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The East Coast In Pictures: The Morning After
Stunning pictures of the devastation the east coast wakes up to the morning after.
First light over Manhattan as New York wakes up on Tuesday. Much of the island is without power and much of the city remains closed. The Goldman building once again boasts the best power generators and is a true beacon of what NYC is all about.
Whitehall Subway Station (via Andrew Cuomo)
Streets in New York are littered with debris as the floodwaters subside. A record storm surge of more than 13 feet (4m) deluged lower Manhattan.
Residents continue to be evacuated from their homes along the coast. Many had chosen to ignore the mandatory evacuation notices issued on Monday.
Early morning in Cape May, New Jersey, the clear-up begins. Earthmovers clear sand from the coastal road flooded by the storm surge.
Much of New York's public transport network was flooded. Here the waters burst through a lift shaft in a rail station in Hoboken, New Jersey. It could be days before it is fully functioning.
Firefighters were hampered by the floods in their attempts to bring under control a large fire which destroyed more than 50 homes in Queens, New York.
The damage caused by Sandy extended over a huge swathe of the East Coast. In Washington DC, early morning traffic rolls past an uprooted tree.
The replica ship HMS Bounty sinks beneath the waves off the North Carolina coast, photographed by the US Coastguard who rescued 14 people from the ship.
Buildings in Breezy Point, NY have completely burned down.
And...????
Courtesy of BBC, AP, Reuters, AFP and Getty Images
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best post ever.
I am in the process of designing "always remember" hats.
Just wait, every football game played east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line will feature a half time tribute to the FDNY/NYPD "heroes" of Sandy who, for the meager pittance of $100k+ per year, free benefits, and a lifetime pension, bravely rescue some homeless people out of knee deep water.
Epic! You owe me a new keyboard!
I can't stop laughing reading this entire thread.
I rarely go this far down...I'll see ya later got more to read...
'I rarely go this far down...'
That's what Becky Quick said (but she's a liar)
now THAT was the best post ever. every major network will be working on a "Sandy NYPD/FD Heroes" tv show that NO ONE will watch.
and just think, the mayor can now run for president
[who] ...bravely rescue some homeless people out of knee deep water.
...and then beat them to within an inch of their lives while violating their ani with a broken broomstick.
lol, you sound like cuomo on NPR this morning...
Dibs on the 'I survived super storm sandy' T-shirts!
'I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you. And that bitch Mother Nature who flooded these buildings will hear all of us soon.'
"There's an old saying in New York, I know its in Texas, it's probably in New York that says 'into each life some...some...into each life... there's some rain and I wonder, still I wonder who will stop the rain?'"
King Rudy will still be stuck in the past.
Goldman Sachs survived? Proof once again, there is no God.
How much proof do you need?
Proof Infinity?
Only proves that evil is thriving.
I'm an optimist. One positive wipes out a lot of negatives.
Of course, I do remember an experiment awhile back with pigeons. It showed something about addiction. Pigeons pressed a button and were rewarded totally at random with food. Under these circumstances, this set up caused the pigeons to hit the button most often regardless of their need of food.
I'm a pigeon. I'm looking for proof of a just God.
Alcohol helps....
I know lots of people who believe in God. They were trained up this way. I'm from a cartoonish area of America with many childhood-brainwashing victims about. They believe in talking snakes. It seems to me they will find themselves ill-equipped to deal with reality when TSHTF. Thats what happens when you don't operate in reality. But at least they got that social acceptance-- at least they strengthened those family ties... at least they feel good. Not for much longer.
Social acceptance is very important to a community-based survival plan. I find that I can attend church only once every few months and still be accepted in the community (I'm very busy out on the farm...) .
It's important to keep tabs on the minister, he's not a pediphile, not a Jim Jones, and not someone that will get all Jim Jonesy in a difficult situation.
Church is a good way to bind a community together and gather intel, as long as it doesn't take over and become all-important.
Yes. But when it begins to bleed over into governmental affairs or modern science... there's a problem.
Agreed. My comment was aimed towards your SHTF point.
Hear! Hear!
By the way, any book that claims to be the ultimate moral authority that condones slavery is clearly a crock....
Now that's goin' just a little too far; reference the Goldman Sachs Employees Handbook
Poor example: As if Governmental Affairs would actually be screwed up worse? They're pleanty experts at it already.
And science? Yeah, the Gods of oops and hindsight. Not against science, but for the love of Zeuss -- Science had Americans eating partially hyrdogenated oils for 40 years as a healthy alternative to butter, when in hindsight it was much worse. Let's see: natural occuring fat humans have eaten for thousands of years vs. artificially flavored and colored, mechanically made rancid?
Not saying Science is bad. Only that it knows only so much as it actually knows, much of which is later proven (oops!) wrong.
Science is a philosophical matter, not a chemical one. "Science" can produce cyanide from its component parts... that doesn't mean you should eat it. You are blaming science for americans eating shitty food? please.
You are blaming science for americans eating shitty food?
No, he wasn't. He simply gave an example of the truth of science: in seeking answers, it is often wrong. When proven wrong, science says oops and goes about trying to find a more correct answer. That is the basic definition of science: the willingness to look for better answers when proven wrong.
This was not science, this was food production companies, probably Monsanto, ConAgra, and Kraft ADVERTISING and funding reserach telling peolpe things that were charitable to their bottom lines.
Well, there's that too.
a "science" that serves the paymasters, corporate food machinery, corporate military, biowarfare, pharma, - the white-jackets-of-Fatherly-science, echoes of "gods" that most have grown up with, unquestioning, trusted.
the science of servitude, of death and decay.
Ha! By commanding obedience from children under threats of; burning in some fiery place, forever; the withdrawal of gifts from some bearded demi-god wearing a red suit in celebration a man who was, with 100% certainty, born on Dec. 25th...the year of that event however, remains elusive. The latter had to die because people are bad.
Sometime later, kids figure out the man in the red suit doesn't exist, and that their parents have lied to them all these years.
Next thing you know, we will find out the Abe Lincoln, and George Washington told lies.
/Deeply cynical rant -off
It's not cynical to understand that humans are liars. Not all of them, but most of them. That's REALISTIC.
Most drinkers & alcoholics stop at ~ 100 proof, while the hillbillies have a hankerin for ~ 150 proof moonshine.
But seriously, the proof is everywhere and undeliable. The discovery of DNA alone stands as a perfect example of irreducible complexity and defies all attempts to explain its existence through unlimited amounts of time or chance (i.e. macro evolution). The probability that a random event lead to the first strand of viable, information-bearing DNA is immeasurably smaller than the probability that a tornado could sweep over a metal scrapyard and -- by chance -- assemble a fully-functional Porshce Boxster (or pick your luxury vehicle).
The fool says in his heart there is no God.
You are a charlatan. DNA is reducible. It is explicable. You are not knowlegeable enough to comment on this stuff.
Proverbs 22:6 Start children off on the way they should go,
and even when they are old they will not turn from it.
Here's what childhood brainwashing is. It's you. It's you, friend.
Niiiiice. You're an 'informed atheist', so I won't bother trying to confuse you with the evidence.
As an example, please continue to ignore that the entire fossil record and fossil fuel deposits support a cataclysmic global flood with rapid water burial and the reversals of the magnetic poles. And since when can information (i.e. billions of bits of genetic coding) come from nothing other than time, chance and energy? You change DNA in any of a million wrong ways and you have deadly mutations, not evolution. What's the life expectancy of a fruit fly purposely exposed to radiation to change its DNA and grow curled wings? Not very long. Miller's experiement with water, ammonia and electricity was a complete failure as it produced only left-handed amino acids and was conducted in an anerobic enviroment, which is a completely false assumption.
Let's just agree that since neither creation or macro evolution are reproducible, observable events, they should be treated as theories.
I'd be happy to introduce my six kids to you anyday to dispell any suspicions of brainwashing. Honestly, is not the culture of ZH one of contrarianism? As a creationist father of six, I would think I fit right in. I do, actually.
Let me guess, you signed up for "Teach the Controversy"....
I suggest you watch the following:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/darwin-never-knew.html
Man created God in his own image, not the other way around...
Haven't heard of teach the controversy actually. While I appreciate the gesture, I'll pass on the PBS video (but I did read the synopsis).
We have a flawed perception of God due to our own sin and the corruption of the world around us. Atrocities supposedly committed in God's name doesn't nullify the existence of God anymore than a kindergartner calculating 1 + 1 = 3 nullifies the laws of mathematics.
One day we'll all see God clearly with complete knowledge under one of two circumstances -- great joy and expectation, or complete regret and dread.
For those who believe, no proof is necessary; for those who do not believe, no proof is possible.
Well, if your percieved maker does exist, I hope you meet him on good terms...
Personally, I won't be holding my breath....
I will reiterate, the scripture has zero place in matters of public policy, which includes public education...
Moreover, given your premise of an eternal soul and the relatively ephemeral nature of our existence on Earth, I am pretty sure that any Divine Being is quite capable of providing judgement in matters such as abortion...
Oh yeah, fianlly, Jesus was a socialist....
I'm an atheist and an anarchist but as long as we're all forced to live in a so called democracy then those who live by religious principles should have the right to act on those principles in the public sphere. You agree to live your life according to the amalgamated personal opinions of hundred of millions of people when you accept democracy as a governing principle.
Yes, the fundamental principle of liberty.
The Constitution's proclamation concerning a separation of church and state has nothing to do with freedom from religion, but is intended to reflect freedom of religion.
Then again, ever so many these days select the State itself as the Higher Power.
Long live the nWo....
No one is arguing against what you wrote...
If in an legislative body, anyone saying such and such should the case because the Bible/Koran/Torah etc... tells us so should be recused from voting on that issue...
And don;t come up with the argument that the Bible is required at the foundation of moral code. Any reasonable humanist could construct as good a moral code as what was alledgedly passed down from Mt. Sinai...
PS And having had a number of Jesuits as professors (in physics), and having discussed the such issues with them, it is very clear that faith can be reconciled with rational thought....
I clearly stated that I am an atheist. Why would I argue that the Bible is required as the foundation of a moral code? It sounds to me like you specifically set out to argue with me and had to create an improbable straw man in order to do so. But that's OK. If there was a Jesus he would love you anyway.
The point of the New Testament is that Jesus would love him through you, athiest or not. Scary thought??
Does Jesus provide free condoms?
No offense intended. I didn't create my sense of humor. Somebody else did that.
I have no problem with individuals choosing to live by principles and labeling them "religious" providing they don't seek to encode them in constitutional laws to be used against those who understand their lives differently.
it's the little law-making types that need to reign in their desire for control.
Perhaps some people would object if you voted for candidates or legislation which supported the principles you hold most dear. Will you refrain from attempting to influence legislation based on your own principles or do you apply a different standard to yourself than you do to others?
my principles don't include drawing up legislation that affects people's lives, based on my belief system, nor does it include punitive voting to get my way.
control freaks always lose in the end.
But control freaks are exactly what you get in a democracy. If you'd like to be free to live your own life as you see fit then try anarchism. It's a hoot.
and apparently fits all sizes, including pro-lifers! I've been listening to the multitude(s) definitions of "anarchy" since my teens, it's a fine concept when practiced with clarity - it's the variants, the co-opted versions that cause a *shrug*
anarchists voting??
thanks, I'll stick with no labels, no boxed in philosophies - just defined as I go, to whoever needs clarification. . . and continue to steer clear of governments as far as possible, including registering with them for the right to vote. . .
Sounds like you're well on the path to practicing individual sovereignty. The only label involved is (your name here).
There's no need to rely on (alledged) events of the past to argue for or against the existence of your alledged "God".
Said existence can be thoroughly disproven today simply by viewing the question from a legal standpoint.
What sort of "God" would (a) have no laws, or (b) have laws but not enforce them?
A law not enforced is no law at all. It's a joke.
What? They'll be enforced at some later time?
Bullshit. Nonsense.
Lack of any laws, or laws not enforced. Either way, your alledged "God" is a joke, certainly not worthy of any legally knowledgeable person's respect.
What sort of "God" would (a) have ...
If the God of the Jewish Bible exists, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to meet your standards. Rather, you have to meet his (which are, love God and love others as yourself).
As a matter of logic - when you impose your own understanding on God, when you place your own standards and/or requirements on him if you will, you have created a God of your own vision. In the Jewish Bible, that is called an idol. The God of the Jewish Bible says that is a no no.
I don't think anyone really cares what your gutless "God" says or thinks.
No law, no enforcement, everybody thumbs their nose at him and nothing is done?
Some pretty chickenshit "God" you have there :)
You must be paraphrasing the Jewish Bible - Ecclesiastes 8:11 - When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people’s hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong. (NIV)
Most of the time you cannot win by reasoning with them, but it is often tempting to try:
4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26
King James Version
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Matthew 7
King James Version
Silver For The People
http://www.brotherjohnf.com/
Agreed. I only hope to deliver a message; provide the spark. And it reminds me to be more consistent in applying my faith in my own thoughts and actions and be less hypocritical. I fail so many times.
You're asking me to ignore the entire fossil record? but you are also a creationist? WTF? I feel extremely bad for your children. You should be preparing them for the world.
You're asking me to ignore the entire fossil record?
No he is not. He simply said he looks at the same evidence you look at and comes to a different conclusion regarding how it got there.
Separate but related thought: I'm sure you are familiar with that fact that discoveries continue to be made in the fossil record, some of which have caused science to go back and adjust their thinking about earlier "explanations". Which is the way of science; we adjust previous conclusions when made necessary by current discoveries. Point being, the fossil record has not yet finished speaking to us.
None of these discoveries have negated macro evolution, but have solidified it. I know what science is. Yes, you are right, the fossil record is still speaking to us... it continues to say evolution is correct.
I was speaking only of the fossil record, not evolution. That is, I was speaking of what is there, I was not speaking of how it got there. I think how it got there will continue to be revealed as future discoveries are made.
Actually, he's right, doing the math. It has been calculated (sorry no link...) that it would take about 400 billion years for the DNA (or the Porsche...) to be constructed randomly, whereas we have been on this planet for only 4 billion years...ish.
So, either the DNA came from an outside source, such as space "debris" or it was created on the spot by some entity we don't fully understand.
Personally, I am under the impression that this is all a 3-D illusion taking place in our 2-D little minds. None of this is really real anway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnvM_YAwX4I
:D
You fall for all the psuedo-science, don't you?
BTW, we know of at least 4 dimensions that are intimately connected and there very well may be more....
"It has been calculated" Holy shit are you a gullible ninnyhammer. Check out that sleight of language.
Nothing like a discussion of Evolution to show a persons true colors, eh?
ZH is unparalleled in terms of analysis, but the people here are crazy!
And if you think the people here are crazy, I can suggest a few other venues of pure madness...
Most ZHers are perfectly sane. Some odd opinions, differences thereof, but quite sane
Sane yes, but anyone who prattles on about HAARP, chemtrails, abiotic oil etc... and the like are ignorant...
Whoa whoa whoa...Now Abiotic oil is BS but the approach to MSP for west bound flights goes right over my house at about 10K feet (been on many a flight). Been watching them for years. This summer more than once I saw chem-trails running perpendicular to the approach pattern...over and over and over.
And HAARP is already well documented so shut the fuck up.
HAARP exists but it sure as fuck aint a weather control scheme theoretical or otherwise... Do you actually know what it is about?
PS They are called contrails... Why don;t you get a good pair of binocs and do a little investigation of your anomalous trails and tell us what you see, no, that would be too hard, much easier to believe crackpot nonsense...
I dont know why I would get into this with you...
closed
minded
I know what contrails are I was fucking Crew Chief on B-52's in the 80's. I have never (12 years) seen them run that direction...and stick around for hours. And by them I mean contrails.
As for HAARP do you think the UN would ban them for military use if it wasnt for weather mod?
I would talk to a V.A. guy as it is clear that you got exposure to Agent Orange or something similar. I am sure you have a solid case for compensation...
Most? Is that it? Is that your opinion? It is my opinion that there are some crazy people here.
Don't confuse crazy with Awake...
JPMHater001...
Most excellent.
Once awake can never again sleep.
Once seeing can never again be blind.
I once was lost but now I'm found...
I was once a pastrami sandwich noo...
That would explain a few things....
What gives you the impression that physics, chemistry and biology are random?
If it weren't random, it would be guided by something, by definition, of course.
So everything that happens in the universe is guided by God. Included in the group 'everything in the universe' are humans and human behavior. Therefore God controls all human action just as he controls the orbit of planets, the falling of apples and the natural laws which govern them. If God controls all human action then how can he praise or punish man for those actions?
If God judges man because man is unique in the universe in that he can accomplish thought and action without God's input then perhaps it was man who created the universe. Or perhaps there are other such independent actors who created the universe but do not rise to the level of being Gods.
In reality, I have no idea where the universe came from and it's not relevant to my life. But the 'God makes everything happen' theory does not square with God's supposed propensity to praise or damn those who could not act independently of him if that was the case.
There's a reason why religion is based on faith and not reason. Not that there's anything wrong with that if that's your bag. Lots of good things in life can only be accomplished with faith.
Therefore God controls all human action just as he controls the orbit of planets, the falling of apples and the natural laws which govern them.
Re. the God of the Jewish Bible: we are constrained by the way he created us to be. We have two eyes, two hands, two feet - not six hands and 24 feet and three heads. We need oxygen in order to stay alive; we cannot exist on pure helium. In this way we have constrained free will. We can choose among the choices presented to us, but we don't control what those choices are. That is what is meant by the general idea that God controls us - through what we are created to be and the environment we have been placed into. You and I can only run with what we have been given.
Some believe that God controls every movement of every thing that exists (organic and inorganic) (See Calvinism). Some believe that God set the universe in motion, set up laws that govern the behavior of the universe, and pretty much leaves it alone to operate on its own (see Arminianism). Others believe that the truth lies in a combination of the two extremes - God can and does act in the affairs of man, but mostly leaves them to their own devices - to operate as best they can in a world governed by the laws that he established (gravity, electromagnetism, etc) (pretty much the point of the Jewish Bible).
If you already know this, then nevermind.
Seriously people think for yourself.
Yes, the chance may be 1 in 4 billion but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen on 2. The chance of it happening on 2 are the same as 4 billion unless you run the experiment enough times for a statistical congruity which then will mean to 4 billion. Could take 16 billion...Could take a week.
God, we can assume, would be at least as complex a being as those he could create. So what event spawned his existence and to whom should that creation be credited?
You're ignoring the he's always been and always will be part of the Jewish Bible? If he has always existed, and if everything else that exists is part of who his is, is part of him, then your question is an exercise in futility.
From a philosophical standpoint (not religious), consider the implications if God made you, rather than the standard "you made God".
In some ways, men still refuse to let go of the idea that "man" is the center of the Universe.
If one can claim that God always was and always will be then another can claim that the universe always was and always will be, no creator required. The same logic applies.
It's all round about talk which is a fine way to spend an afternoon but once again, there's a reason why religion is best discussed with a eye toward faith rather than with forays into reason which inevitably end in contradictions and endless loops.
For me man is the center of the universe as I see it. Specifically, I am that center. It's the only place given to me on which to stand. It keeps me humble and forces me to be responsible for my own actions and to look more charitably upon my fellow man.
... another can claim that the universe always was and always will be, no creator required.
Agreed.
For me man is the center of the universe as I see it.
You might try looking at some of the pictures of the Universe taken with the Hubble space telescope. ;-)
To the best of my knowledge the universe is infinite. I occupy a position in which one might theoretically travel an equal distance in any given direction. Therefore I stand in what is for me the center of the universe. An infinite universe has an infinite number of centers.
Stick to be a Ron Paul acolyte...
You are *way* out of your league in these matters.... But in all fairness, I give you credit for at least thinking of these matters....
Thanks for sharing your opinion with me.
You do have to reconcile that statement with the Big Bang and clearly there was a discontinuity in the history of our Universe...
I'll leave it at that, if the people here can't wrap their heads around AGW, they sure as hell ain't going to fare well with Cosmogony...
I wonder why, if "God made man" that same "God" didn't make man a child bearer?
everything would be more clear if "God" had truly created "man" in "His" image, with all the powers of "creation" - replicants.
that would make the other 50% of "His" creation unnecessary. . .
Orly and her ilk used to have people like you burnt at the stake for that kind of attitude....
Orly? she doesn't sound Catholic to me. . .
I wonder why, if "God made man" that same "God" didn't make man a child bearer?
Some posit that the first creation contained both genders. God supposedly took Eve out of Adam in order to separate the genders.
mmm, yes, the word gender is commonly mis-used, perhaps deliberately so?
and there's not really a strict "both" when it comes to the sexes, which can vary quite a bit depending on the hormones in utero, etc.
point in fact, roughly one in 2000 births are not recognisable as "either sex" and many of those get "assigned" a sex by surgery, etc. - so as to avoid the "problems" of cultural dissonance. this has obviously been problematic for many recipients of assigned sex as they age, and hormones arise that might not match the assigned cultural role. . .
http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency
society needs the duality of "man/woman" oppositions, particularly FatherGod cultures. . . but there are cultures that allow for a third gender, such as the hijira in Nepal, or "two-spirits" in native american cultures.
but yes, "god" created woman out of man, that's a very handy way of making "woman" a derivative human, and setting up cultures that reflect that meme. and it's the cultural story to have "opposites attract" which makes marriages, babies, and consumers.
the strict cultural gender role-playing is dying off tho' and only extreme force will attempt to suppress what is increasingly known.
Your question would assume that God exists on a parallel with our own interpretation of being; that there must be a "birth" and a "death" of a being, sentient or not. This is not necessarily true and the idea requires that we expand our understanding to an entity that has no beginning and no end but Is and Always Has Been and Always Will Be.
I think humans, in our current evolution are incapable of truly understanding this concept, though we can try hard enough. This can be true if we can place the identity of our existence, our own personal experiences, as occurring in the mind of God. The Holographic Universe Theory does support such an idea as that because science (physics, chemistry, biology...) has done a fantastic job of answering questions that are on the outside of the envelope of our experience but does a very poor job of answering questions as we explore deeper into what is on the inside of the envelope.
For instance, quantum states and Schroedinger's cat are quite baffling to science, as it is possible that there exists two (and probably more...) states of being simultaneously. Put succinctly by Discovery online:
"The baffling part about quantum physics is that unlike its inflexible forebear, classical physics, the rules keep changing and the results of an experiment or equation can't be predicted. Often, physicists are as shocked by the results as anyone. Sometimes, the theories can't be proved except by imaginary experiments. After more than a century, quantum physics continues to be a source of mystery and amazement."
We may ask ourselves how these possible possibilities and seemingly opposite states of being can exist simultaneously and one answer may be that these things don't really "exist" at all but are instead ideas of our being that may be simple impressions that we only perceive to be real, perhaps emanating from the mind of God. It is why we all have many possible futures and therefore many possible pasts.
I am not saying that I believe that there is some dude up in "heaven" recording my foibles, wearing a white robe, smoking a cigar; looks like Guy Kibby. Nor am I saying that there is no such thing as scientific evolution because any entity capable of projecting "life" (according to the ideas above...) would certainly be capable of manifesting a simple linear progression of that life as it becomes more and more complex.
What I am saying is that we are all a part of the universe that Always Has Been and Always Will Be because we were never apart from it. We "live" there. And my experience tells me that the essence of this entity in the Universe can be felt by us humans by what we feebly call, "love." Love lives there and it lives in us and throughout the Universe.
I say this because, in my mind, it makes perfect sense, though I'll be hard-pressed to tell you why there is a loving undercurrent to all of this. It is not for me to understand but to only accept, as my scientific mind has come to that conclusion and it seems to be the simplest answer.
When people die and are resuscitated, what they tell us from the other side is that the first thing they felt was more love than they had ever imagined could possibly exist. Love is the glue. Love, for lack of a better word, is God.
:D
Love, for lack of a better word, is God.
Or ... God is love. (1 John 4:8)
1 =1, or stated the other way, 1 =1.
I love you; therefore I am God?? ;-)
All is one and one is all. Hello?
Expand your mind a little, Richard, and stop trying to be antagonistic. It doesn't become you.
I was trying to be cute. I like your picture.
Which leads to ... body language is necessary for successful comunication. When it is only words, communication can be misconstrued.
I'd strip away the rest and go with this:
But what if love is only a verb? Can verbs live in outer space?
Verbs can not stand alone. There is no swim without the fish. There is no fly without the bird. There is no charity without the giver. For this reason the concept of the selfless act proves to be nonsense. Ayn Rand was right.
I don't claim it has to be selfless, but it is an act. Love, without behavior, is useless to everyone. Words and feelings do not benefit anyone until they are translated into behavior. And behavior is a verb.
That's why I prefer works based on my own knowledge of the human condition and I avoid putting my faith in the words of others. Cuts out the middle man.
although I would use somewhat different words to tell the tale, I do agree with what you've written here Orly, maybe apart from this,
if you're referencing Western nations, then yes, most likely correct - but Eastern philosophy has repeatedly identified the essence of universal being-ness well before the West set up their FatherGod fiefdoms of tribute collectors. . .
the Tao, Advaita Vedanta, etc. are based in non-dual thought, Oneness. "love" is a concept, has variable definitions, but overall it can be the awareness of no separation, All that Is.
Exactly. Thanks for that.
:D
Dr. Dino is in the house. Keep drinking the pseudo-science kool-aid, zapdude. You have no clue what you are talking about. You are just repeating talking points of Ken Hovind. Congratulations, you are a parrot.
Meh. I was merely responding to the God-related comments above, which actually sparked an interesting discussion -- to some of us at least.
No parrot at all, I am quite independant in my thinking actually.
Seeing as how most western culture adults believe in evolution and dismiss the idea of creation as a fairytale, you're siding with the mainstream educational establishment and I would argue that YOU are the parrot.
Lastly, I highly doubt you're a Ph.D / MD of anything related to this topic, if at all.
Junk away...
Dr. Dino is in the house. Keep drinking the pseudo-science kool-aid, zapdude. You have no clue what you are talking about. You are just repeating talking points of Ken Hovind. Congratulations, you are a parrot.
"How much proof do you need?"
I want to actually meet and alien.
Goldman Sachs worships Lucifer, the Light-Bringer.
Long Live Lord Lloyd - definitely what NYC is about. That's why I live in PGH.
Say that fast ten times.
Loot the Goldman building on mass in a post hurricane, an excuse to lose our minds kind of frenzy.
No, this just goes to show that they really are doing God's Work(tm).
lol
No pics of the NY Fed's flooded basement? The saltwater for sure has dissolved all that (Germany's) Gold wrapped chocolate.
How does tungsten hold up to salt water?
Yes, as long as you don't heat it as well it is fairly inert.
Have to say, thermite helps.
Dude, seriously?! Goldman's building the beacon and shining light. If Sandy couldn't kill that beast....
Sharks and squids strive in an aquatic environment such as dark pools. Sandy may have just unleashed the monster.
The plot thickens.
You mean, JPMGoldmanBOACityZilla might be loose?
Just what Obammy needed, a few days diversion away from Bengahzzi..................and a few more days to fake votes,and rigging the machines.
A chance to look like a real POTUS, and spend more FIAT.
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/region/howard_county/power-loss-causes-...
Power loss causes sewage overflow in Md.State officials say a power outage caused by superstorm Sandy at a water reclamation plant has resulted in a sewage overflow of 2 million gallons per hour into the main stem of the Little Patuxent River.
No shit?
Yep shit. ALot of it.
Now known as the "Little Putrescent River"
Actually, that's nothing new. One leg of the recent Iron Man race was going to be postponed due to a large sewage spill in the river.
"Iron Men" afraid of some poo? Holy fuck, this country is worse off than I imagined!
That's OK. The Patuxent doesn't flow into the Potomac. I won't have to drink any of it.
Without power how can the fan work?
There goes the weekend snorkeling excursion.
Bad time to go fishing, huh? Ah,Fuck it, where are my waders?
Nice of them to filter out the shit before they add the fluoride.
Reminds me of my dorm room...the morning after
That New York street photo was actually taken pre-Sandy...
Caution! Wet Floor...rofl...
I know, right? That shit was funny. Whoever put that there should be smacked... or given a medal.
Next up...the plague
Actually water to blood, then frogs, then lice, then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bputeFGXEjA
God's workplace never goes dark...But seriously, are they using diesels or do they have a nuke in the basement?
Not basement. Roof. Otherwise it'd be as dark as its neighbors.
It's The Squid, they are waterproof.
They should have monsterous backup generators. Not only that, they should also have another business continuity building somewhere outside of the financial district.
Otherwise, the vampire squid would die if it's off the host for an extended period of time.
Nuke = Bonds in Basement.