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Israel Conducts Air Strike On Sudan Missile Base In 'Dry Run' For Iran Attack

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This past Wednesday, nobody reported that a squadron of 8 Israeli F-15 jets dropped 4 two-ton bombs on the giant Yarmouk missile factory on the outskirts of Sudan's capital Khartoum. Which is just as Israel wanted it. Because what otherwise would be a provocative incursion tantamount to war (if only Sudan wasn't a complete basket case of a country), was really nothing short of a dry-run for an Israeli attack on Iran. At least according to the Sunday Times. "A long-range Israeli bombing raid last week that was seen as a dry run for a forthcoming attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities has destroyed an Iranian-run plant making rockets and ballistic missiles in Sudan.... The raid, in which two people died, triggered panic across the city. Witnesses said they heard a series of loud blasts followed by the sound of ammunition exploding. “It was a double impact — the explosion at the factory and then the ammunition flying into the neighbourhood,” said Abd-al Ghadir Mohammed, 31, a resident. "The ground shook. Some homes were badly damaged." And... nobody cares. Here we leave it up to readers to imagine the epic horror, deep revulsion that would greet news that Iran had conducted a pre-emptive strike against Israel by blowing up a missile factory in Turkey, killing two innocent people, just to make sure it can.

A visual summary of the attack:

This is what was left of the Somali factory after the Israeli self-appointed (because national borders are for chumps) punishment force was done with it:

And the full post-mortem of the operation that took place 4 days ago, via Voice of Russia:

The attack occurred in the early morning of October 24, when eight Israeli F-15I jets – four of them carrying two one-ton bombs, escorted by four fighters – struck a gigantic Yamrouk missile site. The evidence is that this strike is a general rehearsal before the Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities.

 

According to western defense sources, the 2,400-mile return flight took the Israelis four hours, with the jets flying south along the Red Sea. The planes entered the Sudanese air space from the east to avoid Egypt’s missile defenses.

 

The anti-Iranian operation kicked off two years ago when Mossad agents murdered a Palestinian businessman and a HAMAS highflyer, Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh, in a Dubai hotel suit, retrieving a suitcase with a military agreement between Iran and Sudan, wherein Khartoum offered Tehran its military sites to make weapons.

 

The Yamrouk facility produced Shahab ballistic missiles, which were then to be delivered to HAMAS rebels in the Gaza strip and other Middle Eastern regions.

In other words: add the Israeli invasion of Iran on the "To Do" list, alongside Grexit, the official Spanish bailout request, the Chinese Congress, the Japan-China territorial re-escalation, sliding down the Fiscal Cliff, and the debt ceiling breach, as soon as possible after the November 6 election.

And all that, of course, assuming Sky Net does not finally take over tomorrow when only robots will be left trading.

 

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Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:41 | 2926042 jonjon831983
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I thinkthere were a couple articles put up about Sudan suspecting it was an Israeli attack. No headliners though.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:43 | 2926049 jonjon831983
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Reuters article wasn't very detailed when I last saw it, appears they have fleshed it out a touch.

 

"Sudan blames Israeli air strike hit for munitions plant blasts"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-sudan-planes-idUSBRE89N0WU2...

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:58 | 2926086 knukles
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If SkyNet doesn't take over tomorrow?
Thats al been training anyhow
No news is Timmahs deal with the world

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:06 | 2926104 jonjon831983
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Found this on a website: "Remote U.S. base at core of secret operations" (Go to Page 3)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/remote-us-base-at-...

 

"As the pace of drone operations has intensified in Djibouti, Air Force mechanics have reported mysterious incidents in which the airborne robots went haywire.

In March 2011, a Predator parked at the camp started its engine without any human direction, even though the ignition had been turned off and the fuel lines closed. Technicians concluded that a software bug had infected the “brains” of the drone, but never pinpointed the problem.

“After that whole starting-itself incident, we were fairly wary of the aircraft and watched it pretty closely,” an unnamed Air Force squadron commander testified to an investigative board, according to a transcript. “Right now, I still think the software is not good.”"

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:21 | 2926139 redpill
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Is SUDAN a stock symbol for a social media or mobile app design company?  If not, it doesn't make the radar.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:48 | 2926196 malikai
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IIRC the Eagle only has 1 - 1.5hrs endurance. Does Israel fly any tankers? If not, this was not an "Israeli" attack alone. It was an Israeli/US strike. Because someone had to juice them up on the way out there.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:59 | 2926218 redpill
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I seem to remember that Israeli F-15s make heavy use of external fuel tanks precisely for this sort of run.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:24 | 2926272 malikai
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Just looked at the infographic again. It was a stupid question to begin with. They had an old 707 oiler along as well.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:09 | 2926384 markmotive
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Empires always eventually fall. Israel is simply America's tenticle reaching out across the Middle East. Billions of dollars in annual subsidies says so. What will happen to the Middle East when the US can no longer afford to keep Israel? I don't want to know.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2012/10/10/they-hate-us-because-we-bomb-them/

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:14 | 2926394 john39
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you have the relationship backwards.  the U.S. has been a zionist sock puppet for decades.  look how many dual nationals are in the U.S. government... and look where the money goes.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:58 | 2926735 strannick
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Isreal doesnt have the luxury of looking at the world through the eyes of an undergraduate liberal arts major

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:07 | 2926749 Enslavethechild...
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Why doesn't Hilary condemn Israel and send the CIA in to install a puppet government in Jerusalem like it has in all the other countries? Terrorist Jews are the worst kind of terrorist, even terrorists hate them

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:20 | 2926763 strannick
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"Install a puppet government like in all the other countries". When everywhere's a conspiracy, doesnt leave much room for response as its all part of the conspiracy.

"Even the other terrorists hate them" Its cause the other terrorists hate them that Isreal has to keep kicking the shit out of them.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:34 | 2926827 john39
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33 day war? israel got beat down by lowly hezbollah.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 00:07 | 2926858 strannick
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The girls in the Isreali army -of which consists a significant portion- could, and regularly do bitchslap the regulars of any Isreal's not so neighborly neighbors. Maybe instead of berating their females into covering their faces, maiming their genitalia, and generally squashing their rights, the mighty men of the Isreal-hating Muslim world should gear up and send out their women. They couldnt do a worse job than the men.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 00:27 | 2926918 john39
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so, about that 33 day war... guess that was because the israelis sent their men?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 00:43 | 2926943 strannick
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Is this the ''33 day Quagmire'' you're referring to (emphasis on ''refer'')?? Did you get your battle report directly from The Hezbollah Daily Sentinel?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 04:53 | 2927115 Boris Alatovkrap
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Q: How many is Sudanese for screw incandescent bulb?

A: None is cannot find bulb - all bulb is in factory - kaput!

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 07:14 | 2927186 Lebensphilosoph
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That's an outright lie. Females do not perform combat roles in the IDF. In fact, it is the Israelies who established conclusively that having females fighting on the front lines has a detriminental effect on the combat effectiveness of a military. If you want to talk about liberal arts majors, 'gender equality' in the military is not taken seriosuly by anyone but rabid feminists.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:52 | 2927005 Pink Floyd
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"lowly" does not make justice to hezbollah.

Recall that it is the strongest power within Lebanon, a country griped in constant civil conflict.

Yet, hezbollah lost half of its standing army (except that when they are killed they *become* civilians).

hezbollah's own internal reports, which were leaked eventually admited to these heavy casualties.

 

That being said, Israel did not ace that conflict. I wonder if they admit to that...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 20:06 | 2929573 SWIFT 760
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Kikebot, go to Israel. You are self chosen to your self proclained god given land. Get the fuck outta here. 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:13 | 2926761 jeff montanye
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right.  it's the sanctuary for the persecuted jews.  steal some arab land (neutral in ww2; should have taken a nice chunk of bavaria if justice were to be served) and expect that everything will be just fine.  was it ever thus?

oh and its israel (a before e when around galilee)

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:05 | 2926744 jeff montanye
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you are so bloody right.  the zionists got stupid truman to ignore his far wiser secretary of state, general george marshall, and assist israel in its formation.  it has been downhill ever since.  they (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century) egged on the zionists bush and cheney to start the war in iraq, using 9-11 as transparent pretext.  it goes on and on.  

remember though, it's not the jews that are the problem; it's the zionists.  naomi klein, glenn greenwald, tony judt, norman finkelstein are among the many telling jewish critics of the excesses of likud israel and its pernicious diaspora.   bless them indeed.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:40 | 2926455 Missiondweller
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Billions of dollars in annual subsidies says so.

 

Along with Egypt???? We give them almost as much.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:21 | 2926581 john39
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all to buy loyalty from the military, to ensure that egypt doesnt turn against israel.  in other words, just another subsidy for israel.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:04 | 2926741 TBT or not TBT
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We're paying them off instead of having to go to the barely greater trouble of kicking their asses.  Arab armies always get laminated by western ones in classic army to army combat.  The rout would be so horrific, whether we did it or the IDF did, that we'll pay a lot not to see that happen, year after year.   Really, it would be gruesome fish in a barrel stuff that would make us sick at our stomach. like the highway of death back scenery from Operation Desert Storm.  

At some point there will be a conflict though.   The Egyptian public is stark raving bonkers, or 90% are in any case, with the batshit insane tinfoil stuff they believe about Israel and jews, and the importance of their women not having a clit, and often signficant section of their labia either.   The Egyptians WILL have a worse future than their already very bad present, because of their demographics, their insanity and lack of ability to produce anything anyone outside the country wants, Nile archeological cruises aside.   The blame for their troubles will continue to be put on Israel.  Already is put on Israel.   Whoever runs the joint in the future will try to deflect public rage at famine, disease, etc against Israel.    An asskicking will happen, must happen, at some points.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:25 | 2926799 jeff montanye
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but the colonialists (britain, france, later the u.s. and israel) are to blame for much of their current problems.  http://www.answers.com/topic/colonialism-in-the-middle-east

take a longer look.  when the average european had a vocabulary of a thousand words, lived and died ten miles from his/her birth and a good number of them painted themselves and lived in trees, the muslim arabs kept track of the works of plato, aristotle, homer, virgil, euclid while themselves adding to the store of classical learning eventually giving the europeans a chance at a renaissance as a reward for the crusades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 02:12 | 2927023 Oh regional Indian
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Seriously Jeff. The Eurocentric mind-set is staggeringly under/mis-informed on history.

When touchy topics are served up, the ignorance and racism on this board is quite shocking, given this is supposed to be the educated free thinker hang-out.

And yet, you hear Santayana's refrain nedlessly, hollowly quoted.

ori

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 07:30 | 2927196 Lebensphilosoph
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Utter rot. Even primitive tribesmen living in neolithic conditions have vocabularies that exceed a thousand words. But then you merely display your own prejudices and racism by implication with your denigration of the 'primitve' and exhultation of 'civilisation'. Your 'dark ages' is another complete and utter fabrication no longer taken seriously by any Medievalist or student of Late Antiquity, first spun by the Hellenophiles of the Renaissance no less, who mocked the exquisite artistic ahievements of the Germanic Middle Ages as the work of barbarians because it didn't conform to classical prejudices which bordered on religious fanaticism. So they became the saviours of 'civilisation' by defining juist what and was not 'civilised'.The rest is, as they say, history. Go fuck yourself with Orientalist dildo.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 05:16 | 2927121 Random
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The money paid to Egypt is in fact money paid to Israel (indirectly though), for two reasons (at least till the "Arab spring"): on one hand, a kind of protection fee (lesser of the two intents) and on the other hand to prop the pro-zionist Egyptian regime (hence the Israel cries when Mubarak got ousted). After the Arab spring only the first reason remains valid, but still in Israel's favor (to seal the border with Gaza, else Israel blockade is pointless).

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 03:07 | 2927077 Vigilante
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They don't hate us because we bomb them..

They hate us because the Koran tells them to...

Islam has been at war with us for the last 1300 years..

 

 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 05:39 | 2927131 Zwelgje
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wow, hook, line and sinker.

do you feel more alive when you have enemies?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:18 | 2926534 hunglow
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KC-135 w updated engines.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 00:26 | 2926915 Cosmicserpent
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Yes they have a handful of tankers.  I recall reading that they also have only about 25 F15-I's that can carry the heavy bombs needed to destroy underground bunkers that house Iranian nuclear facilities.

Bombing Sudan, which has no air defenses, would be relatively easy for Israel.  Iran would be several orders of magnitude more difficult.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:50 | 2927002 13thWarrior
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Israel will be the ruling state after taking over Middle East same way UK passed the baton to US after WW2, US will pass the baton after WW3 to Israel. These are just sign of things to come.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXOSWv1wF5E

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 02:43 | 2927057 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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It's the new normal, bombing another nation no longer constitutes an act of war. Hell we do it all the time...we're currently bombing 6 (known) nations right now with no declaration of war.

Though it is amazing that NO media have picked this one up.

Just wait until the other side gets drones. They can start "pre-crime" bombing of people they don't like in places like Tampa, Portland, NYC, and the US won't be able to say a thing about it: we set the precedent.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 04:03 | 2927100 13thWarrior
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Drones, pre-emptive strikes, arab-springs, false flags, propaganda are just tools.

If you want to know bigger picture, US will make way to Israel as a ruling state. One doesn't have to believe it, but just keep the theory for future reference.

 

Here is Arab spring explained in 2003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nR7-Cmszpo

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 21:35 | 2933364 mkkby
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If the drones are parked with closed fuel lines and ignition systems, obviousy someone realizes unauthorized start up is possible.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:13 | 2926122 mayavision2012
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Time: World: "

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak refused to comment on Channel 2 News, saying, 'I have nothing I can say about the matter.'”

That says it all.

 

http://world.time.com/2012/10/25/did-israel-bomb-a-sudanese-ammunition-d...

 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:54 | 2926865 Lore
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"The anti-Iranian operation kicked off two years ago when Mossad agents murdered a Palestinian businessman and a HAMAS highflyer, Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh, in a Dubai hotel suit, retrieving a suitcase with a military agreement between Iran and Sudan, wherein Khartoum offered Tehran its military sites to make weapons."

This smells like another Quasi-Mohammed -- BS, in other words.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:01 | 2926956 caconhma
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"a military agreement between Iran and Sudan, wherein Khartoum offered Tehran its military sites to make weapons."

 

Give me a fucking break. Why in world does Iran need Sudan to make their ballistic missiles? Why did not Iranians go to Somalia to design and manufacturing their future nukes?

 

One thing is for sure: for NATO countries and Israel, wars of aggression became absolutely necessary means to sustain their geopolitical existence.

 

However, there are very few "no shot back" countries left. Major direct economic and military confrontation with China and its allies will take place in a very near future.

 

One thing more, poorly going wars of aggression bring major civil unrests and even revolutions in home-countries. Very shortly, there will be a major split, dissent, and infighting among the American ruling elite.  In other words, political instability comes to America followed by a major depression and civil unrest.

 

Just wait and see how Israel population will enjoy seeing their own cities and town looking like Arab countries they terrorised for so many years.

 

 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:40 | 2926457 Stock Tips Inve...
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Eventually an international crisis broke out over the issue of Iran. This country will continue with its nuclear program. Chances are that international pressure will not have big effects. As mentioned in this post, we must include Iran in the long list of critical issues for the global economy.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:48 | 2926064 alstry
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AS TECHNOLOGY REPLACES THE NEED FOR HUMAN LABOR...

The Industrialists have no more need for humans.....

The war of the ages:  Industrialization Vs. Technological Functioning

Every SYSTEMIC CHANGE in history has been ushered in with violence:

Monarchy to Democracy....Slavery To Freedom......Agriculture to Industrial

This will simply be the biggest change in human history as the Wall Street Wimps become worthless in the http://www.udderworld.com

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:01 | 2926096 Neethgie
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Dude why is your site called udderworld, areyou some kind of cow fetishist?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:09 | 2926114 jonjon831983
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Maybe he is...

"The $210,000 Cow-Milking Robot"

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-05/the-210-000-cow-milking-...

 

Maybe he is right... with technology we are irrelevant. The machines are against us, but they are slaves to the cows.  Ever think about that?  Maybe we should stop with the cow tipping.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:11 | 2926119 alstry
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When life is simply a game we all milk, you know its an Udder World

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:33 | 2926165 dognamedabu
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Ha ha the loser ups his own post. How pathetic.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:05 | 2926231 ZeroAvatar
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And you're hoping ZH readers are 'stupid' enough to click over to your site so you can 'milk' them?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:14 | 2926255 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

When life is simply a game we all milk, you know its an Udder World

Hmmmm, your county agent wouldn't happen to be an oriental guy that speaks english with a french accent, would it? A guy that talks about farming the weak and extorting the poor and is known to drop trou and take a dump on the roadside?

If so, you'd be better off with Hank Kimball.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:41 | 2926334 takinthehighway
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+1 for the "Green Acres" reference.

Could Oliver Douglas be considered an early prepper?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:28 | 2926430 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Send twenty pickers to the Ofer place."

</Kimball>

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:23 | 2926144 The Gooch
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And he's got a milk moustache.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:11 | 2926390 disabledvet
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thank God...the Borg are our friends this time.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:05 | 2926102 ACP
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Shh. Don't bother the MSM. They're campaigning.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:17 | 2926125 Randall Cabot
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Oct 27, 2012

"In an unusual move, the Navy has replaced an admiral commanding an aircraft carrier strike group while it is deployed to the Middle East. The replacement was prompted by an Inspector General’s investigation of allegations of inappropriate leadership judgment."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group-because-of-ongoing-investigation/

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:24 | 2926148 bank guy in Brussels
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For a more wild-ass version of that same story ... saying that the Admiral was fired because of involvement in a potential US military coup against Obama ...

Well, we can only 'hope' for a coup in America against their whole anti-Constitutional government ...

Article is on an offbeat Irish website, to be read sceptically ... but often very entertaining:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1621.htm

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:36 | 2926171 nmewn
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More than likely, "he was called home" because of port visits in Thailand and Malaysia.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:49 | 2926197 CrockettAlmanac.com
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A Navy official familiar with the circumstances of the investigation said it involved allegations of “inappropriate leadership judgment” and stressed it was not related to personal conduct. -- ABC

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:58 | 2926215 nmewn
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Thats what it looks like to me...a port of call incident(s).

If he was reckless in positioning the fleet for a port of call, thats another issue. We don't know what "ïnappropriate leadership judgement" means at this point.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:16 | 2926402 john39
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maybe he objected to an illegal attack on Iran.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:07 | 2926751 TBT or not TBT
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There's no such thing as a single international law to provide a context under which to call any action against Iran, or any country, "illegal."    There's just force.   Unless you mean illegal under U.S. law.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:16 | 2926777 john39
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perhaps you missed the neuremburg trials? when this is all done, i look forward to watching the crininals hang.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:39 | 2926178 Pampalona
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They took him out when he refused to be false flagged...

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:29 | 2926305 Coast Watcher
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Oh for cryng out loud -- it's a Sorcha Faal fantasy. Are you aware that "Sorcha Faal" is really a New Hampshire computer programmer named David Booth who makes this stuff up out of whole cloth?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:17 | 2926404 disabledvet
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while it is true that President Obama is the first...you know, "dude"...as President...and Hillarity will the first, well..."dudette" i guess is the word...we've actually never had an Admiral as President either. I must say if true he is taking an interesting an novel approach to attain the highest office in the land. a "seizure" as it were. i'm sure it would be temporary..."keeping the seat warm" as it were for..."one of those elected..." what's the word i'm looking for...hmmm...uhhh, uhhh..."guys or gals" of course! "well golly gosh, gee willikers! Horton hear's a coup eh?"

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:19 | 2926130 bank guy in Brussels
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Actually this was well-covered on Al Jazeera news several days ago, and I have posted the link on ZeroHedge comment sections several times ...

Al Jazeera is not 'nobody', they are one of the leading news services of the world (tho corrupted recently by the political agenda of Gulf States re the events in Syria, they are based in Qatar ... but who isn't under some influence

For international news one has to look beyond CNN and BBC and Reuters and Bloomberg ...

Every day ZeroHedge should glance at RT - Russia Today, Al Jazeera, and Asia Times Online (weekdays) ... the front page of Al Jazeera is very nicely done, too

Here is the article which I linked on ZH several days ago:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/20121024142531802810.html

Interesting perspective on war expanding from Sudan from a wild, often-scorned Irish website ... suggesting the new war in the Middle East will be Egypt on the territory of Libya, Sudan, Ethiopia ...

The Egypt-Libya war idea is especially intriguing, as Libya is half-sunk in chaos after the Nato 'humanitarian bombing' that killed tens of thousands

Egypt is starving with tens of millions of people, and no money or oil ... next-door Libya has very few people, lots of oil to sell ... and Egypt and Libya were united before in the 'United Arab Republic'

Egypt trying to take over Libya to feed its starving people using the oil revenue money, does make sense

The offbeat 'conspiracy site' article, 'Egypt Prepares for Total War After Israeli Air Strike on Sudan' ...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1619.htm

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:56 | 2926205 Jack Burton
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Nice post Bank Guy. I agree totally. RT and Al Jazeera offer news that is well worth checking out. I too read of the bombing raid the moring after it took place on an Israeli website. The entire operation was covered and most of it proved to be true.

CNN and the BBC are now such total tools of the west's neocon elite rulers in Washington and London that they hardly merit attention, other than to hear what the neocon take is on the world news.

The BBC especially has now taken to open lies and fabrications to try and induce the UK population to support the American war agenda!

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:10 | 2926239 Bugman82
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So does having Al-Jazeera or Russian Today as our home page result in us being placed on the terrorist watch list?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:24 | 2926279 Jack Burton
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SImple answer? YES! You can bet that the giant data centers of teh NSA track every person who clicks on these websites. NSA take billions of our tax dollars and uses them to track our every move and to put us on the elite's enemies list. When America's 1% use their police state, they will make hitler look like a pussy.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:18 | 2926407 john39
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i read presstv from iran every day too...  i have my own suite at camp fema all picked out.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:13 | 2926525 Real Estate Geek
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Get a VPN and "just say no" to their monitoring.  Here's a site reviewing some options. http://www.vpnreviews.com/

 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:27 | 2926294 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

So does having Al-Jazeera or Russian Today as our home page result in us being placed on the terrorist watch list?

No, that was done when you first posted on Zero Hedge.

Welcome to the club. One of the unadvertised perks is that we all have a spot waiting for us in a tropical island paradise, more commonly known as the Guantanamo Bay Retirement Villa.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:22 | 2926413 disabledvet
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I've been to Gitmo. They have AMAZING lizards. ... Seriously. "Big honkin' lizards in Gitmo." Usually with no tails tho. Apparently they had a run in with the guards long before any of us did...

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 23:20 | 2926787 StychoKiller
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Hmm, "the village!"  Say hello to #6 for everyone.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 06:06 | 2927145 Zwelgje
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Retirement villa? More like Retirement Cage.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:38 | 2926323 Bear
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Thanks ... all the more reason to vote Obama out of office. I think he would be be really conflicted with a war between his two best friends in the region.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:23 | 2926273 mr66
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I think that is excellent action by Israel.  This stuff should be blown up all over that area so they NEVER even think about messing with us again!

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:26 | 2926291 Jack Burton
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Who is "US"?  Israel and it's puppet government in Washington?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:59 | 2927014 Pink Floyd
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Come on. 

Either you are a nutcase conspiracist, or driving an anti-Israel agenda.

 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 20:09 | 2929580 SWIFT 760
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Kikebot...SSDD. Anti Israel is for sure. Cut the cord to Zionist lunatic fascist regime. 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:53 | 2926357 Cortez the Killer
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how about some props for those skilled pilots that carried out the raid.

next stop mullah city

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:21 | 2926410 john39
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with each additional bad act, the world wakes up to the appalling criime syndicate posing as a country that is israel.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:53 | 2926723 Cortez the Killer
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sucks to feel so helpless, doesnt it john?

Amazing isnt it, that the Israelis have kept a bright guy like you from being successful.

who'd a thunk it

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 02:21 | 2927027 Oh regional Indian
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Trooooolllloooooooo....

F'n troll.

 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 20:13 | 2929594 SWIFT 760
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Sucks for israel as their impending pariahness unfolds. Israel stands for nothing good. Its simply a military outpost from North to South with the population penned in like swine. 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:13 | 2926966 RichardP
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... with each additional bad act, the world wakes up ...

That may be.  But the bombing of the Sudanese weapons factory was a good thing - not a bad thing.  Had the weapons been delivered to Gaza (the supposed delivery point) and fired into Israel, there would have been retaliation from Israel and innocents in Gaza might have been killed inadvertantly.  This raid prevented all of that.

Notice that whoever bombed the factory was able to do so without attacking Sudan, without starting a war with Sudan.  This reality should inform future comments vis-a-vis Israel and Iran.  But I'm sure they won't.

And I find it interesting that, so far in these comments, nothing has been said about the thing that has caused the most consternation - as reported by other news outlets: the fact that the local radar stopped working shortly before the bombs fell.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:42 | 2926696 ToNYC
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ONE-WAY glasses says all attacks are presumed self-defense retaliations for well-perceived and palpably-felt definite intentions to do harm at some time so close you can feel it.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:53 | 2927009 Pink Floyd
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At this point there is only little circumstancial evidence linking Israel to this event.

 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:41 | 2926043 the 300000000th...
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I wonder where the red line is now on Bibi's bomb?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:49 | 2926066 UP Forester
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30,000 feet over Tehran and dropping?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:42 | 2926048 meizu
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They suffered during the holocaust, so they earned the right to bomb primitive africans.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:07 | 2926107 Absalon
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The rockets being fired at Israel are coming from somewhere.  The (former) plant in Sudan seems a good candidate.  If the Iranian Revolutionary Guards did in fact build and operate the plant to supply Hamas with rockets to fire at Israel then Israel was within its rights.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:58 | 2926217 Jack Burton
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Yes, but the rockets are landing on land that Hamas was kicked out of. Long before the European Jews arrived, this land had a native population. One could argue they are rocketing their own land.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:25 | 2926276 Yes We Can. But...
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Is there any doubt that all inhabitable territory on this planet has been repeatedly pilfered from various prior bi-pedal 'owners'.  Its how our species rolls.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:25 | 2926284 zen0
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That's not true, Jack.

 

 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:57 | 2926492 zen0
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What.......you don't like my Obamoid debating style?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 20:16 | 2929607 SWIFT 760
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Nope, you're wrong. Israel has NO rights to murder innocent civilians as with any other "democratic" country. 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:08 | 2926112 SWIFT 760
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Perhaps, one day, Israel will be obliterated from the map and rid the world of this lunatic, insane and ignorant kikenvermin 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:28 | 2926297 zen0
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Israel will still be there long after you have become worm food, or whatever it is you aspire to upon your expiration.

My condolences.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:23 | 2926417 john39
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doubt it.  evil eats itself eventually.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:59 | 2926494 zen0
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Lets see, six votes for reality, 10 for fantasy. Does not speak well for the general readership of this site.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 06:15 | 2927151 Zwelgje
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I bet you look at your shit before you flush.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 20:18 | 2929612 SWIFT 760
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You dont have the power to feel condolence. 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 02:04 | 2927020 Pink Floyd
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SWIFT 760, we are in our rights to be critical of any country, be it Ukarine or any other.

But, your comment suggest you are a biggot and antisemite.

This discredits your attempt to criticize.

 

Regardless, there is way too much fuss here when Israel's involvement is not clear at all.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 20:00 | 2929552 SWIFT 760
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There is no other country other than Israel who would benefit from such an attack. Its so blatently obvious. How long was it before Israel owned up to attacking USS Liberty? No proof, yea right. 

 

Antisemitism is for Semites. Euro Jewshit transplants to Arab lands don't qualify. Perhaps if I were Muslim bashing, that would be Antisemitic. 

Take your pro Zionist agenda elsewhere, fucking chicken swinger. Go serve your Israeli agenda in Israel ya god damn traitor to the USA. 

True American Patriots know Israel is not a US ally. 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:29 | 2926053 JustObserving
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Laws and borders are for chumps.  Watch the Western media rush to legitimize this attack.

Sudan was a threat to the existence of Israel in a parallel universe.

Everyday we create a more perfect dystopia on this beautiful planet.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:23 | 2926260 Being Free
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Hey, you want to pass that or are you going to bogart it?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:45 | 2926054 Debeachesand Je...
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Has that e-mail reached the Situation Room in the White House yet?

That's Israel's October Surprise to Iran via Sudan.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:55 | 2926080 Bear
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'The Situation Room (TSR)" in the White House is just like Vegas ... Whatever happens in the TSR stays in the TSR

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:59 | 2926089 knukles
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Except doctored photos

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:29 | 2926301 Bear
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They tried Photoshop with the Birth Certificate ... that worked out pretty well for them (just see snopes.com)

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:04 | 2926101 Body of Lies
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The BOP Squad ... (Biden, Obama, Panetta ... 9/11 meeting at 5:30 PM)

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:17 | 2926126 knukles
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Today? Timely.....

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:38 | 2926176 UP Forester
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C'mon, they're just meeting to pre-authorize opening FEMA camps for all the hurricane refugees.

Move along, nothing to see here....

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:57 | 2926211 BurningFuld
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Didn't Clinton bomb an Aspirin factory there once? Was that practice or Lewinsky? I forget now.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:12 | 2926246 Body of Lies
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Timely ... No, but it's taken 47 days for us to actually find out that a meeting took place and that the President was watching in real time and that the CIA agents asked three times to engage those who were attacking them and thrice denied. We have heard 47 days of lies from the President and his surrogates.

Timely ... Yes, with an election in nine days will we select as our Commander and Chief one who acts thusly?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:09 | 2926237 monkeyboy
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Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:45 | 2926057 q99x2
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And don't forget the big one where California falls into the ocean. I've got my helium balloon ready. Hope the wind is blowing onshore that day.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:48 | 2926062 terryfuckwit
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USA commander in chief benji yeti yahoo at it again. International bully beef .....

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:51 | 2926068 Seasmoke
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Fuck Israel

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 18:55 | 2926079 Placerville
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We'll see how many Zionists are here on ZH with that comment!

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:00 | 2926092 MsCreant
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You don't have to be a zionist to be concerned about overgeneralizing. No junks from me however.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:38 | 2926175 dognamedabu
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Good call. Im sure more than a few Zionist can't stand their leaders, Obama, Romney and that other guy who sucks at drawing bombs.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:41 | 2926183 nmewn
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Yeah, looks like the Sudan government was really concerned about civilians when they placed/allowed a missle factory next to...ya know, civilian homes.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:58 | 2926212 CrockettAlmanac.com
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There are military installations throughout Israel. So if another nation blew some of them up and took a few civilians along as collateral damage you would blame that on the Israeli government, correct?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:08 | 2926234 nmewn
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Are you comparing the available land mass of Israel to that of Sudan?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:29 | 2926302 CrockettAlmanac.com
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That really has nothing to do with it. Civilian and military installations are intermingled throughout the world. Defense industries (to use the American euphemism) need a civilian labor force. It's not as if Sudan was uniquely blameworthy in this situation.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:40 | 2926330 nmewn
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You're interposing western values of life and property on the Sudan, it doesn't work that way.

I can assure you, the Sudanese government cares not one wit about civilian casualties or human life in general.

http://newperspectives85.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/sudan-civil-war-and-genocide-disappearing-christians-of-the-middle-east/

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:13 | 2926392 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I can assure you that the US government cares nothing about the lives of US civilians. Otherwise you wouldn't see stories like this:

 

The Army Sprayed St. Louis With Toxic Aerosol During A Just Revealed 1950s Test
Jim Salter, Associated Press    | Oct. 4, 2012, 12:34 PM

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/army-sprayed-st-louis-with-toxic-dust-201...

 

That's western values, for ya.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:22 | 2926415 nmewn
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Those are government values Crockett...not mine or yours. Pretty sure I said Sudans government.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:29 | 2926433 CrockettAlmanac.com
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So you agree that the Sudanese are not unique in having a government which has no concern for the lives of it's citizens and that the US is at least the equal of the Sudanese in that regard?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:26 | 2926980 RichardP
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It is a fact that the U.S. has experimented on its citizens in the past.  Agreeing that this is true in no way says a thing about whether the U.S. and Sudan governments are equally negligent towards their citizenry.  Two separate issues.  Agreeing with the first point does not automatically mean agreeing with the second point.  Crockett, you know that - so I can only assume you are trying to be slick here.  Don't.  It doesn't become you.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 02:02 | 2927003 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Sudan's supposed negligence involved the proximity of civilians to a munitions plant which was bombed by Israel. In the case I cited above it has recently been revealed that the US Army purposely sprayed carcinogenic chemicals on American civilians in their own homes without their knowledge as an experiment. Does that help you decide which act is the more evil?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 03:34 | 2927088 RichardP
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Crockett, you know you are not comparing like with like.  A correct comparison would be your example of U.S. atrocities with the information contained in nmewn's link given above.  The information in that link was the point being discussed.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 12:10 | 2927758 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Just admit that you favor Israel over America and be done with it. Netanyahoo 2012.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 12:55 | 2928205 RichardP
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My points are about being logically consistent.  They have nothing to do with who favors what.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 13:27 | 2928312 CrockettAlmanac.com
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As if a conversation could be logical and yet devoid of substance. Is there a reason why you will not plainly state what you favor and what you don't?

 

How do you feel about this?

 

Justice for Jonathan Pollard 

The official Website authorized by
Jonathan & Esther Pollard

 

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/

 

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:24 | 2926281 cifo
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Actually 2km away.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:07 | 2926381 nmewn
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Anythings possible...for instance, placing an AA battery behind a school works equally well with these types. Not saying thats what it was or that they even hit it purposely...could have been shrapnel from the munitions inside the missile factory going off too.

Lets not lose sight of the fact, it was a missile factory...in Sudan. Who gets their missiles from Sudan? I don't think we do...or Russia or China or...well, you get my point.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 06:37 | 2927159 Random
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Those dastardly Sudanese daring to place a munitions factory as they please, not being at war with someone notwhistanding...Their audacity is staggering and obviously they had it coming…

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 21:54 | 2933404 mkkby
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Mnewn - Usually your comments are a lot better. I see an awful lot of military assets right within US urban areas.

I didn't junk you, but you deserve a few.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:04 | 2935364 Precious
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It this you mkkby?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:56 | 2926208 Peter Pan
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Dear Seasmoke,

No nation deserves to be fucked. Perhaps some leaders but not the nations. I am neither a Zionist nor a Muslim, but I do feel that problem lies predominantly with the leadership in every dispute. People everywhere just have the same basic needs which enable dignified survival.

"Fuck Israel" or "Fuck Iran" is just shorthand for saying "peace is too hard and not worth it."

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 19:59 | 2926219 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The problem is that Israel refuses to be a partner in peace with those whom they have long victimized.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 20:20 | 2926264 nmewn
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Oh horseshit, partner with who?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 21:35 | 2926439 CrockettAlmanac.com
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That's the Israeli line: We have no partner for peace. What it really means is that as long as the US subsidizes the destruction of Israel's enemies then they have no intention or inclination to engage in a peaceful dialog with anyone. And that includes the US. You don't think they've recalled the operatives who have provided Israel with US intelligence for decades, do you? Why not stand with America for once instead of with the foreign dog that bites the hand that so unwisely feeds it?

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:02 | 2926502 nmewn
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Did or did not...the Fatah and Hamas movements go to war with each other as soon as Gaza was given autonomy to govern themselves, that is, Palestinians?

Next I will be accussed by the rabid jooo haters around here of being a Jew or a zionist at the least no doubt...but the facts do speak for themselves.

To me, for a host of reasons, the Palestinians are treated by the arabs/muslims just as the Jews are treated by supposed christians and fascists...proxies for never ending strife...a dagger at the throat.

There is a reason Jordan kicked Palestinians out, don't you think?

Its a spider web of bullshit Crockett...later.

Sun, 10/28/2012 - 22:12 | 2926522 CrockettAlmanac.com
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So you side with Israel against Palestine because Fatah had a dust up with Hamas and despite the fact that Israel has killed more westerners than the Palestinians have and has sold US military secrets to both the Russians and the Chinese?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 01:41 | 2926991 RichardP
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So you side with Israel against Palestine ...

Crockett - knock it off.  You have been insisting too often recently that, because someone agrees with "A", that means they automatically agree with "B".  You know logic does not work that way, and you are demeaning yourself when you do this.  You are better than that.

No one has to take Israel's side in order to see the factions fighting each other in Gaza.  Calling a spade a spade does not automatically mean that someone is taking Israel's side.  It is simply calling a spade a spade.

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