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Forget 1%, 99% Or 47%: It Is The Turn Of The 70% To Be Pissed
Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Whoever expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization expects what never was and never will be.
-Thomas Jefferson
Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.
-George Carlin
The Seventy Percent
People are going to be pissed off no matter who wins this election and that is a very important social dynamic I believe is vastly under appreciated by the majority of mainstream pundits and analysts out there. This is also very distinct from the environment that prevailed in 2008. Four years ago, the financial markets were crashing and the economic future of America was circling the toilet bowl, yet a majority of Americans embraced the potential of a young, inexperienced biracial politician from Illinois who was saying all of the right things. Despite the gigantic disappointment he has proven to be as President, there is no denying that he had all of the Democrats and most Independents under his spell on this day four years ago.
Fast forward to 2012 and the country isn’t “divided” as mainstream media talking heads like to say. The country is pissed off. Genuine and legitimate frustration permeates the land from sea to shining sea and rightly so. Ever since the banker coup of 2008, crony capitalism has been institutionalized as the only real way to make money. If you aren’t connected or “too big to fail,” sorry but America isn’t the place for you. What makes the economic nightmare so much worse is that it is being coupled with a complete and total decimation of civil liberties. One by one the Bill of Rights is being ignored and indeed trampled on systemically by the political and economic oligarchs emboldened by their successful takeover of the executive, legislative and for the most part judicial branches of government. Many Independents disagreed with Obama’s economic philosophy but gave him a pass because he promised to end the wars overseas and restore civil liberties. Instead, what we got was a President who signed the NDAA on New Year’s Eve 2011, which included section 1021, allowing for the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial until the “end of hostilities.” Well, because now know the Orwellian “war on terror” is never-ending, the indefinite detention is forever. The worst part is that Obama claims he didn’t want these powers yet when a group of high profile plaintiffs filed a lawsuit against section 1021 and won a ruling deeming it unconstitutional, what was the President’s response? He appealed it to death until he found a panel of judges to agree with him. Not only did he want this power, he seems to crave it. Another well deserved Noble Peace Prize.
The above is just one example of many. His kill list, which the Administration now refers to as the “disposition matrix,” grows by the day to include people with zero affiliation with Al-Qaeda, and Obama seems to relish in the absolute power of being judge, jury and executioner. Tragically, a President Romney will be no different. He is already on record supporting the NDAA, war without Congressional approval and we heard his complete and total support of Obama’s drone strategy during the third and final debate. Sure, people that care about civil liberties will vote for Romney saying that he will at least be better on economic policy, yet that is the exact same thing people did with Obama in reverse. They ended up being disappointed with him and Romney will disappoint as well. These guys are both big government, crony capitalist puppets and that’s the bottom line.
Another thing that must be considered is basic math about the U.S. political landscape. According to the latest Gallup poll, 32% of Americans identify themselves as Democrats, 28% as Republican and 38% as Independents. Now of course, amongst the Independents a majority lean more toward one party or the other, but this is much less the case today than it was in 2008 or in any election prior. Furthermore, the mere fact that so many choose to identify in this manner makes it clear that they are unhappy with either of these political gangs. These Independents want legitimate third, fourth or fifth party options but instead end up herded into the mainstream parties by a sophisticated corporate scam, part of which centers around the Commission on Presidential Debates, the gatekeeper of these circuses which ensures no alternative candidates can debate and excludes any difficult or uncomfortable questions.
There was a fantastic article written in the Huffington Post yesterday that examines the rampant frustration within the Republican Party titled: Frightened Republicans Try to Close Down Election Competitors, Such as Gary Johnson. I thought the most powerful quote was:
Both the Republican and the Democratic presidential candidates talk about liberty, freedom, fiscal responsibility, free enterprise, choice and the Constitution. But neither candidate believes in those principles. Elect either Barack Obama or Mitt Romney, and government will be bigger, spending will be higher, regulation will be more intrusive, the military will be fighting more wars, more service personnel will be dying, more money will be wasted abroad, civil liberties of more people will be violated, and more privacy of more citizens will be invaded. Overall, the free society will continue to retreat.
The above is invariably true and brings me to the key point of this article. Should Romney win, the 28% of Americans that identify as Republican will be thrilled, and the remaining 72% will be largely upset and on edge. Should Obama win, similarly, the 32% registered Democrat with be thrilled and the remaining 68% will be upset and on edge. Hence, the 70% referred to in the title of this article. This is a recipe ripe for social unrest and it will be coming to our shores as I outlined recently in The Global Spring.
Personally, I am done with the two part system and will be voting for Gary Johnson. I am not playing their games any longer and I will not fall for any more of their scams. In my brief voting years I have pulled the lever for both Republicans and Democrats, but I do not think I will vote for any one of them ever again. I implore everyone to do the same, no matter who you vote for, vote third party. The only wasted vote I see is one for either Mitt Romney or Barrack Obama.
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(in a pituful voice trailing off fainter and fainter) r ocky...... rohky.....raaah-ky ...........rrrr' rr ah..............
Regarding Gary Johnson and his representing of us: "Unlike President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney, Johnson, a former New Mexico governor who initially ran as a Republican presidential candidate, accepted federal matching funds to help run his campaign. By doing so, he reaped more than $333,000 in public money for the election cycle."
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/10/gary-johnson-campaign-in-de...
edit: Forgot about this gem: "As we all pause this weekend to remember the events of September 11, 2001, our thoughts are with those who lost their lives, those who saved so many lives, and a nation that showed its greatness in countless ways. 9/11 and the days after were a time when ordinary Americans did extraordinary things. Our thoughts and our gratitude are also with the amazing men and women of our military who are putting themselves on the line every day to keep us safe. The fight against those who would do us harm continues today, and it is a fight we must carry out with the same determination that was so magnificently displayed by the heroes of 9/11." -GJ
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/09/libertarian-presidential-ca...
When I got to the line about voting for Gary Johnson I got a little patriotic thrill and thought, "I'll do it!" I'm embarrassed to say that the feeling last perhaps as long as three seconds. Shame on me.
Was it similar to Chris Matthews little patriotic thrill?
Not familiar with that. No cable. No satellite.
That a reason? I only saw the CNBC video clip on the web. Even with parental controls, you can use any search engine to find it.
Does lack of interest qualify as a legitimate reason for blowing it off?
You said you were "unfamiliar" with it, as if you "never" in 4 years, heard or read anyone making any reference to Matthews Obama thrill moment, right. Because you had no interest, right.
Apparently there's two of us ignorant wretches who are unfamiliar with this so called "thrill" due to lack of interest. Interesting........
Yea, interesting.
Not being aware of the views of Chris Matthews is infinitely more interesting than hanging on his every word and citing them years latter as if the man were some kind of Cicero.
I do not trust the vote results as reported.
I do trust the vote results as reported.
if you do not trust the propaganda of BLS or MSM..recent news reports on MSM of election results for nov 7th running on several TV stations last week? mistakes, trial runs? I trust a co. owned by soros will give us fair numbers don't you?
diebold computer voting is 100% accurate and not hackable..you may not see many people voting on nov 7th but results will show majority of us voted..
those who count the vote matter the most in an election, NO?
I'm not sure whether I trust the vote results as reported or not. But I know for damned sure that I don't trust the result of the votes.
If I had ever heard about it I don't recall. Why do you believe that something Chris Matthews said about politics is of such importance that it could never be forgotten?
No big deal, just don't forget to vote for your guy on November 7th.
So I should write myself in?
Yes, it sends a strong message.
I refused to vote for the red/blue puppets that were tossed our way for a few years. This time I will vote for Gary Johnson because it has the chance to send a shot over the bow to these despots to listen.
Then we get out the rope. Here tree, good tree.
Just shows the system works when fucktards can't think for themselves.
Why are people voting at all. The Organic Laws (Articles of Confederation,Northwest Ordinance, Constitution) of the United States of America limit federal taxation and legislation to the territory owned by or subject to the exclusive legislative power of the United States.
United States Territories: District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands
Voting is just a way of conning you into the democracy. If I do not have the authority to make laws for my neighbor, and my neighbor doesn't have the authority to make laws for me. Then how does both of us voting for one guy give him the authority to make laws for both of us. It's a fallacy. Ed Rivera
http://www.edrivera.com/
It is quite apparent that the modern-day courts function and thrive on assumptions, presumptions, opinions, and contradictions of conclusions of fact to maintain the legal fictions, or fictions of law, which the courts preside over. These devices are for the control of the American people through deceit.
SEVEN ELEMENTS OF JURISDICTION
http://www.freedomsite.net/files/juris.htm
Unraveling Federal Jurisdiction within a State-CSPOA - Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association
http://www.cspoa.org/library/Unraveling_Federal_Jurisdiction.pdf
“Citizenship for Dummies”
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/mitchell/citizenship.for.dummies.htm
American Governance
http://www.usavsus.info/
City of Dallas v. Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944, 945-46 (Tex.Civ.App.-Dallas 1922):
"The rights of the individual are not derived from governmental agencies, either municipal, state or federal, or even from the Constitution. They exist inherently in every man, by endowment of the Creator, and are merely reaffirmed in the Constitution, and restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government. The people's rights are not derived from the government, but the government's authority comes from the people. The Constitution but states again these rights already existing, and when legislative encroachment by the nation, state, or municipality invade these original and permanent rights, it is the duty of the courts to so declare, and to afford the necessary relief.
Why are people voting at all. The Organic Laws (Articles of Confederation,Northwest Ordinance, Constitution) of the United States of America limit federal taxation and legislation to the territory owned by or subject to the exclusive legislative power of the United States.
United States Territories: District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands
Voting is just a way of conning you into the democracy. If I do not have the authority to make laws for my neighbor, and my neighbor doesn't have the authority to make laws for me. Then how does both of us voting for one guy give him the authority to make laws for both of us. It's a fallacy. Ed Rivera
http://www.edrivera.com/
It is quite apparent that the modern-day courts function and thrive on assumptions, presumptions, opinions, and contradictions of conclusions of fact to maintain the legal fictions, or fictions of law, which the courts preside over. These devices are for the control of the American people through deceit.
SEVEN ELEMENTS OF JURISDICTION
http://www.freedomsite.net/files/juris.htm
Unraveling Federal Jurisdiction within a State-CSPOA - Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association
http://www.cspoa.org/library/Unraveling_Federal_Jurisdiction.pdf
“Citizenship for Dummies”
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/mitchell/citizenship.for.dummies.htm
American Governance
http://www.usavsus.info/
City of Dallas v. Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944, 945-46 (Tex.Civ.App.-Dallas 1922):
"The rights of the individual are not derived from governmental agencies, either municipal, state or federal, or even from the Constitution. They exist inherently in every man, by endowment of the Creator, and are merely reaffirmed in the Constitution, and restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government. The people's rights are not derived from the government, but the government's authority comes from the people. The Constitution but states again these rights already existing, and when legislative encroachment by the nation, state, or municipality invade these original and permanent rights, it is the duty of the courts to so declare, and to afford the necessary relief.
The premise here is completely false. Both Romney and Obama will have huge numbers of independent voters voting for them. How can the author claim that all of the non Democrats and non Republicans who vote for the winning candidate will be disappointed when the candidate they voted for wins?
Fucking stupid actually.
Ron Burgundy is a genius...listen to him...follow him. Rega;r;ess os fhe spelling and regarless of the whatbeer party you renoyed tyonhiht. Tormrroq welll get serpoius bout shit again...but tongitht we are a littloe loose. Night nihgt ZH...sjhuttoign down the ponze (for now)from PDX.
BTW- sleep tight Kevin...your bonus is safe. SPX closed goood as green.
BTW BTW- kids, if anything happens know that I tried my hardest to fix things for you but...well, I wanted better for you.
sometimes you just have to let the kids go, let them live by their own standards, drop the hovering protective influences of control and let lessons be learned along the way. . .
Whaddaya mean ? I just saw a new Republican party t.v. election ad and it said the difference between the Republicans versus the Democrats is that the Repubs are "for smaller government" and "less spending".
(Sadly, too many Americans think that after watching that 30 second spot, they are now 'informed' on the matter. Undoubtedly they'll repeat it to others like a trained parrot.)
It's Friday...when you get tired of souless politicians and bankers, this helps remind you of what it was like to put your soul into your work....we call it "killin it"....enjoy, regardless of this guys politics...oldie but an awesomie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO3-UdjJjrs
Killing it indeed. Great boots too.
Except for the whole 'youth culture' and music industry being controlled and manipulated by the powers that be - - its not bad.
After doing some research on the topic, its impossible to view kiddie focused 'pop music' in the same way - - and may even make much of it difficult to listen to. Particularly sobering, is watching/listening to major performers talking about the true nature of the music 'industry'.
Class warfare? Do not be afraid The 98% will get skullfucked no matter who wins.
Right you are Ken. However, I would rather be skullfucked a little further down the road than have Obama's regime take control of the country/planet as the next four years will be nothing like the last four. Anyone who thinks there is no difference between Obama and Romney is not seeing the forrest. Sure they are both run by the banksters but I think Obama may change that in his second term.
At least business will get off their wallet for a while if Romdog gets in. There is absolutely no hope if Barry is still running the show and it will never get better as by 2016, 60% of the country will be living off the tax base. Then there is no turning back until the collapse/martial law/police state/mad max and then who the fuck knows. Prep all you want but that will do you no good whatsoever against a drone or super armed troops. Hopefully there is some sense in the people who work for the government but I'm not holding out much hope for that either.
Also, the US has never been this divided since the civil war and that didn't turn out well for the average guy. Hard to believe but this guy wants a breakdown of society and then probably some sort of Chavez fucking thing where term limits no longer apply. I guess we get him to run the "free" world for the next 16 years if he gets back in. Don't anyone kid themselves that there is no difference as I think Romney will actually live a little bit by the constitution whereas with Obama, everything will go out the window. Voting for Johnson or Paul is an idiotic move unless they originally planned on voting for Obama all along.
better pissed off than pissed on
Is it raining????
You don't know what you are missing !!!
Personnally, if Obama wins, I'm going to hit myself as hard as I can in the left shoulder.
If Romney wins, I'm going to hit myself as hard as I can in the right shoulder.
Then its back to stackin...
You made do some homework on that " One Hit Wonder" Country singer. Luv ya Hulkster! :-)
Luv ya right back at you YC !!!
Wherd the Pi-rat go ???
Can't find him, Hulkster. He was pretty tough on Tyler. Maybe Tyler will let him back in?
I think Slewie was mad about some other things? We would appreciate / consideration from Tyler.
In any case, Tyler has given us this forum, and I respect that.
But you have a fucking overpaid gubbermint Job. WHERE'S MY CHECK?
Moi ??? No way...
Stackin' what? Emergency Charmin?
Good to know you vote will not count.
We seriously need to get over this "a vote for *** won't count" thing before we can make any progress in this country.
Your vote is like your name. You only have one to offer, you don't like having other people pretend you don't have one at all, and you take care every time you put it out there.
Because this represents who you are. It is what you stand for. It's you, you alone, you in thought and deed, and not the average of everyone around you. Your individual life, and all that it means, and what you are willing to go to blows for.
Your good name.
Your single vote.
People should vote the same way they deport themselves in public. Not like a clown with no name who goes along with the flow just to fit in, but like a human being who has a will.
Yeah your vote doesn't count for much in the larger scheme of things. But then, neither does your name either. Except to yourself.
Sometimes you have to go with what you got. Even if it's not much. Even if it's nothing at all. You stick to what you know matters anyway and you go with that.
So I will vote. But I will think hard about who I want to have in the job. And I will either pick that person on the ticket if I see them there or I will write in their name.
And if that name isthe name of the mechanic who fixed my brakes and then shared his views on domestic politics afterwards, and who turned out to be a man of substance who really earned my respect and admiration in the process, then the next day I'm going to catch him at the shop and tell him I voted for him for president of the United States of God-damned America because I thought he was a good man with sound ideas and he would have made a hell of a national leader just when we need people of substance.
That's what I'm going to do. Dammit that's what I'm going to do and I don't give two shits if it matters. It's what I am going to do.
blu- you give a valid reason for voting, IF
IF- we had open and free elections
IF- both parties weren't working to suppress votes or play 'underhanded pool'
IF- dead people didn't vote
IF- ballots kept not just an electronic record, but also one that was kept with a true disinterested 3rd party; AND a paper copy was kept
IF- the software for the voting machines couldn't be hacked by parts from today's Radio Shack by a 7 year old (as opposed to the Radio Shack we had when 'we' were kids and you could actually build a secure electronic ballot machine)
and
IF- the parties running wasn't the same as placing a bet on a coin with the same face on both sides, just to be able to have a clear conscious on your bet (to be able to say that YOU bet in the game).
Either way, it doesn't matter about your vote, and all they did was take your money, waste your time, and keep your attention off of the other illegal, immoral, and reprehensible shit they are doing throughout the world, in your 'name', since they were supposedly 'elected' by you previously.
I can't speak for "öther" voting methods (like touch screen voting) but in Fla its paper ballots scanned into a machine.
The actual physical ballot remains behind in the hands of the counties/state...the Diebold thing is bullshit and dies on the vine of the reality of paper ballots. I'm with blu...its either this or we spit on our hands and begin slitting throats...paraphrasing Mencken.
Obama's flaming out, the incredible shrinking president...lol...whatever comes next, at least we can relish that...and its truly freeee! ;-)
To vote under the present circumstance is like sitting in Gitmo while the torturer asks which hand shall we break today, your left or your right. Of course there is the minority tough guy who might answer none of the above, but it's really hard to feel any satisfaction once the bones start breaking.
errrmmm, no, a vote is not who I am, nor am I a voter.
what I stand for is not represented by government, nor can it be in this nationstate, the real history of this corporate state can never come close to representing who I am, nor what I believe as truth.
I realise what you are saying, but "the job" you mention isn't even as described, so how can anyone fulfill the role? whoever gets put in office is a figurehead, a lightning rod for all that goes down behind the scenes. therefore, whoever campaigns to be put in that figurehead role is an insane narcissist to even want that kind of attention.
and everyone who is "running for" that office knows exactly what I'm saying - if they've made it to the point of any media attention, then they know the game, something voters are either ignorant of, or in denial.
Kudos to you! People like you can change the world! Now if only we could reach spineless 'followers' like (HappyCamper) with such a simple, direct, and self-honest (not cowardly) approach....
Your theory sounds promising, but unfortunately we all know that probability theory states that roughly 85% of this 70% will be fully-fucktarded modern-day sheeple who will bleet and bah and bend over for tptb. They dont know their ass from their head. The other 15% of this 70% will keep quiet and continue to secure their futures. At this point, the rig is up. If you're aware, you get to choose sides and play. If you're not aware, you're riding the wave of luck and fate and liable to get fucked, and oh what a fucking it's going to be. The information age has ushered in Mass Participation Schadenfreude... think about it.
If/When the markets crash, you will be thinking, "all those poor bastards' 401k's/pensions/retirements etc up in smoke. And you'll be watching it burn. We are living in science fiction and i for one have just purchased a new vaporizer with which to watch all of this shit on satellite+ digital cable in pure wonder.
Fuck yeah! Long vaporizers (and volcanoes too)!
+100 Great Comment
Soon it will be the 100% as we ALL milk off the increasingly obsolete system in the http://www.udderworld.com
ESSENTIALLY ALL OF OUR JOBS WILL BE ABLE TO BE REPLACED BY TECHNOLOGY VERY VERY SOON
The mathematically easiest place to replace workers with technology will be Financial Services and Economics.
Imagine and entire world of financial workers, professors, and blogs not to mention countless buildings, millions of vehicles wasting fuel....all being replaced by ONE SUPERCOMPUTER.....IBM Watson.
Postal workers are already on the way out......
Same with countless manufacturing workers with Baxter.....
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/10/26/baxter-the-22000-robot-goes-on-america-tour/
WE ARE ALL LIKE A BUNCH OF HORSE AND PLOW FARMERS CRYING ABOUT THE INVENTION OF THE TRACTOR....
IT'S NOT JOBS WE WANT...IT'S THE PRODUCTION THAT MONEY FROM JOBS GETS US THAT WE ARE REALLY AFTER.....and soon most of that production will come from technology and not people
An UDDER spammer.
STFU already.
For all I know, you are simply an aglo...and have already been replaced by technology.
alstry Your bulb is dimming. Time to upgrade ? LED, CFL > Brain Matter?
Until "technology" can create tangible assets from it's own imagination (or sketches on cocktail napkins) through fruition, I assure you I am not obsolete, Milquetoast.
In the meantime, create some original content for your cut and paste blog. Milquetoast. Maybe share it as a ZH CONTRIBUTOR if you're up to snuff.
"shUDDER to think" - Submitted by Milquetoast
You may not be obsolete....but you are bankrupt in this system.
You are part of the system....and when the system is bankrupt, so is all within it.
Not really a big deal....simply a question of how do we reset a bankrupt system that everyone depends on for survival?
It's resetting itself milquetoast. Also, ECOsystem.
Your chalice of cut and paste "Zeitgeist Banana Quik" might be better tipped @ http://www.chicagogangs.org/
We should replace the Preznit and Congress with machines TODAY. Once we stop paying their Internet bills, they won't bother the rest of us.
As a maintainer of the technology, I must confide that I have no plans to share the fruits of MY labors with the riff raff.
Can't understand why you get all the down votes.
Well, don't vote. It's like giving your creditcard to the repo-man half brother of the hooker that you paid not to tell your neighbours mother in law you got Corzined.
Mike Krieger. "Voting for Gary Johnson"???? Get a fucking clue. You sound like the guy who keeps walking in on his wife riding some other guys cock. For the 3rd time. For the 5th time. Either leave the bitchor blow her and her next lover away. This socio-intellectual masochism should not be foisted upon unsuspecting sheep. This is article is redirecting critical attention away from the fact that the US is approaching an abyss. A dark place that up until it actually manifests, most of us have a hard time believing is upon us. But it is here. And you are talking about voting for Gary Johnson... voting is for people who dont know we're being run by insane psychopath criminals who rely on our collective stupidity and their own superior cunning.
So, if you are not happy with voting, what's your solution to effect change?
Guns and Ammo (let's not forget the gold) - against one of the most heavily armed hierarchies in Global history?
The very well-established (and you better believe VERY well prepared) Ruling Classes tolerate us lesser beings whilst we play their games and transfer the fruits of our labours to their asset collections.
If the "Millions of well armed preppers" start to be a problem, they will be eliminated with as much consideration as you'd have for destroying an ants' nest. You'll all have your small arms - they have access to (and WILL use) remotely-delivered NBC strategies.
This is not some Sci-Fi film with a happy ending. This is reality, and in reality, the "Good Guy" NEVER wins.
Alerting other individuals that what government does to us is immoral and counterproductive.
Check and double check.
Change begins in our own home, not somebody else's.
You sound like the guy who keeps walking in on his wife riding some other guys cock. For the 3rd time.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I bet you didn't have alot of friends when you were growing up.
duplicate
Voting = consenting to be governed. In not voting, I will still be governed, but not consenting to it does help me sleep at night.
We have all forgotten that we pay the salaries of the president, every congress member, every supreme court justice, every cia agent, etc. We have forgotten we are the boss, and we have become too timid and intimidated to do what needs to be done, and its too late now to fix it before the implosion. Of course this is just the normal cycle of humanity, and we are just at the moment at the start of the descending half of the cycle, with a long way still to hit bottom.
Brother, we aren't the boss of anyone. Everything they've got, they've stolen.
more like we handed it to them trusting they'd 'take good care of us'
We were all children once. Thing is, some still are.
Waaah!
I tell you, nothing confuses people like a principled non-voter. It's like they've never even thought of the possibility of the idea of NOT consenting to criminal rule.
And they've definitely never considered the possibility or a non-voter chewing on their ass for engaging in evil, as all they expect is the apathy they've been told is the only reason that people don't vote.
Then I lecture them on their treasonous ways, and ask them why a supposedly patriotic American would support an unconstitutional form of government which gained power in the Coup of '13. "I didn't spend six years in the Marines so that you could enslave me and my family under a criminal cartel."
By that time, they're seeking any and all exits from the conversation. Like I said, all voters know is what their apathetic belief system tells them.
Every time a moral person holds their nose and votes for the lesser of two evils, they have chosen EVIL.
Which is more evil, the guy who beats somebody to death with a claw hammer, chiding his victim the whole time, or the guy who beats somebody to death with a claw hammer and makes no insults?
Should we therefore favor the murderer who keeps his mouth shut to the one who is not only a murderer, but a rude person too?
Hold your nose if you wish, but it truly only encourages them.
Well the one who bludgeons away silently will be harder to convict of a hate crime.................
There will come a day where you plea bargain down to murder to avoid the hate crime rap.
They stubbed a moral toe on your non-voting position.
You're not properly deferring to authority.
In addition, not voting is a vote for whoever the winner is. Where's the practicality of voting for a loser? Man up and pick a side and VOTE! It's the only time you have any power at all.
I have a lot of power. But none of it comes from the system of electile dysfunction.
Majority of Americans understand change and sacrifice is required and willing to follow Executive Branch leadership if change is fair and everyone sacrifices in order to resolve this unsustainable deficit situation. . Problem is during an election false promises abound which are meant to garner votes rather than putting forward concrete measures. What happens early in 2013 is crucial and could easily turn an American goal of cooperation into one of disgust with the entire political system in which case Mike Krieger may be correct. Polititians take note---it is time you earned your money and think of your country rather than your political contributors or party politics designed to keep you in power. TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR ALL OF US
Change, and certainly sacrifice, only apply to the 95%. The top 5% will never accept any changes that require them to make sacrifices of their standards of living, whilst the top 0.1% are probably more acquainted with the sacrificial concepts espoused by Denis Wheatley ("The Devil Rides Out" and novels in a similar vein . . ). For them, "change" will always be for their betterment, by definition.
And that's why we need Mittens. He believes in a Power greater than himself.
He was humbled at Red Rocks and went into a corner to pray.
O-Phone believes in nihilism.
Quit being haters and think +
Mittens will be limited enough by TPTB. He needs our help.
Hmmm, yup problem solved!
Wonder if general sentiment was similar to this back in the late 1850's ?
My neighbor is the biggest "LIBTARD" you have ever seen. He creeps/slithers over when the markets hic-cup, looking for guidance to give to his asshat brother that trades the markets.(Berkley Liberal)
He asked me point blank. "Who is going to win the election", a little while ago. I said Romney.
He shit his pants and said, "I agree". Then he proceded to ask me about "mortgage rates", as he is "elbows and asses" deep in debt from a remodel on his house.
I then began explaining the Feds. MBS buyback program, and where the money will flow.
He looked like a f.ucking "special ed" case, at which point I just gave up and said. "I have been up since the London open, and I'm going to take a nap".
LOL
Truth. I respect the fact that you are "refraining" from calls in the financial markets.
Keep up the good work. Delta is (imagination) I'm 1/2 half ex-patraited
Bad elections don't cause civil unrest. HUNGER causes civil unrest.
That should come soon enough. It doesn't matter a lick who happens to be sitting in the White House at that point.
A speculative food bubble coupled with high unemployment and the inability to clear bad debt is a recipe for economic rigor mortis.
more like economic assholor explosious.
Shit is approaching the fan at break-neck speed. It's like it's all coming together now, and it'll rain shit within the next few years. America is not sustainable in its current form for another 5 years. This is the last election of America as we know it.
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assume Mr. J wins...where is his support in Congress to get anything done. Do we need four more years of grid lock ? Or do you believe we are as a nation at a cross roads, with little time to turn back to Founding principles. what needs to happen is that the pissed off form a third party with the huevos to get things done for America. Get Tea Party type congressmen in, senators in, this way when we finally elect a new George Washington he will have the backing he needs.... sorry, but a vote for Mr. J is a waste. Romney may turn out to be not so bad and still give us time to get a true Tea Party guy in office in '16. If Prez Owe gets in it will be too late by '16 as he will have destroyed the essence of this country or will procliam himself emperor as FDR did to a term 3, 4 or 5.
assume Mr. J wins...where is his support in Congress to get anything done.
To Congress, "doing something" means spending more money on useless programs, rewarding their TBTF friends, and passing laws to take away the few freedoms we have left. If Mr. J simply vetoed every bill that Congress passed, he would be doing a lot more good than either of those other clowns could even think of doing. And he was famous for vetoing legislation as New Mexico governor.
those who use CONgress to milk the system do as they're told, and are rewarded with benefits, insider trading tips, and a free ride as long as they're "in office" - to pretend otherwise is insane.
It was bad enough 4 year ago, when the welfare crowd, minorities, and lobotomized students were in the streets cheering the new boss (who may as well have been the old boss).
Now, if I have to listen to Republicans and suburban whites cheering a Romney victory, I'm really going to barf!
Wanna barf? Watch this virgin voter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o6G3nwhPuR4
Really? They're anticipating $2Bn dollars spent(read: wasted) on this election. Two sides of the same worthless(US FRN-backed) coin.
I'm not a doomer but I can't wait for the System to just fail on it's own merits, or lack thereof. The suspense is killing me(and a lot of brown people), while Benny and the Jet-blowers reinflate yet another bubble in stocks and the Dollar. Inflation is impacting average Americans negatively and dooming the least-able poor in the rest of the world to a rise in food prices that cannot be absorbed so it must be adjusted through attrition, death that is. I think the majority of real thinkers agree that the System is breaking down, not many though on the exact timeline but I think it's inevitable nonetheless. Stack'em high and long(food, tradeables, and PM's), the coming storm is going to make Sandy look like a $5 blow job in Hoboken...
Obviously there's a hell of a lot of leverage available from a $2 billion investment in the 'right' president.
This video is also interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8
It is amazing how education has changed in America. We sell our children short by not teaching them when they are most able to learn.
The oldest schoolbook I could find online was a 4th grade reader that was published around 1873.
Check out Page 121 - "Speech of Logan Cheif of the Mingoes" - as recorded by Thomas Jefferson.
http://archive.org/stream/eclecticfourthre00mcgu#page/120/mode/2up
I ain't voting for either of the pricks. They wanted a global system now they have a global system of revolution.
Morons they are.
American social unrest defined - grumbling customers in a long Starbucks line.
yo yo ima gonna riot... yo.
I think we all know who the rioters will be.
the rioters to date have been the least deserving of the populace, the public sector (cajoled by Unions)
it's the thieved from private sector that should be the ones kicking off, they pay for these bloated Jabba the Hut Govts feeding frenzy, they're the most robbed and abused of society
and I think some of us know who the rioters won't be. . .
Along the lines of the parent post:
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/
Installment 4 of 5 is at the drop, the earlier parts are further down the thread. Don't know when the final chapter will turn up.
ZHers, please read. I've been following this fictional narrative for a month and it makes my hair stand on end.
I read the first 3 parts and it's uncanny how believable his scenario is. My only disagreement goes back to a Chekhov quote that goes something like: if there is a gun on the table in act 1, it will be used in act 3. Nukes are on the table, and push comes to shove, they will be used. The mentality of the American military machine is so deranged that I take it as a given that they would rather see the entire world destroyed before surrender. I think their idea of "acceptable casualties" far exceeds what most people want to believe.
From Part 1:
This is what I've thought was the objective of the airport circus shows and entities such as the TSA all along ...
btw, "President Jameson Weed." LOL! (search jimson weed)
From Part 3:
How soon will that bite us in the ass in the real world? The war profiteers have been the priority for a long time now...
How the fictional story that blu posted ties in with ZH...from Part 4:
It's what many of us here have thought might/could happen for many possible reasons, no?
Fictional yes, but a damn good read. Thanks blu.
just read it, love this line:
Internet news sites contradicted the official story in every detail, but the internet’s low signal to noise ratio made an accurate picture hard to assemble.
also enjoy the Article V scenario. as i was reading it, i was thinking to myself how pathetic it was going to be to live through all this in real-time. anyone got a time machine that i can borrow to jump to the end of part 4? i'll bring it back, i promise ;~)
yeah me too, call it preparatory conditioning of the herd.
Don't the 68% have more guns and God on their side?
Well the 1% (and most certainly the 0.1%) have Nuclear, Biological and Chemical capability on their side, and the demonstrated willingness to use it to further their own ends (Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Agent Orange, and whatever else has been more successfully "swept under the carpet")
Maybe there's some grain of truth to the 21/12/2102 mindset after all??
YES! Parrotile,
most important comment made so far ...
That 70% shall be pissed off symbolizes
more irreconcilable social polarization!
The whole system is terminally corrupt.
It is far, far worse IF one does enough research to realize that the whole thing is based on huge lies, illustrated by the "war on drugs" and the "war on terror" and so on. We ACTUALLY have a system of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, and those are total runaways. The mainstream politics of the USA has become completely based upon
TRIUMPHANT, HUGE LEGALIZED LIES,
BACKED WITH LEGALIZED VIOLENCE!
The world system is REALLY global electronic fiat money frauds, backed by atomic bombs. The elites that made and maintained that system have Nuclear, Biological and Chemical capability on their side, and the demonstrated willingness to use it !!!!!
THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FACT!
There IS irreconcilable social polarization headed towards psychotic breakdowns, due to the inherent nature of the runaway triumph of fraud, backed by force, driving society to constantly become more and more insane, and for the people who built that system becoming more and more desperate to keep it going! Absolutely nothing in any of these elections can fix the FACT that the USA is now completely controlled by HUGE LIES. Moreover, the worst factor in that situation is that the pyramidion people who made and maintained that system of huge lies, backed by violence, DO have weapons of mass destruction, which makes sure that the irreconcilable social polarization is unfixably INSANE, and therefore, headed towards some crazy collapse into chaos, due to the inherent dynamics of too much "success" from controlling society with LIES!
I agree that there is some grain of truth to the 21/12/2102 mindset. I do not believe in any magical particular date. However, I do believe that nature going nuts IS related to civilization going crazy. The current global civilization is the runaway triumph of fraud, backed by force, in which the pryamidion people, the 1% (and most certainly the 0.1%) DO have access to weapons of mass destruction, and have been selected by the conflicts of history in the past to be the kinds of people who are able to decide to use those weapons.
The astronomically sized amplification of fraud, backed by force, is what the USA, as the heart of that beast, represents, and these elections are a demonstration that the system is out of control, and impossible to fix. Whatever happens, the only thing that can be predicted for sure is that there WILL BE MORE irreconcilable social polarization!
The established systems will continue their insanity of runaway frauds and force ... when that starts to fly apart, as it must, since it automatically gets worse at an exponentially accelerating rate, there is no reasonable doubt that weapons of mass destruction are going to get used ... However, that quauntum leap in force is NOT going to make the frauds stop being frauds. Those weapons are NOT going to fix the problems, only make them way worse.
The only theoretical solutions must be based on radical truth about the huge lies. However, that possibility is represented NOWHERE at all in this election. It is impossible to vote for more radical truth, but only to vote for some different professional liar, or immaculate hypocrite!
This kinda furthers my point. Either the bankster-politicians end up in handcuffs and chains or the missiles fly. It's beyond a Cuban Missile Crisis moment, with no leadership in sight. Cooler heads must prevail. JFK, Eisenhower, and others warned the whole world. It's time to do the right thing.
archetypally speaking, when the FatherSkyGod believers continue to call for an "end time" resolution, and the DeathCultDisciples continue to seek power over MotherNature in order to FuckThingsUpForever, then we have a monuMental fight for humanity, right down to how Humanity is defined, and defiled or defended.
the insanity you rightly point to has been here all along, and will continue to infect those who refuse to be aware. . . of anything beyond their own selfish needs and desires.
working as intended. it was always This.
"...this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it."
You need to rethink the math. First of all, 50% of the electorate is so disallusioned that they don't even bother to vote. Factor that in and that just about doubles the amount of pissed off people from your baseline.
It's BARACK.....
And his last name is O'CUNTUS
Get some pussy and call back in the morning.
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The two party system is the ultimate source of control, it provides people with the feeling that their vote actually makes a difference, they are placated until their candidate is elected and utterly fails to deliver on the promises made during the campaign. It is a stage play, put on and presented to the American People every four years, the actors change, the leading characters change, but the script they read from is the same.
If you look at each of the Administrations, particularly over the last 40 years you will see that the incoming President, whether Democrat or Republican maintains at least 98% of the policies of the previous Administration, whether Democrat or Republican. In other words, nothing changes in the script, sure some of the stage props are changed out, there are cosmetic changes made to allow the memebers of each party to proudly point out those superficial changes, but the core policy direction is always the same no matter which Party wins the White House.
It is a game of control, of mass manipulation and deception, the intent is to maintain a population that is emotionally inclined to vote for the most popular actor in their minds, but rarely does this population reach beyond the surface to understand just what is taking place in this rigged system, rigged between the powers of the two Parties to maintain their structural authority over the political and social process. It is truly distressing to think that so few actually think, that so few are aware of the workings behind the current system, perhaps more distressing it that the masses don't seem to mind the fact that they are manipulated.
Smells like organized religion to me. Politics and desert religions have the same good vs. evil motif that delivers millions of insane followers.
Bingo. "Bush can't do anything because of the Democratic Congress." "Obama can't do anything because of the Republicans." Nobody can ever do anything because of the other guy. And there's Limbaugh, Hanity, Maddow, et al who serve to keep the populace "informed" in order to promote the one thing that keeps them in the 1% club year after year. America does seem to be the exception to the rule 'a house divided soon falls'............for now.
the amrkn public was pacified while the grabbin' was good, the world's resources flowing their way, no effort, no thought required. . .
now that they're beginning to experience some of what other, supposedly lesser states have always been subject to, the flag lapels are fraying, and there will be much whining 'n' wailing, count on it.
I've read a whole lot of these articles in the past few months. It would almost seem that the smartest, most insightful and articulate people are the most horrified about the way things are. This is the first one I've read from the Liberty community and it was damn straight.
Nice.
It sucks, but it is what it is. I'll probably vote Anderson (but definitely not Obama or Romney).
I'm expecting an American Spring 2014, fwiw.
America nose-dives into the sewer in 2017, that's when the Spring will occur
people react to events, the majority do not behave pro-actively to prevent something... they're like politicians, sheep
Doesn't matter how many peope are pissed.....TPTB have a firm grip on things, a highly militarized law enforcement community at their call and plenty of technology to keep control of the proles.
Look at how OWS got killed. They're just waiting for violent opposition to arise so they can lock up even more people - feeding the prison-industrial complex... after all those privatized prisons contractually require a 90% occupancy rate - and like Motel 6 - the higher the better, so what if it exceeds 100%....
But then as unemployment benefits expire, you can expect more people TRYING to get arrested just to get a bed and 3 meals a day.
And not just in America. Western legislature has a real penchant for passing ever-more-complex laws and statutes, but a surprising reluctance to "clear out all the old stuff" - that can be kept waiting "just in case".
By criminalising minor (inconsequential) actions everyone "becomes a Criminal" in the eyes of the State, and with all those "criminals" running around, the State has an easy justification for more heavy-handed policing and more "revenue extraction" via fines.
Once you realise that taxes, fees and fines are all the same thing - movement of "your" assets to "The State", the concept of a Western Police / Militia State becomes rather clear.
"...Personally, I am done with the two part system and will be voting for Gary Johnson...."
the world has one less fucktard today.....thank you for escaping the matrix....a vote for obamney is a vote for naziism......
also there is the constitution party...
anyone who argues that one is constrained to the two leading candidates because they are the only rational choices for winning is a total stupid fucking cunt!!!
obamney is bush - john sununu - neocon crap i mean creep - bragging that george bush sr endorsed romney - what a flying bucket of horseshit....
As long as Dancing with the Stars airs and EBT flows, there will be no riots. Just a continued soft kill of the unwashed masses.
so, you waiting for "them" to do the rioting for you?
anyone else here getting prepped for these much discussed riots?
uh huh.
Rioting hurts.
takes up valuable screen time too. . .
afk.
It's going to take significant defections from both major parties to form a viable third party.
how 'bout we acknowledge the party's over, and get serious about the state of this deception.
bla bla bla. Friday afternoon post.
Wake-up, there is nothing new in the 32/38 % split. Instead of calling for ... calling for what by the way? A revolution that would give power to the 28% and piss the 70%?
Reminder to the impatient crowd...democracy is not the best form of government but no-one has invented a better form yet.
Nationalism and populism are the sure road to dictatorship.
Some would say we already are, giving the red/blue doctrine.
We surely are an economic fascist's wet dream though..
The one thing no one ever thinks about, apparently except me, is just how few mfe'rs control our lives. Think about it. 100 Senators. 450 Congressmen. One POTUS, a Sec of State, a few bankers here and there, a few newspaper editors, George Soros, etc .... what are we talking about, folks? Maybe 700 people at the most?
Think about it.
Think about it some more.
Not so ...the puppets in parliaments control nothing, their votes are bought by a brigade of lobbyists ..it is the lobby-groups representing vested interests (Big Oil, Big Retail, Big Pharma, Insurnace, Healthcare, Nuclear energy etc etc) that make Govt policy
we are controlled by parasite commerce and minority groups
Keep your head down and avoid the control devices. THEY have trouble controlling those who don't want anything from THEM.
"It Is The Turn Of The 70% To Be Pissed"All Govts, or Presidents, are elected by a minority group of the populace.
That is not "democracy" however the sham artists try to dress it up
It gets worse...
The voters who vote are borderline insane
The sane voters are the 50% of the electorate who do not vote because, "it doesn't change anything". They are the realists (sane ones) because Govt is a Titanic set on a pre-defined course to produce garbage and ultimately wreck the nation (all monopoly institutions by design and by nature do precisely this)
this is not "democracy" in any way, shape or form. This is a suicide path as so many nations already wrecked by Govt or undergoing a slow-mo train wreck as we speak testify and prove beyond all reasonable doubt.
The history books are crammed with the carnage of this sham, Govt
Stop Paying Tax ..don't fuel suicide for your nation
You've got your facts wrong, the number of Americans who identify themselves as conservative is twice the number who identify themselves as liberal. America is a conservative place. That's why everyone will be confused when Romney wins.
From Gallup:
You'd better practice saying President Romney. http://gulfcoastcommentary.blogspot.com/
You've got your facts wrong, the number of Americans who identify themselves as conservative is twice the number who identify themselves as liberal. America is a conservative place.
The first point doesn't imply the second.
There's been a strong effort to make "liberal" into a personal insult over the past 30 years. A LOT of Americans call themselves "conservative" because they have a very poor understanding of the liberal/conservative spectrum--hating the Democrat party doesn't make you a conservative.
The fact is, even around HERE you'll find that most posters really do support *some* kind of social safety net, and really do believe that certain "rights" or "freedoms" should be respected by our social institutions.
Those are both extremely "liberal" beliefs.
At BEST, you could make a case that the USA is slightly "center-right" oriented. It's not at all "conservative." A conservative state would be someplace like Saudi Arabia or Singapore.
Take a look at the avatars on the posts here, and note the cultural references. Many of the popular "heroes" around here were as liberal as they come.
i am one of those undecided voters.....i cant decide
Paul, Johnson or Stein
No, you are not! Seasmoke, Thank you.
A very low turnout would send a message... I expect a higher turnout will be MSM spun as democracy in action
I am certain both Parties are losing support... it must be obvious to any serious Democrat that Bumma is a bankers puppet, and the usual anti-war leftie sentiment must have others leaving the party in disgust in droves at his warmongering (an identikit to Bush)
the voter numbers will be fabricated to hit the all-important over 50% of the electorate waterline
I'd be surprised if the real figure is any higher than 30-40%