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Presidential Election Preview 1: Timeline And Fiscal Cliff Flowchart

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The fast-approaching US presidential election is perhaps one of the most important in recent history, with Goldman noting that the fate of near-term US economic growth, medium-term US fiscal stability (and, with it, the US sovereign debt rating) and monetary policy hinging on the outcome. In an effort to provide as succinct a view of these potential events, we present a four-part series previewing the big day. Below, we lay out the key dates and likely paths to resolution of the "fiscal cliff"; the most important and most imminent challenge that the elected candidate will be forced to face just after the election.




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Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:44 | 2918249 eigenvalue
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I don't need a timeline. I just want to know who will win. Romney or Obama?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:45 | 2918250 GetZeeGold
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12 daze from Thunderdome.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:52 | 2918275 exi1ed0ne
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Here's my flowchart:


Election -------------> We're fucked

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:01 | 2918306 Lohn Jocke
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Long enough timeline, bitchez?!?!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:16 | 2918351 exi1ed0ne
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Yeah, I probably have too many dashes. . .

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:13 | 2918341 toady
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Here's mine;

We're fucked -> Election -> We're fucked

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:15 | 2918346 exi1ed0ne
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lol - greenie for you

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:37 | 2918414 Shleprock
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Electile disfunction baby!!!!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:47 | 2918254 malikai
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I don't know who'se going to win, but I sure as shit know who'se going to lose - all of us.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:04 | 2918262 GetZeeGold
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Chose straight into hell....or max pain.


Ain't no plan C.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:12 | 2918338 machineh
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... while Israel laffs all the way to the bank with the free loot and free protection.


Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:47 | 2918258 Vincent Vega
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Let me spare you the suspense: Obamney wins; we all lose.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:57 | 2918293 hawk nation
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Romney will win

His lead is toobigforthe dems to cheat

Romney will walk into office or before he gets sworn in the dems/banksters will collapse the system blaming it on the republicans and we will find out what life is like without being the reserve currency

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:03 | 2918313 firstdivision
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Maybe you need to read up on who is some of Romney's key donors.  Other than that, many, many concerns.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:18 | 2918360 Yardfarmer
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Mitt Romney corporate contribute whores.

  1. Goldman Sachs $965,140
  2. BOA $844,734
  3. Morgan Stanley  $768,216
  4. JPMorgan Chase $749, 918
  5. Credit Suisse  $588, 841

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:29 | 2918394 RSloane
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Yep, they are also the same corporate whores who contributed about the same to Obama's election in 2008. What's your point?

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:40 | 2918429 Dr. Engali
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Don't go confusing the poor guy with facts Sloane. The red and blue syndrome has a grip on his reality.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:34 | 2918638 RSloane
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Christ, ZH just had an article that specifically delineated Obama's and the DNC's campaign contributors in 2008 and compared those to Romney's and the RNC's now. They are the same. But he lives in a politically bi-polar world and only one side of the ledger counts.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:18 | 2918363 Wakanda
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Goldman puts Mittens in and promises they have his back when he leaps off the fiscal cliff.  Follow the money.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:30 | 2918397 RSloane
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You might want to do the same for Obama in 2008.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:19 | 2918576 firstdivision
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WTF does

You might want to do the same for Obama in 2008.

have to do with this

Romney will walk into office or before he gets sworn in the dems/banksters will collapse the system blaming it on the republicans and we will find out what life is like without being the reserve currency

Perhaps you need to read the second quote slower so that you would understand my response to the OP. 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:39 | 2918659 RSloane
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You wrote "Maybe you need to read up on who is some of Romney's key donors. Other than that, many, many concerns."

I wrote: "You might want to do the same for Obama in 2008"

Its the same donor list, you moron, with approximately the same amount of money going to each but at different times. ZH had an article about the very same thing. If you can't read it, have an adult read it to you.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:56 | 2918710 firstdivision
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Okay, I figured you had a higher IQ than 80, but you have proven me wrong.  Now I have to explain this like I'm talking to a child. 

The OP posted

Romney will walk into office or before he gets sworn in the dems/banksters will collapse the system blaming it on the republicans and we will find out what life is like without being the reserve currency

Now what word is bolded?  That's correct, you get a gold star now.  Now let us tie this word in with the rest of the OP sentence.  Saying the bankers will collapse the markets if Romney wins, implies what? 

Please, if any of this confuses you, pick up some Hooked-On-Phonics to help you.  I'd prefer if you just killed yourself instead though. 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 12:08 | 2918768 RSloane
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I already typed word for word what you typed [that's called a quote] and my response to it. If you're now implying that what you typed is so egregiously stupid and you're disowning it, I don't blame you. Of course you want me to kill myself, you're a childish partisan of the worst order and the only way you make any point is to 'wish' that the other party will go away. On any level, your last learning event was peek-a-boo with your mommy.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 13:20 | 2918969 firstdivision
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Holy fuck you're the biggest idiot I have had the pleasure of dealing with on this site.  Sweet Jesus, how do you not understand the fact that the OP is stating that the bankers will crash it if Romney wins, to which I said he needs to look at Romney's biggest donors. You are a complete moron if you think I'm partisan, you really need to look at my post history. It's no wonder many people that used to frequent this site a couple of years ago have not returned, as they are tired of dealing with idiots, such as you.  Please do the world a favor and kill yourself so that we can raise the level of intelligence of society.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 13:48 | 2919080 ExpendableOne
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I think you need to get out the big crayon and draw him a picture.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:06 | 2918315 eigenvalue
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Romney only leads in popular polls. Will he get enough votes from electoral colleges? 

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:21 | 2918371 A Lunatic
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Right. Absolute proof that your vote for the lesser of two evils doesn't fucking matter anyway.............

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:07 | 2918320 slaughterer
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Trade for today:


Even the most bulltard analyst of tech (Munster) sees both missing cons. on both EPS and Rev.  For AAPL that means minus $50, for AMZN that means + $20.  

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:47 | 2918256 kito
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The fast-approaching US presidential election is perhaps one of the most important in recent history....

recent history as in....since the last election? i call bullshit on the importance of this election...americas policies do not change, regardless of who is in office.....corporatocracy/centralized big government fed domination will continue on...ndaa wont be repealed, patriot act wont be repealed, drones will continue flying overhead, the fed will continue to control rates and dictate markets, big banks will continue to pull the strings of congressmen, the pentagon will continue with its welfare program......................bush=obama=romney..............

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:51 | 2918269 Dr. Engali
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You made the same point I was going to make. We have heard every four years that this is the most important election in history........Shut the F%*k up already. I'm tired of hearing that.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:55 | 2918286 Vincent Vega
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Exactly. Looking at the bottom line of the above chart the Economic Outlook is Fiscal Drag no matter who wins.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 09:58 | 2918296 Dr. Richard Head
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I think the most appropriate phrase about this election is, "This is one of the most inconsequential Presidential elections in American history." 

DON'T get out and vote.  The only difference will be the color of the horse cock being inserted into your anus.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:03 | 2918310 Vincent Vega
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I'm 54 yrs old and this will be the first time since turning 18 that I won't cast a ballot. I'm having mixed emotions about it but definately not going to vote this time.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:05 | 2918314 firstdivision
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You can always do a write in.  Dildo for Pres, and Dog Shit for VP!

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:12 | 2918339 Vincent Vega
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That's who's gonna win anyway.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:07 | 2918317 Dr. Engali
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I'm 49 and I've never missed an election. I won't this time either. I am going to write in Ron Paul. I can at least send them a message.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:08 | 2918324 Dr. Richard Head
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I was going to vote for Gary Johnson, but then after realizing that the DIEbold machines would probably switch votes in Ohio I changed my position and just will not vote.  They don't care about the message until no one shows up.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:56 | 2918480 nonclaim
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"... until no one shows up."

I'd wager that is their plan.

What we called republic/democracy as a form of government is dead since a few decades ago. Not sure what to call it now but seems a very unstable form of decadent monarchy.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:17 | 2918356 fonzannoon
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I'm 35 and have never voted. Until this election I had the George Carlin philosophy. I may vote this year. As of right now I am torn between writing in Lawsofphysics or JPMhater.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:29 | 2918390 Alpo for Granny
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Our own ZH election. That would be badass. As long as I can be head of the FDA and increase the quality of this Alpo, i'll be happy.

I am thinking Truth in Sunshine, CPL, Laws of Physics, JPM Hater and a few others for candidates.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:54 | 2918490 odatruf
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It's too bad we could not bundle our vote in a binding way so as to force someone to address reality.


Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:35 | 2918409 RSloane
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I thought about writing in the good Doc, or slewie_the_pi_rat. Lawsofphysics would definately rock. I could see him forcing congress to grow their own food if they wanted to eat, and reducing their paychecks to zero unless they produce something valuable.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:43 | 2918440 fonzannoon
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I like Doc and Kito etc. too much to write them in. I figure if we put a good man in there with morals and principles to do what needed to be done there would not be enough bulletproof material around to stop what would be coming. Lawsofphysics has the fear factor. He seems like an angry Jesse Ventura.

I would love to see Nmewn and Crocket Almanac in the house and LTER in the senate to ensure gridlock.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:42 | 2918673 RSloane
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LawsofPhysics for Pres, Dr. Engali for Vice Pres, or you can switch them. Nmewn reminds me of Nigel Farage. I would love to see him let loose in congress.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:18 | 2918582 kito
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Ill vote for the candidate that is willing to share his/her spoils with me.....oh wait....that is the old paradigm......never mind.......

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:23 | 2918374 toady
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I had to vote this time. Too many tax increases on the ballot to skip it.

I already wrote in Ron Paul and mailed my early ballot

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 12:12 | 2918792 RSloane
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Good for you, Doc. I'm going to do the same, or vote for Jill Stein in protest of her arrest before the Rombama vs Rombama debate. The Green Party has now filed a lawsuit against the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 10:09 | 2918326 machineh
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By not voting, you avoid making yourself an accomplice to murder and racketeering.

Shun the polls, spare your reputation.

Thu, 10/25/2012 - 11:24 | 2918604 Urban Redneck
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By not voting AGAINST the tyrants, you facilitate their facade of mandate.

If more people demanded other options it would expose the farce of the false 2-party dichotomy.

As it stands they are gaining legitimacy, not losing it.

Faux Choice Loser 39,104,550
3rd Party + Write-ins 20,409,567
NoShow (+ ineligible) 85,105,077

Faux Choice Loser 39,198,755
3rd Party + Write-ins 9,678,754
NoShow (+ ineligible) 100,233,366

Faux Choice Loser 50,460,110
3rd Party + Write-ins 3,941,064
NoShow (+ ineligible) 100,409,900

Faux Choice Loser 59,028,439
3rd Party + Write-ins 1,198,504
NoShow (+ ineligible) 93,426,447

Faux Choice Loser 59,930,551
3rd Party + Write-ins 3,275,970
NoShow (+ ineligible) 98,584,076

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