bbscanner.com/listen.php?id=36638
Ban all Malls..........
....or at least keep the women and children out.
That's a little extreme.
We just need to ban murder.
as long as no one has been killed, not interestig for the mass media, move on.
Wonder how the Christmas season is looking for that mall now?
cant go to the mall, cant go to the movies, cant go to church, cant go to the diner, cant get a manicure, cant go to school,wtf?.. all the police are good for is to show up late and wave their black rifles around and scare the shit outa everyone.. guess I will dig in the basement some more
Three people have been killed plus the suspect has been found dead. Suicide?
Porno love tryst gone bad ?
Am I the only one that thinks this is funny.
"....the mall has been put on lockdown. The shooting suspect, who is said to have used a machine gun, is still at large"
So they locked them in there with the bad guy.... and he has a MACHING GUN!!? lol.
It's standard procedure for them to lock it down and wait outside. Happens at nearly all of these "events".
If you have to go out in public, the safest thing you can do is visit only gun free zones.
The political economy of mass shootings
"When people lose everything they lose it" G Celente
Marx uses the term alienation to describe the state of the proletariat in a capitalist society and ALIENATION is the hallmark of these shootings. They are rumblings deep within the bowels of the contradiction. They are the armed unorganized blows against the system. They are carried out by the disaffected, unorganized, frightened psycotic and beaten down. They are individual revolutionary acts. Miniscule despite the media hype and unorganized, they are no real threat to the status quo.
There is a terminal phase to this: ORGANIZATION. As the system becomes more corrupt and the ALIENATED are further dehumanized by the state, through education, through mainstream propaganda, through whatever means at the disposal of the status quo, there is the risk these associated killings, in time, will become organized, that the alienated will cling to together and organize their violence and that a portion of the population will actively SUPPORT their efforts. This is not carried out at the behest of any VANGUARD or GOVERNMENT, but is, in fact, a natural progression. It cannot be disrupted unless the status quo ceases its inevitable theft and destruction. You can use your own intellect to define what the destruction is. You can use your skills of political economy and take that great leap into the contradiction between hollywood and reality.
Organization implies intellect. As these shootings increase in number and become organized, the violence will shift from acts against the unarmed to acts against logical targets. A Neo Marxist might tell you these things will happen spontaneously. There is no agency behind the madness. It simply will happen, and will be sparked by an innocuous event such as a child being taken from the home by the CPS, from a layoff by a corporation, from a mob responding to a person being tazed by the police and dying.
It's up to the status quo to reform itself before things become terminal (har har).
The biggest threat to the system would be the terminal phase coinciding with economic collapse while engaging an outside adversary. In other words the system may collapse into ANARCHY if the violence becomes ORGANIZED during a CURRENCY COLLAPSE or HYPERINFLATION while the country is engaged in a WAR with a power that can launch successful attacks against the homeland. A situation like this may be too much for the system to handle. It would be doubtful our system could DEFLECT these problems in a manageable way. It would have no means of CO-OPTING the ORGANIZED via prison or bribes.
DYODD
Ah! The Americans, your relation with weapons is unhealthy and strange. It is what your problem?
It would be the symptom not the problem.
"Ah! The Americans, your relation with weapons is unhealthy and strange. It is what your problem?"
Americans have 2 principles to live by:
If it's too good to be true, we want in on it.
If you have a problem, shoot somebody.
"The Americans, your relation with weapons is unhealthy and strange."
Meanwhile the Africans are cutting heads off anyone not in the tribe, except for children who they feed drugs and use as soldiers. The first thing the Arabs do when they have a baby girl is genitally mutilate it, the boys are raised to explode themselves to kill mostly other Arabs. The Europeans have the most violent history in the world and are poised to plunge into another massive war. The Asians are famous for the brutal oppression of their own populations. The Jews provoke the governments of all of these other groups to kill their own population.
Welcome to Planet Earth moron. The problem is you.
In the grand scheme of things, this human anthill of a civilization will rise and pass and the rest of the world and universe will continue, and for all of our importance and want for purpose in existence, none of it matters.
Do you think the organisms seeking to procreate amidst the rotting architecture of our once-was world will care about anything we hold so dearly, thousands of years from now?
What everyone in this world needs is perspective, but the intoxication of being human in this human system is oh so powerful.
Keep on dreaming that any of this matters. If it makes you sleep easier, then go for it.
Unhealthy? There is always a line out the door at the local shooting range. To quote John Lott, "more guns equals less crime".
They hate us for our Butter-Burgers.
Big black apes .... keep your distance and don't feed 'em !
My favourite story is the African, after raping and murdering the Italian girl in her own apartment, grabs a snack and takes a shit .... leaving his DNA on the toilet paper in the waste basket .... then hops a train for Switzerland ! He probably was a Muslim .... living large in the Eurozone ! Do you know where your daughters are ?
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.... and names it Monedas !
Not surprised.
I got my concealed-carry permit for WI last spring, and even though I personally use it to carry a blade rather than a gun, I can imagine how angry the very existance of the permit makes the anti-gun folks. (For reference, concealed carry was only passed a year ago.)
Maybe even angry enough to shoot up a spa in a mall.... just sayin'.