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German Court Demands Bundesbank Audit Sovereign Gold Holdings

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The German court of auditors (Bundesrechnungshof) has demanded that the Bundesbank undertake an audit of its gold reserves.  In an 'audit-the-fed' style effort, the court wants to ensure that the nearly 3400 tons of gold is in fact in existence - 'because stocks have never been checked for authenticity and weight'. Furthermore, the Bundesbank's gold is stored in three other vaults around the world: The Bank of England, The Bank of France, and the US Federal Reserve. The court questions the practice of relying on a written confirmation from the custodians (foreign central banks). The decision means negotiating with the three foreign central banks for physical verification but in anticipation, the Bundesbank has begun the process of shipping 50 tons per year from the Fed back to Germany for the next three years.


Germany's apparent (unchecked and unverified) gold holdings are second only to the USA's (just as unaudited levels)...


Via Spiegel:

Germany has the second largest gold reserves in the world, nearly 3400 tons. Supposedly, anyway. Because stocks have never been checked for authenticity and weight. Now, the Federal Court has asked the Bundesbank to examine the gold reserves abroad regularly.


The German central bank gold is safely stored in vaults in Frankfurt, New York, Paris and London. Checked really but apparently no one. The Federal Court has the Bundesbank now anyway required regular inspection and inventory of the vast gold reserves abroad. The auditors explain this in a report on Monday has become known to the budget committee of the Bundestag with the "high value of gold holdings."


The samples stored at other German banks stocks were also never by the Bundesbank itself or by other independent auditors "added physically and for authenticity and weight" checked. Actually talk on the subject numerous theories - so should the U.S. gold reserves at Fort Knox have long been looted.


The Bundesbank has on the USA's second largest gold reserves in the world. End of 2011 there were 3396 tons, worth 133 billion euros. After the soaring price of gold is likely to reach about 142 billion euros currently even. Secures the gold bars by the Bundesbank in own vaults in Frankfurt as well as at three bearing points abroad: The U.S. Federal Reserve Bank in New York, Bank of France in Paris and the Bank of England in London.


Bundesbank gets tons of gold from New York


The Court had determined the order of the Bundestag that the Federal Bank reviews its overseas gold reserves stored exactly. It is disputed whether the Bundesbank experienced for years practice sufficient to rely only on a written confirmation to the gold bars by the foreign central banks.


The Court recommends that the Bundesbank to negotiate with the three foreign central banks the right to physical verification of stocks. With the implementation of this recommendation, the Bundesbank has begun according to the report. They also decided to bring in the next three years to 50 tons each of the past at the Fed in New York gold to Germany to get it here to undergo a thorough examination. In the report, several points are blackened. In effect, the paper is not clear exactly how much gold is in which foreign central bank.


The information held in the Federal Bank headquarters holdings consist of 82,857 according to the report bullion stored mostly in sealed containers with 50 bars, which are kept in four separate locked safe boxes. Part of it (6183 bar) stored on open shelves, therefore in a separate vault - the so-called gold chamber. To secure the gold it says in the report: "The vault closure is double, the inner seals and the gold chamber under a triple lock."


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Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:33 | 2909580 RacerX
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so this is how it begins..

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:39 | 2909611 Fips_OnTheSpot
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50t a year. So now you know the processing time to get that barbaric relic from a tungsten bar and refine it with "correct" number.


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:42 | 2909623 gojam
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50 tonnes a year.............."if we move real slowly, perhaps nobody will notice."

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:45 | 2909639 redpill
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Gosh amidst this debt crisis involving "real" and "modern" fiat money it's awfully weird to waste time fiddling with old fashioned barbaric collectibles.

The more these events occur, the more it will slowly dawn on the western world (the east, minus Japan, never forgot it) that at the end of the day, he who holds the gold makes the rules.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:47 | 2909643 metastar
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Ha! Yet another bank stress test.

The truth is only revealed when there is a run.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:52 | 2909669 Pladizow
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Who performs the Audit??????????????

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:54 | 2909674 Manthong
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“negotiate with the three foreign central banks the right to physical verification of stocks”

“Pretty please may I see my gold?”

-- Not to worry. Although gold is not money, you have the full faith and credit of the United States of America backed up by the promises of Ben Shalom and Q-Eternity.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:58 | 2909688 Pladizow
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Obummer to label Germany a terrorist state in 3,2,2....

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:06 | 2909727 malikai
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Why bother? At 50t/yr, this is an easy scam:


  • Receive 50t/yr.
  • Verify.
  • Ship back to FED.
  • Receive same 50t again next year.
  • Verify.
  • Ship back to FED.
  • again....
Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:09 | 2909737 NotApplicable
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Meanwhile, China has bought over 550t this year.


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:17 | 2909767 Popo
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Ok, so let's crowdsource some scenarios here.   

The gold is not there.   What does the German government public-relations machine do?     Do they publicly announce that Germany has no gold?      Do they announce that in fact, it's there when it isn't?

Seems to me that the result of this inventory-taking is going to be that it's all there,  regardless of whether or not it isn't.    In which case, we the public will continue "not knowing".   UNLESS:  There's a whistle blower along the way somewhere.   





Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:22 | 2909785 Manthong
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Do what all politicians and technocrats do best..


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:28 | 2909803 catacl1sm
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"When things get serious..."

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:39 | 2909846 LongBalls
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Back in August the U.S. Gold at the NY Fed was audited by the Treasury. Spot the trend? Basel III anyone?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:14 | 2909941 francis_sawyer
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Send in Herr Geraldo...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 15:27 | 2910391 negative rates
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Can anyone say "HOOKER".

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:48 | 2909869 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Have an "Eyes Wide Shut" soiree.

Sex Life Was ‘Out of Step,’ Strauss-Kahn Says:

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:14 | 2909944 dcj98gst
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The court is just requesting an audit.  How likely is it that it will actually happen.  What are the chances of it actually happening?  10%??  I think these requests have been falling on deaf ears for years.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:13 | 2910573 StychoKiller
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Even if the Tozs are there, WHO has 1st dibs?

How many claims are lodged against any given bar?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:58 | 2909901 jekyll island
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All the tungsten coated gold came from China.  Hmmmmmm...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:11 | 2909932 JustObserving
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India imported 286 tons in the first quarter of 2011.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:30 | 2909959 mr_T
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MEXICO has its GOLD in London!

This will be the 2nd time they get jacked for Gold.

This time the pirates don't need to use their ships.

The Chilangos should follow Hugo's lead.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 22:40 | 2911591 SWIFT 760
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There is only so much physical gold above and below ground. Its becoming questionable as to how much is being bought and from what source. Australia proclaims to be a huge seller yet global quantities are not truly verified. 

GATA is a reasonable watchdog, they have more questions then answers. 

Anyway, lets talk about Iceland. Notice, msm has total media blackout on worlds only current financial recovery success story. 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:27 | 2909799 walküre
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Dummkopf! Ze gold vil rrrremain in Deutschland für 1000 Jahre!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:53 | 2910092 Mad Mohel
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Ship back to the Fed!? At this point in the game it's every mothafocka for themselves. The German's have been pacified, not lobotomized.

Germans- "Herr Bernanke, we only want to count it, we will send it back to you for safe keeping. We promise."

The Bernank- "Hey Timmy, you hear these kraut bastards? They think they're Ron Paul and want to count it. How do you say go fuck yourself in German?"


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:17 | 2909949 THX 1178
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HALOL @ 3,2,2.



Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:27 | 2909983 55 men
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Internal Investigation.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:55 | 2909676 resurger
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this post if very serious! Imagine all other countries follow suit like Germany!

IS this news posted on Bloomberg or CNBC?


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:04 | 2909718 Shameful
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He who defects first wins.  I'm sure some emergency could be found to suspend repatriation.  Like De Gaul, get it early and often.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:29 | 2909807 catacl1sm
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A classic Prisoner's Dilemma.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:33 | 2909825 dick cheneys ghost
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PressTv Germany's gold reserves-On the Edge with Max Keiser-10-19-2012

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:13 | 2909935 francis_sawyer
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Chavez is looking like a genius...

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:55 | 2913758 pupton
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No kidding.  The best way to audit and verify your gold holdings are to TAKE PHYSICAL POSSESSION.  Even a cancer ridden coconut headed marxist reject knows that!!!  The kids at Zerohedge know it...Come on Germany.  Just take you damn gold back.  Why the hell wouldn't they anyway??????? 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:06 | 2909725 Vincent Vega
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What would be serious, and news, is if all other countires showed up at the same time and all wanted to see 'their' gold. Rehypothication could become a bitch real real quick. BTW, yes this story is on Bloomberg.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:39 | 2910032 XitSam
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But they won't show up at the same time. The basement of the NYFed will be like a game of Sokoban (warehouseman), pushing the real gold into the proper slot for this day's counting.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:06 | 2909728 Lets_Eat_Ben
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It would be easy to some gold moved to where it was needed temporarily.


Maybe there will eventially be a global audit. That would be interesting.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:28 | 2909801 walküre
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German financial press makes it front and center headline news. Yes it is serious!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:51 | 2909663 Urban Redneck
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More importantly, if a Court orders it, Buba and Merkel have political cover...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:11 | 2909928 Abiotic Oil
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Expect a "successful terrorist attack" on the Fed's vaults anytime now which will result in the "incineration of all physical gold" to be replaced, of course, at full value via Federal Reserve Notes and Treasuries.

It's a tossup though whether they will blame it on Al-CIA-Duh or Ron Paul followers.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:51 | 2910754 Bagbalm
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Have they ever played Follow the Lady?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:42 | 2909808 Alpo for Granny
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For the German Southpark fans...

Puh und seine gegangen!!


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:04 | 2909917 TheFourthStooge-ing
Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:40 | 2909617 Rubicon
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Repatriation will end it!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:51 | 2909661 GolfHatesMe
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These IOUS are just as good as money

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:22 | 2909784 dugorama
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need help with the translation?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:23 | 2909790 Mr Pink
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We lost a great one today. Russell Means dead at 72

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:42 | 2909864 LongBalls
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It began with Basel III. This is how it plays out. IGNORE THE PAPER B.S. PEOPLE! The best way to do it is by purchasing physical. Any other method and you don't own squat anyhow.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:45 | 2909868 Atlasshruggedme
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You taking bets? DO they have more or less gold to cover the Fiat?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:18 | 2909952 Larry Dallas
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This is all a disguise. Nothing will be done. Business as usual. The Emperor is still and will always be clothed.

This is doing nothing but patronizing the politicians.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:58 | 2910327 JLee2027
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Germans are smart in hindsight. They can blame America when none of their Gold comes back.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:24 | 2912163 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, many of us presume an audit would reveal outrageous frauds.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:35 | 2909582 LawsofPhysics
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Audit and revalue, bitchez.  Bring it.

Can we be opptimistic that the world is becoming tired of paper promises.  One can hope.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:13 | 2909754 GeezerGeek
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A member of the German court apparently channeled Ronald Reagan and said "Trust but Verify".

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 01:27 | 2911875 JLee2027
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You have to figure they can't scam forever. Rehypothecated Gold has got to come out at some point.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:44 | 2909812 LongBalls
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An audit and revaluation of gold will soon become fact. Gold is the asset that once revalued, will repair the balance sheets of Central Banks. This is what will keep the printing in check when the new financial reset takes place. The SDR will be the foreign exchange rate monitor and liquid currency. Prepare for it.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:27 | 2909980 LawsofPhysics
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yes, and hyperinflation for all...

Prepare indeed.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:20 | 2910614 DosZap
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If it there,they had best get it like Chavez,if they ever intend on seeing it all again.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:35 | 2909584 catacl1sm
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Oh, this should be damn good. Can we get it televised?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:58 | 2909689 Wakanda
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Must see TV!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:02 | 2909710 AllThatGlitters
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Nah.  The memory of Geraldo Rivera breaking into Al Capone's empty Vault on live TV are still too strong.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:33 | 2909824 AlaricBalth
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As we looked into the vault of the Federal Reserve for the first time, all we found was an old stop sign and a couple of empty gin bottles.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:34 | 2909587 The Shootist
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No fucking way. Won't happen, only banana republics have that right.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:41 | 2909615 jaap
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Chaves für Bundesprezident.....


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:08 | 2909739 TNTARG
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Ah Ah!

Chavez already started repatriation of Venezuela's gold.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:18 | 2909772 ParkAveFlasher
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Chavez is a meat puppet distraction to imply to the sheeple, "See?  Only coked-out tinpot Latin American 3rd world dictators stand to deliver.  Trust the system, trust your paper, eat, indulge your vanities on credit, and sleep.  SLEEEEEEP."

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:36 | 2909590 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Furthermore, the Bundesbank's gold is stored in three other vaults around the world: The Bank of England, The Bank of France, and the US Federal Reserve."

Dude........if you don't physically control it you don't own it. You just think you do.

<Case closed.> 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:49 | 2909651 redpill
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Possession is 9/10ths as they say.

And does anyone really think these fractional reserve banking junkies aren't doing the same thing with gold? I can't wait until we get the first dispute over who actually owns Bar Serial Number xxxxxxxx because they both show it on their books.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:02 | 2909913 jekyll island
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I was wrong.  I guess there is a good reason the US defense budget is five times more than any other nation. 

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:52 | 2909665 mr. mirbach
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Bundesbank, "Ve vould like to see our gold now"

FED, "Your gold has been rehypothecated, check your deposit agreement"

Bundesbank, "Jah jah, still ve vant you to show us our gold"

FED, "That will not be possible as your gold has been vaporized"


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:56 | 2909680 Cognitive Dissonance
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"FED, "That will not be possible as your gold has been vaporized"

Ummm......I think you mean Corzined.

<It's the New Ponzi English.>

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:05 | 2909898 Anasteus
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Seems like the English vocabulary has definitely been enriched by a new verb "to corzine". Fortunately, for all of us non-English, it's a regular verb.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:18 | 2909955 Widowmaker
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Couldn't happen to a more corrupt and contemptable fuck. 

I wish "honorable" meant something.  On a badge worn by that faggot it undermines all authority of the rule of law.


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:30 | 2910652 RockyRacoon
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"Faggot"?  You are too kind, sir.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:57 | 2909686 asteroids
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If the FED is so sure that gold is a "relic of the past", why don't they show some balls and ship all of the gold in Ft. Knox to Germany for safe keeping?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:55 | 2910765 Bagbalm
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Der Bank der Zealy...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:36 | 2909591 Arkadaba
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Oh oh ...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:40 | 2909848 TheSilverJournal
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Why again does the IMF have all of that gold? Can we stop giving the IMF gold please?

They're not even a country, just a banking institution with the only goal being to gain more wealth and more power. They say they want to help, but they just want to plunder. After all, look at how much gold they have plundered.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:07 | 2909921 redpill
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I think you answered your own question.  That's the plan, man.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:03 | 2910134 BurningFuld
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If you are going to do a real 3 card monty you need 3 cards.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:35 | 2909592 Dr. Richard Head
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Cue Jew Nazi comments in 3,2,1.....

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:54 | 2909668 Abraxas
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Those bad Nazi's wants our precious again. Evil greedy Nazis! They took our precious from us before and punished us, yeees! Now they wants it again. They can't take it away. It's our precious!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:09 | 2909743 Kaiser Sousa
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that was funny...enjoyed the Lord of the Rings reference...

its all fun and games until someone's finger gets bitten off

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:41 | 2909855 resurger
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If you read a book by Ian Sayer and Dougles Botting - Nazi Gold you will find out that in Feb 1945 after the bombings of Reichsbank HQ in Berlin, Dr. Walther Funk the president of Reichsbank has ordered the movment of gold and foreign notes to a high potassium mine which was called "Kaiseroda Mine"at Merkers, in Thuringia - 200 Miles to the south west of Berlin.

Now here is the Irony:

Merkers fell to the 90th Division,on April 6th 1945 - two American Military policemen in Merkers Private First Class Clyde Harmon and Anthony Kline, were driving on a routing jeep patrol to enforece army orders against civilian circulation, they bumped into two French women, so the MP's decided to give them a left, after questioning in the HQ, the MP's were driving them back and one of the women saw the entrances to the Kaiseroda mine and one of them said:

"Thats the mine where the gold bullion is kept"

What was in a great cavern hewn out of dry salt rock:

"7,000 numbered bags, inside each bag gold coins or gold bars between 55-81 lb / bag . there were over 8,527 gold bars all togther weighing 98.76 tones of gold. The minted coins included a million Swiss francs, a billion French francs and 711 bags of US $20 gold pieces"

All toghter the gold bars and the coins weighted 250 Tons

the currency reserves were

2,700,000,000 Marks

2,000,000 USD

98,000,000 French francs

110,000 Cable

4,000,000 Crowns

gold teeth fillings, gold dental bridges, suit cases filled with diamonds,pearls, gems from the SS death camps.

That was one of the greatest American Nazi loots in the world ......

Good luck to the Germans on getting their money back, but was it really their money & gold?





Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:56 | 2909893 walküre
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Thuringia became part of former East Germany. Maybe the Americans got there before the Russians, maybe not. Unlikely the two GIs would run into two French women in that part of then war-torn Germany. Fact or fiction?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:42 | 2910708 resurger
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hey walkure, yes the Americans got first but they never returned the money

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:52 | 2909886 RafterManFMJ
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There's something the Germans need to get straight - bomb us at Pearl Harbor, we don't give up. Even though we knew they were coming and did not warn or prepare as we needed a casus belli for WW2; Look we sold our, and your gold to defend the dollar so we could buy BMWs, so in the end, we are all winners.

No hard feelings, Fritz.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:35 | 2910011 shovelhead
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Is that really you,  Bluto?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:26 | 2910638 DosZap
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There's something the Germans need to get straight - bomb us at Pearl Harbor,


Got ur countries cornfused?.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:37 | 2909598 VonManstein
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Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:41 | 2909618 The Shootist
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I know. Who would want all that gold plated tungsten?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:46 | 2909642 unrulian
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it would make some damn fine bird shot

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:31 | 2909813 walküre
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cradle of Barbaria = Germany lol

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:37 | 2909600 Ratscam
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while on transfer over the atlantic, i hope they not gonna loose the gold in a boating accident

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:54 | 2909630 Ghordius
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my thought, too. but gold travels by air, nowadays. because of the insurance fees

which again might have something to do with all the accidents that happen when gold travels on water...

50 tons per year? 

with 1'500 tons in the NY-FED basements we are talking about 30 years of repatriation...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:00 | 2909704 Urban Redneck
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There are plenty of incidents of planes crashing with either confirmed or rumored cargoes of substantial gold.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:14 | 2909755 dugorama
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that sounds juicy.  have you got any key words for me to begin my research on?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:19 | 2909779 Ghordius
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I'd be tempted to agree, but if they lose a plane with 50t of National Treasury on board they have to inform the same BundesRechnungsHof that ordered the audit. And no, we are talking about German State Employees, here. The BuBa itself is a National Bank, anyway (actually a federation of LandesZentralBanken owned by the "Länder", i.e. the German States, to be more exact).

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:38 | 2909601 robertocarlos
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As the Chinese might say, "So sorry, this my garden now".

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:38 | 2909602 css1971
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It's almost as if they don't trust them.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:39 | 2909604 Cognitive Dissonance
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".....the Bundesbank has begun the process of shipping 50 tons per year from the Fed back to Germany for the next three years."

Why not ship all the German Gold held at the Fed back to Germany now?

<Because it ain't there bro.>

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:52 | 2909662 redpill
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The Tungsten smelting plants in the US can only go so fast...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:11 | 2909746 NotApplicable
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Wait, I thought they outsourced that to China? Or am I to believe that there's a competitive market emerging?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:33 | 2909819 walküre
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I think it's a typo. The Fed holds 1500 tonnes of Germany's gold reserves. So make it 500t per year for 3 years.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:13 | 2909939 Cognitive Dissonance
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Typo or not (and I agree that it probably is) I repeat my question. Why not ship it all back now?

<We're gonna need a bigger boot.>

Das Boot

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:30 | 2909984 walküre
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Good question. Why allow 3 years to ship something that can be shipped over the course of a few daily cargo flights? How long would it take to physically move 1500t on forklifts or dolleys (lol at the thought) out of the vault, into an unmarked truck and to the airport? That's 300 trips in 5ton trucks. Do they require escorts? Who pays for that? I'd volunteer my time!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 08:57 | 2912275 awakening
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Wonder what the chances are they (be it the Feds directly or other interested parties) switch a large number of those trucks whilst en route for gold plated tungsten decoys? :)

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:38 | 2909605 giggler123
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Never mind - Jim will fix it

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:47 | 2909647 unrulian
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Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:00 | 2909703 tocointhephrase
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Jim is a dead perv!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 16:20 | 2910606 BattlegroundEur...
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Saville...but hey they Cramer is probably a pedo too (he's good at conning ppl)?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:40 | 2909610 Antifederalist
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Possession is nine tenths.............

Read 'em and weep boys, read 'em and weep


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:40 | 2909613 whoopsing
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Apparently " It's all good" ain't cutting it anymore

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:41 | 2909616 dbTX
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Why on earth would Germany, or any other country for that matter, store their physical off site?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:42 | 2909622 The Shootist
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Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:44 | 2909632 SoundMoney45
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Because the BIS tells them to do so.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:51 | 2909667 Shameful
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Cold War relic.  Back in the day it was pretty much assumed in the case of a war West Germany would be overrun, even with the use of tactical nukes at places like the Fulda Gap.  The idea being that German gov in exile would have access to their gold reserves even when overrun.  Now having said that the repatriation should have started in 92, but odds are the gold had already been moved through the back door then.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:53 | 2909670 redpill
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Plausible deniability

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:07 | 2909729 Börjesson
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Because for many years, they were worried that a few stray Russian armoured divisions might pass through the neighbourhood and pull a "Kelly's Heroes" on them.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:26 | 2910221 Zwelgje
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Yeah, you can always blame the Russians.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:41 | 2909619 Stuart
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gotta love google translate...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:41 | 2909621 Dr. Engali
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Don't worry it's all there...we wouldn't lie to you... cross our hearts and hope to...well hope that somebody else dies.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:44 | 2909626 bardot63
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Will this force Republicans to back Dr. Paul's demands for a Fed/Treasury/Ft.Knox audit???  Why just 50 tonnes a year???  Why not all of it right now???

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:23 | 2909789 ParkAveFlasher
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Epic POA.  My compliments.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:44 | 2909627 Kriya144
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Really? Only 1 "gold bitcheez" comment on an article like this? People people! What's going on here!? This is ZH right?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:30 | 2909810 ParkAveFlasher
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Bars or GTFO, bitchez!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:44 | 2909631 catacl1sm
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Good thing Europe closed so that we can ramp S&P back up above support levels! Bastards.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:45 | 2909634 LoneStarHog
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"...the Bundesbank's gold is stored in three other vaults around the world: The Bank of England, The Bank of France, and the US Federal Reserve..."

And ... the PEA is under which CUP? ... Suckers!

Bwhahahahahahahahah...Auditing AIR and TUNGSTEN!

Germans calling Timmay!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:49 | 2909638 resurger
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 Forced Gold  R E P A T R I A T I O N




Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:47 | 2909646 bardot63
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"The vault closure is double, the inner seals and the gold chamber under a triple lock"  If gold is worthless, why all the inner seals and triple locks?????  Wake up folks.  This is huge.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:49 | 2909653 unrulian
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So people can't see it's not there

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:54 | 2909891 trip kitchen
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Shrodinger's gold

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:48 | 2909648 Kaiser Sousa
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"The German court of auditors (Bundesrechnungshof) has demanded that the Bundesbank undertake an audit of its gold reserves."

Translation: "where's my shit mother fucker.....?"



Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:49 | 2909650 william114085
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"The Court recommends that the Bundesbank to negotiate with the three foreign central banks the right to physical verification of stocks"


neogotiate for the right to look at something which is yours?  

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:14 | 2909761 SubjectivObject
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Courteously, that means:  "To schedule with ..."

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:51 | 2909657 Bay of Pigs
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Where iz zee goled?


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:50 | 2909659 machineh
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'Benny, we've got a problem ...'

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:52 | 2909664 The Shootist
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I looked on Der Spiegel and it was the 2nd main story from the top!! Not some footnote.


Need to translate german comments at bottom. . .

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:35 | 2909832 walküre
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It is getting ALOT of attention in Germany.

Germans don't trust the FED. Neither should we!

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:52 | 2909666 pods
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The gold is there.  No doubt about that.  Of course it is owned by several entities all at once.


Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:20 | 2909780 MrBoompi
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No doubt.  The "problems" with fractional reserve banking started with the Goldsmiths.  Back in those days, they figured out you could issue 10X the actual value of gold in paper gold receipts.  God only knows what the ratio is today.

Many might be shocked who has physical possession of the gold on this planet and who really has the claim to it.  The Central Banks, and by extension their puppet governments, hate any country who has the audacity to buy gold and store it themselves.  Thus, we hear how evil countries like China and Iran are.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:53 | 2909673 Shameful
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Got to wonder if the Fed will claim "IT was lost in a horrible fishing/boating accident"...

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:39 | 2909828 Anasteus
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... or accidentally vaporized during 9/11. This latter explanation has surprisingly some merits as the gold boiling point is just a little over 5000 °F, which is still less than the temperature of thermite in action.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:54 | 2909675 markar
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The joke is China's official gold holdings. It's almost a certainty they have more gold than Germany (allegedly) has.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:56 | 2909682 No Euros please...
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So 3,400 tons of which reputedly 60% is with the FED, so yeah I guess 50 tons per year for 3 years covers what's left of it.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:56 | 2909684 Wakanda
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Wolfram!  Wo ist das Gold?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:13 | 2909940 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Wolfram!  Wo ist das Gold?

Es ist weg. Es ist alles weg.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:14 | 2910182 Wakanda
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Shit! Wir haben gerade WWII verloren.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:45 | 2910281 debtor of last ...
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Ha!! Best comment! (tungsten = wolfraam in Dutch / wolfram auf Deutsch)

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:58 | 2909691 Inthemix96
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When its gone,

Its gone...............


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