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After Retracing All After Hour Losses, AAPL And AMZN Resume Downward Direction

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After some significantly volatile after-hours action, the wunderkinds of the Nasdaq have reverted back up to their VWAPs as all is well once again and the media narrative can play out... AAPL volume is not heavy (remember we said option-skews were near-record levels - implying everyone and their mum owns downside protection and will be unloading into the open tomorrow). QQQs are suffering more than AAPL for now - implying that's where the hedges went. AMZN's move was even more impressive wrigging back up to VWAP. Who is the marginal buyer here? As we post, both are leaking back from VWAP's safe harbor...

 

AAPL return to VWAP and fade...

 

AMZN return to VWAP and fade...

 

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Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:11 | 2919813 Lost Wages
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Cup 'n' handle? LOL.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:13 | 2919825 Id fight Gandhi
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More like 2 girls 1 cup.

Ps, don't look that up.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2919834 idea_hamster
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Ouch -- my portfoli-hole!

Well, it's a good think that my blackberry-carrying-baby of a broker told me my 401k has a Bernanke put.  Tomorrow, first thing, I'm going to look up what the expiration and strike price is on that one.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:26 | 2919880 RopeADope
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That would be the Bernanke European style put which trades on the Krugman Stock Exchange over on the planet Mars. The Curiosity rover will reach the options clearinghouse in 200 years at current speed at which time you may place your sell order.

 

 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 19:11 | 2920118 NotApplicable
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Yikes! Looks like we've got a rogue algobot running loose.

Lemme guess, Waddel & Reed?

Like I've always said, Kansas will be the ruin of us all.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 20:22 | 2920261 Richard Chesler
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AAPL and AMZN, the new TBTF.

 

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 07:29 | 3004181 Jeelan
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It's literally the central pillar/post/plank of the foundation that is The Bernank's monetary policy. Throw all his fancy degrees and whatever he's published right out the window.

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Sat, 12/15/2012 - 08:39 | 3066030 Jeelan
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The central pillar/post/plank of the foundation that is The Bernank's monetary policy. Throw all his fancy degrees and whatever he's published right out the window.rush paper

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:20 | 2919847 TruthInSunshine
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There is no way AAPL can be allowed to fall significantly. It's literally the central pillar/post/plank of the foundation that is The Bernank's monetary policy. Throw all his fancy degrees and whatever he's published right out the window.

As the AAPL goes, so goes the iEconomy. Virtuously Circuitousness, bitchez!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:22 | 2919863 Frozen IcQb
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iScream

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:24 | 2919870 TruthInSunshine
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I may have to hedge my uber-leveraged long "just buy the f*cking dip" portfolio with some Farmville acreage, to grow e-crops, just in case shit gets real.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:26 | 2919878 Orly
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You're on the roll today, TiS.

You're a funny one, you are.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:46 | 2919941 flacon
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TIS? Where can I buy TIS call options? 

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 06:24 | 3023030 Jeelan
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These repeated hyperexact reversions to VWAP sure make me feel all warm and cozy about the sanctity of the markets. web site

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:38 | 2919915 Ratscam
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reminds of this great scene in the movie "down by law"
I screem, you screem, we all screem for ice cream.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=7rK3s_BP9kE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7r...

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:26 | 2920030 LooseLee
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Nope, the economy goes then goes AAPL, no matter what that POS Central Banker does!

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 05:14 | 3008190 Jeelan
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It's literally the central pillar/post/plank of the foundation that is The Bernank's monetary policy. Throw all his fancy degrees and whatever he's published right out the window.essay writing in united states

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 06:10 | 3023019 Jeelan
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These repeated hyperexact reversions to VWAP sure make me feel all warm and cozy about the sanctity of the markets. http://dissertations.superiorpapers.com/

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:26 | 2919876 slaughterer
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80% of the analyst reactions to both companies earnings is positive.  

AAPL will be pegged at $600 for psychological reasons.

AMZN will be pegged at $220 for same.

Algos will feed on 5cent divergences from these two levels all day tomorrow.  

Scalp. Scalp.

Welcome to HFT ping pong.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:40 | 2919918 Panafrican Funk...
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Yeah, these repeated hyperexact reversions to VWAP sure make me feel all warm and cozy about the sanctity of the markets.  

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 20:40 | 2920294 Catflappo
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AMZN came all/most of the way back because it had some weird print at $228 at around 4.08 when it was actually trading at $208.   Doesn't take much to give an algo a hard-on and away she went....

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2919839 saturn
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Rotten apple squish.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:33 | 2919902 EscapeKey
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fraud and grand scale larceny

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:13 | 2919819 catacl1sm
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And BOOM goes the  dynamite

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:13 | 2919820 Iriestx
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GO LIBERTY22!

 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:13 | 2919822 e-man
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Ouch!  That's gonna leave a little mark...

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:13 | 2919826 TideFighter
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"V"ictory.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:14 | 2919828 Pantafulius
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And....slightly less almost green.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:14 | 2919829 mdtrader
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Get a grip Tyler APPL is on 10 times ex cash. Find something else to hate.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:18 | 2919851 Kaiser Sousa
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exactly who is hating????????

Fuck apple and all their Ishit...

aint gonna save the US economy or its citizens...

no jobs+ no money * a worthless currency = FUCK APPLE......

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:27 | 2919885 Spastica Rex
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Maybe the poster above "made seven figures plus" on AAPL.

Apple - drink of its cup and partake in its goodness.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:28 | 2919887 john39
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yeah but slave labor in Asian countries is a good thing for humanity, right?  /s

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:31 | 2919899 mick68
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Got an iboo-boo?

U lose.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:15 | 2920001 Dapper Dan
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someone else does not like apple

http://houston.craigslist.org/msg/3340818729.html

 

circa 1940 lexington piano upright, needs tuning

call Steve @ 713-545-xxxx

I find it odd that this piano which conceivable required over 2000 man hours to build and with some of the finest material available in its time, has endured 70 years of use, and still sound great, cannot fetch $150.00, the wood alone is worth $200.00 at least to a woodworker/furniture maker, the cast iron assembly weights over 300 lbs @ $8.00 per 100 + $24.00.
If I had listed an I phone 4 S 32gigs Black! -- I could get $200.00
An I phone that was built in 8 minutes with $28.00 in material, made in china, and will only last 2 years if you don't drop it.
What is wrong with this picture????

 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:30 | 2920040 pursueliberty
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I see this all the time.  I attend some machinery auctions and the biggest buyers here lately are scrappers.  I've seen a few older 40's-60's lathes selling at well below scrap value.  Machinery that actually built our country, and was built in this country.  I attended a auction two weeks ago where all but the lightest equipment brought below scrap value.  I bought one single thing at a $20 spot over scrap.  There were 30 people there and less than 10 were buying anything.

 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:41 | 2920058 RockyRacoon
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The real problem is that nobody even knows how to operate the machinery any more.  It's like a scene from some science fiction movie: A futuristic civilization coming upon a relic from the present -- what the hell is this and what was it used for?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 20:34 | 2920282 TruthInSunshine
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-"The real problem is that nobody even knows how to operate the machinery any more.  It's like a scene from some science fiction movie: A futuristic civilization coming upon a relic from the present -- what the hell is this and what was it used for?"

 

It's just like Idiocracy. I keep telling people that Mike Judge is a futurist as was Orwell, and that Idiocracy is a futurist's documentary:

 

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m61/Orangette_Coleman/idiocracy_city.jpg

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 20:11 | 2920245 Winston1984
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Is that some labor theory of value or something?  A piano - I think there's an app for that and I think it has a hipster function that let's you make 'beats' so it works even if you don't know how to play it.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:27 | 2919883 fuu
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Nice 29 month break there bubba. Needed to give you other logins a rest?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:43 | 2919913 EscapeKey
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Really?

According to (permabullish) Marketwatch, they're at 14.38, at present $606 stock price.

And this in a market, where Android gains marketshare every minute.

Where Apple products sell less than forecast, and their tablet lines are under heavy attack from quarterpriced android tablets.

Everyone in China knows that hardware is dead, and as the company with the greatest margins, Apple are first in line for heavy losses.

 

Go to dhgate for bargain priced tablets. No, they're not the same quality as iPad. But for the money, they're pretty damn good. And rapidly improving by the minute.

http://www.dhgate.com/

 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:15 | 2919835 AgShaman
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"Orange Julius"......compliments of 'Trading Places'

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2919836 Village Smithy
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Who is the marginal buyer here you ask? Hmm, someone with access to billions of dollars of other peoples' money and a big enough pipeline to pump it through.. Sounds like the Bernanke to me.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2919837 transaccountin
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options were signaling a 30 point move on apple. i dont see it anywhere near 580, but this is not suprising.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2919838 Quinvarius
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Reminds of the bottom in 2009 when earnings sucked 10x worse and then we printed a shit ton of money.

You can't kill this bull.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:28 | 2919888 walküre
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3 years ago the quality of the USD wasn't disputed. Printing won't save the suckers this time around. Not with a 100% debt/GDP ratio and appreciating.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:17 | 2919840 VonManstein
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TBTF BTFD LOL

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:17 | 2919848 NaiLib
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Guess we will se a hefty Buy Back program shortly

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:18 | 2919849 Seasmoke
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R-E-G-G-I-E    R-E-G-G-I-E   R-E-G-G-I-E

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:23 | 2919867 Haager
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My fears are that we will discover another "I Told Ya So" tomorrow.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:25 | 2919877 Abednego
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wonder who reggie likes for the superbowl - how about this - we let him pick a team and give him any number of years for them to win, then when they do we call him the oracle

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:18 | 2919850 walküre
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So $40 billion on deck to support the casino. I get it. Ben knows the banks are filled with crap and he's buying it off their hands at inflated values so the illusion survives. Fundies are cashing out and the banks are in collusion with the Fed to buy up all the paper they can. That's the only way their casino can maintain some semblance of order and keep selling just slow enough to not draw any attention. It's a "put" alright but it doesn't get anybody excited to step back into it. Selling across the board from insiders and fundies and thanks to Ben, the chaos is mitigated. Roger.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:17 | 2920010 reload
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Agree 100%, its exactly as you describe.

Question is, what's the next stage of the plan?

Get as much crap as possible off the bank balance sheets and fill the banks with freshly printed is underway at an ever increasing Pace. 

Once the banks are good and ready a widespread collapse in asset prices will suit them. But Ben will go full Mugabe if he has to hold declines that are 'premature'

Long way to go probably, but the writing on the wall gets clearer by the day.

 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:19 | 2919854 machineh
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How's that pyrrhic victory over Samsung in court workin' out for ya, Tim Crook?

Patent trolling is for whiners and losers.

That was the giveaway that Apple's edge is gone.

Already I bought a new Sammy phone, and next Monday I'm buying the new 32GB ASUS/Google Nexus 7.

No more iShit!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:41 | 2919922 EscapeKey
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Some years back, an executive from a - at the time - rapidly growing S&P 500 company told me that patent trolling is the last line of attack for companies with slowing growth.

I guess Apple is there now.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:22 | 2919864 max2205
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This market is so cooked but Opex and earnings trade really stands out.

I am ashamed for these dicks supporting these issues

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:35 | 2919905 The Shootist
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Fuck you Bernanke, we're gonna give you a good shave and a dull guillotine!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:24 | 2919871 Unprepared
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That's called seeing the AAPL tree for the AMZN forest.

 

Now imagine both merge and we get the right to such products as the iFire. We would start calculating the beta's of the market to the AAPLAMZN.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:25 | 2919872 ejmoosa
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We'll forget about these earnings at 8:30 am tomorrow when we get that 3rd quarter GDP number....

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:27 | 2919879 HungryPorkChop
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And the October Surprise goes to (drum roll)....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:30 | 2919894 walküre
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Bookmarked just because it would be an awesome prediction.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:42 | 2919925 EscapeKey
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It's a brave man who calls the widowmaker trade.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:51 | 2920080 RockyRacoon
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Heh, heh, heh.   I can see Romney withdrawing from the race if it happens.   "I didn't sign up for none o' this shit!"  Makes the Salt Lake Olympics looks like a walk in the park.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 22:29 | 2920505 EclecticParrot
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Unlikely a Mormon would utter such an expletive (it was, ironically, Obam-bam who used the "S" word this week), though he might mock Biden by exclaiming: "General Motors is alive and Steve Jobs is dead!"

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:28 | 2919889 Pantafulius
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Mmmm...nice green apple....

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:28 | 2919890 slaughterer
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AAPL is going GREEN.  

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:53 | 2920086 RockyRacoon
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Green around the gills, that is.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:31 | 2919900 Ineverslice
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47 million gonna git some snAPPL, you know.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:39 | 2919916 MountainMan
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$630 before the bell tomorrow.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 18:23 | 2920026 obejoyful
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Idiot

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:43 | 2919929 slaughterer
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Exactly.  Futures holding up well so far.  

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 19:31 | 2920161 El Hosel
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  Furking "Market" will be re-priced at 4am, the standard 9 point SPY futures rally/jamjob seems in order here....  The Machine won't want "Investors" to get the wrong idea. Somebody at the plunger headquarters must like that number.... 9

 Need backtest a bunch of broken lines up around there anyway.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:45 | 2919935 Spastica Rex
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I just saw that Apple is predicting a GINORMOUS Consumermas shopping season. I think unemployed people everywhere are finally going to start working again so they can get a credit card so they can buy the most iStuff ever!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 17:51 | 2919950 Seasmoke
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when going to a crowded nightclub, the first question you ask yourself isnt where are the hot chicks, where is the bathroom, or where is the bar......it should always be where are the fire exits........JUST IN CASE !!!!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 19:46 | 2920194 adr
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Since Apple missed two quarters in a row do we get to call an iRecession?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 21:58 | 2920451 venturen
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Which makes it to $2000 first....S&P or Apple? Is the FED just a boiler room?

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