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New York Paralyzed As Subways Shut Down Indefinitely: Subway Chief: "Worst Disaster Ever"
As everyone who has been to New York City knows, without its underground arteries - the subway system - the city is if not dead, than certainly in an indefinite coma. By that logic, New York will not get out of the critical ward for many days, because hours ago the head of the New York City’s transit system just called Hurricane Sandy "the most devastating event to the city’s subway system ever." At last check seven subway tunnels under the East River had flooded, as did the Queens Midtown Tunnel—and Metropolitan Transit Authority chairman Joseph Lhota said there is “no firm timeline” for when the system would be back up and running. According to other MTA employees it would take between 14 hours and 4 days just to pump the water out of the subway system. We'll take the over. And as long as there are no subways, there are no clerical and support workers, there is no Wall Street, there is no beating heart to the city.
A summary of which subway lines are most susceptible to flooding via the NYT, and brief commentary:
Seven subway tunnels under the East River flooded, according to Joseph J. Lhota, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority chairman. A spokesman said it was unclear how long it would take to pump them out. The Long Island Rail Road erected a water dam at its West Side Yards to keep Penn Station and East River tunnels dry, but one tunnel had flooding, Mr. Lhota said. Metro North lost power on two of its lines north of 59th Street.
Instead of subway trains... water:
A representative (unverified) snapshot of what NY's subways looked like at the peak.
via @HeyVeronica
For some stunning footage of what will certainly be an epic struggle to regain control of New York's underground floods watch the clip below:
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i'll click for Bernank.
another poke in the eye for New Jersey ex-Governor, Jon Corzines, urban regeneration plans Biden & Bummer were so impressed with
Another disaster. Watch the theft excellerate as 9/11 also provided great cover for the kleptocrats and I am sure they won't let this opportunity go to waste.
That's for sure, I remember when Bumblefuck,TN "needed" a new fire truck that had a ladder that could reach high rise levels right after 9/11, or Shittsville, AR had to have equipment to make sure it had the materials to handle a radioactive materials. A lot of unnecessary spending..
Using a "beating heart" to describe Wall Street, is like using "humanitarian" to describe Corzine.
things will be back to normal quickly. 4 days is nothing, took much longer after 9/11 plus many people can now work from home..
and I am not more why more don't go into the trades. There is a critical need for electricians, iron workers, plumbers and such in the NYC metro area such that wages are comparatively high. sure beats working at a Home Depot in some backwater in the flyover part of the country..
Wages for Local 3 electricians in NY City: Base wage, $51.00 per hour, benefits $42.45 per hour. Time-and-a-half for all work over a 7 hour day and for all weekend and holiday work.
They dont have to start all the lines at once.. ie some will come back quickly others will take longer, they can provided buses to working stations from flooded ones.. ie I am sure their thinking latterally not all train lines must be up on the same day or nothing moves. Its media over dramatization. The deth toll is small.. theres some damage but its not massive and some underground train lines are flooded... umm big deal...It will be posative it will unleash a lot of insurance moeny that would otherwise sit idle..and never be spent..
Stocks should rally, tres might be pressures as its means increased Govt spending / issuance..
Great kneejerk analysis before any facts about the extent of the damage come in.
To "unleash" the money the insurance companies' more liquid investments, like stocks and bonds, must be sold.
Fuck it. No reason to rush back to work.
Perfect, Perfect, Perfect, When they turn the computers on all the money will be gone!
The real rat of NYC are hiding in their bunker in the Hamptons, the lessors will be days before power is one.
I'll bet the Hamptons will be the first to get power!
Pull the plug, her soul died a long time ago
Good..now they can get a dose of reality, and the fact that the rest of us can get by without the "world's financial center".
what a coincidence. great timing, nice play with weather.
Antiquated public transport nobbled by the inept public sectors mistakes on the sea wall defence
A shot in both feet, the Calamity Clown public sector strikes again
Stop Paying Taxes.. you don't have to put with this farce/shit
Patton: I want a prayer, a weather prayer.
Chaplain: A weather prayer sir?
Patton: Yes, let's see if you can't get God working with us on this thing.
Chaplain: It'll take a pretty thick rug for that kind of praying.
Patton: I don't care if it takes a flying carpet.
"there is no beating heart to the city."
The patient had cancer anyway. Let it die.
We need more QE. This is the perfect excuse. We must rebuild NYC before the shiftless hobos go all lord of the flies in the ruins.
Let's see them arrest someone right now for carry a +16 oz soda around.
New York is very salty right now, as are New Yorkers!!
..let's see how the Public Health & Safety micro-meddlers are on tiny holes in salt shakers after their comrades let slip an epic dosage with major holes in the salt water defences
Finally we can rest easy that these guys have been washed away. Or have they.....
http://youtu.be/WqDToaLuJ7I
And all this from a minimal hurricane.
Yes, a 1,000-mile wide hurricane joining forces with 2 other low-pressure systems is pretty minimal...
good to see marg brennan and her ample cleav back ota..
I wonder if the irony is lost on all the Wall Street bankers and politcians who put capitalism, capitalism, capitalism ahead of things such as healthcare and infrastructure that their greed for profit is now a major cause of the problems.
Should have spent some money on flood defences.
2 Things;
first off Wall Streeters are nothing to do with capitalism, they are propped up State subsidised bankrupt losers. It's called Socialism
second the reason healthcare and infrastructure are so shit is yet again the State is involved. The State monopoly on roads and infrastructure and public-private State subsidised healthcare are reason to privatise these rotten bankrupt antiquated systems and allow competition and the free market to operate ...the ONLY way of providing the best for the very least
this is another epic shambles for the Statists and yet more hard evidence if any is needed the State should be shuttered
Agreed on the sea defences, that's the pitiful job the State does of everything it touches
We may never agree on Apple/Google, but you're fucking spot on right here.
Thanks good man ...time will settle the other issue no matter how much banter, er, informed debate, passes between us in the interim
Clearly you've got no idea what capitalism means.
G-d dumps a 492,069,361,575,920,573 ounce drink on NYC.
Obama will give them the funds to rebuild and enough leftover so our lords continue to fly private while dining at le bernandin
Obama will give them the funds to rebuild and enough leftover so our lords continue to fly private while dining at le bernandin
Karma? This was NOT Karma. Or.. no stinkin' Black Swan. THIS...is all Bush's fault.
Well, at least the UBS employees won't be impacted.
How's the bankrupt US Postal service doing, anyone know?
They've banned any cash or metal coins through the post, probably not much use for them in NY anymore!
Thankfully Bubble Ben sends the Wall Streeters subsidies up a pipe from DC or they'd be totally cut-off from their drip-feed on Wall Street by a calamity cocktail of public service ineptitude. Lloyd and Jamie isolated in their ivory towers by crumbling Govt services.. socialism has its bleak moments
where are the rat pics?
here you go;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225132/Superstorm-Sandy-2012-Ne...
Found a few...
http://www.goldmansachs.com/who-we-are/leadership/executive-officers/index.html
Does the city have a contingency plan to deal with these rats before they infect the population with disease?
I see a Black Swan - I wonder if they can keep silver down.
I can just see Jamie Diamond watching silver rise screaming 'Turn the machines back on'
Apparently, there are reports that oil and gas from submerged cars and trucks is seeping out in the water.
That does not sound good at all. The one thing they do not need is extra fire fuel coating the streets when the water recedes.
"WORST DISASTER EVER" only means one thing.
= "SEND US TRUCK LOADS OF MONEY TO HELP US REPAIR OUR ALREADY FAILING, UNDERFUNDED (BY NON-NY TAX DOLLARS), DETERIORATING RAIL SYSTEM"
This should help them get the $20 billion they want from the FTA for State of Good Repair Grant Dollars.
Read this:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/new-yorks-subway-may-not-survive-irene/
Check the date, looks like someone has been asleep on the job as this is pretty much a known issue.
Mayor too busy banning supersize cola cups I guess.
The truth is it was a HAARP event. They had to remove all the gold before the German audit. Die Hard Bitches.
this is NYC
Not sure if all understand the manitude of this event. The NY city subway system is a closed mine type of underground excavation. IT DOES NOT DRAIN. like a bowl sumerged in sink, water will have to be evacuated. Hundreds of millions gallons of sea water (highly corrosive) will be there till pumped out. This is a knock-out punch for the city.
Nah, they just let it evaporate...
...should be comfortably dry by 2345AD
a knock-out punch? What, are they going to abandon the city and rebuild somewhere else? 4 days of pumping, then they can examine it and begin repairs. Is there any risk of the flooded tunnels affecting the foundations of the buildings on top?
Better than getting bombed into oblivion, don't ya think?
Oh, please--it's not a knockout punch for the city. We'll all get into work, one way or the other. We've done it through transit strikes and blackouts and after 9/11, and we'll do it again. Calm the fuck down...
List of Webcams storm Sandy
New York
SEE ALSO:
http://www.webcompact.net/index.php/news/51428-sandy-livecam-new-york
Picture Source Statue of Liberty Charging Bull Cam
Broadway and Bowling Green World Trade Center Cams Hudson River Park Cam Skyline View of Lower Manhattan Lower Manhattan
Skyline view - Wall Street area - Brooklyn Bridge
How much will it cost to rebuild the Subway system from scratch?
The tunnels are already there so it shouldn't be that much.
They could sell high profit munis to pay for it. S/off
They could tell the city's homeless that the power is off, and all the metal down there is scrap, free for the taking.
Shit will be down to bare walls in a week.
They don't need to rebuild the system from scratch. Most of the flooding is limited to the tunnels between Manhattan and Brooklyn--they need to drain the water, clean out the sludge, then check the equipment for corrosion. I'm sure that within a couple of days they'll open unaffected lines from the Bronx and Queens into Midtown, along with any Brooklyn lines that go over the bridges rather than through the tunnels. Most of us in the outer boroughs and Westchester and Long Island are just not going in, at least through today. This, too, shall pass...
Wall Street and it's financial scams are not the heart of New York. The city exists because of the deep sheltered harbor and clean water flowing from the Hudson and Mohawk valleys. Without those things it would be like, well, Newark, NJ.
It is still the artistic center of the Western world and arguably the whole world. The jerks downtown that ZH covers so well are warts on a great human endeavor.
I do love NYC, floods, warts and all!
NY was a natural deep water harbor 200 years ago, when ships drafted a lot less water. Now, just about all major harbors are artificially maintained at much greater depth through continual dredging.
"14 hours to 4 days...????
Now theres a real close estimate.
Well, I guess we've now figured out how to take down NYC. Just flood the place.
Is Kevin alright?
A flood won't clean out the Wall Street filth. Only honest prosecutions will.
Good exercise for the NYkers
That subway need a good clean-out anyway.
I'm sure the algos will pump the S&P to 1500 by the time all that water is pumped out.
"Those photos are "Over-Hyped"."
The wife and I are actually preparing for a move BACK to NYC in January.....military promotion/transfer.....been out in flyover since 2000.
I'm kinda hoping this will produce a temporary killshot to the rental market allowing us to get a fairer deal.
It will take some time but NYC will come back fine.....regardless of the wishes of some of you bitchez.
and will the traffic lights be working?
To avoid traffic logjams,
Maybe NYC will have to prohibit the single occupant private autos,
and put more public buses (even without charging fare?) to work.
Or is that too un-American?
They were in need of a wash-down.