2 Refineries, 3 Nuclear Sites, And 6.25 Million Residents Still Dark

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The US Department of Energy has just released their latest storm damage report for Sandy and it does not make for good reading. Over 50% of New Jersey residents remain without electricity and almost 2 million people in New York state alone. Port Reading (Hess) and Linden (Phillips) refineries remain shutdown (about 308,000 barrels per day or 26% capacity offline), and 3 nuclear sites (Salem, Indian Point, and Nine Mile Point) remain offline and many of the others are at dramatically lowered output (only 52% of capacity online!). Not good...



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Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:22 | 2934535 PUD
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Spanish dumptsers at full capacity though the lines are long.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:40 | 2935257 AldousHuxley
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let them have light!



Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:22 | 2934537 Bokkenrijder
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Welcome to the land of pre-historic above ground powerlines...

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:26 | 2934551 Rainman
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Anchored into the ground by half century old dead pine logs. What could go wrong ?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:39 | 2934609 mayhem_korner
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Surrounded by canopies of "old'growth" maples and other behemoth trees with 10' diameter trunks and woodpecker-heaven dead limbs dangling all around.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:04 | 2934697 CunnyFunt
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Pine? Try cedar.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:13 | 2934756 pemdas
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But Wall Street is open, so everything is OK, right?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:10 | 2935134 Zero Govt
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nope, that part of New York was declared stone cold dead in 2008 ...what you see now is merely going-through-the-motions zombie banks, the pretence they're still alive and kicking, with Dr Bernankenstein flicking QE switches to make his zombie corpses look live

Blankfein & Dimon are the walking dead, but it's amazing what sending trillions of electronic 10001000010001 down a telephone line can do to make you think they're really still in business

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:43 | 2935267 AldousHuxley
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money never sleeps....someone's printing somewhere...


Bank of Japan Announces Fresh Economic Stimulus


Wed, 10/31/2012 - 19:20 | 2935992 StychoKiller
Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:35 | 2934586 mckee
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That's a great idea! Spend $200 billion putting power lines underground to prevent a couple hundred million in lost electricity costs! And with that you get the added benefit that when an underground line is compromised your outage is 3 weeks instead of 2 days!

You must be in government?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:40 | 2934614 Bicycle Repairman
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Look on the bright side.  Peak oil has been set back a couple of days to April 23, 2130.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:47 | 2934648 Manthong
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On the other hand, we do have that important little bit of extra emergency refining capacity built up over the last few decades.

Oh, wait a miniute..


Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:15 | 2934765 Flakmeister
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You realize that the business plan was to import gasoline from european refiners operating at a loss.... I guess it is time for plan B).....

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:51 | 2934660 mckee
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i·ro·ny/??r?n?/   Noun: Getting negative feedback on Zero Hedge for pointing out economic fallacy and identifing associated unintended consequences.
Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:19 | 2934778 dark pools of soros
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that sounds very shovel ready

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:43 | 2934872 walküre
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Europe has everything underground and they don't have loss of power. Private enterprise made the decision eons ago in Europe to build to last.

In that regard, America is and always will be 2nd class. Our infrastructure is CRAP and sub-standard compared to Asia and Europe.

But lights at Golden Sucks never go out. That should give you a clue about the nation we live in.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:13 | 2934980 Flakmeister
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Yeah, those fucking socialists are always trying to make everyone else look bad....

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:18 | 2934996 mckee
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Europe only has about 50% of what they consider low/medium voltage lines underground and less than 5% of what is considered high voltage (only 356kv) is underground. They have the advantage of closer proximity to power sources  because of less "not in my backyard" opposition and less geography which mean lower voltages are required. The reactive power swings you would get from a 765kv underground line would be almost impossible to control and good luck burying one accross 500 miles of mountain (if you could get environmental approval to begin with).

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:21 | 2935007 Flakmeister
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One thing from personal experience, the poles are cast concrete not pine logs... A unintended benefit of having cut just about every fucking tree down in the past....

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 19:48 | 2936049 walküre
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The totem pole power grid in most American suburbs is garbage. That could all be underground decades ago. The overland lines are typically never affected from winds and broken trees because the power cos. cut all forest back 30 feet or more from the steel towers. Same in Europe. But where it matters is the delivery to the residential or commercial end consumer. That always fails as soon as winds pick up a bit. Stupid planning. 2nd world, 2nd rate, 2nd class. Now NY is jammed in traffic because everyone is driving their cars to get in/out of the city.

GOD FORBID the city would have had an emergency schedule and shut down all non-essential (retail for example) businesses. At least the markets are open. The all important markets. For heaven's sake, could the fucking bankers not have allowed a week off with pay to their employees to figure out how to cope with the disaster.

I'm so fucking disgusted at the mismanagement and the hubris of this country. We're worse than fucking China.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:36 | 2936374 dark pools of soros
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it's just a grab fest once the pinata explodes

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 18:26 | 2935868 dugorama
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this is all about short term thinking and not investing for the future.  if you're looking for a project for the new WPA / CCC, here's an idea.

actually the power line repair crews have to come out to the average city block, once a year due to storm damage.  and the buried lines need repair approximately never.  furthermore, the tree trimming crews come by once every other year and are exposed to very dangerous working conditions - almost 100 deaths / year (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5815a2.htm)


Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:25 | 2934545 Jason T
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ZH is the best for news ..screened relevent news.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:04 | 2934557 Sheikh Djibouti
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Scientists: Link between climate change and cyclones obscured by fog from melting glaciers

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:25 | 2934779 Real Estate Geek
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Factoids like that would probably have more impact if they were expressed in Mandarin. 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:37 | 2934845 Sheikh Djibouti
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Think tank: More flies caught with honey than with vinegar

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:08 | 2934728 Silver Garbage Man
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Yes, I wish they would pound the table a little harder on gold and silver manipulation (suppression)and the related consequences.
Otherwise it is a TOP KNOTCH site!

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:26 | 2934550 Dr. Engali
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That sucks...there are going to be some cold nights for people.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:40 | 2934615 Jason T
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We made the investment of a wood burning stove last year.. $3000 .. got it going right now about 5 ft behind me.. wood cost the same as last year .. $950 for 5 full cords delivered.  (that's a lot of wood) 

still have power but if didn't, this would be a life saver potentially..literally.


Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:52 | 2934663 john39
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UN agenda 21 would likely outlaw that stove, you know, to save the planet from global warming...  nothing to do with rendering the people powerless.  trust us- NWO.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:54 | 2934670 Dr. Engali
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That's good to hear. I hope that there are more people out there who are in as good a shape. I fear there are going to be a lot of miserable people over the next few days and possibly weeks.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:30 | 2934825 fonzannoon
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It's cold windy and rainy by me. Trees still stuck on power lines, no signs of work being done. Everyone is trying to pile in to whatever restaurants that are open because no one has power or the ability to refridgerate/warm up any food. Ironically all offices are open and many people are being told to go to work. I have family a few hours out of town with power. For me it will be the choice to head out. I feel bad for people who are stuck. Has Kito checked oin yet from Equador?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:56 | 2934909 Randall Cabot
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Eastern PA still has many without power, mine blinked about 20 times during the storm but never went out, lots of trees down, small branches all over the streets, bent signs and some damaged roofs and chimneys but no major flooding because there wasn't much rain for a hurricane in my area-there was a very strange period of about three hours as the eye was moving through just south of here when there was hardly any rain or wind at all.

Eastern Pennsylvania outage maps:






Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:15 | 2934982 Dr. Engali
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It's good to hear from you. I have been looking for a report from you Rsloane, and kito. I haven't seen anything from the other two yet. I'm glad to hear you have a place to go. I hope that more people do. Good luck.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:17 | 2934768 Silver Garbage Man
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You got it Jason ,I have more than enough wood in my garage for the winter. I don't have to rely on anyone else for my heat. That is very comforting. And it is by far the best heat. Trying to describe wood heat to someone is like trying to explain the 9 11 inside job,either you get it or you don't.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:46 | 2934891 walküre
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I just fell 5 mature Maples this summer. At the end of their lifespan which is about 50 years. Lots of lumber but I don't have time to chop it up. Wish I was closer and could deliver to you. Just out of curiousity, how big is a cord where you are? Seems that it makes a difference where you're at. In the NW we measure 4x4x8.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:56 | 2934674 Abiotic Oil
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People need to consider this.  I live up in the mountains and up until about 10 years ago it was standard issue to have a functional wood stove that could heat your whole house.  Minimum a functional fireplace.  Now all the McMansions have electric furnaces (some gas).  Had a power outage that lasted a measly two days last year in the dead of winter and it was a moment of clarity for these folks.  Can't really knock a hole in the roof and light a fire in the middle of the kitchen.  It can easily get -20 or colder here without windchill.

Had a week long outage here back in the '90's and with the wood stove it was a breeze.  Heating and cooking with the stove and hand power over ride on the well.  Generator for the freezer, or just throw the food outside and save the gas.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:32 | 2934833 fonzannoon
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I have a wood fireplace bitchez.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:39 | 2934854 fuu
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Do you have gas and lights yet?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:08 | 2934967 fonzannoon
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Nothing. No power. I may head out tonight and head a few hundred miles south. F this.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:16 | 2934990 fuu
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Good luck.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:48 | 2934900 walküre
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That's the ticket. Wood stove is even better as you can cook on it. The heat from wood is unmatched by anything else imo. Gas is cheap but electric heating is for dummies.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 19:26 | 2936000 StychoKiller
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"She goin' like, she goin' like -- Propane!"

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:27 | 2934553 zapdude
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Minor point, but the Port Reading Hess site is not a full refinery anymore -- most of it was shut down years ago. 

They're basically just running an FCC to make gasoline (with auxillary units & tanks), and importing VGO feedstocks.

The COP/Phillips 66 Linden plant is under duress and will likely permanantly shutdown in the continuing trend of Atlantic Basin refinery closures.  Maybe Marcellus liquids will save Linden, maybe not...

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:28 | 2934554 lolmao500
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Meh. Karma is a bitch for those statists.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 14:29 | 2935202 Zero Govt
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the millions of sheeple dependent on State (subsidised) transport are certainly fucked

those with cars have options, as per a poster above, getting out of a New York wrecked by the Govt of New York and heading south

the Hollywood disaster movies are absolute bollocks, the Govt and your benign President won't save you, in fact from every angle they'll probably stick a spanner in the works

politicians couldn't organise a piss-up in a Vodka distillery ...look after yourself 

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:30 | 2934560 mayhem_korner
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Friend of mine (NJ) was all excited that he got a generator on 2 days notice.  'course, now his 2-gallon gas can is out and he can't find an open gas station without a 4 hour line.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:41 | 2934621 Bicycle Repairman
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LOL.  He didn't see that coming.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 13:43 | 2935071 Fíréan
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Stand alone wind-turbine, it's a breeze, the more wind the more power, can be easily shut down when wind is too much. Not meaning the large blades up avertical  pole windmill type, but the  horizontal barrel shaped with vanes around the edge.

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