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Con Ed Expects 'Record' Outages As Tides Threaten Shut Down In Lower Manhattan

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Con Ed's SVP John Miksad just hosted a call with some relatively ominous comments. As they expect record outages from wind and rain damage, it is the tides and the flooding that is of most concern as the executive noted that they may cut power to Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan if tides reach forecast ranges:


Flood surge map and power outage links below...

Click Map for link to strom surge forecasts...


and here is NOAA's current forecast for tides...


and outages so far:


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Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:04 | 2928413 RmcAZ
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Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:06 | 2928431 Jonas Parker
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And provide the sharks with an ample supply of Tums...  Amen

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:10 | 2928440 I think I need ...
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What is the over/under on the storm used for earning disapoints thru March, April, May June,,,,,,,,,?????

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:14 | 2928460 madddmaxxx
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I'd say it's a Lock

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:20 | 2928481 Manthong
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 How much can a Black Swan poop after it has had its fill?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:30 | 2928509 Fukushima Sam
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I'm sure everything's going to be just fine.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:40 | 2928528 hedgeless_horseman
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"The Tide Is High"

 The tide is high but I'm holding on
 I'm gonna be your number one
 I'm not the kind of girl who gives up just like that
 Oh, no
It's not the things you do that tease and wound me bad
 But it's the way you do the things you do to me
I'm not the kind of girl who gives up just like that
 Oh, no
The tide is high but I'm holding on
 I'm gonna be your number one
 Number one, number one
Every girl wants you to be her man
 But I'll wait my dear 'til it's my turn
I'm not the kind of girl who gives up just like that
 Oh, no
The tide is high but I'm holding on
 I'm gonna be your number one
 Number one, number one
Every girl wants you to be her man
 But I'll wait my dear 'til it's my turn
I'm not the kind of girl who gives up just like that
 Oh, no
The tide is high but I'm holding on
 I'm gonna be your number one
 [Repeat and ad lib until fade]

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:43 | 2928558 SokPOTUS
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Ahhhh. The Good Ol' Days, when chicks could be skanky-hot without resorting to tats and body piercings as props...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:45 | 2928567 fuu
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She was no stranger to needles.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:01 | 2928612 Schmuck Raker
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Or cigarette burns.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 16:32 | 2928843's picture



“He stepped to the window and pointed to the skyscrapers of the city. He said that we had to extinguish the lights of the world, and when we would see the lights of New York go out, we would know that our job was done.”

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 00:58 | 2933765 Schmuck Raker
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James Woods would never say that...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:38 | 2928704 Woodrox
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hunh.. i thought that was kelly ripa

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 17:35 | 2929081 SWRichmond
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Debbie Harry...smokin hot, great pic, thanks for sharing.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:53 | 2928742 BeaverFever
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I enjoyed "Hanging On The The Telephone"

How long will the ObamaPhones last without a recharge? When they die expect the chatty degenerates to go apeshit.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:31 | 2928512 ZerOhead
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No crisis here since NYC was in need of a good pressure wash anyway.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:01 | 2928608 ZerOhead
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Although "dumpster diving" will now require scuba gear...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:07 | 2928624 Zer0head
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father, is that you father? oh happy day we thought you were roadkill

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 16:14 | 2928791 ZerOhead
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Nine lives Junior!  

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 17:46 | 2929105 DriveByLurker
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"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets"


- Travis Bickle, 1976

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:22 | 2928663 Renewable Life
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Not enough!

What I can't wait to read is, how many hundreds of billions the rest of the Country will be on the hook for, because 5% or less of New Yorkers/Jersey residents have rain and flood damage insurance!!! "

Who da fuck needs that shit yo, when's da last time it flooded in New York and Jersey, huh"

Dont worry East Coasters, daddys got your back, you can still sit in the middle of a fucking hurricane zone, just like your idiot cousins in the gulf, and the rest of us will pay the fucking bill! Now go fucking vote for Romney on early voting so you can get back home in time to fill out all those FEMA papers and National Insurance forms, so you can get your fucking money your "owed and entitled" too, right???

Oh your insulted?? What.......Government ONLY sucks when it's those other poor motherfuckers you dont like getting the free shit, the welfare, the entitlements, the subsidies, the FEMA checks.......but when its you New York, Jersey assholes who need it, holy shit you watch how many fucking rich ass hands go in the air and scream its gods will, now give me my money to rebuild!!!!

Just another day in the life of the American Hypocrisy!!

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:53 | 2928743 fonzannoon
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Do you guys in the midwest have tornado insurance? How about earthquake insurance on the west coast? I'm not being a wise ass, I'm actually curious.


Mon, 10/29/2012 - 16:25 | 2928819 Renewable Life
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I actually own property in both the Midwest and California amazingly, and I know for a fact that a majority of property owners in both the SF Bay area and LA bason do have earthquake insurance, it's pretty easy to do, it's just check the box and pay the increased premium! In the Midwest, it's a little trickier, because wind damage is standard to most policies, we did a claim last year for both wind and a damn lightning strike, however tornados involve rain as well and the insurance companies love to play games with that shit, so if you live in the Midwest, you need to make sure your policy covers tornando damage!!!

Which was my "wiseass" point in the original post, you live on the ocean, but you don't think a hurricane will hit you, but when it does, 95% of upper east coasters will believe in their hearts, it's not their fault they lost everything, AND it's therefore the govts job to make them whole again!!!!

And after the checks are written, they'll head back to their "new York way of life" and probably have the opinion, the problem with America is fucking food stamps!!!! Arrogant, self centered, hypocrisy at its finest!!!!

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 17:25 | 2929053 Disenchanted
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Here(IN - CMI hdqtrs) we're covered for tornado/wind damage but you have to pay extra for flood damage coverage. As many found out the hard way in 2008. The way I understand it the average homeowner's policy doesn't cover flood damage anywhere.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 18:26 | 2929211 Things that go bump
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My basement was always getting flooded out.  I did everything - drain tiled, put in a sump pump, laid a cement floor in the root cellar (I could have had a nice patio for that), landscaped.  Still the water came in.  The only flood my insurance company covered was for the time the pipes froze.  

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:17 | 2928470 MillionDollarBonus_
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This is a prime oportunity for politicians to bolster our infrastructure and boost the economy. Don't take this the wrong way, but I truly believe that the fiscal response to this natural 'disaster' could be the flame that lights a fire under the global recovery.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:19 | 2928479 malikai
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Yea. And let it burn. Burn it real good.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:58 | 2928596 Mad Mohel
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Not as good as an alien invasion, but I think he is on to something.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:20 | 2928483 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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I truly believe that the fiscal response to this natural 'disaster' could be the flame that lights a fire under the global recovery.

I'm going to go the other way and just say "burn it down."


Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:24 | 2928490 Randall Cabot
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Don't you need rain to have rain damage?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:24 | 2928491 Spastica Rex
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I just had to check in to yawn.


Mon, 10/29/2012 - 16:17 | 2928802 petolo
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Where were all the glamour microphone squeezers when Sandy hit Haiti?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:25 | 2928494 Matt
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Mayor Bloomberg should, immediatly after the storm, launch a program to build a 30-foot seawall around Manhatten. This will massively stimulate the New York area economy, creating many thousands of new construction jobs. 

If re-elected, Obama should announce that the battle with global warming has been lost, and launch a nationwide program to build similar seawalls around all major cities in low-lying areas. For the more spread-out places, new cities should instead be designed and created nearby on areas more than 50 feet above sealevel. 

With GDP growing over 10 percent per year as a result, the country can easily afford to run an 8 percent per year deficit, while still lowering debt-to-GDP; we'll grow our way out of debt!

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:27 | 2928501 Spastica Rex
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Perpetual motion rules! +1

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:41 | 2928550 MillionDollarBoner_
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"Mayor Bloomberg should, immediatly after the storm, launch a program to build a 30-foot seawall around Manhatten."

And then pump in seawater to fill the fucker to the brim ;o)

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:34 | 2928518 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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 Obama should announce that the battle with global warming has been lost.

That would be devastating, considering that his election supposedly marked the "moment where the rise of the oceans began to slow." Lol.

Romney should run with that, showing video of the east coast under water with voiceover from Obama's ridiculous promise.

 +1 BTW 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:43 | 2928719 Matt
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+1. Your post started with italics, so I couldn't green arrow you.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:32 | 2928519 Piranhanoia
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perfect,  just like the wall on the border, or in israel, or berlin.   But it might be a good way to keep wall street jailed?   

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:35 | 2928533 MillionDollarBonus_
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I agree with your suggestions Matt. However I disagree that the fight against climate change has been lost. Why not finance the infrastructure spending with green technologies? 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:41 | 2928551 Temporis
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So your saying the wall should be made if trees and grass instead of concrete and steel?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:44 | 2928562 TeamDepends
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Yeah, let's give MORE taxpayer dollars to companies like Solyndra.  Genius!!!!

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 00:44 | 2933754 MeelionDollerBogus
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The only 2 green technologies that would make a difference - thorium reactors and converting garbage into oil - have been shut down.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:58 | 2928763 BeaverFever
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Perhaps even rename the city Palestine?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:29 | 2928504 mr1963
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I'm pretty sure it's been proven disasters add nothing to an economy, in fact the opposite takes place. Productive dollars are spent -- in fact twice -- on the same thing. You may have an uptick in spending and employment, but it's temporary.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:06 | 2928621 TheGardener
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Disasters, proven or not , add to power. Disaster-mongering, proven by media covering of a little hard rain and winds for effect, add to total power. Shut down the tunnels! Rediculous! Shut down discovery channel so

to mangage birth control !?  Not just total power, any power seems to corrupt, disaster-mongering clearly  shows the ugly face of government controlled disaster.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:44 | 2928563 SokPOTUS
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I'm sure there will be a number of fires lit as a result of this storm...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:00 | 2928604 warchopper
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So what is the impact to insurers? 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:38 | 2928706 Matt
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Lots of insurance claims. Therefore, massive outflows of money. Therefore, massive drop in stock price. At least, that's the idea.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 16:49 | 2928915 King_Julian
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BREAKING: Paul Krugman in post masterbatory coma. In the end, all the broken windows did him in. Let us pray...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:17 | 2928471 slaughterer
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What a way to distract investors from a horrible earnings season.  Brilliant. 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:44 | 2928561 RmcAZ
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Goldman Sachs all sealed up, probably with sandbags full of money:

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:05 | 2928422 Dr. Richard Head
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Weeeeee!!!!! GDP positive or negative?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:05 | 2928423 Gully Foyle
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Would truly suck if some rogue state decided to act agressively during this time of crisis.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:06 | 2928429 lolmao500
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It would be even worse if Obama decided to act.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:12 | 2928451 MsCreant
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His entire presidency has been an act.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:30 | 2928510 stacking12321
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-1 for redundant

he already said rogue state

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:14 | 2928463 Bansters-in-my-...
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Give it up Gully Fool.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:19 | 2928478 TeamDepends
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Exactly what a rogue state would say...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:33 | 2928524 ZerOhead
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Like the Iranians with their secret weather machine...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:46 | 2928571 SokPOTUS
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Did they steal it from Karl Rove?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:58 | 2928593 ZerOhead
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It's not the Rove Mark III "Rainmaker" that I am worried about...

It's the unseen Iranian landing craft that are being blown ashore towards Wall Street under the cloud cover that have me biting my nails...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:33 | 2928523 Zap Powerz
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Keep your eye on Texas.  A very rouge state.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:43 | 2928557 MillionDollarBoner_
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Yeah, lots of rouge on them Texans.

"There's only two things come from Texas...";o)

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:28 | 2928681 ZeroAvatar
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".........and you ain't no steer, boy!"

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:48 | 2928574 A Nanny Moose
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Of course. Our government would never waste a crisis.

Good idea to pull cash from your ATM, just to be safe.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:05 | 2928426 lolmao500
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And nothing of value was lost.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:09 | 2928433 jplotinus
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Consistent with tide table, full moon @ 3:50pm

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:12 | 2928454 forwardho
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High tide battery park; 12:50 A.M.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:11 | 2928434 sawman
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Wonder how much gold will disapear as a result of this disaster. Gold does disolve in water doesn't it?

Still - as long as the Fed says it's there that's all that apparently matters.


Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:12 | 2928455 ziggy59
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Especially with Aqua Regia

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:14 | 2928462 hidingfromhelis
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Dissolve is the new vaporize.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:22 | 2928488 fnordfnordfnord
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Seas are choppy today. A boating accident sounds plausible.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:35 | 2928534 TheGardener
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All that gold held on behalf of foreign non-nation vasall states has had disolveled upon herself into a state of her own. Kind of divine, you know, where sovereignty as a last resort is

just a straw you got to drink the free coke of. Germans won`t choke, they are done by for a century and by now and just about dying off of old age.



Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:08 | 2928436 forwardho
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I assume you mean besides the U.S.?  Right?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:11 | 2928444 Dr. Engali
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So I wonder what crimes the politbureau are committing while our attention is on Sandy. Besides stealing the rest of Germany's gold. 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:10 | 2928445 JohnG
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:12 | 2928452 silverserfer
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Sorry Germany the NY Feds basement was flooded and all of your gold was ruined by the flood water. It had to all be thrown out. Hopefully you had it insured.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:19 | 2928477 forwardho
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Gold and water never mix well. One always sinks to the bottom, often never to be seen again. Or so i've infered by multiple boating accidents descibed here at ZH

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:39 | 2928546 CrimsonAvenger
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And miraculously all our fiat survived! Here, have some!

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:14 | 2928465 MsCreant
Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:21 | 2928486 malikai
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The comments in that thread are murder. Worth it for that alone. :)

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:32 | 2928516 Insideher Trading
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What the hell is up with that taco?


Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:17 | 2928474 ch25061
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Let no good crisis go to waste...signed, the wasters of the country...



Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:46 | 2928568 MillionDollarBoner_
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"the wasters of the country"

Is that like "The Coward of the County"?;o)

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:21 | 2928485 Jason T
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I'm confident my Spanish company Ibradrola owned utility, NYSEG, will provide me with their best service possible here upstate NY.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:35 | 2928535 machineh
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Right -- they've transferred all their non-paying accounts to the 'bad bank'.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:25 | 2928496 Schmuck Raker
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2PM(EST) Current loc 38.3N 73.1W

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:39 | 2928543 ziggy59
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Sorry, i dont have a GPS handy.. What does that mean?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:44 | 2928564 earnyermoney
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Latitude and longitude coordinates for the center of the storm.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:43 | 2928559 earnyermoney
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Wave height paints a 19 handle at the entrance to NY harbor. Intereating to see these numbers in 6 to 9 hours.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:58 | 2928598 TideFighter
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High enough to wet the knees of Lady Liberty?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:30 | 2928508 Zap Powerz
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How will the savages behave when the power is out for days?

Should be nice preview for upcoming events.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:34 | 2928529 machineh
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It's sounding more like Katrina every hour -- it wasn't the winds that did the big damage; it was the flooding afterward.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:34 | 2928530 fonzannoon
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it's gettin nasty now. lots of power outages on Long Island. the good news is i may finally get to see a reporter blow away mid report. always wanted to see that.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:49 | 2928577 fuu
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You were kidding about the kayak weren't you?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:58 | 2928599 fonzannoon
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Bloomberg said technically I could kayak at my own risk. I may bring a 20oz soda with me on the kayak and put the ball in his court.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:39 | 2928545 gamera9
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Relax Aquaman and his sea creature friends will devise a plan. This is just a replay of a superfriends episode.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:46 | 2928552 Miss Expectations
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When the sewer system is flooded, will all the toilets back up? 

I've been watching the Point Pleasant, NJ live feed over on Fox.. really scary.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:45 | 2928565 Abiotic Oil
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"Hey, you guys remembered to fill up the diesel tanks to keep the generators powering the cooling system for the reactors and spent fuel pool right...?"

"...I thought you were on that...?"

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:47 | 2928572 MillionDollarBoner_
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but...but...but...Kim K is gonna be okay, right?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:56 | 2928592 TideFighter
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Inventories will go down without retail sales going up, cue up alley monsters. 

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:00 | 2928602 fonzannoon
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Apparently some huge crain that was working on a bunch of luxury high rise condo's are is about to fall down.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:01 | 2928609 Zer0head
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how'd ya like to be up there trying to secure the thing

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:05 | 2928618 robertocarlos
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Not good. I'd attach a bit of thermite to it and take it down.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 14:59 | 2928603 Zer0head
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its called con ed for a reason



Betty Loop of BBG now blaming the crane collapse at W57th on sandy



Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:02 | 2928613 Sleepless Knight
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This is just perfect for getting Germany's last bit of gold out of the city without any camera or interuptions.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:08 | 2928615 Schmuck Raker
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Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:19 | 2928648 earnyermoney
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Wave height paints a 23 handle at the entrance to NY harbor.

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:03 | 2928616 whoknoz
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last time it was tried, the pile of rotten, sodden debris did not burst into flame...this time, a little nuclear nudge may be necessary...

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:30 | 2928688 jughead
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Strom surge?  Is Strom Thurmond rising from the grave?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 15:41 | 2928712 paradism_
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nuclear reactors, anyone?

Mon, 10/29/2012 - 16:07 | 2928780 mendolover
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Good grief.  I sure hope the fed chairman remembered to test the sump pump out downtown.

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Mon, 10/29/2012 - 21:15 | 2929837 nastaking
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