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Nigel Farage On The Total Subjugation Of Europe

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Forget black swans, Nigel Farage is rapidly turning himself into the black sheep of the EU Parliament with his constant stream of truthiness and honest pragmatism. It seems the broadly nodding-donkeys that fill the chamber remain cognitively dissonant to any and everything in the real world - hanging instead on the next soundbite from Van Rompuy or Barroso on how well things are going, or how the crisis is 'almost' over. If only the Germans would bless them all with their money. In one his plainest-speaking rants, Farage provides clarity to his 'peers' on just exactly what the bailouts of Greece, Portugal, Ireland, and soon to be Spain and Italy are actually about - the "total subjugation of the states to a completely undemocratic structure in Brussels." Is it any wonder Samaras and crew - while happy to accept cash and make promises - are pulling away from yet another (this time is the last time) Troika-driven austerity push? "The euro-zone is in a very dark place; economically, socially, and politically."

Some mind-blowing quotes in here as Farage refers to the leaders of Italy and Spain and their remarkable nonsense...

Listen to the entire 3:30 - it is frightening just what is occurring on the ground across the pond from a US nation with eyes only for the election for now...

 

 

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Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:38 | 2913447 Yamaha
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Love this guy!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:40 | 2913458 Mark Carney
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I was just going to say, anyone else look forward to this dudes rants ??

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:48 | 2913501 Nothing To See Here
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Yeah, I needed a dose of Nigel today, thanks Tyler

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:57 | 2913532 Skateboarder
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What a relief to see a human being speak the truth in those dark chambers of secrecy and manipulation. He knows he's in the minority - look at the faces of those other fucking bags of trash they call representatives. Thanks for the video Tyler.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:04 | 2913559 redpill
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No hot tubs please, Nigel.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:53 | 2914483 The Alarmist
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As Jello Biafra says, "I won't give up ... it's not an option!"

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:13 | 2914516 Pure Evil
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I was actually thinking that Rompuy, (Emperor Palpatine), would stand up, transform into Darth Sidious, and announce that the Death Star was now fully operational.

Que, stage left, the labored, heavy, mechanical breathing of Darth Vader.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:26 | 2914673 francis_sawyer
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Look at all those UP arrows...

I guarantee you that the day that NF says the word "jew"... the votes will go from 188-0... to 50%-50%...

~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rooPPLtK9pg

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:26 | 2914678 markmotive
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Marc Faber: Cut the US government by 50%

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2012/10/23/marc-faber-u-s-should-cut-gover...

Won't ever happen.

He also says we're basically fucked in 5-10 years.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 02:25 | 2915044 Handyman
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And right after Faber informs the western world that they have 5-10 years of life as they know it, the moron changes the topic to Fabers dogs.

Unbelievable.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:45 | 2914811 A Nanny Moose
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Darth Rumproast?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 23:03 | 2914833 Albertarocks
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LOL.  Have another beer.  Next one's on me.  :-)

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 07:50 | 2918047 tonyw
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what are you actually smoking?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:09 | 2914527 The Gooch
Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:28 | 2913639 dtwn
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I think Peter Schiff is pretty much the US equivalent of Nigel, with the benefit that his perspective comes from building his career in finance rather than politics (although he did run for senate in Connecticut).  Together they should embark on an inter-atlantic tour of speaking engagements and try to talk some sense into people.  Most sheep won't listen though.  Soon conditions on the ground will convince citezens that their polititians are lying.  Then a different style of politics that has Austrian economic theories forming the basis for policy may be accepted.  It took Nigel Farag's UKIP party 20 years to finally gain seats in Parliament.  Hopefully the change will happen much quicker here.  Oh and by politics with Austrian-based politics, I don't mean libertarian.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:30 | 2913647 mick68
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Why isn't Mr. Farrage being voted in? he is EXACTLY what every EU country needs right now. In fact, make him head of the entire EU and this world would be fixed in no time.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:52 | 2913736 azzhatter
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I think free elections are getting harder to come by in the EU

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:32 | 2913903 larz
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I hope he gets better treatment than Ron Paul

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:41 | 2914111 MillionDollarBogus_
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"The banking collapse was caused, more than anything, by bad government policy and the total failure of bad regulation, rather than by greed."     Nigel Farage

greed [gri?d]  noun
1. excessive consumption of or desire for food; gluttony
2. excessive desire, as for wealth or power

It was greed, Nigel, plain and simple.  The greedy banks sold the toxic debt.  Greedy rating agencies rated it AAA.  America is populated with a fat & greedy population.  They will never be satiated.  Big food portions.  Big cars.  Big houses.   Big debt.  Everything big.   Everything to excess. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:41 | 2914448 centerline
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Greed and regulation are tied together.  Regulation is one of the mechanisms government has to contain greed.  The legal system sets the playing rules.  The problem is when the government gets "owned."  When the legal system gets twisted.  When regulation can be effectively trumped.  When social complexity gets so deep that there is no way out.

Splitting hairs maybe.  But I tend to agree greed is more fundamental.  +1.

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:57 | 2914496 The Alarmist
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"Why isn't Mr. Farrage being voted in? "

Why aren't Gary Johnson or Roseanne Barr seen standing next to Mitt or Big-O at the MSM-televised debates?  

These "alternative products" are available in the market place if you are interested in looking, but it is so much easier to got with the choice that the Central Planners know  are best for you.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:04 | 2914512 nmewn
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Theres what we need, a Roseanne Barr & Al Franken ticket...what could possibly go wrong...lol.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:05 | 2914513 Messianic
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Ugh, Roseanne Barr in the same category as Gary Johnson? Junked.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:56 | 2914739 Lore
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Pretty sure he was kidding.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:01 | 2914504 nmewn
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"2. excessive desire, as for wealth or power"

Gosh, that describes the Community Reinvestment Act and the pandering politicians who passed & promoted it to a T. Isn't it about time we got business & government untangled?

I mean, its obvious the condoms keep breaking and we wind up with the "undesired consequences" from just having a good time ;-)

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:45 | 2914122 Ghordius
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Nope. Small parties like the UKIP can be elected in the European Parliament, thanks to it's proportional electoral system.
The UK has a first-around-the-post system that prevents that.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 18:44 | 2914295 Zero Govt
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you mean 'First Past the Post' electoral voting system

matters not, any and every voting system is flawed, we can only make decisions for ourselves, not others. Democracy is a lie from start to finish, and that's just how it's turned out with nothing beneficial whatsoever in 3,000 years

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:16 | 2915047 Ghordius
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well, let me put it this way: it's your opinion. and this kind of opinions flourish under the protection (because gov is always a protection racket like the mafia) of states where people have this luxury

........

of course your opinion is quite diametrically opposed to those who fight for democracy in their own totalitarian regimes

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 23:05 | 2914834 Albertarocks
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He already is.  He was allowed to speak.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:32 | 2914696 Harbanger
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"Why isn't Mr. Farrage being voted in?"

Right now the Socialists outnumber the libertarians, maybe they'll come around as they see France's new regime implode.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:00 | 2914365 averros
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If one goes Austrian and strives for intellectual integrity, he's got no choice but to become an anarcho-capitalist.  It's a natural evolution in the libertarian circles, in fact, as one progresses from learning economic theory (Austrian) to learning logically compatible legal theory and ethics (Rothbardian) as the understanding dawns that the non-aggression principle is a necessary condition for a free market, and that it is impossible to have one without the other.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:27 | 2914559 dermus
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That's not true. Rothbard hung around Objectivist circles, was basically shunned by them, and he took up and left, but not without taking the Objectivist non-agression principle, and establishing it as the axiom around which he founded his own movement.

It's important to note the difference between an axiom and a principle, as the Objectivists came up with the principle as the logical conclusion of an entire cascade of logical progressions, based on much lower-level axioms (i.e. the law of identity, or that man's highest value is his life).

By turning it into an axiom, Rothbard set aside all the logic behind it, made it a given that must be essentially believed in, and proceeded to logically develop his theory based on a false premise. As such, he degenerated into so-called "anarcho-capitalism".

I'll quote from Ayn Rand to give the appropriate response to anyone claiming capitalism should end in anarchy:

"Anarchy, as a political concept, is a naive floating abstraction: . . . a society without an organized government would be at the mercy of the first criminal who came along and who would precipitate it into the chaos of gang warfare. But the possibility of human immorality is not the only objection to anarchy: even a society whose every member were fully rational and faultlessly moral, could not function in a state of anarchy; it is the need of objective laws and of an arbiter for honest disagreements among men that necessitates the establishment of a government."

 

"If a society provided no organized protection against force, it would compel every citizen to go about armed, to turn his home into a fortress, to shoot any strangers approaching his door—or to join a protective gang of citizens who would fight other gangs, formed for the same purpose, and thus bring about the degeneration of that society into the chaos of gang-rule, i.e., rule by brute force, into perpetual tribal warfare of prehistorical savages."

"The use of physical force—even its retaliatory use—cannot be left at the discretion of individual citizens. Peaceful coexistence is impossible if a man has to live under the constant threat of force to be unleashed against him by any of his neighbors at any moment. Whether his neighbors’ intentions are good or bad, whether their judgment is rational or irrational, whether they are motivated by a sense of justice or by ignorance or by prejudice or by malice—the use of force against one man cannot be left to the arbitrary decision of another."

 

"A recent variant of anarchistic theory, which is befuddling some of the younger advocates of freedom, is a weird absurdity called “competing governments.” Accepting the basic premise of the modern statists—who see no difference between the functions of government and the functions of industry, between force and production, and who advocate government ownership of business—the proponents of “competing governments” take the other side of the same coin and declare that since competition is so beneficial to business, it should also be applied to government. Instead of a single, monopolistic government, they declare, there should be a number of different governments in the same geographical area, competing for the allegiance of individual citizens, with every citizen free to “shop” and to patronize whatever government he chooses.

 

Remember that forcible restraint of men is the only service a government has to offer. Ask yourself what a competition in forcible restraint would have to mean."

"One cannot call this theory a contradiction in terms, since it is obviously devoid of any understanding of the terms “competition” and “government.” Nor can one call it a floating abstraction, since it is devoid of any contact with or reference to reality and cannot be concretized at all, not even roughly or approximately. One illustration will be sufficient: suppose Mr. Smith, a customer of Government A, suspects that his next-door neighbor, Mr. Jones, a customer of Government B, has robbed him; a squad of Police A proceeds to Mr. Jones’ house and is met at the door by a squad of Police B, who declare that they do not accept the validity of Mr. Smith’s complaint and do not recognize the authority of Government A. What happens then? You take it from there."

 

More here: http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:08 | 2914641 MillionDollarBogus_
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Captialism never ends.  It churns along until it derails, chaos unsues, then it starts up again. 

The more efficient it works, the faster the wealth flows to a small group at the top.

When it breaks down there is a 'reset', much like a Monopoly game that ends when one person has all the loot and the other players are broke.  Debt is forgiven, money is reallocated and the game starts over.

The yield on a 1 year Greek bond is a good sign of the impending reset.  The yield froze at 1,143% some months ago.  The 2 year bond yield is also frozen.

Solon in ancient Greece oversaw an orderly reset and it worked.  When the Romans reached that point they did nothing to apply a fix and paid the price with 100 years of chaos. 

Read your history, folks, it keps repeating itself in cycles...

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:02 | 2914745 howenlink
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See Roy Child's Open Letter to Ayn Rand which attempts to refute her claims on an intellectual basis.

http://www.isil.org/ayn-rand/childs-open-letter.html

 

 

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 00:04 | 2914927 dermus
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He takes an unsurprising tact. He starts from the premise that the government provides services, that he might want to choose another government to provide those services to him, and that if the first government stops him, it is aggressing him.

This is the result of taking non-aggression as an axiom and not a principle derived to within the context of a hierarchy of values.

Objectivists hold that government is indeed a monopoly, and understand that all real monopolies are by definition coercive. The things it holds monopoly on are not services, but actually the pre-requisites of civilization. The police, justice, and military. These are not services. They are collective by definition. They constitute the essentials of sovereignty.

There is no dichotomy between coercive monopolies and non-coersive monopolies. Monopolies are coercive. A non-coersive monopoly is simply not a monopoly. That would be a contradiction in terms. Going up our hierarchy of values, man's life is his highest value. In order to live a rational life, in a society, there needs to be a government that monopolizes three functions: police, justice, and military. These are not services. And if government attempts to monopolize anything beyond those three functions, or create other monopolies, it is gone beyond it's rationally permitted function.

"Anarcho-capitalists" are essentially committing, amongst others, the rationalistic fallacy: "Coercive monopolies are bad. The government is a coercive monopoly. The government is bad." In fact, the government, by definition, has to be a monopoly, and a particular government is only bad if it uses it's powers to create economic monopolies.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:12 | 2914391 davidgdg
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" Oh and by politics with Austrian-based politics, I don't mean libertarian."

So what do you mean then?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:26 | 2914560 dracos_ghost
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Anyone know who the hecklers in the background were...

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:10 | 2913816 asteroids
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Nice Suit.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:19 | 2913857 NeedtoSecede
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Anyone care to speculate who/what would give you red arrows MC?

You miserable Trolls (from Brussels maybe?) care to step up and show yourselves here, or are you just going to sling your red arrows and hide from the truth?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:44 | 2913478 HobbyFarmer
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Wish we had a few leaders like him here in the U.S. calling other politicians out.  Wonder what sheeple think of him?  How does he garner any support spouting truth once in awhile?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:52 | 2913516 Nothing To See Here
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You had one on stage during the GOP debates and he was a candidate for the US presidency. You booed him off the stage when he quoted the golden rule - don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you. Crazy idea eh?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:58 | 2913535 Ignatius J Reilly
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still penning him in on my ballot.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:04 | 2913556 LawsofPhysics
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Likewise.  Nigel stinks of fear.  At the end of the day, Dr. Paul can still provide a real service with his labor, all Nigel does is talk for his masters.  execute all the paper-pushers and their puppets already.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:07 | 2913568 HobbyFarmer
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Yeah, me three.  In my mind, a vote for Ron Paul is better than not voting (read that article earlier today).  Third party / write-ins, make them count something other than the "choices" they give us.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:50 | 2914137 Ghordius
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+1 and Nigel's masters are the City of London bankers

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 04:50 | 2915156 _underscore
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If they are, which I doubt, they must be seriously pi$$ed-off with him for attempting to expose & dismantle the cosy banking cartel's carve-up of europe via the Troika system. Aren't most of the place men 'elected' as the new technocratic leaders of the EU failed states ex-bankers, or their lieutentants? If what NF suggests were to happen (i.e. national govts. taking decision-making & responsibility back for their citizens) it would expose the banking 'troika' for what it is & break, eventually,  the endless cycle of debt rehypothecation that we're seeing - much like the situation that prevailed in Iceland Do you think the City of London bankers liked the Iceland solution?

 

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:23 | 2915205 Ghordius
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other, different opinions on Nigel Farage from the "Don't thread on me" "Silver Bug" blog

"...Conclusion: Farage serves the City of London and is currently encouraging many millions in Britain to ‘protect the city of London’.  This is a FACT.

At best, I would describe Farage as an eccentric money-obsessed political pygmy, and at worst I would suggest he’s a clever shill move by the dark Lord Rothschild.  For those that do not understand British politics, UKIP, Farage’s party, is on the scene to mop-up disgruntled Conservatives into another hierarchical collective."

from http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=17231

AND

"...Conclusion: It’s clear that Nigel Farage and his political party UKIP are in full support of the corporate power known as the City of London.  He readily admits that he wants to defend ‘the City’ and four generations of his family have worked or currently work in Rothschild’s fiefdom.

So, who is Nigel Farage?  Why does he defend the usury epicentre whilst attacking the European Union?  Why is he willing to discuss the potential gains in gold?  Why does he support campaigning against the European Central Bank, and not the ‘City of London’?"

from http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=10691

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:25 | 2915206 Ghordius
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meanwhile the UKIP website proudly presents Nigel as "Fellow of the City of London" http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/2602-nigel-granted-freedom-of-ci...

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:42 | 2914713 spankfish
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I writing in the Riot Dog.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:06 | 2913563 daxtonbrown
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Imagine if Nigel could run for President here what he'd have to say about Obama and the Fed.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:53 | 2913748 azzhatter
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Picture Ron Paul calling Geithner a douchebag on the floor of the house. Or maybe just an elf

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:50 | 2914728 FEDbuster
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Hard to picture, because Ron Paul wouldn't and didn't do that.   That is my only beef with Ron Paul, he didn't call a spade a spade.  He was too damn nice for the job of Congressman.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:18 | 2913858 Darth Rayne
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We have a two party system in the UK with Labour and Conservative.

We do have liberal democrats but they were until recently a waste of a vote.

Now we have UKIP too. That makes FOUR.

Our media doesn't give him main stream coverage. Without ZH or Capital Report I wouldn't know who he was.

 

Our choice of leader is cameron or some muppet look a like. At our last election even we couldn't decide between the two main parties so we got a coalition, marvelous.

 

So, he isn't in power in the UK as he just isn't recognised as a potential leader. That's the power of mainstream media.

 

Now, why don't Americans elect Schiffer or Ron Paul?

 

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:29 | 2914081 Manipuflation
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Because the Diebold machines are programmed to corzine any vote that is not R or D.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:07 | 2914522 Messianic
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+1 for efficient use of "corzine" as a verb

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:31 | 2914694 Manipuflation
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+1 for noticing finer linguistic details.  Transitive verbs can be useful.  Like "fucked" for example.  I had to +1 another poster just for the effective use of the word "fucking", twice in one phrase, while still being relatively tasteful in manner.

I hope that all ZHer's find the following usage guide helpful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86zlSplwK2A

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:25 | 2913878 jmcadg
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Sadly in the UK he's even more fringe and equally as badly respected as Ron Paul.
Much to the frustration of any right thinking Brit.
No here we are left with as fundamentally useless choices as you have stateside.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:35 | 2913912 larz
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We actually do in Ron Paul who we gave the bum's rush out of the race

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:03 | 2913555 JPM Hater001
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"Love this guy!"

Me too.  He will be dead in 6 months.

Early casualty of war.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 00:07 | 2914454 BigDuke6
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No.

He's completely ignored by the UK MSM.

and the marxist BBC.

ZH readers know him more than 95% of the UK public.

We are against a well organised enemy and they do not give the oxygen of publicity to a threat.  Rather another 'evil Syrian regime' story...

EDIT

actually i forgot they tried to kill him 2 years ago in a plane crash!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmG0qCVIDNc

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:05 | 2913557 LongSoupLine
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i love Nigel.  He's like Ron Paul...

 

on speed...

with a Brit accent.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:21 | 2914049 Wile-E-Coyote
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Ron Paul is a defeatist pussy.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:31 | 2914690 FEDbuster
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I'll bite on that one.   I was a Ron Paul supporter.  He talked the talk and walked the walk, but in the final analysis he was an ineffectual politician.  He never passed a meaningful bill in twenty years.  He never got his FED audit done.  He wasn't even on par with Nigel Farage, because Ron Paul was a nice guy.  He didn't want to offend or hurt any one person's feelings.  Even FED chairmen got respect that they didn't deserve from Ron Paul.

We need some "crazy ass liberty loving motherfuckers" to get in the faces of the worthless POS politicians that we have now.  I want guys that yell "LIAR" at the POTUS when he tells a boldface lie.  I want guys like Allen Grayson (not a big fan of his ideas) that says "You now own the Red Roof Inns".  I am not advocating fist fights in Congress, but at least give us the Octagon of Ideas.  Call a Marxist, a Marxist.  A Socialist, a Socialist.  A Warmonger, a Warmonger.   Time to show some spine like Mr. Farage on this side of the pond. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:02 | 2914744 Lore
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Farage is merely another Ron Paul. See, people don't stop and re-think that statement.

Another Ron Paul is ALL HE IS.  Better analogue:  Jon Stewart.

Barking jesters mean nothing except to serve as a satirical vent for public anger. They're distractions, not fixers of problems.

If Farage or Paul or anybody else with conscience and leadership potential had any chance...

You know the rest.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:20 | 2914770 GottaBKiddn
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Ron Paul is anything but perfect, but to call him a defeatist pussy is akin to calling Madonna, "Like a Virgin". Ron Paul has balls of steel compared to any keyboard krybabies on ZH. We should be so lucky. But if you want some "crazy ass", what about Jesse Ventura? He puts it on the line, but how far is he getting? The only guy who gets even a little respect is Trump, and how does that help us? In the end, "America drinks and goes home".

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:43 | 2914807 FEDbuster
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I like Jesse Ventura, and would support his run for POTUS.  Add Judge Andrew Napalitano as his running mate.

Ron Paul just never got to the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" in his career.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:19 | 2914045 Wile-E-Coyote
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As a Brit I'm fucking proud of Nigel. Again Britain stands alone against the barbarian horde.

The USA has gone off on a totalatarian tangent, god help us all.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:30 | 2914088 bagehot99
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As a Brit-now-US-Citizen I like Farrage too.

He loves to stick things in the eys of those self-important idiots in the EU, who require translators just to fucking talk to each other. And this is supposed to be a 'United States'. Give me a fucking break, it's a failed political experiment brought to you by the same leftist clowns who have a 100% track record of abject failure everywhere they have tried their utopian fantasies (BHO is the latest abject failure atte,pting this puerile silliness).

 

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 18:00 | 2914164 Ghordius
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As a non-Brit european I can tell you that the other 26 are ready to greet you farewell when you leave the club. WE and our govs never forced you, you know? Your Gov asked you in 1975 and never after. As soon as your Gov and YOUR Parliament - which has an electoral law that gives small parties like Dear Nigel's UKIP NO seats and voice - have the courage to either call for a referendum OR tell you why your country is still in the EU.
Note: the banks have something to do with it, both your current status and your impending changes.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:32 | 2914428 WhiteChrist
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Me thinketh the EU would be proud to have Norway. Here, we have none of these childish hurdles like free speech, thought, a folkdom, hard mint or other such witlessness. We reckon aught for what we're told it is - naught more, naught less. We're all the same. The nail that sticketh out shall be hammered adown. Our fellowship's of the fullest kind, and too good for the EU. Still, our Lord hath looked kindly on the EU and given it both Nobel's meed and the ESM, as 'tis on the right path, though not far away come. We can only hope the Lord will see to it that these foolhardy Engles, Saxen and Eets, as well's their evenly foolhardy aftercomers in the new world, stop thinking outside the box that so lovingly hath been built for us, not by hard work, freedom or other such childishness, but by every unthinking hand that doth what the true fellows of our Lord teach.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:57 | 2914624 BigDuke6
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Thank you Anders Breivik.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:24 | 2914672 nmewn
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ROTFL!!!

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 05:38 | 2915180 _underscore
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As a British european, perhaps you should understand that the UK govt. joined the Common market (big difference to the EU) - then rather foolishly signed the Single European Act (Margaret Thather's fault, sadly) which turned a benign tumour into galloping malignacy that has metastasized into every aspect of our lives. I feel sorry for the average EU citizen, many don't know what's coming - the people in Greece have got a whiff of it though, so too the Spaniards. I'm all for freer & easier intra-EU trade, but the EU was given an inch & is taking a mile.

The EU, (and by that I mean the Brussles oligarchy & compliant MSM lackeys) for all its bravado, are absolutely terrified of a UK withdrawal - they know, deep, deep, down, that it's a gnats cock away from implosion & take-over  by, either, the Brussels/Paris/Bonn axis, or a single-state hegemony. If you leave the EU(rope)  to its own devices, it never ends well (just review the past 150 of european history..) - about the only moderating influence of the EU right now is the UK - and thank your lucky stars for Nigel Farage - who says the 'unsayable' in the heart of the rotting edifice. I notice even a few applause after his speeches - as well as the idiot mumblers of course.

As far as UKIP not getting a seat in the UK, and this somehow being a slur on our system, might I remind you that you probably wouldn't have your grand structures now if it weren't for our 'imperfect' democracy getting Europe out of the shit 70 & 100 years ago. The mirage of democracy in the EU is being revealed day by day - the standard model is: yes you can vote, but keep voting until you give the 'right' answer.  It's a very bad joke indded.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:47 | 2915215 Ghordius
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_underscore, I thought I wrote "as a non-Brit european".

 

1. the EU is not the "Brussles oligarchy & compliant MSM lackeys". The EU is 27 sovereign countries that cooperate by treaties.

2. Neither the Brussel "Service Center" nor the other 26 are terrified about the UK leaving. In fact, there are several articles lately in the FT on exactly this: it's about time for the UK to decide if they want to play ball or leave the field.

3. this "hegemony" thing is typical of the political discourse in the UK (and the US). The others talk about cooperation.

4. Yes, there are Super-State proponents - but they are a minority. The majorities of the Continental Europeans want a Confederation. And this is another reasons why we are skeptical of things like a permanent President of the EU and also the reason why we did not want Tony Blair as the first one. And choose "Gollum" van Rompuy instead.

So your "imperfect" democracy saved our asses in WWII? How about the fact that you intervened in WWI, when the "thing" was a war between two democracies and two autocracies? And where you joined forces with Imperial Russia? Come on, this history debate can go forever, don't even start it. Hint: your empire had a "thing" going on with Belgium, at that time, and it was very, very keen on hampering Germany...

 

The question I pose is: why does the typical (60%) Briton moan so much about "the EU things" when it's HIS Government and HIS Parliament that could do something about it? When is your elected leader Cameron going to set up a referendum? Blaming the other 26 for everything is getting stale. Do you know how many laws and EU treaties have been either hampered by the Gov of the UK, or in how many major initiatives the UK bargained an opt-out?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:40 | 2914445 oldfruit1
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tyler, as a brit, got to say that farage is ranting and raving in Brussels but nobody in the UK pays any notice whatsoever to what happens in the European parliament, no news agencies ever show these rants however relevant so i fear he will keep doing this kind of bombastic speech from time to time but will make 0 headway.

ukip is nowhere in uk politics unfortunately with 0 representation in UK Parliament ... no MPs at all! They have a bunch of MEPs in Europe but god knows what they are doing there as they dont believe in European parliament so its slightly pointless to be there at all! The tory party is now pushing into ukip territory which will further squeeze them, David Cameron is now pushing for a renegotiation of agreements with Europe so its put Farage in a tight spot.

 

fruity  

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:32 | 2915210 reload
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I think you slightly understimate the leverage Farage has. Sure the first past the post system of electing MP`s to Westminster works against UKIP. But look how well they are doing in local council elections....well enough to cost Cammeron a lot of seats at westminster by splitting the Tory vote. Farage can push Cammeron hard to commit to a straight in/out refferendum in exchange for not contesting seats where a UKIP candidate would probably alow a Labour or Lib Dem candidate to sneak to victory. So yes, UKIP have no seats is Westminster but despite that they have more influence than is obvious.  

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:24 | 2914550 RafterManFMJ
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We need a video of him and one of his rants superimposed on a beach, with the statue of liberty half buried in the background. Put him on a horse, and have him clothed in poorly cured bearskins.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:40 | 2913456 spastic_colon
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"nodding-donkeys" that's awesome rofl

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:44 | 2913480 Unprepared
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Donkeys don't nod, they just get carried by the tunes they hear in their heads from time to time.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:42 | 2913461 malikai
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The ultimate IRL troll of the EU strikes again with the sword of truth (maybe damocles someday?).

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:41 | 2913464 resurger
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I like this man

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:43 | 2913470 forwardho
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More like a modern day Cassandra. hoo-ahh

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:44 | 2913471 falak pema
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he doesn't talk about the "remakable nonsense" at the origin of this crisis : the oligarchical hubris fed by MAggie-Ronnie Reaganomics. A pot calling a kettle black. Now both pot and kettle are full of toxic stuff.

And we of first world be the biggest losers. Hot air balloon selling nationalistic populism that takes us back to Rule Britannia of 19th century. 

The world moves forward blood bathed and all. This century will be like the 14th, a sterile repeat.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:05 | 2913562 earleflorida
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;-)>

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:43 | 2913472 Dr. Engali
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Nigel is the man that's for sure. Too bad he wasn't debating last night. He would rip either one of the two empty suits apart.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:05 | 2913558 JPM Hater001
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"And you Mr Obama.  No one had ever heard of you, but I suspect you are dangerous."

What Farage would have said in the 2008 debates.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:44 | 2913473 giggler123
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Nigel - have you paid your fines from the last outburst?  They take yellow stuff you know?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 21:37 | 2914706 nmewn
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When speaking the truth is a crime, justice will come from outside of that law.

Pretty sure I read that somewhere...if not, I got dibs on it ;-)

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:44 | 2913476 dick cheneys ghost
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Nigel is great, but who/what is worse....The City of London (which are mainly American banks) or the European Union..........Come on Nigel, clean up the City of London first, then take on the EU

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:00 | 2913548 Bobportlandor
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He said uk is close to leaving. One step at a time.

Time to order your Hillerich & Bradsby stick

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:13 | 2913589 Jugdish
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....The City of London (which are mainly American banks) ??

HSBC, RBS, Lloyds. London owns.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:27 | 2913635 dick cheneys ghost
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''UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said: "The City of London faces retribution as a result of Cameron's veto and every step must be taken to protect it from these attacks."

There are 110 banks in the City owned by France and Germany which could be caught up by the tax. Most of the 1,117 foreign banks and financial services (hedge funds) firms in the capital are US-owned.''

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/id-use-veto-again-says-pm-637745...

 

So if Nigel is a schill for The City of London does that make him a schill for Wall St too?

The fucking City of London is a fucking cesspool..........The City of London and these banks are just as much a threat to democracy as the EU is and Max Keiser seems to be the only one talking about it......

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:41 | 2913683 gjp
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Plus one for you.  Nigel's gleeful Euro bashing is totally offset by his apparent love for anglosaxon finance which really is at the root of most present-day evil.

Europe hates everything that America stands for, eh Nigel?  Well, if there's one thing that America stands for today it's bank bailouts.  Hell, they invented them.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:49 | 2913729 dick cheneys ghost
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Thank you. There is something called the Truth, the Whole Truth and Nothing but the truth. Nigel speaks the truth about the EU, but does not speak the Whole Truth about threats to democracy.........there is much more to the story

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:08 | 2913812 Goatboy
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Yes, superficially outspoken and cunningly selective.. as every good shill.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 18:16 | 2914201 Ghordius
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"Nigel speaks the truth about the EU" ?
part of it, and in a very selective and distorting way

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:46 | 2913710 mvsjcl
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Hi Mr. Ghost:

Have you figured out some way of establishing "ownership" of multi-national corporations and mega-banks that has escaped me? If so, I'd like to know. Everything I've researched makes it quite clear that the whole corporate structure is well suited at hiding the real owners.

But I'm sure that someone does really own these "persons."

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913484 Vincent Vega
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I guess a Ron Paul/Nigel Farage ticket is not possible for Nov 6th....damn!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:48 | 2913504 RiotActing
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Just quit it with the Ron Paul shit... they told him to take a hike and he listened. Rand Paul endorses Romney.... how obvious does it have to get for you Ron Paul bots?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:51 | 2913515 Vincent Vega
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Whoa big fella...just trying to bring a little levity to the situation. Just for the record, I will not be casting a ballot on Nov 6th.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:52 | 2913519 Dr. Engali
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Rand is his own man....I'm still writing in Ron Paul.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:08 | 2913569 LawsofPhysics
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Your moniker is appropriate as Ron Paul is a very different person.  Too bad you are just another stupid sheep.

He said this very pubically last week moron;

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49374723/Ron_Paul_Won_t_Endorse_Romney_Cites_More...

 

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:22 | 2914053 Lednbrass
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Romney is every bit as much a big government jackass as BO is..how obvious does it have to get for you clueless Republican idiots that you are supporting a guy whose actual policies would make him as much at home in the supposed other party as it does in yours?

Seriously, you people were so happy that Team Blue has an anti 2nd Amendment, anti abortion, pro gay boy scout leader, effete Ivy League twit and government run healthcare advocate who put his entire executive term on the credit card that you decided to nominate one of your own. If you like Romney you should love Obama.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:22 | 2914058 Wile-E-Coyote
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Well said they told Ron we got pictures of your boy with a lady boy back off and he did.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:30 | 2914424 Oldballplayer
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Why?  We don't have an issue with electing foriegners any more.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913485 moonstears
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Thanks for remembering our WWII USA troops contributions, Nigel!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:53 | 2913521 yogibear
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If it wan't for all those US troops that lost their lives the French would be speaking German. The US never seems to get any thanks for what we did in WWII from France. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:00 | 2913543 a growing concern
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My mom has been to Normandy and said the people there haven't forgotten.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:56 | 2913762 Motorhead
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@ a growing concern

I can vouch for that...they have not forgotten.

And regarding World War One, with all of the military cemetaries of fallen British, Canadian, and other allied nations' soldiers in France (and Belgium), they haven't forgotten that, either. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:19 | 2914546 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ a growing & Motorhead  + 1

I too have been to Normandy, and you both are right, they have not forgotten.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:00 | 2913547 moonstears
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Ironically, If it wasn't for France, our little war for independence with Nigel's nation, in the late 1700s, might not have gone as well, either. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:42 | 2913942 Bennie Noakes
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Ironically, If it wasn't for France, our little war for independence with Nigel's nation, in the late 1700s, might not have gone as well, either.

Louis XVI and many other members of the French government that backed the US were beheaded a few years later by an enraged French populace.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 04:45 | 2915150 Ar-Pharazôn
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the french arrived when american had already won the war. period.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:12 | 2913587 SWIFT 760
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Technically, Statue of Liberty. However I agree with your comment. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:02 | 2913789 Motorhead
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Dude, Statue of Liberty was not for WWII.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:16 | 2913602 giggler123
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Hallo, so was ist los mit uns Deutsch sprechen?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:50 | 2914607 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ich verstehe nicht.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:34 | 2913868 BigJim
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 If it wan't for all those US troops that lost their lives the French would be speaking German. The US never seems to get any thanks for what we did in WWII from France. 

France and Germany have always been killing each other. The US didn't get involved in the Franco-Prussian war, and it shouldn't have got involved in WWI, either. In fact, if it weren't for US involvement in WWI enabling the allies to crush Germany and enforce an utterly ruinous peace, WWII would almost certainly never have happened. If the doughboys had told Woodrow Wilson to go fuck himself the world would probably have been a much better place.

The Fed and WWI - thanks Woodrow, you Class-A douchebag.

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 22:33 | 2914787 Milestones
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Don't forget in your thank  yous to include Wilsons signing into law--The Federal Reserve Act.          Milestones

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:32 | 2913909 Joe A
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And if it weren't for Wallstreet investing much into nazi Germany before the war and Rockefeller investing in nazi Germany master race/euthanasia programmes, perhaps there wouldn't have been a WWII in the first place. The eugenics society in the US was a big fan of Hitler.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:55 | 2913981 Rubicon
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Yes indeed, but in an ironic twist of fate Wall St underestimated Mr Hitler - have you been to Auschwitz? 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:14 | 2914020 Don Diego
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well, thanks to those US troops the French will be speaking Arabic in 30 years....

By the way, the Germans did not impose the German language onto the French populace apart from the germanic-speaking regions of Alsace and Moselle. The long-term German plan was to let them go within a german-led Europe.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 19:44 | 2914455 littleguy
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The long term Nazi plan was to irradicate non-arians from the face of the Earth. First totally subjucating the people, then exterminating them was the end goal. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:26 | 2913627 littleguy
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Britain will NEVER forget the sacrifice made by the US for our freedom. Coincidentally, it's Nov 11th Armistice day coming soon, I always make a point of remembering the allies - US, UK, CAN, AUS, NZ. especially.

Who else will stand up to the shit-spouting socialist European mental cases if not this group??

Europe can go take a hike to the irrelevant historical pages of an encyclopaedia, section entitled - 'fanatical misadventures in history by monumental socialist cunts'.

end of rant.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:35 | 2913657 Gimp
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Don't forget all the  commonwealth countries who contributed troops to the effort from India, Africa, Asia and the Carribbean. Thank you all.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:42 | 2913685 XitSam
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I was travelling and in York or Lincoln, without anything to do for the evening, I went to see A Fish Called Wanda. At one point Kevin Kline's character says something like "If it wasn't for us Americans, the British would would be goose stepping and going Heil Hitler."  As an American I thought this was pretty funny and was about to laugh ... and there was dead silence in the theater. Apparantly a touchy subject.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:34 | 2913856 BigJim
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Kline's acting and part were fucking great in that movie.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:57 | 2913994 Rubicon
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The battle for Britain was won in the air. The US did not take part. You saved continental Europe, not UK.

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 18:30 | 2914249 koncaswatch
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Endless convoys of Merchant Marines aboard supply laden Liberty Ships transversing wolf-pack infested waters saved UK.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 18:33 | 2914262 XitSam
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So things like Lend-Lease, food supplies and Liberty Ships had nothing to do with Britain surviving?  Britain would have been just fine without US help?

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:07 | 2915192 _underscore
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The bravery, commitment & sacrifice of the American armed forces in WW1/2  is not in doubt (as well as that of  the Commonwealth & ex-patriate europe and, Polish,free French et al) and was/is greatly respected, but don't forget that the US govt. made this, primarily,  as a commercial decision, one for which the UK paid hansomely & long. Popular support the the US was garnered by emphasising the moral argument to the American people - and good on them. In fact, the lend-lease repayments to the US finally ended in 2006, under the 50-year agreement. The GDP spur of lend-lease was the primary factor in getting the US (finally) out of the 1930s depression. Lest we forget.

 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:01 | 2914001 Colonial Intent
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Yeah if it were'nt for the allies who fought and defeated nearly a massive 20% of the german forces in WW2 the russians might have won without us.....

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 17:17 | 2914041 Don Diego
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the Rhodesians and South Africans that helped Britain must be regretting it now...if they have survived to the machete-wielding humanoids that rule those lands. Must be great to have your war pension paid in Zimbabwe dollars, serves you right suckers.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 20:09 | 2914528 WhiteChrist
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Freedom is a childish thought. 'Tis the Lord's way that telleth. The EU hath made great strides of late towards true fellowship, in which the Lord saith and man doth. Selfhood is nigh death in the EU, as fareth of the best. The fires of hell await those that yet cling to such foolishness as that a man shall be free, a rike small and work hard. Lift not a finger, for the Lord looketh after those that think not for themselves, but do His will. In the ESM, we see that the EU hath been given a rich blessing. The Lord will have naught to do with such as offerings make for freedom, as full fellowship alone is his way. There is no room for selfhood, and none can stand up to the Lord.

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 07:31 | 2915258 bunnyswanson
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English must be your second language.  You are a rare example of how the narcissistic sociopaths view the lives of others from their view at the top of their pyramid made via a shell game.

 

Freedom is necessary in order for the geniuses among us to discover their gifts.  it takes time and study.  Closing the door to ingenuity is detrimental to just about everyone and the planet we live on for many reasons, medicine, art, cooking, gardening, discoveries of new and better methods would be cut of at it's knees.

 

The men in charge are fools.  They have gotten to great heights through means of deception and corruption.  A blueprint was created and a sketch that could come right out of SNL has unfolded because of their determination and lack of strength in character in the politicians we have before us.  This world they envision is a fantasy.  The world they will get as a result of their shenanigans will be hell for everyone.  You are not free when it is necessary to look over your shoulder when you are walking down the street.  Repercussions of these delusional rich boys will be decades of conflict for reasons no one can remember.  They'll realize why brotherly love has kept mankind from self destructing but rather create communities and allow the majority to rule.

 

The media outlets and their portrayal of the world we live in has led us all to believe it's not as bad as it sounds.  That will change soon enough. 

 

Religion is a gimmick.  "When I do something wrong, I feel bad.  When I do something good, I feel better.  That is my religion."  Abe Lincoln

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:46 | 2913487 RiotActing
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Wish he'd come over here and shake the shit out of some people....

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913488 toomanyfakecons...
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This guy would do great with his own food show because he is cooking with gas!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913489 Spitzer
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Is there an equal dollar zone mouth piece ?

Not really....

Sign of USD bubble

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913493 debtor of last ...
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What i would like to do is smash the faces of the fascist fucks sitting around Farage with their spectacles on the point of their noses, smiling a dark hidden truth and whispering things to make Farage look stupid. Every time it's the same fucking fascist smile on scared faces.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913495 Gimp
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Nigel is speaking to an audience of fat, lazy bureacrats who are all hoping to save their cushy jobs and pensions.

Most of then don't give a shit about the ordinary Eurpoean citizen.  Europe will never be the United States, give it up already.

Independence for Britain now!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:49 | 2913508 Beastmanager
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Independence for Spain now!

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:26 | 2913883 rustymason
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Generalissimo Francisco Franco will return.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:45 | 2913702 XitSam
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It gets me how many of them are not in attendance.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 16:05 | 2913799 mvsjcl
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Don't think Congress is immune from absentitus.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:48 | 2913496 Diesel Seven
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Uh-oh. He's not a very good group-thinker, is he?

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913497 “Rebellion to t...
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Outstanding speech. Plain spoken, on target, and predictive of where we are also heading.

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 14:47 | 2913500 yogibear
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The Winston Churchill of Sovereignty in Europe.

We need more of his attitude among others in Europe. 

Tue, 10/23/2012 - 15:07 | 2913567 Jugdish
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Winston Churchill = British Imperialist. Sovereignty for British Aristocrats like himself I think you mean. For the Pashto, Kurds, Boers, Irish, Sudanese etc etc = subjugation.

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