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How To Vote Well

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On the heels of Mr. Tilson's missive, we thought this brief clip might help. Voting well is not about being properly hydrated, reaching the polling booth on time, and placing your ballot slip (hanging chad-less) in the slot (without touching the sides); it is about removing your inherent cognitive biases and going with the facts - or trying to discern the facts - as much as possible. Making well-informed decisions with the cloud of spin and uncertainty that constantly bombards us is hard but as Jason Brennan notes in this brief clip, starting by recognizing our natural biases might help. By outlining the four common biases that tend to affect our voting (think back to 'The Other Side' post and how real it was!), he offers five suggestions that can lead us to be better voters.



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Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:45 | Link to Comment redpill
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I vote with molotov cocktails, how do you like that bias, princess?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:48 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBonus_
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Sandy has now reached RED ALERT status - this is an emergency. FEMA needs to step in and confiscate all firearms in line with standard procedure. If you are in an area affected by Sandy and are possession of firearms, it is your duty to make sure you turn them in to your nearest police station immediately

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:51 | Link to Comment redpill
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Clearly the PRUDENT thing to do is to postpone elections indefinitely until our various natural and economic emergencies have passed.  The Federal Reserve should be given a third mandate that provides them the responsibility to tell us when it's safe enough to vote again.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:56 | Link to Comment Richard Chesler
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That's all fine but what I really want to know is which candidate is handing out the more free shit and als.. excuse me, my Obamaphone is ringing....

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:03 | Link to Comment's picture

Those various biases contribute to the mistaken impression that it's a good idea to let strangers make all of the most important decisions for you about your own life.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:05 | Link to Comment redpill
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'Don't vote, it only encourages them.'

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:11 | Link to Comment CvlDobd
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I think most of us here at ZeroHedge subscribe to Emma Goldman's views on the merits, or lack thereof, of voting.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Muppet of the U...
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Silly silly muppets.  Diebold votes for you!


I'll just stay home and eat gmos and cheetos.  Suckers.


Edit: "Insert Famous Stalin Quote:"

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Even the counters are in the unemployment line now.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:58 | Link to Comment NewThor
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All people of Earth need a new plan that leads to a global system that will stand as One until the year 3000.

That's what I believe, but! I am just a poet.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 18:31 | Link to Comment saints51
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You do realize what you just posted. If you do then you know why you are getting red arrows. If not let me tell you why. What you are stating is for a new world order. The elite want this badly. So this will not sit well in this neighborhood.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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The elites already have their New World Order in place. The fact that they state they want a new world order doesn't negate the fact that its already here.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:49 | Link to Comment Dixie Rect
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MDB...yawn... c'mon, you can troll better than that!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:04 | Link to Comment's picture

Diminishing returns with that one. Never was my cup of joe.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:21 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Yeah, even 'Michael' did a better job!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:49 | Link to Comment pods
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Well in NYC, the legal firearm confiscation will take about a half hour.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment Hacked Economy
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And THAT'S why none of mine are registered and are of the types that legally don't need to be reported.

Los Angeles 1992, armed police go door-to-door in wealthier areas to confiscate legally owned firearms from residents as a *preventative measure* to contain the violence happening downtown at the Rodney King riots.  Same thing in New Orleans after Katrina a few years ago.  They just took them from law abiding citizens without due process.

You'd better believe they'll come for your guns at the outset of a major outbreak of civil unrest.

All your guns are belong to us.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Please use one on yourself before turning in

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:31 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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No need...

When the cops see the citizenry approaching with their guns what do you think is going to happen?


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:56 | Link to Comment LynRobison
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Shall those of us who live in the western U.S. turn in our firearms too?

It will be such a relief to begin depending on the government to protect us!


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Joe Davola
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You forgot, they also need to turn in the gold the firearms the firearms are meant to protect. /sarc

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:23 | Link to Comment reTARD
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MDB, you will also need to provide the information for where we need to line up to turn in our firearms.

As you know, when they need us to go to our FEMA camps, I suspect that they would need to bus or truck us in because we as a people are a helpless and extremely needy bunch. Hence we will need more than even directions in order to get us into the camps for food, re-education, etc.

See you in line... or in FEMA camp 5. ;-)

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:23 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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Fuckin' MDB, you gotta start using that /sarc thing, dude. People are starting to think you're serious. Nobody could be that big a tool, really, could they?


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment waviator
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Fixed it for ya

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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Is it ok to turn in our gold at the same time?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Diamond Jim
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I thought all guns were already confiscated in the People's Republic of NY

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 21:37 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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LOL...fuck off. That's my witty retort you your asinine post - whether it's a shit attempt at humor, some parody or sarcasm.

Just. Fuck. Off.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 00:35 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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you forgot to mention how Sandy has been multiplied by the massive number of Libertarians demanding free-markets and therefore Sandy is actually the eco-global free-market forces coming home to roost - so that voting Obamafascism is the only way to repair the damage. And let's not forget that at least we can turn to successful job-creator Bain capital & Romney for help too.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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As in Jewish American Princess?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:00 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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Tue, 10/30/2012 - 18:08 | Link to Comment waviator
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It is a mistake not to vote.

If everyone would vote for their gut choice instead of the lessor of two evils (which represent the same kleptocracy), then the media might wake from there slumber.

Write in Ron Paul, vote Gary Johnson, or Andrew Jackson. Don't just hide in your closet with your junk silver and hollow points.

We need to educate those that can be reached before the mayhem that we know is coming. The intellectual battle for America will be lost if we disengage and wait. Without helping others understand, we can expect our own Stalin/Mao/Chavez to save the day when the sheople are scared.

In other words, thanks Tylers

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:13 | Link to Comment in4mayshun
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If you vote Republican or Democrat, YOU ARE part of the problem.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment hazek
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If you vote, period, you are part of the problem.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment stirners_ghost
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There are two methods whereby masterful ambitious men may hold any population in a state of ordered subjectivity. The first and by far the most honorable method is through an irresistible and highly-trained standing army, ready to deploy anywhere; with mechanical precision at a telegraphic nod in order to lay down the Law at the cannon’s mouth and sweep away all dangerous opposition.

 The second and cheaper method is, first of all to inoculate those intended to be exploited with some poisonous political soporific, superstition, or theoria; something that operating insidiously, hypodermically, may render them laborious, meek, and tractable.

The latter plan has ever proved itself most effective because Aryan populations that would fight to the last gasp against undisguised military despotism may be induced to passively submit to any indignity or extortion, if their brains are first carefully soaked in some Abstract Lie.

-Ragnar Redbeard

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 20:52 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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There's an app for that. Diebold will vote on your behalf.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Deo vindice
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Choosing between the 2 candidates is like picking which method of dying one wishes to take - the quick or the slow.

But neither will be painless.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:49 | Link to Comment CPL
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Two shit sansdwiches, one with butter and the other with mayo.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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To have voted well is to have not voted at all.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 19:14 | Link to Comment ilovefreedom
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That's not true, one is a turd sandwich, the other is a douche!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 20:44 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Jimmy Tudeski: ...I would hate it more than mayonnaise

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:26 | Link to Comment Nobody For President
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My campaign is doing well - a real alternative!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Saro
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"You have selected . . . slow, and horrible."
"Good choice!"

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:48 | Link to Comment CPL
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They missed number 6.  Is there really anything worth approaching given the situation at hand that isn't a waste of time, money or energy.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:55 | Link to Comment JohnG
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It costs all three.  Energy to drive the truck, money for said energy, and time standing in line.

And in the end you get a fucking sticker, a drive back home (more time, money, energy) and four more years of the same shit.

It's just not worth any of the three, and I don't want the sticker.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:08 | Link to Comment's picture

I could walk half a block and be the only one in line. No muss, no fuss, no waiting. But I won't. What would be the point?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:19 | Link to Comment JohnG
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Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:49 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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If I lost my ass at Atlantic City, can I get a FEMA trailer?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:50 | Link to Comment CPL
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No, this time you get to camp.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:52 | Link to Comment redpill
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The weather is awfully nice at Gitmo this time of year, maybe he can get a transfer.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:49 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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At first I thought this was thought this was Friday humor video on Tuesday..then I watched it and realized this guy is serious...that confirmed my initial thought.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:05 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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It should have been presented as comedy.



Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:10 | Link to Comment's picture

Or tragedy.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:50 | Link to Comment surf0766
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Why if there is only 6 inches of water in the road  are people being carried out of their house.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:12 | Link to Comment's picture

Because they are very, very short.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:12 | Link to Comment CrimsonAvenger
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What, and use our own legs, like some kind of a sucker?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:51 | Link to Comment pods
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Has anyone noticed that all the Obamantion re-election ads only show his wife?

Not a good sign.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:53 | Link to Comment surf0766
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I don't know why she scares the bejeebus out of me just looking at her. I don't think I've seen that much hate on a face since Charles Manson.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Cheesy Bastard
Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment pods
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Yikes, if I saw that on a regular basis I'd bang dudes too.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Cheesy Bastard
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+1.  Lol

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 22:23 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Put some blood around her mouth and she would look like the perfect Goldmanite Vampire Squid.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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If people actually wanted to "vote well"......they'd wouldn't vote at all because they would (finally) acknowledge choices will both end up fucking you over.

BTW, Most Americans don't "Stop and Think" and "Assume the Worst".  They do the opposite...which is why I am here today complaining about why our country is fucked up.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:53 | Link to Comment blindman
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two links to help with the disposition matrix
regarding your vote.
Obama's Kill List Expands to Fascistic 'Disposition Matrix'
By Libbyliberal

ctober 29, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - Murder Inc. has got nothing on the West Wing.
romney, believe in america 1/2.
For a detailed explanation of how the Romney-Ryan tax plan is able to cut taxes by $5 trillion without exploding the deficit or requiring tax hikes on the middle class, simply click the button below.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:04 | Link to Comment JohnFrodo
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I really understand the plan now.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:59 | Link to Comment blindman
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here the missing link, the first one.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:55 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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50 choices for miss bimbo of the year, and we get 2 schmucks for president?

Kinda makes sense..

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:57 | Link to Comment fuu
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Not voting for Romney or Obama is a good start.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Arbysauce
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He's a Romney shill

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:58 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Doesn't Diebold recommend vote early, vote often?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:58 | Link to Comment freedogger
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Here's a better version of how to vote well:

"Write your candidate's name on the line labeled, "Write-In." Print clearly and legibly according to instructions on the ballot. If using a electronic voting machine, follow on-screen instructions to enter a write-in candidate's name. If your candidate's campaign has provided you with a sticker to place on paper ballots, affix the sticker carefully on the write-in line."

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment FubarNation
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I early voted by ordering a couple of Zastava PAP M92 PV AK47 Krinkov pistols.  Should be here by Nov. 6th.  I have an eerie feeling that Obama Benghazi is going to pull this one off.


Can you say 'Grandfathered in'?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment BLOTTO
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No such thing as voting when its run by a bunch of OCCULTISTS.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:05 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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And those who vote are a bunch of cultists.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Earth Ling
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Here are some ways to vote really well and to stick it to the "two" parties:

In solidly Blue States:

Tell all of our conservative friends and family who live in strongly Blue states to vote for Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. Don't waste a good vote on Romney in a state where he can't possibly win. Instead vote for a candidate and party that would get federal funding if it got to 5% of the vote.

In solidly Red States:

Tell all of our progressive friends and family who live in strongly Red states to vote for Jill Stein or Rocky Anderson or Gary Johnson. Don't waste a good vote on Obama in a state where he can't possibly win.  Instead vote for a candidate and party that would get federal funding if it got to 5% of the vote.

In Battleground States: (this probably only works with mail-in ballots unfortunately)

If you are a Republican who can't stand voting for Romney, find a Democrat who doesn't want to vote for Obama.  And if you are a Democrat who can't stand voting for Obama, find a Republican who doesn't want to vote for Romney. 

In each other's presence, each person votes for a 3rd party candidate (any will do) and does NOT vote for either the two lame ass parties.  Then take your ballots to the drop off and turn them in.


Fuck Obama and Fuck Romney, they're both crooks and liars and could give a flying fuck about the People or justice or peace.


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:16 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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Yes, we should vote for the third party candidates so they can receive federal funding... because that is what we need... is more federal funding.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:00 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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A good video showing this...

Obama supporters hate Obama policies because they think they are Romney's policies but they will still vote for him after being revealed that fact :

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:29 | Link to Comment's picture

Saw that. It was good, but the outcome would have been more interesting if he had documentation with which to solidify his point and his interviewee's shock.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Vooter
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Oh, fuck off. I'm not voting. Barack Obama, Mitt Romney and everyone else can SUCK MY BALLS. I'll do whatever they make me do at gunpoint, I.e., pay taxes. Other than that, FUCK OFF, AMERICA. I'm voting for President Gold and Vice President Silver...

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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ok, let me see here...

Joe A. Muppet is broke and tryin to just to feed his family and has no money to contribute to Asshole (a) or Asshole (b)...

The Puppet Masters contributing billions to both said Assholes which they end up controlling completely as it always has been...

yet, Joe A Muppets vote still counts in  the deomcratic farce which is the USA's illusory particaptory Deomcratic clap trap????????????



Im Kaiser Sousa and have a fucking brain and therefore  approve this mother fucking message......

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Cold Grub
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Gee, I should of watched this video before I vote for "W" the first and second time ?

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:06 | Link to Comment viahj
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Vote "None of the Above" 

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment t99williams
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Brewster's Millions?  Brilliant!


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:07 | Link to Comment janus
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here are some WAY more important clips.


pay attention when i'm talkin to ya,


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Verum
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You lost me at Stop And Think.  I don't know what he means by think.. o well i made it 3 minutes into the video, the longest my attention span could go for.  I'm just going to vote for the guy who says he'll give me a job.  Time for some DWTS!!!!!

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:22 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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It occurs to me that we can do what Obama did when he was a Senator: vote PRESENT.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:36 | Link to Comment hazek
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Yeah you slaves just go ahead and validate your master by picking one of them to rule over you, I on the other hand do not agree with being ruled by anyone without my explicit contractually aranged consent and therefor will not ever again vote in the charade that is the political process.


Oh and for all of you poor slaves that will vote for a master that will lose the election, I want you to watch this:

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment reTARD
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If you're going to do something, do it well.

So while you're in the voting booth praying for which overlord you prefer to reign over you, also make sure to do it well and do it on your knees with your head bowed down.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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States That Have a Statutory/Regulatory Scheme for Delaying Elections in Case of Emergency (7)

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 16:44 | Link to Comment NaN
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Attempting to avoid cognitive bias is an admirable goal; maybe the idea will take hold over the next 50 years.  

After all, it took 50 years for the field of medicine to completely buy into germ theory. 

In the meantime, voting strategically is a way to send a message. The question is what is more effective: 

  • Not voting (it only encourages them)
  • Voting for a third party (a bid for real change, not hair splitting)


Tue, 10/30/2012 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Voting for third parties is how Hitler came to power in Germany.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment Vooter
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"Not voting (it only encourages them)"

Who cares if it encourages them? I'm not voting because I DON'T CARE. I'm not trying to effect change--I'm just NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE SYSTEM (outside of paying taxes, because I don't feel like going to one of their jails). Get it? The United States of America is not important to me. I do, however, like this land, because I was born here, and I'm not leaving. So blow me.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:08 | Link to Comment anonnn
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George Seldes* view was: While all societies have leaders, in a failed society the
wrong persons are chosen and/or accepted to be the leaders; those wrong
leaders are more precisely the mis-leaders, as the prefix "mis-" aptly
denotes. This view of a basic problem, from which so many other problems
grow, got Seldes' attention and he postulated the brilliant handling of it.

How Do You Tell The Leaders From The Mis-leaders? Seldes found just one
answer to that question. He said so in a speech and I have a copy to hand;
it is from his 1953 book "Tell The Truth And Run" p.118-119, extracted below.

[BEGIN EXTRACT] "...Is there a simple way by which an intelligent but
confused people can test men and parties, a sure way? I do not know if I
have the right answer, but about Christmas time,1944, when Clifton Fadiman
for the Writers War Board asked me [among scores of others] to write a radio
address to the Germans [which our Army later broadcast to the civilian
population from transmitters along the front], I sent the following:

People of Germany:
I hear you say the same words today I heard on December 13, 1918,when I
marched into Coblenz with the First Division of the American Army.

You shouted then and you shout today: "Wir waren belogen und betrogen." You
cry out that you were "lied to" and "betrayed" by your leaders. In 1918 it
was the Kaiser and the Junkers who had fooled you into a commercial war;
today it is the Nazi crowd of politicians, cartel businessmen,
landowner-Junkers---practically the same outfit.

You had your eyes opened suddenly in November, 1918, when the men of the
fleet and a few labor leaders with their armbands reading "Arbeiter and
Soldaten Rat" [Workers and Soldiers Committees] came to the cities and
overthrew the monarchy, and you had your eyes opened the other day when from
the underground the real leaders of the people of Germany suddenly appeared
and overthrew Fascism.

I saw you in 1918 raise your fists to the sky and shout "Nie Wieder
Krieg"---"No more war". I hear you shout "no more war" today.

But I also hear someone who is not being carried away by the great elation
and the great emotion of this great day. I hear a man call out: "But we will
be betrayed again--and again-- unless we , the common people, find a way to
tell our friends from our enemies. How can we tell who are the real leaders,
who are the misleaders? Hitler promised us everything good. How can we tell
when false leaders arise and make promises?"

I think I can answer that. Let me ask you, first, what did Hitler do about
labor--about the labor unions? Remember, he never had the backing of labor.
He fought labor. He was anti-union.He had been a scab and a labor spy. And
the first thing he did when he seized power was to smash the unions by
confiscating union treasuries.

And Mussolini? He gave the people what he called a "Labor Charter". But it
was a slave charter.. He organized labor-management committees, but the
employers named the labor men on them as well as their own.

It is so in all Fascist countries. Labor is the bulwark of democracy. Labor
is the people. So this is your answer for the future: Judge and test every
man, every leader, by his words and actions regarding labor. If the Italian
people, who knew Mussolini was a labor-faker, and the German people, who
knew in 1922 that Hitler was a tramp who had never done honest work and
always hated the unions, had fought these two men on their labor records; if
they had gotten the middle class and the intellectuals and the liberals and
all anti-Fascists to work together, they would never have been betrayed.

There was a way of telling. The test was labor. And in the future, you
people of all nations, you can tell your true leaders fom the Fascists, or
the misleaders, by their record on labor. It is the only real test I know
of. And if you use it rightly you will have a democracy instead of
Fascism--and war--and death. [END EXTACT]



George Seldes was an American journalist of highest integrity and
credibility, as he wrote mostly from his own, actual observations an
experiences. He died about 10 years ago at age 104, in Vermont. For example,
he uniquely interviewed Gen.[later President] Paul von Hindenburg just after the WWl
Armistice [and was nearly shot for breaking US Army rules to do it]; he
learned firsthand and tried to break the story in the 1920' s of Benito
Mussolini's direct involvement in the murder of his popular rival Matteoti;
he broke virtually the whole, basic story just after WWll of the tobacco
industry's addiction and health debacle. And of course Seldes' works were
actively suppressed.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:22 | Link to Comment madddmaxxx
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I'm voting for Gary Johnson

I'm voting for status quo ( Obamney )

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Heyoka Bianco
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So who do I vote for in order to get everybody but me and 100 17-24 year old women flung into a gulag, and get all the "requisitioned stuff" delivered to my new private Isola di Orgy?

Wait, let's make that only 20 17-24 year old women.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 18:19 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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My 5 year old son initialted our first conversation about politics with me, out of the blue and unprompted, in the car just a couple days ago by asking me two questions:

1.  Daddy, who are you going to vote for?  I didn't bite.  Asked him who he would vote for instead and he proceeded to hit me with about the most rational, well-thought-out reasoning I have ever heard from a 5 year old (3 clear, solid reasons).  Better than some adults.  Better than MOST adults.  And not one single reason was "I like him better."  About the time I picked my jaw back up off the floormat he hits me with this.....

2.  Daddy, what is 'debt'?  I explained as best I could.  FIVE years old.  And worried about debt.  I never brought up the subject with him before.  He says he heard about it on TV.

So I finished up by asking him one:  "Would you like to be president someday?"  Naturally, he said yes.  I felt like telling him "Don't quit your day job, kid.  You're way too honest for that racket."

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 20:00 | Link to Comment indio007
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Undecideds are what tips elections.

Undecideds pick the last candidate's name they saw on the way to vote.

So basically I president it chosen by a collective random glance in one direction as opposed to another.

Tue, 10/30/2012 - 21:00 | Link to Comment Downtoolong
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Ever wonder why we have a two party system? It’s simple.

First, we can’t have just one party, or it wouldn’t be democracy. Even worse, there would be no contest, and no opportunity for candidates to run campaign advertisements with images of them wearing football jerseys to win your vote.

Second, there can’t be more than two parties. If there were, no one would ever be able to claim a true victory with a majority of popular or electoral votes. Even worse, it would be way too complicated for the average voter to decide and choose if there were more than two sides to the contest. Who ever heard of a football game with three or more teams playing at once? It’s absurd.

There you have it, which is precisely why I am voting for anyone but a major party candidate until one of those two steps up and really addresses the major problems facing the economy our country.

I don’t think the arrogance of the power elite can be summed up any better than their assumption that everyone will eventually fall in line with one of the two major parties.


Wed, 10/31/2012 - 01:23 | Link to Comment Bear
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Vote early, vote often

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