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Bank Of Canada Fires Shot Across Bow, Says "Withdrawal Of Stimulus Will Likely Be Required"
With the entire world engaged in global coordinated easing, slashing, burning, and overall lowering rates and printing money by the wheelbarrow, the Bank of Canada just fired a shot across the bow. Here is the kicker: "Reflecting all of these factors, the Bank has decided to maintain the target for the overnight rate at 1 per cent. Over time, some modest withdrawal of monetary policy stimulus will likely be required." Surely they must be punished for this blasphemy in the holy church of Saint John Maynard and the apostles of collapsing fiat.
The Loonie is happy:
Goldman is not. From GS' Andrew Tilton.
Keeping and strengthening the tightening bias, a hawkish surprise
The Bank of Canada today kept the target for the overnight rate unchanged, as was widely expected. Instead, the main focus today was on the language of the statement following Governor Carney’s speech last week at which he omitted mention of the BoC’s tightening bias. In the event, the tightening bias was strengthened, while the growth forecast was kept essentially unchanged. Overall, relative to the speech by Governor Carney last week, this represents a big surprise and suggests that concern over imbalances in the household sector may have grown.
In contrast to Governor Carney’s speech last week, where the tightening bias was omitted, the language of the tightening bias has been strengthened in two ways. First, language that conditioned tightening on the pace of the recovery has been dropped. Second, tightening is now called “likely,” where as before it was termed “may become appropriate.” The tightening bias language now reads: “Over time, some modest withdrawal of monetary policy stimulus will likely be required, consistent with achieving the 2 per cent inflation target.” The statement now explicitly also mentions the evolution of imbalances in the household sector, which suggests that concerns over household leverage have moved up the list of priorities for the Bank of Canada.
In this context, the Bank of Canada held its growth forecasts essentially unchanged. Growth for 2012 has been revised up to2.2% in 2012 (from 2.1%), was kept unchanged at 2.3% in 2013 and taken to 2.4% in 2014 (from 2.5%). Given Governor Carney’s emphasis on the deterioration in business sentiment and the investment outlook, this is also a hawkish surprise. The statement refers as it did previously to “very stimulative financial conditions” as sources of support for consumption and business investment. These seem to have trumped the concern over higher frequency indicators that were pointing to weakness. The output gap is now expected to close end-2013, slightly after the H2 2013 date given previously.
Overall, the statement stands in marked contrast to the Governor Carney speech last week and sounds more hawkish than we expected. However, we are sticking to our call of no rate hikes until Q4 2013
Full statement link here, and a side by side comparison with the last statement below.
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Translation; Banks and the politically-connected corporations are full of paper again, fuck eveyone else.
Blasphemers!!
Alert the Knights of Keyne...
Zamboni vs. Nascar!
Thank you Zer0 Hedge for highlighting the funny text in the bank's ScribD statement.
Oh good ~ now we can BLAME CANADA!...
the vampire squid doesn't have anyone in BOC or is their infighting?
Carney is an ex squidy.
wwhich means the squid has the xmas party photos locked up in their vault and will use them whne needed, damn those hookers
Just wait until the rate rises here in the U.S.
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Now costs $1,030,000,000,000, Bigger Than Social Security
Until they all stop printing money out of thin air it's all bullshit!
Translation, credit crunch in Tar Sands and double price coupon day for oil.
I want them to raise the rates and then we can finish this nonsense. It's credit that makes large, expensive gas happen...not political will. Wouldn't it be neat if it rose to 19% like the early 90's again?
rates can't raise without bankrupting the entire western world - Rock meet hard place. Boom motherfuckers. This is not the 70's 80's or 90's, so sorry round eye.
Yup. Can't stop printing; Can't raise interest rates.
The cp boys have stepped in it again.
Perhaps creating another fictional organization with an acronym name is in order.
LOL.
It's true. We've got a new breed of Political morons running the show here. They had a choice to survive this mess five years ago. They choose wrong and now all Canuck pensions, savings, RRSP, are finished to roll with the printing chain.
What should have happened is rates should have hit 12% after the first market shit storm in 2008. It would have been rough, but like the 90's we would be emerging from a bad place wealthier and wiser.
It would not be neat CPL, it would be very, very messy..
Well, Corporal. That would be the early 80's
Carney has been saying this for years now. All talk no action.
Thats exactly right, he's nothing but a bullshitter and a liar.
And he's a former Goldman Sachs guy too. Go Figure...
Hey, lighten up. Canada has decided to do away with the penny, they must be doing something right.
They've been making this statement for quite a while.
Have they just been talking or have they actually done anything material?
Just wondering how believeable this is.
It's all talk. ZIRP+1 continues despite speculation that rates would slowly rise.
Export driven economy where 70% of trade is in to US. Add to that that only 20% of the voters live where all the wealth is being generated. Result: the ex-squid Carney can't kick the zirp herion as easily as he bragged he could last year.
You nailed it. Seriously, your consumers are in debt up to their eyeballs and because of this you are going to raise interest rates? Why doesn't he just threaten to spank them all instead?
Spanking was adressed in his last statement. A few examples were even made. However people soon found out that Carney has a very weak arm.
Those loonies.
stateside
The 60 SMA FX Loonie chart looks....looney!
Basturds! How dare they pull away the punch bowl when the festivities are just getting started.
You kidding, it's the ProCon position to apologise to China and give them an opening to purchase what they like with cash.
Cash > credit
loonies- withdrawl- since when?
I'll add that once you blow your load, it aint worth pulling out.
they just fired a shot of bullshit across the bow of the zombie boat, another words we will keep doing the same thing until we do something different and we dont know what that will be until after the US elections.
Canada has always been a little different and that's a good thing.
Yes, we wouldn't want every country in the Western world looking identical ...you know, looking bankrupt, blown up in a 30 year bwanker debt-fueled property, consumer and Govt spending junkie quagmire
let's hear it for Canada doing it different ..eek!
Canada is shitting a solid tungston brick as their housing market is watching the floor give way.
You are about to see Sub-prime; Northern style!!
Canada and Australia have good times ahead. If they want to know what's coming they can look at Las Vegas, Nevada during the last decade.
And how expensive is talk?
Oh Can-a-da!
Withdrawal of stimulus sounds like someone has shot their wad and is ready to smoke a cig.
USD has forced the BOC to keep rates lower than they want for a while now. From a domestic perspective, rates should be higher than they are presently. At least some people at the BOC remember the early 90's.
I guess there not yet a Goldmanite in charge of the BOC?
Sorry, Mark Carney is a former Goldmanite.
Goldmanshite you mean
At least one major Canadian publication is interpreting the statement as dovish:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/interest-rates/bank-of-canada-softens-stand-on-rate-hike/article4630682/
Nice avatar!
These boots are made for walking ....
Thanks!
That bullshit sentence sounded to me like when I try to convince my kids to go to bed: "...John, you better go to bed now or else..."...say it ten times, they end up going to be after 10pm and the tragedy is that I repeat myself every single fucking night without results...
Words or phrases in statement that have imprecise meaning or open to interpretation:
"Over time", "some", "modest", "withdrawal", "of", "monetary policy", "stimulus", "will likely be", "required".
Awesome. Who would've ever thought Canada would've kick started the inevitable collapse?
If this whole system is a crack addict it's obviously time for therapy. Not gonna be pretty, the padded cells would be a cake walk compared to what's coming.
I'm only 43, i'd much rather get it over with than endure a 25 year long assfuck.
"I'm only 43, i'd much rather get it over with than endure a 25 year long assfuck."
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Classic. Of course, those on the "right" side of that assfuck might have a different idea. I guess the question is who owns the political class, you or them?
USDCAD this morning, was pretty funny:
http://blog.quantsig.net/2012/10/23/usdcad/
ahaha Carney may god have mercy on your soul
I was just about to type something witty and a little bit relevant and thought fuck it.
Fuck you bernank you fucking multiple nation wrecking dwarf cunt.
And fuck me, I now feel better.
you forgot squirrely, bald, arrogant 12 cock-meat sandwich eating assophant
@in the mix 96
@unrulian
Look at the quality of comment in this old ZH article : http://www.zerohedge.com/article/red-money-conspiracy-theory-11
None my use of english; comment, rather than remark.
You both generally lower the tone. Please, lets not let narcissistic adolescent inside have a mouth piece.
@puffer
right...as soon as i see a post not start with Bitchez i'll lower my tone....BTW your translator seems to be malfunctioning puffer
If oil drops more and starts to retest the 75 level then watchout below.Canadian household debt is astronomical.There is still over a million unreported unemployed,a slowdown in commodities and in Europe and in China.Canadians have been borrowing against their homes at record levels too.I think they'll even let homeowners in Canada still borrow up to 85 % of a homes value),incredible.You can buy insurance on your mortgage through CMHC and the stupid government thinks the insurance arm will provide the cushion if things go wrong. It almost reminds one of the U.S. history.If the Bank of Canada bumps interest rates up after Christmas and oil continues to drop with a slowing world economy,the Loonie could slide big.Basically right now it's the western Canadian economy (the oil)holding things up and providing tax revenue to Ottawa.Eastern Canada is already a writoff with Quebec and Ontario with record debt levels.The Province of Ontario with the most population has been downgraded.Its auto business is horrible.Don't forget that these guys are something like 800 plus billion in the hole on the overall deficit and everyone thinks that they are doing OK?The federal government is still got this national security act that prevents taxpayers from finding out what the total bill and spending is in Afganistan.Some speculate that the figures are easily into the tens of billions.They got sucked into this war against a plant that you can never win.Add the fact that the CIA is making a fortune there off of the dope (heroin)and laundering the money legally through New York banks,then you understand that the U.S. has led its allies by the hand like a bunch of morons.Prime Minister Harper and the rest of them are sending Canada into the pits and as far as I'm concerned,the whole gang in Ottawa is as right-wing as the former Bush Administration and just as stupid as well with tea-party like religious bigots controlling the Conservative Party.You can easily read more on that on GlobalResearch.ca
Really...i can't disagree, however what's our alternative? NDP? a bunch of socialist former teachers and lawers who don't know anything real and have provided no productivity in their lives and have sucked the country dry with their fat pensioned bank accounts and union pushing. The Liberals? who will now be lead by Trudeau's panty waste coke addict son that couldn't hold his dads bird, that will do and say anything to try a get a pulse in thei rotting corpse of a liberal party?The Cons atleast scrapped the gun registry and are pushing needed austerity measures.... All of which in the end as you point out will fail as we are unfortunately entagled in the death sprial of the 400 trillion gorilla that resides just to the south,
The Loonie Fundamentals according to the COT report ----
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B16Nxp5pgJBzXzdSTkFsaTdYaFk
Canada's economy is crashing and burning right now because of the popping housing bubble. Not a chance in the world they will raise rates. Next move is down. Carney is bluffing. Its pretty bloody obvious.
It seems odd that the BoC governor thinks that consumer debt has maxed out and needs to be dealt with while Canada's largest bank is buying up consumer debt companies. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-23/rbc-to-buy-ally-canadian-operat...
It should be obvious to most observers that the banks are doing this to kill off any competition so they can raise spreads on the consumer lending products with impunity.
Complete and utter bullshit!
Core CPI at about 2%??? Bullshit!
Marky Boy obviously does not do his own grocery shopping!
John William's SGS has real inflation at 9.6% YoY and Canada is more expensive to live then the US.
Inflation north of the border is more "likely" over 10% YoY. Real estate is starting to sink faster.
No QE? More bullshit! The federal government of Canada backs the national mortgage market through the CMHC, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, a government owned entity.
The Canadian consumer is staggering under massive personal debt and mortgage debt. Over 80% of the populace lives pay-check to pay-check. Talk about living on a knifes edge!
Tightening? Complete and utter bullshit. Not now. Not in the foreseeable future either!
Carney epitomizes "jawboning". wait a month, he'll change his tune, again. changes 6x a year.
shake n bake!!!