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Debate Post-Mortem: Obama's Bin Laden, Romney's Bad-Guys, And Mali, Manipulators & Moar Centrifuges

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Was it just us - or was that a bit of a snoozer? Some fascinating 'off-topic' debates that dragged us from Mali to Massachusetts 1st grade math scores, and from Bayonets to Obamacare. Some reasonable amount of agreement between the two on foreign policy punctuated by flip-flopper and weakling name-calling. Ironically, given our boxing-match meme - the counterpunches were incessant though Romney seemed to play defense more and Obama appeared to more urgently change the discussion (with little impact). Lots of braggadocio on naming multi-syllabic foreign towns and leaders. Obama won the drinking-game challenge by a long-way 53:34. Obama also won the 'time-spoken' challenge (by the narrowest margin of the 3 debates) 41:42 to 41:07. Obama's odds of an election win levitated modestly from the beginning (from around 59.5% to 61.5%). Of course, Wal-Mart got very, very quiet when the cheap China import bashing started, but luckily it too was based on generic 10 second attention span talking points, and led nowhere, so the Waltons can get back to doing what they do best. So far an Obama clean-sweep on our scientific study, which of course was highly irrelevant: all the truly important foreign issues (EU, China economic ascendancy, Japanese decline) were ignored. Why? The "Mr. Chairman will get to work" of course, showing once again who is truly in charge.

 

Obama's Intrade Odds rising modestly...

 

and wins the drinking game...

 

Bloomberg Full Headline count:

OBAMA

*OBAMA SAYS 'WE ARE REBUILDING ALLIANCES AROUND THE WORLD'
*OBAMA SAYS PEOPLE IN BENGHAZI MARCHED AS A U.S. FRIEND
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S STRATEGY HAS BEEN 'ALL OVER MAP'
*OBAMA SAYS HE IS GLAD ROMNEY FINALLY REALIZES AL QAEDA IS ISSUE
*OBAMA SAYS '1980'S CALLED WANT FOREIGN POLICY BACK GOV.ROMNEY'
*OBAMA SAYS ON FOREIGN POLICY GOV. ROMNEY IS ALWAYS WRONG
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S SOLUTIONS DO NOT PROVIDE A STRONG U.S.
*OBAMA SAYS IN MIDEAST NEED TO PROTECT WOMEN/RELIGIOUS MINORITY
*OBAMA SAYS 'SYRIANS WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN FUTURE'
*OBAMA SAYS 'U.S. IS PLAYING A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN SYRIA'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY THOUGHT CAPTURING QADDAFI WAS MISSION MUDDLE
*OBAMA SAYS 'ROMNEY DOES NOT HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON SYRIA'
*OBAMA: EGYPT NEEDS TO STAY FRIENDLY TO ISRAEL, THAT IS RED LINE
*OBAMA SAYS 'OUR ALLIANCES HAVE NEVER BEEN STRONGER'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY IS PROPOSING 'WRONG AND RECKLESS POLICIES'
*OBAMA: 'POLICIES YOU ARE PROMOTING DON'T HELP SMALL BUSINESS'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WANTS TO SLASH FUNDING FOR EDUCATION
*OBAMA SAYS GOV. ROMNEY'S 'MATH DOES NOT WORK'
*OBAMA SAYS THE NAVY HAS CHANGED WE DON'T USE HORSES/BAYONETS
*OBAMA SAYS MY TEAM VISITED YOUR WEBSITE 'IT STILL DOESNT WORK'
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND A MODERN MILITARY
*OBAMA SAYS 'IF ISRAEL IS ATTACKED, I WILL STAND WITH ISRAEL'
*OBAMA SAYS IF I AM PRESIDENT IRAN WILL NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPON
*OBAMA SAYS EVERY FACTCHECKER SAYS APOLOGY TOUR IS NOT TRUE
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY WAS INVESTED IN COMPANY INVESTED IN IRAN OIL
*OBAMA SAYS 'WE HAVE SHOWN STRENGH IN IRAN' AND IRAN IS WEAK NOW
*OBAMA SAYS FIRST TRIP I TOOK AS CANIDATE WAS TO TROOPS
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN I WENT TO ISRAEL WENT TO YAD VASHEM
*OBAMA SAYS WHEN ROMNEY CAMPAIGNED HE DID FUNDRAISERS,MET DONORS
*OBAMA SAYS HE IS PLEASED ROMNEY IS ENDORSING HIS POLICIES
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY SWITCHES HIS POSITIONS ON MIDDLE EAST
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY 'WANTED TO ASK PAKISTAN OK TO KILL BIN LADEN'
*OBAMA SAYS 'AL QAEDA IS WEAKER NOW THEN WHEN I TOOK OFFICE'
*OBAMA SAYS CHINA IS BOTH A POTENTIAL PARTNER AND ADVERSARY
*OBAMA SAYS WE LOSE COMPETITION WITH CHINA IF EDUCATION SLASHED
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY INVESTED IN COMPANIES THAT SHIP JOBS TO CHINA
*OBAMA SAYS 'U.S. EXPORTS TO CHINA HAVE DOUBLED'
*OBAMA SAYS 'U.S. IS A PACIFIC POWER'
*OBAMA SAYS 'CHECK THE RECORD' ON ROMNEY AND AUTO INDUSTRY
*OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY 'KEEPS TRYING TO AIRBRUSH HISTORY'
*OBAMA SAYS 'ROMNEY FOREIGN POLICIES ARE WRONG AND RECKLESS'

 

ROMNEY

*ROMNEY SAYS 'NUMBER OF DISTURBING EVENTS' IN MIDDLE EAST
*ROMNEY SAYS 'SEEING DRAMATIC REVERSAL' FROM ARAB SPRING TO NOW
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE CAN'T KILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS MESS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NEED MUSLIM WORLD TO REJECT EXTREMISM ON OWN'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'IRAN IS ON THAT PATH TO A NUCLEAR WEAPON'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'ATTACKING ME DOESN'T PROVIDE MIDEAST SOLUTIONS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WON'T WEAR ROSE COLORED GLASSES FOR RUSSIA'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'SYRIA IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US' IRAN IS ONLY ALLY
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NEED TO MAKE SURE INSURGENTS ARE ARMED'
*ROMNEY SAYS WANTS SYRIAN INSURGENTS ARMED IN RESPONSIBLE WAY
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I DON'T WANT OUR MILITARY INVOLVED IN SYRIA'
*ROMNEY SAYS I WISH U.S. SAW PASSION FOR FREEDOM IN THE MIDEAST
*ROMNEY SAYS HE AGREES WITH HOW OBAMA HANDLED MUBARAK/EGYPT
*ROMNEY SAYS IRAN'S AHMADINEJAD SAYS U.S. DEBT IS SECURITY ISSUE
*ROMNEY SAYS 'AMERICA MUST BE STRONG. AMERICA MUST LEAD'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE ARE GOING TO CUT 5% OF DISCRETIONARY SPENDING'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'OBAMACARE DOESN'T SOUND GOOD, CAN'T AFFORD IT'
*ROMNEY SAYS I HAVE SPENT MY CAREER BALANCING BUDGETS
*ROMNEY SAYS 'THE PRESIDENT HASN'T BALANCED A BUDGET YET'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'IF ISRAEL IS ATTACKED, WE HAVE ISRAEL'S BACK'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NUCLEAR CAPABLE IRAN IS NOT ACCEPTABLE'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WOULD TAKE ON STRONGER IRANIAN SANCTIONS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'IRAN BELIEVES THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT STRONG'
*ROMNEY SAYS IRAN SAW WEAKNESS FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
*ROMNEY SAYS 'OBAMA BEGAN U.S. APOLOGY TOUR IN MIDDLE EAST'
*ROMNEY SAYS OBAMA SKIPPED ISRAEL ON HIS APOLOGY TOUR
*ROMNEY SAYS 'AMERICA HAS NOT DICTATED OTHER NATIONS'
*ROMNEY SAYS IF OBAMA IS ELECTED I SEE IRAN CLOSER TO BOMB
*ROMNEY SAYS IF OBAMA ELECTED I SEE SYRIA WITH 30K DEAD
*ROMNEY SAYS WITH OBAMA OUR INFLUENCE IS RECEDING
*ROMNEY SAYS IT IS NOT TIME TO DIVORCE PAKISTAN
*ROMNEY SAYS PAKISTAN 'IS TECHNICALLY AN ALLY' DON'T BLAME OBAMA
*ROMNEY SAYS PAKISTAN HAD U.S. ANGER BEFORE BIN LADEN RAID
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I SUPPORT DRONE STRIKES' BELIEVE OBAMA IS RIGHT
*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN KILLING BAD GUYS'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA WANTS A STABLE WORLD'
*ROMNEY SAYS CHINA WANTS THE 'WORLD TO BE FREE AND OPEN'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'NEED TRADE RELATIONS WITH CHINA THAT WORK FOR US'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'OUR GOODS ARN'T COMPETITIVE WITH CHINA'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA NEEDS TO PLAY BY THE RULES'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA HACKS OUR COMPUTERS, STEALS IP,COPIES GOODS'
*ROMNEY SAYS IT'S CLEAR THAT CHINA DOES NOT WANT TRADE WAR
*ROMNEY SAYS 'CHINA CAN'T JUST ROLL ALL OVER US'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'ATTACKING ME' WON'T CREATE JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WOULD DO NOTHING TO HURT AUTO INDUSTRY'
*ROMNEY SAYS AUTO INDUSTRY NEEDED A MANAGED BANKRUPTCY
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WANTED TO HELP AUTO INDUSTRY GET ON FEET'
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK' TO OBAMA POLICIES
*ROMNEY SAYS 'I DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT TO PUSH WAYS INTO SCHOOLS'
*ROMNEY SAYS PRESIDENT'S PATH WOULD HAVE U.S. TOWARDS GREECE

Overall: (ironic subliminal word groupings: Nuclear Military Get World, Sure People Want World Make America, and Just Years)

 

Word-Counts:

Romney 8,745 words - a debate record for him - for a pace of 213 words per minutes - just shy of his record-breaking pace of Debate #1. It would seem "WORLD", America, and military played an important role in his evening's discussion with Iran (23) > Pakistan (15) > Israel (14) and 3x Centrifuges...

 

Obama's 7,740 words once again lagged Romneys and his pace decidely slower at more "I...I...I..." dominated 185 words per minute. It seemed 'making sure' and 'leadership' were his buzzwords but the key areas for discussion (in order of importance) by instances: Iran (20); China (18); Israel (17); Pakistan (4); Mali (2); Africa (1); Europe (1)

 

and Europe scored a perfect 'nill points' on the Global foreign policy discussions... (though Romney mentioned Greece twice)

 

So Romney wins word-count and talking-speed, Obama wins time-spoken and drinking-game... 2-2 and tie is broken by Intrade odds rising by around 2% - the winner and still the incumbent - Barack Obama...

 

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Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:50 | 2911609 Debtonation
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If Obama's relected, long guns and body armor

If Romney's elected, long Molotov Cocktails, short parked cars

No matter who's elected, long gold and silver

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:55 | 2911618 Alpo for Granny
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No matter who is elected, Goldman wins...

Long muppet stew.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:56 | 2911623 Alpo for Granny
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Sorry I meant installed not elected...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:00 | 2911639 economics9698
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Boring assed Yid moderated debate (with the goium acting on their behalf) where the Yids kept the focus on foreign policy and off the fucked up economy we have had with the moocher in chief at the helm.  What can we expect from these sick fucks running our banks and media?  

 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:19 | 2911686 otto skorzeny
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ironic- a sociopatic murderer defending a people that are the antithesis of the term

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:24 | 2911698 old naughty
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What else do you expect? What CAN you expect?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:27 | 2911708 JPM Hater001
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Most under used word in the debate- Israel.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:28 | 2911711 flacon
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Was it just me, or did that moderator refer to Bin Laden as "OBAMA"? I could have sworn he had the tongue stabbing moment of his life when he said that!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 09:00 | 2912285 flacon
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Ok I found it:

Presidential Debate: Bob Schieffer Makes the Obama-Osama Gaffe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wORKqmwLKCk

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:33 | 2911728 hampsterwheel
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It is amazing to witness a presidental candidate talk about removing the head of a sovereign State (Assad) and replacing him with a government friendly to the US - so matter of factly - like its no big deal - can someone explain to me how that is any different than when Japan marched into China? Or Germany into Austria?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:38 | 2911739 john39
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Because the U.S. is spreading democracy, freedom and the rule of law.....   (/s, just for those still alseep).

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:20 | 2912157 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Because, as all correct-thinking people know, the US is The Good Guys®.

(...and if you believe that, you probably vote D or R and think that your vote makes a difference.)

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 13:11 | 2913147 Clashfan
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Three great comments in a row there. Love you folks on these threads. TY

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:39 | 2911742 otto skorzeny
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the world is a chess board for the CIA to fuck up

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:57 | 2911780 Spirit Of Truth
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Russia's the grand master in this global chess game of Real Politik.  The CIA stands for "Central Incompetence Agency" (or "Completely Incompetent A--holes") in this regard.

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/russias-secret-war-plans.html

You all will recognize this "after the fact"....that is if you're still breathing.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 04:04 | 2911971 Zwelgje
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Crooks In Action

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:24 | 2912161 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Or, with regard to Spirit of Truth, Kooks In Action.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 05:45 | 2912009 kentmills
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Spirit - nice find. Just when I start feeling confident in my world view - you go and post this. Thanks, I think.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:37 | 2912195 AnAnonymous
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can someone explain to me how that is any different than when Japan marched into China? Or Germany into Austria?

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Easily. They were not 'americans'

'Americans' know what is good for humanity as a whole (natural rights theory) and speak on behalf of humanity since 1776, July, 4th.

'Americans' sacrifice themselves for the welfare of human kind.

'Americans' have transformed the essence of extorting the weak and farming the poor.

The burden of such activity is no longer on the shoulders of the extorted and the farmed. The burden has shifted on the shoulders of the extorters and the farmers. In the 'american' way of doing things, they get the wrong end of the shaft.

This is an 'american' world and a US world order.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:40 | 2911752 SWIFT 760
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Sorry to get off topic but the lid is blowing off the German gold scandel...

http://www.gata.org/node/11851

 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:55 | 2911619 golfrattt
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Make mine Gold BULLION minus the Tungsten, please..

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:54 | 2911621 cherry picker
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I give up

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:54 | 2911622 grunk
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I disagree with Schieffer.

I don't like teachers.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:57 | 2911634 ACP
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It's funny how the Socialist countries with the worst financial situations have the "best educational systems."

Makes you wonder why that is.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:02 | 2911650 economics9698
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Socialist love brainwashing. 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:22 | 2911689 LetThemEatRand
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Need I remind you that you are a government contractor?  Does that mean you don't have a brain to wash?  

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 03:14 | 2911947 Burnbright
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No, it just means he knows where the easy money is.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 13:20 | 2913185 Clashfan
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Well it sure isn't in teaching. And if people think that everyone who goes into teaching does it to brainwash folks, they're wrong.

Try looking into the secret societies some more before bashing teachers, folks. There are many ss folks in the ranks of the educational system, trust me.

I've noticed that anyone who falls for the divide and conquer meme of bashing teachers' unions always admits (publicly or at least to himself or herself) that he or she wouldn't do the job, especially in some vile, urban shithole.

Secret societies infiltrate certain institutions for certain reasons. Believe it or not, not all teachers teach for the goal of molding young ones for the NWO or to parasitically suck money from a broken system. Some of us are trying to teach logical structure while fostering independent thought. It can be a very honorable and important profession, and some of us make truly awful pay for a lot of hard work and little respect.

 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:23 | 2911695 q99x2
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They don't work as much and enjoy the life they were born into.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:31 | 2911721 otto skorzeny
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the socialists are good at turning out civil servants that are basically automatons.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:06 | 2911794 walküre
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like FBI, DHS, TSA goons

no common sense, no brains there

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:29 | 2911820 cranky-old-geezer
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You could say the same thing about 99% of American sheeple.  99% of them would take one of those government jobs in a heartbeat.

I don't care who gets elected.  Americans deserve whichever one they get.

There's no way this government will ever be put back on the right track.  It must collapse and die.  Then we can start over, assuming the nation survives.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:56 | 2911624 knukles
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(face in hands, small childlike sobs)

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:57 | 2911630 RmcAZ
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Gary Johnson 2012

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:04 | 2911655 economics9698
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I second that.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:23 | 2911692 LetThemEatRand
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Do you have another job lined up, government contractor?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:31 | 2911720 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck both parties, parrot.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:33 | 2911727 otto skorzeny
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we know how you libs don't really have a whole lot of respect for private property- you  know-with your penchant for collectivism. in fact-some day you may be able to move into a nice house like the Reds did in "Dr. Zhivago".

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:37 | 2911737 LetThemEatRand
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I just want to stop paying taxes to pay the salary of economics9698, and probably you.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:41 | 2911753 otto skorzeny
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actually- my tax bracket is smack dab in the middle of the one that pays the price for not being in the 1% or the 47%-so I'm F-ed.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:47 | 2911762 LetThemEatRand
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So why do you up arrow a government contractor (economics9698)?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:49 | 2911770 otto skorzeny
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how do you know that he is?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:12 | 2911805 LetThemEatRand
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He admitted it months ago.  Ask him.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:56 | 2911631 Antifederalist
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I am a fascist war monger.

No, no ,no, I am the fascist war monger.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:57 | 2911632 nestle
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Trade War with China is the way to go!!

Go Romney!!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:05 | 2911664 economics9698
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Yes I agree, let kick the shit out of the landlord and we will see how that ends.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:30 | 2911723 LetThemEatRand
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Does it bother you that the Chinese pay your salary, government contractor economics9698?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 03:18 | 2911950 Burnbright
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You are a special kind of crazy to follow around the poster above you and reply to everything he says. I might suggest Rand that you not act like a psycho.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 07:47 | 2912096 BigJim
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That's what she's paid to do.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:24 | 2911697 Unprepared
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Yes, especially that 300 thousand... no million Chinese people move from the countryside to the city every day.

 

Whatever the fuck, who's counting anymore.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:42 | 2911755 tsuki
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Yes, go Romney.  Send all those jobs to China!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:47 | 2911763 yogibear
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How can that happen? Doesn't China have the keys to the Whitehouse already. Hope the Chinese leaders like some of that Hyde Park Chicago cooking.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:10 | 2911801 walküre
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LOL

The US doesn't have a leg to stand on if there was a trade "war" between those two nations.

Obama can talk about these "alliances" growing stronger as much as he likes. There's no love for USrael outside of NY, Tel Aviv and Washington and in that order.

Russia's Putin has ASSEMBLED the world's largest oil and gas company. Russia is THE oil & gas POWERHOUSE of the world. China and Russia are bordering and loving their military alliances.

Go fuck yourself, USrael

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:58 | 2911637 Dr. Engali
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There were so many lies from both of the two official choices , but I expect that. What makes me sick is when I visit other sites the reds and the blues are busy defending their guy. Unbelievable... we all lose.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:03 | 2911652 eigenvalue
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You are neither blue nor red. Then what are you? Yellow? Brown?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:11 | 2911674 Dr. Engali
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I'm mauve.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:37 | 2912028 Dr. Sandi
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Brilliant question, since there are only two possible answers to all questions.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 09:15 | 2912335 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That must be true, since the only other possibility is false.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:27 | 2911712 Unprepared
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My little 1 spl* game has been prematurely interrupted due to an alcohol-induced coma 5min into the debate.

 

*sip per lie.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:29 | 2911715 q99x2
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Those are paid shills. The reality is, as Ron Paul conventions proved, that not many people are into wasting time with Republicans and Democrats.

The revolution against the banksters is underway. Mostly infighting at this time but they will start turning the fisty cuffs on each other soon. I guess the exposure of the Queen's pedophile ring is the beginning.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 13:32 | 2913212 Clashfan
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? You must know a lot of special people. Most folks I know are busy fighting for their team's candidate like the outcome means the end of the world.

I think your post is fanciful sentiment, unfortunately.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:59 | 2911641 cherry picker
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Americans should vote for that big yellow bird and pretend Romney and Obama don't exist

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:00 | 2911643 Cosimo de Medici
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Today the future is set.  Bernanke says he's got an even bigger QE---infinity plus---in the works, and four more years of the epitome of the Peace Prize President is all but guaranteed.

Act accordingly.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:39 | 2911746 yogibear
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Bernanke even a bigger FU --- infinity plus-- for the fixed income people. 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:00 | 2911646 grunk
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I was so sad when they closed the bayonet factory in my town, Lansing, Michigan.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:22 | 2911691 otto skorzeny
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when you take away the act of killing someone and looking them in the eye and instead do the killing remotely with a joystick from thousands of miles away then mankind is certainly doomed.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:10 | 2911802 Jake88
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It's certainly not good news for the 80% civilian bystanders murdered by drones. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:51 | 2911647 ebworthen
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More horses!

More single shot bolt-action rifles!

More drones and neutron bombs mounted on the wings!

More journalism and political science students in the Universities and Colleges!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:03 | 2911649 Marley
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Glad I stayed with the game.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:44 | 2911759 Unprepared
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Are you telling me this was just a game and they were not being serious?

 

Ahh, what a relief, I almost believed it was for real.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:03 | 2911651 JustObserving
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Intrade has Obama down 0.8% and Romney up 0.8% after the debate.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/misc/scoreboard/

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:06 | 2911668 robertocarlos
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What part of "We got Osama Bin Laden" did they miss.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:47 | 2911766 Unprepared
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The whole body.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:05 | 2911663 apberusdisvet
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Waiting for Trump's bombshell on Wednesday AM

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:39 | 2911743 TuesdayBen
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Trump will trumpet proof that F.M. Davis was POTUS's biological father, thus exposing the lie.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:46 | 2912029 Dr. Sandi
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Trump's going to tell us YOU'RE ALL FIRED!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:06 | 2911665 JustObserving
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CBS snap poll says it's a clear victory for Obama:
53% for Obama, 23% for Romney, and 24% call it a tie.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/22/1148547/-The-Commander-in-Chief-Debate-Horses-and-bayonets?detail=hide

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:21 | 2911688 guinea
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See BS at their usual shenanigans again.  This was a draw, anyone who says otherwise is a partisan hack.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:35 | 2911725 JustObserving
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 CNN's snap poll says Obama won 48-40. Big difference from the CBS poll.

 CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:40 | 2911751 tsuki
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Is that from the focus group that is 76% white and no Latinos? 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:23 | 2911700 otto skorzeny
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they are thinking of renaming CBS- it will now be TATV-TelAviv Television.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:36 | 2911734 Ms. Erable
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Why change it when it's perfect as is? (C)omplete (B)ull(S)hit has such a nice ring to it.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:08 | 2911669 Yen Cross
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Playing "lawn darts" in the dark, would have been more entertaining.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:29 | 2911717 DOT
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First one to five wins !

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:45 | 2911760 Yen Cross
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 The first one in the head loses.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:09 | 2911672 Bill D. Cat
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I'll be damned . There's a boat thingy that can go underwater . Who knew?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:27 | 2911710 Jethro
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Crazy talk there! He said there is some kind of new-fangled boat that planes can land on too!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 02:27 | 2911919 OldPhart
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He outed a top secret DARPA project, underwater boats that airplanes land on.  Currently they're working on screen doors that remain firmly shut to keep the flies out.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:16 | 2911675 lolmao500
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*ROMNEY SAYS 'WE CAN'T KILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS MESS'

Really Romney? That's not what your neo-con advisers say.

*ROMNEY SAYS 'SYRIA IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US' IRAN IS ONLY ALLY

For another war that is.

*ROMNEY SAYS 'I WOULD TAKE ON STRONGER IRANIAN SANCTIONS'

Riiiight. At this point, stonger sanctions are a blockade and that's an act of war.

*ROMNEY SAYS IT IS NOT TIME TO DIVORCE PAKISTAN

Oh really? Most Americans want to cut all relations and funding with Pakistan. Pakistan is a dictatorship supporting real terrorists. Fuck em.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:35 | 2911732 Heyoka Bianco
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I sure he meant a strongly-worded letter.

Taped securely to the front of an AGM-86B.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:40 | 2912033 Dr. Sandi
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Romney's religion forbids divorce. Instead, a Romneymerica will have Pakistan killed.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:15 | 2911682 hedgehog9999
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Long bullshit, short the people.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:15 | 2911683 Frank N. Beans
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based on the unanimous decision of the MSN to give Obama the win, I must have been watching a different fight

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:26 | 2911705 Mr Pink
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minus 1 for admitting you watched!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:14 | 2911809 toady
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I know, right?

I gave up watching debates when Gore was kicking the living shit out of W and the next day it was all 'i'd like to have a beer with W'.

The guy I think is the winner is always pronounced the loser by the MSM.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:18 | 2911684 Yen Cross
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Spanish 10year is up 8 bps. Bring on the risk/off.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:26 | 2911690 TuesdayBen
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Obama is double-A, Romney is big-league. Romney has it in the bag. Romney wins pop vote by 5-6%, wins OH, replaces TOTUS, who dumps Michelle to hang wit Reggie.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:22 | 2911693 FleaMarketPete
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If the takers re-elect their black messiah, me and the rest of the makers will leave and they can fight among themselves on making the middle class and poor pay their fair share.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:39 | 2911744 tsuki
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Good-bye.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:42 | 2911888 AynRandFan
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Yeah, FleaMarketPete, you seem a little rich and snooty.

Ever body knows, there's milk and honey on the other side.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:23 | 2911694 Jethro
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Dear word cloud generator. Please include "uh" and "um" for Obama's word cloud.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:40 | 2911750 Unprepared
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Dear Jethro,

 

Due to technical difficulties experienced by our Amazonian servers, we are unable to process your request at the moment.

 

Please try again never.

 

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Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:25 | 2911702 mr. mirbach
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Damn, that was a debate? Two stammering idots with no discernable differences on any important issues...

Obama=Romney=Losers

 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:26 | 2911703 putbuyer
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Voting for Romney.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:38 | 2911885 AynRandFan
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7 up, 7 down

perfect

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:27 | 2911706 Lloyd_Xmas
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Long Drones short horses. Undecided about bayonets

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:27 | 2911707 otto skorzeny
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My favorite is Moochelle glaring at the Romney clan in the post-debate family's huddle. You can tell she hates whitey.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:28 | 2911714 Yen Cross
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Good catch otto. I saw that "sour puss" look as well. +1

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:33 | 2911724 DOT
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True dat, she seemed shocked to be surrounded by those ofay.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:35 | 2911726 Jethro
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Otto, Wookies have been known to rip people's arms off when they become upset. The Romney's had better give her a wide path....

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:42 | 2912036 Dr. Sandi
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Maybe she just dislikes saturated fat.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:31 | 2911722 FleaMarketPete
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Obama long Big Bird, Women Binders, bayonets, and Newports.  Short jobs, the economy, prosperity, America, white people, and entrepreneurship.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:36 | 2911884 AynRandFan
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Awesome summary.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:39 | 2911740 monopoly
monopoly's picture

Tonight changed nothing. We are screwed,no matter who gets to waste our money.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:39 | 2911745 alstry
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Just automate factories and trade is no longer an issue.

Then we can automate bankers and politicians and milk off the http://www.udderworld.com

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:40 | 2911748 JLee2027
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Neither represent the American people or Christianity for that matter, so Crook 1 or Crook 2 is elected. So what? Either way it's America down the tubes.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:47 | 2912038 Dr. Sandi
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I believe the tubes are already clogged with previous chunks of America. That's the only reason it's taking so long to go down the dumper.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:48 | 2911764 AurorusBorealus
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I watched a completely different political leader than either of the candidates running for U.S. president tonight, and she made more sense than either of the 2 candidates running for the U.S. presidency.  Also, it looks as though Cristina Kirchner of Argentina has been reading zerohedge (or Shadowstats or one of the other critical internet blogs / sites).  She talked about the expansion of the monetary base in Europe, the U.S., and England, and how the expansion was not used to invest in productive capacity or infrastructure.  She mentions the influence of the major banks on policy in the West, and she notes how absurd the U.S. inflation numbers are.  For those who know some Spanish and want to hear a different take on things... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhhjI6jNE0Q

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:34 | 2911882 AynRandFan
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Kirchner is a committed leftist, to "Kirchnerism" invented by her husband, which is a branch of the Peronist Youth movement.  So, before you go quoting a rabid communista, give some context.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:44 | 2911890 Demologos
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They are only communist if you define the charade that takes place on Wall Street every day as capitalism.  Kirchner saved the nation from  becoming a Randian wet dream - every man for themselves with the strong looting the last scraps from those too weak to resist.  That would have lasted only as long as it took for all-out civil war, or another round of rule by military junta.  The Argies alive today are glad you weren't calling the shots.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:49 | 2911767 Odin
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Tyler's, how are you even coherent right now??? Barry just got me WASTED.... Let me be clear, no more sanctions in nuclear pakistan while harbouring Bin Laden for this commander in chief... I'm out of energy.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:56 | 2911776 yogibear
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Dub the debates and make them a comedy. Instead of thinking of the sorry choices we have it would be better to laugh at Obama and Romney.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:47 | 2912040 Dr. Sandi
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Hell. why bother dubbing them? That would be like dubbing I Love Lucy.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 09:34 | 2912425 TheFourthStooge-ing
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All that is really needed is a laugh track.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 23:54 | 2911779 mayavision2012
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Romney and Obama - the blind leading the blind!

 

I almost lost it when right on the heels of how bad, awful, terrifying Iran is, they both start talking about how we need to be a "friend" and "ally" to Pakistan because they have 100 nukes!

And what did Obama mean when he said (paraphrasing here) A threat to Israel's National Security is a threat to America's security?!?!?!?  What's he saying here? We must grovel to Israel or Israel will attack us? (perhaps again?)

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:21 | 2911816 Lore
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How did Pakistan come to be a nuclear power?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

"Bhutto orchestrated nuclear weapons programme and rallied Pakistan's academic scientists to build the atomic bomb for national survival."

Seems to me that this Iran threat is kinda like Global Warming: nothing is proven, but OH MY GAWD, IT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER...

Imminent Iran nuclear threat? A timeline of warnings since 1979

http://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/print/content/view/print/422252

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:21 | 2911870 AynRandFan
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Pakistan became a nuclear power because the UK taught one of their scientists how.  In all fairness, the UK was just trying to be nice.  And, they are nice, and now Pakistan has the bomb.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:01 | 2911784 Lore
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Romney succeeded in giving me the creeps tonight. That guy is going to get people killed.

Over and over, they reiterate their love of Israel. What is with that?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:36 | 2911815 Seasmoke
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you should see the senate debates tonight in NJ ........Fucking Israel is running and ruining this country !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/menendez_kyrillos_both_declare.html#incart_river_default

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:19 | 2911867 AynRandFan
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Lore

Whose side you gonna take?  The ones that stone women if they get raped, or the ones that survived the Holocaust?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:26 | 2911871 alien-IQ
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that comment is impossible to take seriously.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 03:05 | 2911942 meghaljani
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Da Joos will survive any drama they create. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:50 | 2912043 Dr. Sandi
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How in the hell old are these Holocaust survivors? Anybody who was an adult during the purge is way dead, or close enough to undead that it doesn't matter to them or us. It's damned near 70 years ago.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:10 | 2914755 Lore
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NEITHER. I reject your "Either Or" way of thinking.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:43 | 2912035 Nimby
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It's insane.  It is solely due to biblical prophesies and evangelical interpretations of them.  In other words, we have let our military posture and foreign policy be dictated by a group of people that think that the bible has to be read literally, and the earth is 6,000 years old.  What could go wrong?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:10 | 2914759 Lore
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Agreed. I have been reading some background on this "Zionism" business. It's WEIRD.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:41 | 2911831 zebrasquid
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Romney wins...Reaganesque tonight, reassured Mom and Pop Swingvoter that he was no Dr. Strangelove.

All Hail, Mitt.

 

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 00:50 | 2911836 Ungaro
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You mean "Heil Mittler", ja?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:13 | 2911863 zebra
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are you sure they are of different parties and skin color? looks like identical twins to me.

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:16 | 2911865 AynRandFan
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The most remarkable thing about this debate is the disconnect between what Obama says and what he does.  It is frightening.  The other day, he said, "I believe in capitalism, I believe in self-reliance."  Why does he say such things when it is obvious that he does not believe in anything that remotely resembles capitalism.  The political culture of black people is and will always be collectivist and Mr. Obama's thought, word and deed can be predicted by his devotion to black people and black culture.  The President of 13% of the people, but he gets every single one of their votes.  So some folks agree with me.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 02:18 | 2911909 zebrasquid
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Obama could swear to his acolytes that he wasn't (half)Black at all, and they would believe him.

It is scary.  He is a great liar.  Better than Slick Willie even.

He says what he doesn't mean to get elected, obviously.

Lame Duck Obama is not an option.  Vote Romney, even if you have to hold your nose.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 06:53 | 2912044 Dr. Sandi
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Why? It's the same guy anyway. Voting just makes people think this shit is somehow legitimate.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 09:16 | 2912328 therearetoomany...
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It is NOT the same guy.   One will work to try to facilitate our ability to at least pursue financial liberty....one will, and is, preventing it...

 

Spare me all of you 'employed' folks or folks who are well off or have a big bankroll and loads of PM....I'm talking about the middle class, slowly falling into poverty like sands through the hourglass....slowly it is happening...one poor group, one elite...the elites get to visit cuba, get to fly all over, get to eat well and hang with JZ (who really cares, JZ sucks), gets to golf every other day, and on and on...meanwhile we get to work 2 or 3 jobs just so we can eat.  The crumbling macadam, the papered windows of closed stores and businesses...I haven't seen it like this since the days of Carter...when there were dead cars on the side of the road because the 'government' didn't have money to move them.   Thre IS a difference...even if they serve to enrich the same oligarchs...

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 02:06 | 2911903 The Heart
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FOR THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN THE MASSIVE CORRUPTION AND FRAUD IN THE ELECTION PROCESS. THE LAME STREAM MEDIA HAS REPORTED AN OBAMA WIN TWO WEEKS EARLY.

TALK ABOUT A MAJOR SCREW UP. ONE IS REMINISCENT OF BUILDING NUMBER SEVEN BEING REPORTED AS HAVING ALREADY FALLEN BEFORE IT ACTUALLY FELL. CHECK THIS OUT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwvbBNohM3E

AS FAR AS THE ELECTION IS CONCERNED, WHY BOTHER. GO DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE INSTEAD AND DON'T WASTE YOUR ENERGY ON IT AT ALL. IT'S JUST A BIG FARCE.

PASS IT ON AND MAKE THIS PROOF OF FRAUD GO VIRAL.

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Tue, 10/23/2012 - 02:14 | 2911908 Weyland_Yutani
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Why is Iran not allowed to develop a nuclear weapon?

Does the United States have some sort of jurisdiction that overrules Iranian sovereignty?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:27 | 2912169 Hi Ho Silver
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Fuck Iran.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:39 | 2912205 Eugend66
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Fuck Israel, and the horse you ...... .

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 02:28 | 2911923 OldPhart
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