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In Advance Of Frankenstorm Sandy, NYC Suspending All Transit Services At 7:00 PM Sunday Through Wednesday
It seems like it was only yesterday that the panic ahead of Hurricane Irene, which was a light breeze by the time it hit NYC, was being spread by various government agencies and every possible media. It is deja vu time, and moments ago, in order to be "fully prepared" ahead of Frankenstorm Sandy, NY governor Cuomo just announced that at 7:00 pm tonight, the New York Metropolitan Transit Authority, i..e., subways, buses and trains, is suspending all service at 7:00 pm (and 1,100 national guards are being activated) and will be halted until Wednesday at the earliest. This also means that tomorrow Wall Street will be a complete ghost town as everyone takes two days off, and the algos will be the only ones in charge (more or less as usual).
And an update on what is actually happening from the Wunderground blog:
Sandy's tropical storm-force winds now extend 450 nautical miles from the center on the northeast side of the hurricane. This is a very, very large storm, and I suspect the #1 spot (Olga of 2001) is in jeopardy, as well.
Top 12 Largest Atlantic Tropical Cyclones
These sizes were determined using the Extended Best Track dataset (Demuth et. al 2006).
Name, Year: Radius of tropical storm-force winds (nautical miles)
1. Olga, 2001: 600
2. Lili, 1996, 450
2. Sandy, 2012: 450
3. Tanya 1995: 400
3. Irene 1999: 400
3. Igor, 2010: 400
4. Wilma, 2005: 375
5. Felix, 1995: 360
5. Michael, 2000 360
5. Irene, 2005: 360
5. Irene, 2005 360
5. Florence, 2006: 360
High resolution MODIS visible satellite image of Hurricane Sandy on October 27, 2012.
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The model projections for this thing are just downright scary--coupled with the MSM's bungling of the Irene situation last year, I'm willing to bet cry-wolf syndrome will claim a fair number of victims this time around.
Each run is scarier than the one before it. The winds to the north of the storm (at 1000 ft) could be 80 MPH or higher, per the NAM model.
As the storm moves inland the winds will be blowing the whole length of Lake Michigan right into Chicago and Gary.
Let's hope those GE nuclear reactors have plenty of fuel for the back-up generators.
How are the algos going to get to work if the trains & busses aren't running?...
It's okay.
Follow Christie he knows where the food is.
I guess I'll have to ride my bike to Jersey if I want a big gulp.
The State and MTA would love to declare everyday a "state of emergency." They get federal money when they do this. MTA would love to shut down the entire system at the slightest sign of a fart wind to close their $2 billion pension liability.
Get money and shut down services.
Declare emergency, get bacon.
+10000 calories
Funny comment of the week
And in the event you need to go Donner party as a last resort, it's not a bad idea to have him around anyway.
He's got a gammy leg.
Last time I heard, they burrowed through fibre optics at light speed.
+1 --- HAHA -- that really made me laugh out loud.
Kevin Henry, you're our only hope.
Monday is Skynets' big chance.
Sounds like a martial law drill.
That is a shit ton of airborne water. It's gonna be a big rain.
Just leave this here.
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If sea water gets into the subway system this will corrode the wiring. Rust will be a big issue. Can you imagine if a transportation system that supports 8 million were to ground to a halt for an extended period?
NYC is one of the biggest, most awesome machines on the planet. It's a phenomnal place full of trillions of moving parts including the people.
If it were a nice little sport car, you'd want to put a tarp over it to protect it from the weather. Today is meterologist paradise!! There are some really interesting things happening.
Barkeep, I'll have what the gentleman on the floor was having.
+1
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
An irishman is never drunk enough as long as they can hold onto a blade of grass and not fall off the earth.
Mayor Bloomberg sucks.
So; to keep the subway from halting they halt it. Must make sense to someone.
Don't you mean 8 million people that support a transportation system?
I think you are under appreciating that system. There are 8 million on that tiny island along with the 30 million surrounding the island providing services to it. NYC has a bigger, in real net terms, population than all of Canada. There is no city better engineered from the foundation and up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llEpW8XxUp8
It might be corrupt and taken lumps, but nobody can overlook the sheer size of it as a project. It's amazing from an engineering perspective.
It is also quite a dump when there are no Sanitation Engineering services for three days............
Yup. I found the constant smell of garbage and shit around the same as Paris. Do not miss working downtown at all. Filtered air in the offices or the "fresh" air at lunch. I couldn't begin to imagine how bad it would smell.
Good luck to all in the path.
Stay safe and I hope to chat with you all again.
Correction CPL: there are 8 million people across the 5 boroughs. There are at most 2.5 million residents of Manhattan.
the 30 million person area includes all of long island, much of northern NJ, Westchester and south western Connecticut. Parts of PA and upstate NY counties are included in that number.
That being said, I reckon 20 million plus people will be without power at some point across the eastern seaboard by Tuesday morning. The number could reach 40 million if the snow fucks up Appalachia and Ontario.
"History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!" - Blue Oyster Cult
Great opportunity for a martial law test run.. practice run?..... Maybe more of a Defcon like step up in force of an already existing martial law.
The big question: will HAARP be able to save the Obama presidency??
;)) Still working on that model....tough One, had some glitches lately...
Nothing can save the Obama Presidency, whether he gets re-elected or not.
I think this time things may get out of hand. Lots of folks are probably aleardy putting on their looting shoes. And Bloomies army has probably already got itchy trigger fingers. Not a good combo.
Can't let 450 million rounds of ammo go to waste.
It still hasn't been delivered. Bullets aren't made in the us, packaged yes, India and Pakistan are the hub for that. They have a terrible shortage of coal, diesel, everything...ORI has discussed it a couple of times. Anycase, someone answered the RFP, but since lower bidder wins...well...a lot of things aren't coming.
Thankfully our "Patriotic HFT programs" will show up regardless...
Rain or shine, snow or sleet, we deliver your market!
Until the power goes off.
or the market goes down.
What if only the power to view them goes off yet they are still trading with each other in a true dark shadow pool? What will happen after two days of out of control skynet trading? Dow 6million? Nasdaq at 45?
Lighten up into the Dow 6M rally.
Correct.
Can I have massive underlying electrical infrastructure problems, cascading failures and nuclear plant age/maintenance for 200 Alex.
if ou have FB, please follow:
http://www.facebook.com/easternpaweatherauthority?fref=ts
http://www.facebook.com/JerseyShoreHurricaneNews?ref=ts&fref=ts
http://www.facebook.com/bobweatherman.burger?ref=ts&fref=ts
not plugging...all in NJ, on the shore or in eastern PA...very good sources for models, updates, etc
be safe all...scary stuff
Who are you and what is this facebook?
Kurgman says, "Help Sandy help you -- smash some windows before it gets here!"
5' of snow predicted in Virginia and W.Virginia....unreal
I'm on Cape Cod and this morning the tide at the harbor was nearly to the brim with only a 20kt East wind
Tomorrow it will be moon tide with a whole day of 70kt winds
I predict many of the beach front roads and homes will not be there Tuesday
Holy crap. Build a massive snow fort, take pictures and submit it.
http://artofmanliness.com/2010/12/09/how-to-build-an-impenetrable-snow-fort/
Build it, and they will come. Tell the girls it's your fort and they aren't invited.
When the frost is on the pumpkin . . .
How at risk are the Hamptons? This is coming from someone who is not familiar with the area.
Pud,
Could you continue to post on this story with what you see thru next wednesday ??
Would love ZH posters who live up on the east coast post of what they are seeing in their community.
I have a relative who lives between Mystic Ct. and Rhode Island on the water. Might be a tough go.
Just a few miles inland of Longbranch/Monmouth bch myself
A good chance Seabright will be missing come Wednesday
Surf Taco rules!
Good luck out there.
@ PUD
When/where did you see "Five Feet"?
I think we'll see larger storms as the norm as the ice sheets continue to melt away.
Gotta love America. Even our storms are fat as fuck.
Anyone else taking notice of more people referring to Sandy as a cyclone? What's next, yuan instead of dollars? Meters instead of yards? Start redrawing the football fields...Oh wait which sport is that now?
Sandy is strictly speaking a hurricane for not much longer... Extra-tropical cyclone will be the correct nomenclature...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extratropical_cyclone
And you thought it was some kind of liberal conspiracy no doubt....
The meteorologist usually avoid the cyclone and cyclonic words because they confuse people who think they mean tornado.
Not to mention those in Mass who think it is either a vacuum cleaner or beer chugging contest.
I call BS with your johnny come lately Weather 2.0 shop talk - just like all those new nerdy stats in baseball
hogwash!!!
Hurricane Floyd kicked Northern NJ's butt on September 15, 1999 but not listed here. GS Plaza and telephone switching stations were submergeed in Saddle Brook.
Ugly comparison here, I suspect.
Anyone know anything about the '38 "Long Island Express" hurricane?
More here: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html
Not good...
...REALLY not good.
Camille was pretty bad. This is still a Cat 1 all those others Cat 5's. Andrew was pretty tightly packed...JUST missed Miami actually. Better to be safe than sorry of course...
DV, not taking this storm seriously would be foolhardy, IMO.
Don't be complacent due to a "number". Categories of 'canes only connote wind velocity(I'm pretty sure), and do not directly indicate DESTRUCTIVE POTENTIAL.
Coastal areas face record STORM SURGE, the most dangerous aspect for lowlands. As others have mentioned, we can probably expect quite a few missing homes and roads.
Ask Katy Hepburn.
..................STOP CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING.......................
Fuck you's chemical spraying terrorist.
Even blessed by our goverments....
I live at the Jersey shore ,As soon as this flattens my home ,I'll be marching into town Hall and demand a reassesment or revaluation at best .....I guess it took a storm to lower property taxes something no Politician has ever done .
There's already people being flooded :
There is coastal flooding already here in south Wantagh!!!!!! I would say at least moderate because its on the road!!! That really really does not bowed well for later!!! Im at my parents house 3 blocks from the canal we have never flooded (not even in 92) but i think we at least see water around here which is sooooo unreal!
My sister in Babylon who lives on a canal just off the bay is reporting that this morning's high tide was already coming over the dock. We're going to head down there now and move stuff off of her first floor.
Waves forecast, already some buoys reporting 28' waves near the center of Sandy-D
Link?
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/
Google FTW:
http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/37500-hurricane-sandy-threa...
Weather.com reporting lakeshore floodwatch in chicago:
http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/USIL0225?phenomena=LS&significance=A&areaid=ILZ014&office=KLOT&etn=0001
NYC will survive a big wind/rain. Biggest risk is accidents from trying to remember how to turn on the stove when all the restaurants are closed. Mostly just a pleasant exercise in actually talking to the neighbors. NJ and all those killer trees, has the real problem. NJ peeps took a week to make it back in after Irene.
The tides on the south shore of long Island are way high this morning, and fire island is getting chewed up by the sea...otherwise very pleasent with a nice westerly breeze
Hairy, very hairy indeed. Personally, if i was staying around i would tie myself to something in the basement, heh. Good luck with it.
NYC Weed delivery services are going to be very very busy for the next 12 hours.
This storm might help solve the problem of which trees to cut down for firewood. Hopefully I won't have to cut up the new roof over the back porch after it lands in the neighbors property.
Wait........so THIS will be the "hurricane of the century", what will we call the next one, that will happen within 3-5 years????
So 1/3 of the US population lives on a 650 mile stretch of coastline, within 50 miles of the shore!!!! Holy Shit, I hope everyone's got plenty of stored food, fuel, and generators?????? Ohhh but that would make you a crazy prepper right???? Good Luck out there!!!
As the rain poors down and the wind howls, Wall Street will be sequestered by weather :
LET THE NO VOLUME MACHINE RAMP BEGIN!
Perfect.
Stay dry.
Links for Sandy
To find out if you need to evacuate, please contact your local emergency management office. They will have the latest information. People living in New York City can find their evacuation zone here or use this map. FEMA has information on preparing for hurricanes.
People with disabilities and caregivers seeking information on accessible shelter and transportation can contact portlight.org
Corolla, NC webcam
Atlantic City beach cam
Statue of Liberty cam
An impressive 1-minute resolution satellite loop of Sandy today is at the CSU RAMMB website.
This impressive 1-min GOES loop beginning at dawn Saturday shows Sandy's heavy thunderstorms fighting against high wind shear, and the tilt of the vortex to the northeast with height.
Our Weather Historian, Christopher C. Burt, has an excellent post on Late Season Tropical Storms that have affected the U.S. north of Hatteras. He also has a post, Historic Hurricanes from New Jersey to New England.
3-D "fly-around: of the rain towers of Sandy
Hurricane Sandy info from NASA.
Joe Romm at climateprogress.org has a thoughtful piece called, How Does Global Warming Make Hurricanes Like Irene More Destructive?
For those of you wanting to know your odds of receiving hurricane force or tropical storm force winds, I recommend the NHC wind probability product.
Wunderground has detailed storm surge maps for the U.S. coast.
The National Hurricane Center's Interactive Storm Surge RIsk Map, which allows one to pick a particular Category hurricane and zoom in, is a good source of storm surge risk information.
Research storm surge model run by SUNY Stonybrook for New York City.
Climate Central has a nice satellite image showing which parts of New York Harbor are below five feet in elevation.
ALL ABOVE VIA: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html
Thanx for the linkies...and now to prepare the popcorn. Aloha.
send the patriots to m'fuckin london boi
This does not sound so good. I wonder if the damage and loss of life will be greater than that of Katrina. I understand that the calls for damage from Irene did not happen. I have read far too many posts on the comments section that minimize the dangers of this SYSTEM. The capitalization of the word as well as the following is for EMPHASIS.
I am concerned that we will not ever hear from the contributors of such posts again. I guess that is Darwinism at work.
This is NOT just a Hurricaine. It is a Hurricaine which is colliding with anther strong Arctic Low Pressure system. That will provide for some uncharecteristic precipitation that will lead to CATASTROPHIC FLOODING. Most are unaware that Hurricaine winds are not the leading cause of mortality. The main cause of your DEATH is by drowning in flood waters. This is unlike a Tornado yet Hurricaines also spawn Tornadoes.
Get a clue. You are in for a wild ride. It will kill off a bunch of Obama support. I guess that there is a Silver Lining after all.
Relax. It is barely a Category1 and as soon as it makes landfall, it will drop off to just a storm, squall or depression. Stay away from low water areas, shorelines, docksides. Make a pot of chili or soup, some coffee and kick back with the Sunday Times.
I grew up along the Gulf Coast and lived thru Cat-5s like Gilbert, Carla, Rita, and many other Cat-2s, Cat-3s that I forgot their names and their devastation soon passed. Upper East Coast storms are NOTHING like the big ones in the Gulf or the Pacific typhoons.
Trolling are we?
what a bunch of pussies. when i was young i walked to school both ways (uphill) through the hurricaine.