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670,000 Without Power, ConEd Says Repairs Could Take A Week - Interactive Status Map

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The good news is that no workers are trapped. The bad news is that between the 14th Street transformer explosion and the flooding and damage elsewhere, there are 670,000 people without power and over 230,000 of them are in Manhattan.

  • *CON ED SAYS UNDERGROUND SUBSTATIONS COULD BE UP IN 3 TO 4 DAYS
  • *CON ED SAYS IT WILL TAKE LONGER TO REPAIR ABOVE GROUND STATIONS
  • *CON ED SAYS IT COULD BE UP TO A WEEK FOR POWER RESTORATION
  • *LARGEST STORM RELATED OUTAGE IN CON ED HISTORY, MIKSAD SAYS

 

Full list of current outages in New York City (hardest hit are Cooper Square, Canal, Jamaica, Chelsea, and Borough Hill):

 

and interactive map (click image for interactive map)...

 

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Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:55 | 2930367 lineskis
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Good luck to all those holding ED.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:57 | 2930369 flacon
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NYSE to Test New Contingency Plan Tuesday

http://ransquawk.com/headlines/250372

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:10 | 2930407 ZerOhead
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Any word yet on the Feds 'gold' reserves?

When they go to dry the tungsten it's best if they do it at low heat to avoid any tungsten chloride "rust" from exposure to the chlorine in the seawater...

http://www.webelements.com/tungsten/chemistry.html

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:22 | 2930450 CIABS
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How are things over at 200 West Street?  I walked by recently but didn't see any signs to indicate who's in there...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:28 | 2930463 ACP
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What is this I'm hearing on CNBC, a Nassau County Exec saying not even boiling water will make it safe?

I can just imagine all the poopage floating around all over.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:30 | 2930468 knukles
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I'm gettin' a real bad feelin' about all this....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:34 | 2930477 ACP
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No worries, doesn't U-238 "go away" when you boil your water?

Or is this the reason for the Zombie drill in CA? Radioactive dog/people/pigeon poop all mixed together with microorganisms and various radioactive material and infecting humans?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:38 | 2930484 Ahmeexnal
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Sandy has also taken down numerous servers.  Data is being lost at alarming rates.

Expect evidence against JPig and other banksters to be conveniently wiped out by Sandy.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:58 | 2930494 ZerOhead
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Check this video out.

4 minutes of exploding transformers all across Manhatten.

That's 4 minutes of explosive flashes going off that will remind you off shock and awe 'Baghdad Style".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elr1CKzi-pU

Big big big problem. Good luck Con Ed!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:46 | 2930570 Ahmeexnal
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Those explosions seem timed. They were engineered to blow up. Anyone in NYC and its surroundings who has not escaped the place will be very, very sorry in the days to come.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:43 | 2930610 economics9698
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The looters are getting ready for the rain to stop. Good luck. 22 LR are quite, the more noise you make the more you draw attention to your location.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:13 | 2930762 Cheesy Bastard
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No one is getting out to the suburbs, either.  There are trees down every half mile across Connecticut from what I can tell.  Being prepared is key, though.  Gotta go tend to the generator and a million other things.  Will double check the 25 round magazines just in case....TTYL.  God bless all!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:35 | 2930789 GetZeeGold
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Hang tough Amigo.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 08:47 | 2930924 Stackers
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Psst, Wussies. Try going without power for 12 days in the Texas summer when Ike rolled through the center of Houston

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:59 | 2930580 bunnyswanson
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-live-updates-2/

 

Thanks for link.  ABC is giving updates as time passes.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:46 | 2930497 CrazyCooter
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My sister went to King's Point (as did her husband). What my Dad told me tonight is that she said NYC basically dumps raw sewage out in the Atlantic. They have been extending the dump pipes for years. He said it was 200 miles out or something crazy like that. Apparently only "in recent years" did they start treatment facilities and such. Anyway, she said that as you sailed into NY, you could see the ocean change colors.

If you boil shit, you have shit soup; still no good to drink. Thus, the comment about boiling water upthread.

Anecdotal and for what its worth.

Regards,

Cooter

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:56 | 2930510 PKF
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So there is something to be said about 'Eat Shit & Die,' right? 

May the Greedy enjoy a feast!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:10 | 2930533 Vince Clortho
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Note to self:  8 million people living in the same spot for generations may create a few issues.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:30 | 2930561 hunglow
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Fish away!  Torpedo away.  Now, now, drop.  Das Boot.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:52 | 2930505 Freddie
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I thought the Slurpees and Big Gulps would kill us.    This country is filled with real idiots.  We build these huge cities next to major rivers and the ocean and we expect that things like this do not happen. New Orleans is total insanity.

It is easier to make up global warming fantasies to cheat people than to use common sense and not build right next to rivers.  The Dutch can do it but the subhumans in this country have no clue. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:57 | 2930511 ACP
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That's it! River-dwelling poop zombies!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:35 | 2930479 Deflating in Denver
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I have a sister in Howard Beach, Queens. Basement flooded up to the rafters, and both cars under water.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:46 | 2930803 GetZeeGold
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No sure why womeone would have junked that report...but...whatever.

 

Prayers for your sister.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 08:14 | 2930841 XitSam
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It wasn't me but perhaps it was the use of rafter instead of floor joist.

Rafter noun 1. any of a series of timbers or the like, usually having a pronounced slope, for supporting the sheathing and covering of a roof.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:42 | 2930490 monkeyboy
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Hmm, not sure if bullish?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 12:27 | 2930516 SafelyGraze
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now is the time to introduce that geo-engineering legislation we've been waiting for

come on, Subcommittee on Energy and Environment -- let's get to work

you'll especially like the testimony of p rasch

I think it is critical to distinguish between “small scale field studies” where we might introduce some particles into the atmosphere over such a small scale that they would have negligible climate impact, and “full scale deployment” where we expect to actually have a climate impact. Field studies might try to induce a deliberate change to some feature of the earth system at a level with a negligible impact on the climate, but the change would allow us to detect a response in a component important to climate.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:57 | 2930373 lineskis
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On the futile side of things that is...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:58 | 2930376 AU5K
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Storm-ageddon shuts down large parts of NYC.

 

Baby-geddon predicted for hospitals next July.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 08:33 | 2930884 nonclaim
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Even the malthusians will have a few, no doubt.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:11 | 2930384 Eireann go Brach
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Obama just called Bernanke and asked if he can print money with candles!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:01 | 2930750 nmewn
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:14 | 2930432 CrockettAlmanac.com
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If you've got ED there's not much to hold.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:06 | 2930629 Cast Iron Skillet
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looks like they need a bailout.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:43 | 2930655 Grill Boss
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ED, wil be fine, once they start selling information to the banks to be packaged into derivatives (don't tell me you didn't know that's the reason for the smart grid)

and maybe you didn't know all those cell tower pulses (and all the rest of them) will be harvested and sold back as power? Utilities are a safe bet:

http://socialmediabar.com/smart-meters-energy-harvesting-data-sales-gold...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:55 | 2930368 ZerOhead
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Hmmm... a week without power.

What could possibly go wrong? Right?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:02 | 2930392 Goatboy
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Reserves of hollow point ammunition are sufficient. Nothing can go wrong.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 08:11 | 2930838 GetZeeGold
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Down to their last 400 million .40 rounds....hope they have some .357 rounds in reserve.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:13 | 2930427 knukles
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Leading indicator:

State of shelves with Doritos, Hostress HoHos, Mad Dog 20/20, malt liquor and Kools in the South Bronx.

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:26 | 2930443 ZerOhead
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Those emptying shelves will be like a doomsday clock... tick-tick-tocking down to bloody revolution.

Won't help none that TV's and other amusing electronic devices will be out as well...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:29 | 2930460 knukles
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Ever so bloody right on that, mate.
Do you realize that during the Arab Springs, it was when the social medias were turned off that the people, no longer able to sit at home and commiserate about the nasty state of the world, took to the street to engage with their peers and Viol-i-fuckin-a what happens?

A whole bunch of angry fuckers gettin' angrier by the moment, decidin' to do sumptin' 'bout it!

 

I'm a gettin' a real bad feelin' about this all of a sudden....
What with the elections and all....

Real bad images (not of sugar plumbs) dancin' about in my head...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:41 | 2930471 ZerOhead
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Reading my mind.

If things start to get ugly the temperature under Obama's ass will likely cause a fusion (over) reaction. No telling what is about to happen but Romney who will smell the electoral blood in the water is unlikely to make things better.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:42 | 2930489 walküre
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state of emergency, curfews, martial law

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:04 | 2930519 ZerOhead
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I know... I know... and we should all be very concerned about what those bastards will come up with NEXT!!!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:56 | 2930622 Awakened Sheeple
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Damn ZHers beat me to the popcorn aisle and I'm about to lose my shit.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:57 | 2930372 Flakmeister
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No problem...

We were told to evacuate to Citifield near the appropriately named Flushing Meadow...

Tyler, any word on LGA and JFK???

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:12 | 2930424 StychoKiller
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Pontoon planes only...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:07 | 2930375 Mine Is Bigger
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Baby boom ahead!!! Go long on disposable diaper makers?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:28 | 2930558 TwoShortPlanks
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Biggest demand during 1st week of floods:

1. Nappies (that's Diapers for you Yanks)
2. Tooth Brushes & Tooth Paste
3. Bottled water
4. Showers

People usually always have about a week of food in the kitchen.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 11:39 | 2931528 Midas
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Us Yanks, (thats americans for you inside of the US) aren't allowed to use the word nappy.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:59 | 2930378 Jim in MN
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Yuck.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 23:59 | 2930383 SgtSchultz
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How soon until the first reports of looting?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:02 | 2930390 ZerOhead
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About as much time as it takes for the cops to arrive at the scene of the loot.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:07 | 2930404 cynicalskeptic
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what's left to loot?  not much in grocery stores... no generators left anywhere......

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:23 | 2930644 Matt
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In Manhattan? Think jewelry, expensive clothes, art. Looting is not about taking what you need; in poorer areas, you see people taking flat screen TVs.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:17 | 2930441 freedogger
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First reports? ZeroHedge has covered the looting on Wall Street since January 2009. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:59 | 2930514 Freddie
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God - I hope Benie Madoff does not drown in prison or his CPA.  Hopefully Corzine will drown in some sewage filled street.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:01 | 2930624 A Nanny Moose
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Where have you been since 1913?

Isn't NYC a GFZ (Gun Free/Controlled Zone)? Looting could never happen in a such a place. /sarc.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:02 | 2930389 TahoeBilly2012
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U'd almost think the Durden's were (once) New Yorker's...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:15 | 2930436 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Bet they're glad they moved to Hooterville.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:15 | 2930437 knukles
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When I read that I first thought it said the Dudesons
Such a highly educated refined normalcy bias.
Damned good thing I'm responsible for Perceptions Management

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:20 | 2930447 dark pools of soros
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the majority of their reader base is though

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:03 | 2930396 RafterManFMJ
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THIS JUST IN!! America's productive class left without political power for  decades! Could be without power for 2 - 3 decades more, as their numbers continue to attrit! 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 13:08 | 2931852 dark pools of soros
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hey did we get the SOP for this shit before we laid them all off??

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:07 | 2930397 zebrasquid
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Obama is going to suspend the election. Can't win with so many 'Yawkers out of commission...not to mention NJ, Conn, and the rest of NE.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:54 | 2930620 cranky-old-geezer
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You may be right.  Sandy went right thru his biggest support base up the east coast?  A week without power, maybe longer, lot's of his supporters won't be able to get out and vote?  Yea, he might try to postpone it.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 05:41 | 2930704 lakecity55
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Long rope and pitchforks!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 09:10 | 2930987 earnyermoney
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I'm sure whomever votes in the NE will overwhelmingly support Barry. Numbers may be lower because of the storm but the end result will be deep blue.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 09:11 | 2930993 SilverRhino
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Oddly enough that would seal his fate.  Even in the middle of a civil war we had elections.  

The headline might look like this .... Obama suspends elections.  Secret Service buried under 10,000fold increase in threats. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:05 | 2930398 andyupnorth
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In big cities, loss of electricity results in chaos in a very short period of time.  When backup generators are depleted, there's suddenly no clear drinking water, no way to fuel up your car, food begins to rot in your fridge, etc.

It's a pity that New Yorkers always have to be the Guiney pigs for these social experiments...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:17 | 2930439 knukles
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Ah, give it a day or two... before there's full scale rioting.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:30 | 2930466 BeaverFever
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Dirty water? Rotting food? In NY???

Heck I thought it always smelled like that...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:34 | 2930476 ForTheWorld
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My Dinner with Andre holds the answer to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLIlLzIh2Q&t=159

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:02 | 2930520 PKF
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From the numbers, it appears that only 230,000 in Manhatten are w/o electricity....that's nothing.

Can't you count.....when you get to 21, unzip....OK?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:08 | 2930409 q99x2
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Quantitative Contingency Easing

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:09 | 2930412 Jim in MN
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My favorite press conference quote from a utility exec came today from ConEd: 

"We will not be OK." 

And the guy was right. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:20 | 2930444 knukles
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He's been watching too much Pulp Fiction

 

 

Butch: You okay?
Marsellus: Naw man. I'm pretty fuckin' far from okay.
Butch: What now?
Marsellus: What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' niggers, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass.
Butch: I meant what now between me and you?
Marsellus: Oh, that what now. I tell you what now between me and you. There is no me and you. Not no more.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:11 | 2930636 A Nanny Moose
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Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:10 | 2930414 Bansters-in-my-...
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Who knew aresol geoengineering could be so likeable.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:20 | 2930448 knukles
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:)

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:11 | 2930418 GeorgeHayduke
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This could turn into an ugly doomer scenario if tensions and tempers start flaring. I wonder if preppers will be ridiculed as much after this storm as they had been before it?

Sometimes it's good to live in the so-called flyover part of the country. I prefer it here. Fewer people.

Good luck to those who live in the path of the storm. I wish you the best with coping and recovering.

You also have to wonder how it will affect the election. Lots to ponder....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:27 | 2930457 Incubus
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Been to new york city.  nice place to visit, wouldn't want to live there.

I prefer having the option of being self-sufficient if I need to be. Plenty of land here for growing. Plenty of rain & sun, too.

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:07 | 2930525 Freddie
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NYC is not even nice to visit.  The city is crap and expensive. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:46 | 2930569 cbxer55
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Damn right about that. Last time I was in NYC was in 75 for a class trip. I was in the eighth grade. ;-)

Be a cold day in Hades before I step foot in that rat-infested jungle again.

I'm stayin in Flyover Country.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:17 | 2930642 Lednbrass
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If a storm washed the entire city out to sea much of the rest of the country would consider it a good thing. Its a complete shithole whose only real production is millions of useless assholes.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:12 | 2930423 ebworthen
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Too late to buy some Honda and Briggs and Stratton I suppose; or Wonder.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:16 | 2930438 Money Squid
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Hardy with perkins diesel looks pretty good. Got no room for it though.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:13 | 2930638 A Nanny Moose
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Gets bad enough, those will just attract...um...undesireable elements.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:14 | 2930431 Money Squid
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:26 | 2930456 Zero Govt
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lights still on, roads not flooded, happy days

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:17 | 2930440 diesheepledie
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Where is Kevin Costner? And when is the NYSE going to start trading in dirt?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:22 | 2930451 knukles
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Thinkin' 'bout celebrities and all the rats a comin' up from the sewers, if Richard Gere was in town he'd be havin' a ball!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:23 | 2930595 LikeClockwork
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You'll want to grow gills to play in that market.

 

/saw that first time last week and it wasn't the worst hollywood flick I've subjected myself to. In twenty years time I might get stewed and watch a re-run of that Stooges remake.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:23 | 2930452 Zero Govt
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New York estimates for repairing the damage of ...inadequate New York sea walls

which bill comes to considerably less NY State, if you ever did a Cost/Benefit analysis???

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:00 | 2930515 Flakmeister
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Here is a cost-benefit analysis for AGW, based on the above statment, we can count on your full support??

http://www.springerlink.com/content/863287021p06m441/fulltext.pdf?MUD=MP

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:28 | 2930600 Orly
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Anthropogenic Global Warming!

I should have known!

Bwaaaaaaaaaha-hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

What a tool.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 08:03 | 2930828 Flakmeister
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Hey, only 98% of scientists who study climate think it's warming....

What makes them wrong?

You have to stop getting your science from Fox news and the Koch Brothers....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 06:30 | 2930728 Zero Govt
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Flakmeister  -  looks soooo much like the most bent study conducted for the British Govt, the Stern Report which also priced carbon. What they left out (a serious omission m'Lord) is the positive price of both rising CO2 and rising temperature

if you're a fraudulent lying crook (like Al Gore) or hysterical (like eco loons) you don't wanna see the bright side, or price it into your all-negative-costs-no-benefits formula.

Like rising CO2 increases plant growth (that's why farmers pump extra CO2 into glasshouses, you harvest up to 30% more through this simple, lovely, beneficial airbourne fertilizer, CO2). Like rising temperature also increases plant growth and maes the world a nicer place.

Rising CO2 and temeprature are GOOD for the planet, who would have thunk it eh?

Certainly not the most bent and hysterical bunch of frauds on the planet, the AGW cretins

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:57 | 2930820 Flakmeister
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If you call a mass extinction of the planet good, then maybe you have a point...

Storing Up Trouble: A World of Imbalances

Humanity’s increasing impact on the Earth’s climate system involves more than just the emission of a trillion-plus tonnes of carbon dioxide since 1750.

The IEA publication CO2 Emissions from Fuel Combustion (2012) calculated global CO2 emissions from fossil fuel combustion to be more than 30.5 gigatonnes (Gt) in 2010, equivalent to atmospheric concentrations of 3.9 parts per million (ppm). The United States Department of Energy’s Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center has data extrapolated back to 1750 showing that of the 1337 Gt of CO2 emitted from use of fossil fuels in the 261 years since the dawn of the steam age, 24% occurred in the 11 years from 2000 through 2010.

... During the last great climate-change event, the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, some 55 million years ago, the Earth heated up about 6°C over 20 000 years and then took 200 000 years to return to near pre-perturbed conditions. The planet underwent significant changes during this period; ocean acidification accompanied mass extinctions on land and in the sea. The sedimentary rocks that formed before and after this event are so different that they were divided into separate geological epochs long before scientists discovered what had caused the split.

For a great many species, adaptation was simply not possible, even over many thousands of generations. Business-as-usual scenarios using current emission trajectories suggest that a similar degree of climate change is likely, but over less than 1/100th the amount of time.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 09:16 | 2931008 SilverRhino
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The planet changes.   Get over it.   Or would you prefer that we go back to an ice age to prevent your precious planetary warming?

Permian era lifeforms would die immediately if subjected to our environment right now.   The atmosphere had 10% MORE oxygen in it and the temperature was 10 dgrees C hotter everywhere.   

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 10:09 | 2931206 Flakmeister
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You really have some twisted logic there buddy...

Humans weren't around during the Permian, nice strawman...

An Ice age would take ~10,000 years to fully kick in, we are going to recreate the Eocene maximum in about 200 years... How many humans will the planet support then?  You also forget that H. Sapiens evolved in a time of cycling Ice Ages over the past 800,000 years, you could say that we are well adapted...

You clearly don't care about the species committing suicide, or you think that you and your descendents are special and will survive...Now that is extreme hubris!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 12:23 | 2931677 Quantum Nucleonics
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Why always assume change is bad? (Setting aside for a moment that climate science has been hijacked by politics)  A warmer climate would make large sections of the earth now permafrost into valuable farmland.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 01:14 | 2933779 Flakmeister
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Do you really think that?

Do you think any gains in farmland would not be offset by losses elsewhere? Seriously, what do you think happens to the Corn Belt when Nebraska is at 100+ degrees for 12 weeks a year? (Look it up if you don;t believe me)

BTW, you know all that nice top soil in the Corn Belt? It was scraped off of the Canadian Shield... you cannot have farmland without soil...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:29 | 2930464 Flakmeister
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Hey Orly...

We got 9 confirmed dead so far in NYC and NJ,  throw in a couple more on the Bounty and we've hit double digits...

Is that enough for you or do you need more before this is a "real" hurricane?

You fucking ignorant bitch....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:15 | 2930540 Freddie
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That many people get shot and killed in Chicago during a weekend.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:53 | 2930573 otto skorzeny
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I'm Rahm Israel Emmanuel and I deny that statement-but I will blame the guns anyway.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 09:20 | 2931015 SilverRhino
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Big fucking deal.   That's only twice the typical murder rate in those areas in a day.   

Wait until your city deals without power for a week.  THEN I'll feel sorry for you.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 10:13 | 2931221 Flakmeister
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It ain't my city but I agree it could get very ugly...

Hell, if you want to put it that way ~7,000 people die every day in the US....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:30 | 2930467 JOYFUL
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Everything about this 'storm' is manufactured...the only real surprise is just how many people are buying into the media frenzy. The Con-Ed thing may well have been a last-ditch move when the rest of the theatrical event proved to be a 'wash out.'

Somebody needed markets closed this week...and Treasury sales stalled. Right on time for the first anniversary of the MFG in your face Merika heist, (when somebody needed metals delivery nixed)...and let's throw in some Fukushima-like nuke melt down stories to further distract the punters whilst the magicians once again go about their work of vanishing [Germany's?] hard assets...

in fact, the only real pressure in this whole farce, barometric or otherwise, is the pressure building in the core of the suppressed precious metals' reactor room. Somebody has run out of tricks to keep the lid on, and there's still a week left before the phony election.

We are now officially entering the post-reality phase of the melting down and recasting of the USA from the world's biggest economic engine to the world's biggest basket case. The manipulations are relentless, talentless, bare-faced and, to the outside observer, shocking in their intensity...

Like the mysterious Ambassador who 'dies' in the [non]çonsulate' in the trippy spook palace outside of Benghazi, truth in Merika is being 'assassinated' right before our eyes, and there will be no funeral, only a zombified media gorging itself on the bits and pieces of the dismembered corpse.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:33 | 2930472 diesheepledie
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Yup! HAARP. Definitely HAARP. Fucking Reptoids! :-(

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:43 | 2930594 New World Chaos
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I am fairly skepitcal of HAARP because any energy it could project would be a fart in a hurricane and Nature is too chaotic AND unknowable to be controlled by such thin puppet strings.  But conspiranoid net-delvers have discovered this:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread894111/pg1

Back in '97, Westchester County, NY had a drill about a Hurricane Sandy with similarities to this one.  We do know the puppetmasters like to drill their false flags.  They usually drill on much shorter timescales (weeks to hours in advance) so this one is probably a coincidence, but it's still creepy.  It's like all of reality is a stage.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 05:37 | 2930699 lakecity55
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I read up on HAARP. It does not have billions of watts, as some conspiracy sites lead you to think.

Even if you focused it via phase-feeding the array and directing and focusing it, I don't think such a device has anywhere near the sheer power of a hurricane.

But, all the big states have always tried to manipulate the weather, so the idea of a weather weapon is not crazy.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:46 | 2930498 Divine Wind
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@JOYFUL

" the only real pressure in this whole farce, barometric or otherwise, is the pressure building in the core of the suppressed precious metals' reactor room."

 

ROFL. So true.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:48 | 2930501 Flakmeister
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How many times do I have to warn people not to smoke Angel Dust and post at ZH...

I swear that sometimes that toothless street guy in the Twelve Monkeys makes more sense than some of the posters here....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:19 | 2930592 JOYFUL
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As poster boy for the AGW scam here on ZH, your contributions never fail to amuse...your kind words are a soothing balm of commendation for my tireless efforts to counteract the effects of your scientificism cult.

Koolaid comes in all color n flavors Flakey....

what's your flavorite?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:52 | 2930813 Flakmeister
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My favorite is reality...

Go back to your Intelligent Design come Faux News.....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 07:57 | 2930819 dwdollar
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He's just pissed off the legacy media isn't hyping AGW along with the storm.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 08:02 | 2930825 falak pema
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My, the gold dust is really sparkling. Conspiracies are the Opus DEI vision of a convoluted world; trying to justify the untenable in the face of hard evidence. 

Lets stick to physics and leave the metaphysics to magicians of surpranatural metamorphosis. 

This Sandy cloud and its fall-out does not look like its been media concocted from this side of the pond. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 11:27 | 2931477 Flakmeister
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Metaphysics seems to be de rigueur here.... I guess life is easier when you can create your own reality on a whim....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 05:07 | 2930687 falak pema
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lol, tis a colourful place Flak ; ZH 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:14 | 2930538 Vince Clortho
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You may be right about manufacturing the media coverage, but the nuclear plant issue is very real.

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:49 | 2930615 JOYFUL
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... nuclear plant issue is very real...

you are correct - that is not under dispute.

What I am pointing out is the role of the controlled media perception manipulators  in conniving with the agents of weather manipulation in an effort to create the 'perfect storm' of conditions under which the final planks holding up the very shaky foundations upon which Merika's future lies are systematically removed...just as at Fukushima, the use of nuclear terrorism to mimic a natural event is now an element of these kooks' bag of tricks.

The storm in and of itself was of no great consequence...it is the effort surrounding it's role in manipulation of reality at this critical time that is of consequence...the pointing out of this distinction is extremely irksome to those behind this attempt at reality distortion, and the koolaid-drinkers who abet them.

“Information devours its own content. It devours communication and the social…. Rather than creating communication, it exhausts itself in the act of staging communication. Rather than producing meaning, it exhausts itself in the staging of meaning....‘only the dominant form of the medium’ can make events “happen’ ”  -Baudrillard\Simulacra and Simulation

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:17 | 2930641 Orly
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"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed- if all records told the same tale- then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"

- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 3

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 05:40 | 2930702 Random
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Spot on for all the items! 1. A big chunk of "news" are not real (one or combination of fake stories, actors and CGI); 2. Fukushima did not happened - at least the way it was presented and disseminated, and I am not talking about Jim Stone's angle either (starting with the quake's strength - go look for damage to concrete/steel buildings, going to CGI tsunami and going into explosions to meltdown - have a critical look at the explosions and how the debris behave/look (fading and morphing) and also check the historical and current gamma radiation background; think about Fukushima city, 60 km from Dai-chi with supposedly 4 core melt-downs going on for 1 year and a half already and think Chernobyl with only one reactor meltdown emitting for ~4 months and its impact, also factor in that supposedly there are workers doing stuff there at this very moment). 3. There is no US embassy/consulate in Benghazi (check the list of US embassies/consulates in Libya) and remember you were presented with images from the scene and it was also featured on ZH as a legitimate story.

I am so glad to see someone that can see through the bullshit and the constant psy-ops! I could give you a hug for this post!

My take is they (whomever they might be) are stalling for time, but why that is i have no clue (apart from not being something relating to economics, as they control it fully, Germany being „rogue” is another bullshit – controlled opposition anyone?).

Just my 2 East German pfennigs.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 06:47 | 2930740 falak pema
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I see the spirit of Karla lives on! What Stasi did to pollute E German minds nobody can unwind in the time of one generation life line. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:33 | 2930474 walküre
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What sucks is that those depending on the income from showing up to work on a daily basis are stranded, not able to commute and their accounts drained from daily living expenses. The class that lives in the city will have to do for without their favorite restaurant or shopping for a few days but that's the extent of it. The class that lives outside and is reliant on the commute to earn tips and income is hardest hit. This is a bigger problem for the city than 9/11 was in a nutshell. Nevermind the businesses in the city that are not running due to a lack of power, employees or customers or all of the above. The money that is not there to pay for the repairs is not even the worst of it, the time and effort it will take. The lack of restraint that is to be expected and on and on. When the entire NE was hit at the same time, the crews from other parts of the US can't even be there quick enough.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:50 | 2930504 Flakmeister
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According to Orly this was only a Category 1 hurricane and people could not be too affected by it...

Moreover, Ayn Rand would give you shit now if she could....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:07 | 2930528 Orly
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People haven't been too affected by it.  Once the water recedes and the power is turned on, New York City will be New York City.  I'm sorry to hear that four people lost their lives but in no way was this the devastating storm that you hyped up about yesterday.

Here's some storm damage for you:

http://www.cclockwood.com/stockimages/hurricanerita.htm

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/sfl-hurricaneandrew01...

http://earthchangesmedia.com/publish/article-9162522930.php

http://www.katrinadestruction.com/images/v/billingscr/

Now, leave me alone, unless you can bring an apology for your condescending rudeness not only to me but to everyone here.  Better yet, shut your mouth and open your eyes and you may learn something.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:21 | 2930547 walküre
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You have no idea what NY is about, do you? Miami or New Orleans could be hit by a nuke and the NY markets would be open as usual and the world would go about their business investing, making deals and trading. Not being open in NY for 2 days and possibly longer is a huge deal. Has nothing to do with NYers. It's a microcosmos of 10+ million people that affects much of the American and the global financial economy.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:23 | 2930550 Orly
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You and what-is-name are in the same boat.  Who cares about your precious market?  Is that all you've got?

Let's talk in terms of human devastation.

Yeah, that'll shut you boys right up.

:D

Oh and P.S. "Miami or New Orleans could be hit by a nuke and the NY markets would be open as usual and the world would go about their business investing..."

I guess that pretty much sums it up.  I rest my case.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:51 | 2930618 walküre
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yeah, rest your case punk. don't talk to me about human devastation

I made my point about NY. Like it or not. New Orleans and Miami just don't matter that much globally or in regards to America. Look, punk I'm not a fan of NY but I respect the city and its place on the global stage.

To make it even more clear. When lights go out in NYC and the markets shut down for extended periods of time it will affect every other rathole in the world in due time.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:10 | 2930635 Orly
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Okay.

"Punk."

Tee-hee.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:56 | 2930575 otto skorzeny
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yeah douchebag-the world never existed before a bunch of Jews started the casino known as the NYSE. fuck you and your NY sense of self-importance.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 02:56 | 2930621 walküre
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LOL, yes city of Jewish bankers. The fucking problem is that the country you're living in is run by the bankers in that fucking city and the country itself is of huge importance to the global economy.

Let's see what happens when hedge funds can't operate in NY for a week or longer.

You don't know the world before the Jews ran NY and the banks and neither do I. But we might get to know it pretty soon!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:24 | 2930645 Likstane
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There's a bunch of people in Kansas who don't give a shit about the NYSE, or the global implications of it no longer existing. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:31 | 2930648 Jon Bong Jovi
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I would be too if I was busy trying to get laid by my sister, because all the women under 40 moved to the city to become whores for dirty dudes in hip hop videos and the dirty hobo hipster guys.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:57 | 2930663 Likstane
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I don't understand this comment.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:54 | 2930496 anonnn
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There may be a misunderstanding. AFAIK, a utilityuses the term "customer" to mean 1 metered location.

 I.e.., each residential "customer" averages about 3 occupants [persons].

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:54 | 2930508 Incubus
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I wonder when we're getting a Hurricane Tyler. 

 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 00:57 | 2930513 ebworthen
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Markets closed for a week.

Markets open for five minutes Wednesday for HFT robots.

Best of luck muppets!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 03:30 | 2930647 Likstane
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This Wednesday is going to be a tough one to trade; especially timing the late session ramp job.  I better start oiling up my E-machine and watching some Bruce Lee flicks now if I'm gonna have a chance against the machines. 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 05:18 | 2930689 Awakened Sheeple
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Eh.. I'm waiting until we return to the normal level of manipulation.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:08 | 2930526 Rick64
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Ta Da! Job creation. Mother Nature just created more jobs then all the idiots in D.C..

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:09 | 2930532 Ignatius
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"Does this mean that Ann Margaret is not coming?"

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 06:34 | 2930736 Zero Govt
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that's a private issue isn't it? ..between her and her Sex Doctor

you wouldn't get this 'outage' at the Betty Ford Clinic!!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:10 | 2930535 Cman5000
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Katrina 2 i see fights over gas and ramen noodles.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:52 | 2930572 cbxer55
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But, But! Ramen noodles are worthless unless you got some way to boil the poop-infested water.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 06:34 | 2930735 marriedgeordie
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My kids eat them raw all right. No idea how they do it or why - perhaps it is their way of prepping for the world that awaits them in their adulthood

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:27 | 2930557 mpodval
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Pretty sure most of the damage in my basement was from Pual Krugman cumming all over the place and not so much from the severity of the storm.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 01:30 | 2930562 MsCreant
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Click on Picture 7 at this link:

Sandbags at Goldman Sachs

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/us/hurricane-sandy-churns-up-east-coast.html?hp

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