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Dumpster Diving In The Lower East Side

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When one thinks of dumpster diving in the "developed world", one usually starts with Greece, and ends with Spain (where this activity has been so pervasive, lately even the dumpsters have been on lock down). Certainly, Manhattan's Lower East Side is not one of the places that immediately comes to mind. Sadly, now that the city's more Bohmeian neighborhood has been without power and food for 3 days running, and the prospect of electricity being restored is still dim, the local residents have no choice but to do what their insolvent peers from across the Atlantic do every day (even as the capital markets fool themselves that all is well because Draghi said so). For a candid look at how the other part of Manhattan lives now, watch the clip below.

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Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:54 | 2938849 Zer0head
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That's from 2005 New Orleans, right?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:01 | 2938879 Sancho Ponzi
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But the Red Cross said they don't want my food donations, they just want my cash.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:13 | 2938912 redpill
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Haven't these folks ever heard of an emergency kit?


Keep making fun of the preppers and enjoy your maggots.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:24 | 2938951 Zap Powerz
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I live on high ground, have lots of food storage and my own source of water.

Fuck these stupid people and their inability to plan and see danger in their environment.

What the fuck ever happened to natual selection?!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:29 | 2938966's picture

Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:50 | 2939025 krispkritter
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Kudos to all those on here who said we were going to become Spain/Greece.

Can you imagine if the EBT processing capacity was offline for a month? Two?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:57 | 2939047 malikai
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I used to do a bit of dumpster diving back in the day. Wasn't looking for food, clothing, or furniture, though. Heh..

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:04 | 2939070 Rathmullan
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Is that blankfein in the hoodie?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:21 | 2939417 TwoShortPlanks
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So long as people have an iPhone and can keep it charged (fuck calling people, it's all about posting updates on Facebook), then nothing else matters, even Dumpster Diving is a-okay!

Their idea of an emergency kit is having a spare USB recharge cable.

Think about nappies. Disposable nappies will soon be gone and how ya gonna wash reusable? Outside?

Urbanization, fail.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 21:07 | 2939526 economics9698
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If you are on a limited budget you can get the restaurant cans at Sam’s or Costco that hold 100 to 120 ounces that cost about $5 a can.  You can get fruit, vitamin C, beans, chili, and the essentials.  Make sure to get the vitamin C, pinnacle chunks, along with the beans, chili. 

Guns, get a pistol, 22LR (A MUST), a regular rifle for killing game or people, 30-06 with a scope, and a shotgun.  If you can get a AR-15 or AK-47 get one.

Generator, window air conditioner, candles, bla, bla…

What you will miss most, hands down, is air conditioning.  Get a siphoning tube from the hardware store so you do not have to suck gas out of your car the old fashion way.  Generators are inefficient.  If you got the money get a solar generator.


This should be apparent, lots of bottled water in storage.  It’s cheap, buy it.




Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:53 | 2939866 aerojet
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The loons are out tonight!  Almost nobody in NYC has a gun of any kind except for the cops.  We've been over and over this.  For the outlying areas such as Long Island and NJ, you have a bit more choice, but not much. 

There's no need for A/C there right now, it is November!

Have you even tried to siphon gasoline from a late model car?  You can't do it. 

A solar generator, really?  You're just about the stupidest prepper on the planet.  Nothing solar that is small can produce enough current to do much of anything useful.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 23:46 | 2940017 Oh regional Indian
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Brother Economicusser676869 is quite challenged overall. He believes the way to right a wrong is commit an even bigger wrong.

A couple of days ago, he suggested genociding Indians (the India kind).

I think you can safely ignore Brother Economicusser.

He is what is known as Genus Douches Dipshitterus. Marked for extinction.


Fri, 11/02/2012 - 00:39 | 2940059 economics9698
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I guess next time I should note that I live in Florida.  That being said if I lived in NYC I would have a gun.  Figure out the law and get some guns.  You people are idiots if you do not have some.  Most of the NYC readers are above 100 IQ and can figure out the NYC gun laws.  ZH readers are the best as far as figuring out how to do shit.

Substitute heater for air conditioner.

Oh and uh I have been through four hurricanes without power.  I know a little bit of what I speak of.

When the lights go out the shit can hit the fan.

As for the Indians can you please send the ladies over here and leave the guys back home?  We could use a lot of those Nargis Farkhri types.  Yea send over 100,000 Nargis Farkhri’s to the USA and put it on my tab.  Do that and it’s all good my friend. 

One more thing ZH’ers Copenhagen is gold in a crisis.  A fresh can will get you a 1.75 bottle of JD in a crisis.


Fri, 11/02/2012 - 01:19 | 2940115 Oh regional Indian
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Not surprised to hear a dickhead respond with his dickbrain.

I rest my case. You typify what is wrong with america and why it's a pimp and ho nation.

Internets Tough guy with boxer avatar.

Nargis would tell your tasteless, skinny white ass to Fuckhri off. You've probably paid too many poor oriental women with your inflated dollars and think they actually rove you rong time.


Fri, 11/02/2012 - 07:37 | 2940434 economics9698
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Fuck off third world monkey.  Burn some candles in the wind and worship some twigs and trees.  Don't fucking waste your time with me asshole.  You are a idiot.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 07:47 | 2940443 Oh regional Indian
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Poor angry little genocidal prick you are. Shame on you, overall.

And by the way, that would be "an" idiot. Can't even write/type/think straight. One step up from a goon/ape yourself. I should dig up and quote your "Let's kill al the other Indians" comment.

Never knew Florida had apes.


Fri, 11/02/2012 - 07:59 | 2940455 economics9698
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I was not being specific using a instead of an.  There are many idiots in the world and you would qualify as more than one type of idiot.  Third world monkey go away.  

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 04:39 | 2940255 Cosimo de Medici
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Sorry, Nargis can't come today.  She's fasting all day---no food or water---until she sees the moon tonight.  Hope it's not cloudy!

It's a cultural thing,  Women subservient to the men.  They even have to do a little dance around him, the fat guy eating and drinking to his fart's content in front of her, to show her "respect".  Karaka Chaturthi is the name.  Originally it was a female bonding holiday, but the men usurped it and made it just another day of submission.

There is no similar holiday where the roles are reversed.  Only those of the gender who barely escaped being named "unwanted" at birth, and who now, owing to technological advancement, are selectively aborted at the foetal stage rather than being suffocated or starved after birth, have that role to fill.

In lieu of flowers, send a full size mirror for our Indian friend on ZH, whose name will soon be changed to OriNonymous. akak please take note.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 04:50 | 2940299 AnAnonymous
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Subserviency of women? Ummmm, people wishing for that one should look for 'americanism', best thing to provide that kind of wishes.

Not only women are subservient to men in 'american' societies, but women are also subservient to women.

So much better.

This is 'americanism' and this is progress.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 05:42 | 2940327 Oh regional Indian
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Cosmo th ebrain surgeon. Digging up facts he knows nothing about to denigrate a place he's never visited (or perhaps a  a two-wrist at best).

The state and status of women in the US/UK/Oz is pathetic at best, shameful too. Children are sexualized, just check Craigslist for how many wone are selling themselves. Highest divorce rates anywhere in the world, prozac nations all.

Cosmo, you need a long hard look at the mirror my un-friend, warts and all.

I'm sure you and Ecomicus DIpshitterus can fondle each others guns till armageddon comes. BEtter yet, you can perhaps do the world a favoUr and do some brain surgery on him?

I think my 12 years in the US, east and west, north and south, rich and dirt poor, give  me an excellent basis for comment.

Do tell us of your extensive indian experiences? With a pompous handle like that, you're probably a liar anyways.



Fri, 11/02/2012 - 09:12 | 2940651 Cosimo de Medici
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Writing from your hometown, fella.  (I do volunteer work here from time to time...many years now.)  Got an earful today from Indian women pissed off at the misogyny and Eve Teasing that epitomizes this society, plus the male driven nonsense that drives today's "holiday".  Tyler says the decorative Zerohedge Bathroom Mirror is on order.  Don't be shocked at what it shows you.

Seems you've got quite the glass jaw.  Your like to take jabs at others, but a light tap on the chin sends you to the canvass like a giant mo-mo.  It's going to take you a couple thousand reincarnations just to put a dent in all the crap you need to clean up at home.  Only then you might have time to take on the US.


Fri, 11/02/2012 - 09:30 | 2940783 Oh regional Indian
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Holy shit! With do gooders like you around, any wonder why this country is screwed. 

But if it's true, what you say, challenge you to get in touch.

my contact info here:

We'll see about that glass jaw then, shall we? My intentions are entirely peaceful.




And for some perspective, read this:

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 09:43 | 2940829 awakening
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It may very well be that the raising rates of divorce is also due to women being on a more equal footing today than previously in the history of Western Society.

As for your 12 years experience of Western Society; given the constant b*tching about other users (obvious troll is obvious), I think you may very well have wasted the entire time with your head shoved up your ar*e given how 'helpful' your commentary has been around here (MDB and AnAnonymous are much better reading in comparison). It is easy to b**ch about others (especially behind a keyboard) but quite another to actually post something that is worth the time reading (as I have on many occasions, not just on ZH).

Further; India is not the beacon of light you make it out to be either (reliable electricity still a problem?: ) and has its fair share of problems (hint: your not the first Indian I've met with a chip on their shoulder) so I'd recommend practicing your own advice with regards to the use of mirrors before casting anymore stones from glass houses.

Here's to hoping you waste more time writing a reply than I did on this one.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 09:54 | 2940891 Oh regional Indian
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hmmm, India as a beacon of light? Haaaha! Too funny. It's a shit hole in every sense.

Here is what I wrote about it 2 years ago:


You need to open your eyes a tad. The truth si everywhere, hidden in plain sight. We are all screwed by the same lot. Here and there. 



Thu, 11/01/2012 - 23:00 | 2939892 jez
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Man, I loves me some autospelling "pinnacle chunks".

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:19 | 2939109 MachoMan
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I guess that's better than hoggin...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 05:29 | 2940329 giggler123
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Ofcourse the "I'm alright Jack" attitude is the very thing that killed the country as its mandatory for bankers.  So today you're the 1% but look out the window at the 99% who don't have what you've got - you scared yet?  You should be.  I'd bet when push comes to shove, you have not got enouth ammo to protect it.  It's the same thing, be it piles of money or piles of food and water.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:44 | 2938980 CPL
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Wait until cholera hits because of a lack of water processing.


Please note that nobody has talked about the water processing anything in this situation and NJ looks like a bomb hit it.  If you are in NYC please boil water before drinking it.  You have to boil it for at least ten minutes to kill everything in it.  For good measure a tea spoon of bleach every ten gallons if you need to store the water.  And you will need to store it judging by the complete cluster fuck this has become on the engineering level.  


Everyone is in charge.  If you don't understand that...again "Everyone" is in charge.  SO expect nothing from anyone from the corp to the city.  Nobody follows a plan and they are all panicking because politicians are saying some really stupid things right now to soothe people.


Which means you should place to be right now is not in NYC.  Visit family.  Go somewhere else.  Visit New Brunswick.  It's cheap, people are nice and the beer is cold.  A good place to wait.  And there is food.


You can use puddle water, any water, except sea water (water water everywhere and not a drop to drink) btw

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:57 | 2939045 krispkritter
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I wouldn't be using any open water source for anything except flushing a toilet. Bleach and boiling don't do squat for floating shit, diesel, gas, anti-freeze, etc.

I'd drink, cook, or brush with nothing but potable brought in by truck or bottled that hasn't been submerged.

All these assholes walking around in flip flops in knee-deep water only have to cut themselves once in the shit-infested water to start the mother-of-all-infections. Every year I see people tossing their kids outside to 'play in the water' that's flooding the streets here in FL. What a bunch of irresponsible and dangerous 'parents'. Might as well toss the kid into an alligator farm and say 'Have fun!'.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:14 | 2939078 hedgeless_horseman
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Item 5

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:31 | 2939153 Skateboarder
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Katadyn > MSR for water filters. I prefer the ones that have the Nalgene attachment so that you can just pump directly into the water bottle. Nalgenes are an important investment too.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:55 | 2939877 aerojet
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Ah, yes, the yuppie canteen.  Gotta have that.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:52 | 2939226 blunderdog
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The lifesaver bottles/jerrycans are a better value, but any option is far better than being unprepared.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:27 | 2939307 Smiddywesson
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Got that one.  Good call.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:33 | 2939326 TheFourthStooge-ing
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HH makes an important point: you'll be dying soon without clean water.

If you don't have one of the Katadyn pocket water filters or something similar, you shouldn't be stacking any more of anything until you get one.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:52 | 2939365 Bawneee Fwank
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lifestraw!...thing is like 30 bucks

Q1. What is LifeStraw? LifeStraw is a portable water purification tool that cleanses surface water and makes it safe for human consumption. It is just 25 cm long and 29 mm in diameter and can be hung around the neck. LifeStraw requires no electrical power or spare parts.

Q2. What does LifeStraw do? LifeStraw filters up to 700 litres of water and effectively removes most of the micro organisms responsible for causing waterborne diseases.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 21:07 | 2939561 knukles
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New and Improved acts as stand by penis pump!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:14 | 2939096 reading
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You didn't even have a chance to get to the rodent-borne diseases waiting to be spread.  Does anyone really contemplate where all those rats went that were in the tunnels and everywhere else where the water is.  One guess, they swam, climbed and ran their way to higher ground.  1000's of pounds of untended garbage will keep them right there and ready to pass on disease.  It is a real problem. 

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:46 | 2939203 CPL
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If that's all you have at hand, better that instead of dying in three days.

...right now there is still pressure in the pipes, but as more people turn on faucets and release pressure from the system, that's where the energy systems that have been under salt water fed by copper cables get turned on and people pray it holds until a replacement.

Power substations don't have a 1/10th the explosive force as water pump under pressure does and it's a energy problme of scale.  Water pumps for a single city block draws enough power to run a town of 10000 people for a day alone.  It needs a lot of power, and redundancy to even start safely.  And the majority of what you see street level goes down into the earth a good 50 feet with lots of ventilation systems that more than likely leaked thousands of gallons in and around the pumps.  The pumps being used now are the portable diesel rig the US Corp brought in.  They don't dare turn on those pumps.

More of them down in the city core.  The problem scaled systems is balance.  Too much.  Boom.  Eight blocks gone.  Too little.  no pressure.  And it would take weeks to get the air out of the system.  To do that you need energy sources that don't surge, spark or explode and pipes that are clear.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:29 | 2938965 Smiddywesson
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LOL!  Yeah, those silly preppers, sitting in their basements watching DVDs off their generator and slurping down some canned chow and emergency beer, sure are a bunch of freaks.

 Opinions go out the window when you go in the dumpster.

These deluded idiots would, of course, form a new alternate reality to justify taking  your food away from you. 

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:33 | 2938979 redpill
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Molon labe :)

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:10 | 2939085 zapdude
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'You came for my food, but I will give you lead.'


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:51 | 2939506 Mactheknife
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Reminds me of a cartoon I saw yesterday.  Two dinosaurs sitting on a big rock in the pouring rain watching Noah's Ark sail is looking at the other and says "Damn, was that today?"

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:41 | 2939001 drink or die
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They laugh at you when times are good, and when times are tough they hate you for "hoarding".  Best they never find out what you have.  ;)

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:18 | 2939016 akak
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The center-thinking of the typical conformist sheep is nothing new --- Aesop's 2300+ year-old fable about the ant and the grasshopper comes to mind here.

And as regards the "evil" of "hoarding", do you think that it is any coincidence at all that Television Voice #132 in Defense of the Establishment Powers, er, the National Geographic Channel, continually runs a series highlighting and demonizing "Hoarders" (the actual name of the program), portraying them all as either fringe kooks or, more usually, outright mentally ill?  (That is, when they are not equally demonizing gun owners, "doomsday" preppers, marijuana growers and users, or else praising our "noble" law-enforcement agencies.)

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:33 | 2939323 Smiddywesson
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And they will always choose their quotes to make those kooky preppers look like misfits.

Well, times change.  You know who preps?  The Mormons prep.  And you know who may be president soon?  

Welcome to the new normal as the ship sinks.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:43 | 2939350 PowerzThatB
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Does this mean there will be white 5 gallon buckets in the WH along with boxes of MRE's? 

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:00 | 2939704 Hi Ho Silver
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I seem to recall they recently completed the expansion of the underground bunker at the WH.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 06:57 | 2940392 Miss Expectations
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I think what they built was Obama's man cave and drone deployment center.  O got tired of going upstairs and making lists.  Too pansy ass, even for him.  Now he can go downstairs when he gets tired of Michelle's bitching, take a seat in his new Dr. Evil inspired swivel chair, pull up to the the console and kill people half a world away.  Good times.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 23:01 | 2939895 aerojet
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The whole prepping thing becomes a psychological problem for many people--they are hoarders in a slightly neater fashion, but hoards nontheless.  Mormons are wack-jobs, btw.  I've known a few.  They're always nice people, but also always bent in a way that isn't easy to discern.  Weirdos.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:15 | 2939098 XitSam
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If you buy extra of usable supplies or food during a time when it is easily available, it is not hoarding.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:38 | 2939175 akak
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"Hoarding" is whatever the government choses to define it as.

But in essence, it amounts to "We want what you got and we gonna take it".

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:09 | 2939268 XitSam
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"You can see I ain't got much Mr. Gubamint man. Go ahead, look fer yerself."

Off-site caches. Even a remote spot in a National Park, Concrete Canvas shelter, not too close to water (mosquitos). Plant stuff for the climate that will come up next year without tending, potatoes are good most places. Permaculture stuff. Country boy can survive.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:49 | 2939024 Skateboarder
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As goes with status quoers, it's always about my shit being mine... until my shit is no more. Then it's all about your shit being ours because it's only fair that everyone share.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:00 | 2939053 redpill
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An affliction often times referred to as "Terminal Myopia"

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:19 | 2939112 XitSam
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"... I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody." --Barack Obama 2008

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:55 | 2939501 Revert_Back_to_...
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Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

Adam Smith had it right in Wealth of Nations.  Leave the farmers alone or even help them.  Maybe tell them thank you.

Excess food production is the basis of all prosperity and society. 

If everyone has to spend time just growing food, hunting and surviving, you don't have time for anything else (arts, science, bitching about things on ZH, etc).


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:55 | 2939042 Chuck Walla
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They didn't even think to stockpile some water? You know the news guy wants to get right in there with them. he's hungy, too. Me? I'd kill and eat him if I was that hungry.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:02 | 2939247 Overfed
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I'm thinking (hoping) that all of these TV shows designed to make preppers look ridiculous or dangerous are suddenly going to get taken a whole bunch more seriously now.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:29 | 2939448 freedogger
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Still watching TV is another problem.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:31 | 2939805 SmallerGovNow2
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Should have seen the warning after katrina, that was the final straw for me...

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:15 | 2939420 Oleander
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They were told to prepare. Instead they held hurricane parties and bought vodka. They should have listened.  I would have taken my kids far from there. I cannot feel sorry for them.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 09:40 | 2940833 ONO47
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No. 10 can of Mountain House Freeze Dried Beef Stew (approx. 10 servings) $35.49.

For about $110, a family of four would not have to dumpster dive  for dinner for over a week.  

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:13 | 2938916 Kitler
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It saves them the additional effort of having to sell the food.

Christmas is bonus time you know.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:12 | 2938917 camaro68ss
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Shit is going to get real in the next day or two when hunger sets in....

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:25 | 2938953 Zap Powerz
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There are some fat motherfuckers in NYC.  Let them eat those people first.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:21 | 2939295 Essential Nexus
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That'll be Bloomberg's emergency response.  Send him an email.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 10:26 | 2941006 ONO47
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I bet that would cut down on SSI payments. A well planned menu could take a big bite out of the unfunded liabilities.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:51 | 2939031 CPL
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That's just the humans.  And when the population of NYC is completeing with the rats for their source of food...


There are 1.5 billion three foot long rats in that city with teeth that can cut through bone and cable like butter that aren't worried about food.  There's a moving feast on the street.  While not known to pack hunt there are occassional articles I get out of places like Hong Kong where the rats are so hungry they swarm a person like a piranha.  Death by a thousand bites.  If you don't bleed to death, the diseases should finish the job.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:47 | 2939357 Smiddywesson
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Relax, you are a primate.  There's not a rat in the history of the world that could take you on, and they are too smart to try to swarm a healthy person.  Now, if you are a burned out old drunk or a baby, maybe you are not so safe if they are desperate, but that's a different story.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:08 | 2939405 CPL
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It's a city with 8 million people and yes people have kids in NYC.  It a deep secret hidden from the world that there are families there, lots of families.  It's not all posh and upscale.  It's just expensive.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 23:44 | 2940014 Raymond K Hessel
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Wow.  8 million.  1.5 billion.  You did all that counting and I didn't even see your lips move, you didn't even use a paper and pencil.  Wow.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:09 | 2939406 Ident 7777 economy
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+1 for primates.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 23:13 | 2939927's picture

Willard was a primate.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:16 | 2939101 reading
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It's a bit more than a few days in NYC...they can walk the 30 blocks to the "other side" for food as of now.  Frankly, anyone complaining as of now better be incapacitated because any one else could simply walk to get food, water, etc.  Sure it sucks but it can be done...for now.  

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:13 | 2938919 SWRichmond
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My god, the "restaurants and bodegas are closed"; what are they going to do?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:34 | 2938986 CPL
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Lose weight, get healthier...if it goes on long enough they die.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:05 | 2939722 Hi Ho Silver
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Smoke crack.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:26 | 2938958 ShrNfr
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Well, they gotta pay their upper management. That is the only reason they exist as near as I can figure. I donate elsewhere.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:30 | 2938969 vintageyz
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Exactly!  Where is that MSNBC douche bag who criticized Romney for collecting real donations now?  Standing behind the old ladies trying to get an old croissant?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:54 | 2939041 Flounder
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That is a Red Cross distribution center.  See the system does work and its worth paying the Red Cross CEO a salary and signing bonus in excess of $500k.  Pls send the Red Cross mo money.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:10 | 2939082 SokPOTUS
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Obama hates Manhattan people.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 23:14 | 2939930's picture

Kayne East Village, right?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:54 | 2938854 hedgeless_horseman
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Item 6

Purchase the items on the following shopping list to outfit your home.

· 5,000 rounds ammo for training; $2,500.

· Purchase and install Door Jamb Armor and dead bolts on all your exterior doors; $1,000 for 4 doors.

· A bullet proof vest; $500.

· Install a professional alarm system, or better if you live in the country get a big dog and have you both protection trained; $50/month.

· 12 months of food storage (2,400 cal/day) with > 20 year shelf life ;$4,500.

· If you have well water get a SimplePump. If you rely on city/municipal water, and there is not a swimming pool in your backyard, then get at least one waterbed; $1,000.

· A hand-crank emergency radio and a couple of hand-crank flashlights; $50.

· Purchase and store several cases of liquor; $500.

· If it gets cold where you live, then purchase

o A mummy style sleeping bag like a Wiggies; $250.

o At least one set of heavy wool pants and wool parka, such as Columbia's Gallatin Range ; $350.

o A pair of warm boots, wool socks, warm gloves, and a wool hat; $350.

o Two sets of Patagonia long underwear; $120.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:55 | 2938864 francis_sawyer
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Can I go overbudget on the booze?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:03 | 2938893 Sancho Ponzi
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You can fill your waterbed with it

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:12 | 2938918 redpill
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I'd rather get hammered and sleep on the floor

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:16 | 2938930 The Gooch
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Carhartt bibs instead of $350 Columbias affords more whiskey. 

bibs, check.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:21 | 2938940 hedgeless_horseman
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Carhardt is cotton. 

Cotton kills (when wet). 

Wool will still insulate when wet.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:22 | 2938946 The Gooch
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So will whiskey. :)

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:32 | 2938978's picture

When all else fails there's always the Corbomite Maneuver.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:30 | 2939148 ZeroAvatar
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Is that like the HimmelSchmidt manuever?  'Cause I almost got SUED trying to pop a piece of food outta someone's throat!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:53 | 2939228's picture

In the 23rd century we just knock back a few glasses of tranya. It keeps us well lubricated.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:23 | 2938947 Mark Carney
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LOL you been to Edmonton, it can get to -40C.  at that point it would be ok to die by cold, it would be peaceful....but then again I look out my office right now and see snow falling, but no hurricane..choose your poison I guess



If it gets cold where you live, then purchase

o A mummy style sleeping bag like a Wiggies; $250.

o At least one set of heavy wool pants and wool

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:02 | 2939023 hedgeless_horseman
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LOL you been to Edmonton, it can get to -40C. at that point it would be ok to die by cold

From Wiggy's website:

A -60 degree bag. I believe the Antarctic model is the only -60 degree bag made in the world. The loft averages 10 inches, and the weight for a regular length, wide body model is 6.5 pounds. The long wide body weighs 7 pounds. Adding the Flexible Temperature Range Sleep System (FTRSS) brings the temperature range down to -80.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:29 | 2939145 Matt
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You are screwed. If there is an emergency, better party it up and go out with a bang. I assume you cannot have a wood stove within city limits for smoke. Maybe you could get by with a pellet stove, if you can get one that doesn't need an external electrical supply. If all else fails, you could try burning bitumin. 

Wait, somehow Inuit survive further north?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:33 | 2938982 Urban Redneck
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itchez are for bitchez...

but google is your friend (Surplus WOOL Pants)


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:35 | 2938988 JuliaS
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Note to self: "No smoking in bed."

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:04 | 2938895 CPL
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$100-250 (shit to mid grade) for an ounce of weed.  $400 for fancy brands

$500 for cigarettes

Good trading material.  Two things that can be found everywhere and people understand the currency of.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:01 | 2939059 Skateboarder
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One nug is a very understandable unit of currency - intuitive, almost.

Long pipes and bongs too. You never know how valuable of a trade a simple glass pipe can be.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:34 | 2939162 ZeroAvatar
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I wondered how long it would be for you Zombie Dopers to chime in.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:46 | 2939202 Skateboarder
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Sorry it took a while. We were busy getting... snacks... cuz we're kinda... *spaces out*

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:33 | 2939464 Jendrzejczyk
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So you take shots of booze and we'll do an equal number of hits. No time limit. Guess who dies first?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:36 | 2939167 robertocarlos
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In my city the govt hands out crack pipes for free. As many as you want. Not kidding.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 14:56 | 2944591 monad
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Barter is good.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:50 | 2939009 Revert_Back_to_...
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EverClear Grain 190 proof - 2012.

Excellent Year.

Also may be used (and probably should be used) as cooking fuel.

Not available in some areas of the USA.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:04 | 2939068 malikai
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Yea that's a pretty damn good disinfectant as well.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:52 | 2939030 Zap Powerz
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I would question your intelligence and your manhood if you didnt go over budget on the booze.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 21:13 | 2939579 Renewable Life
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Where you are getting bullets at 50 cents a piece, I would love to know?????

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:06 | 2938872 fuu
fuu's picture 100 gallon storage for $30.

Don't forget about factory seconds for your clothing gear from somewhere like:

Full price name brands are expensive.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:55 | 2938974 Revert_Back_to_...
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Your traditional gas or electric water heater tank also has 30-50 gallons of water that you can use in an emergency.  They have a drainage valve at the bottom.  If you replace your hot water heater, it is worth getting one with a quality drain valve.  On the cheaper tanks, they are made of plastic. The more expensive tanks have brass valves. You would obviously want to shut off gas or electric to it before draining the water out of it.  Read the manual that comes with it for other safety precautions regarding pilot lites, etc.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:59 | 2938877 zapdude
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While I've deviated from your recommended selections on some items (due to budget, preferences), this is by far the best preparation list I've seen on ZH.  I'm sure I can speak for others when I say thanks for sharing your practical wisdom, especially for us relatively new to the awakening.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:20 | 2938935 edifice
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Though it is recommended by the kook Alex Jones, I've found eFoods Direct's product to be quite good. They did just raise prices, however:

or, ready-to-eat (if you're not into preparing and cooking):

And, a good place for ammo:

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:28 | 2938964 ShrNfr
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Reload your own and save your brass. It isn't hard to use a Dillon Press.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:36 | 2938990 CPL
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You can get your lead from radiology labs.  Buy the transport containers for the isotopes.  Purest lead you can buy.  Better than what goes in a retail bullet.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:38 | 2939473 Jendrzejczyk
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Under the drywall of the x-ray rooms, are solid sheets of lead. Something to keep in the back of the brain for "unique" circumstances.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:20 | 2939116 Shell Game
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A better place for ammo:

Cases ship free.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 05:39 | 2940333 10mm
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Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:24 | 2939107 Bendromeda Strain
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If it gets cold where you live, for goodness sake get a wood stove, do it now. NOT a pellet stove, yuppie - an honest to goodness stack a pain in the ass cord of wood stove. Requires no power, and many models have an ample cooking surface so you can stretch your propane. I live on the second floor of a New England colonial, and my pipe goes through the wall and up the side of the house.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:39 | 2939338 fuu
Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:25 | 2939786 dark pools of soros
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if it gets cold, trade in your skinny meth stripper gf for two chunky weed ho's to snuggle up with 

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:05 | 2939398 Smiddywesson
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Toilet paper, phone books work too, but quality of life is important for morale.

No electricity means open windows and doors, and open windows and doors means bugs.  Insect repellant.

DC fans.  Everybody finds it hard to sleep when it's too hot.  Good REM sleep is critical to survival, or just happiness.

Presents and candy for the kids (morale)

First aid kit

Surprise cosmetics and trinkets for the ladies (Happy wife, happy life)

Speaking about the ladies, how's about something, ya know, for that time?  (quality of life)

Cigarettes are great barter items, but nip bottles of booze last forever

Fuel stabilizer.  As fuel becomes scarce, you need a means to conserve what is increasingly more precious and becoming more stale.

Some means of earning a living.  If you are a carpenter or an electrician, no problem.  If you underwright loans, time to take up a hobby that can make money.  Not a concern for short term emergencies.

A means of communication with loved ones too far to visit.  Short wave works.

Books, books, books

A means of recharging batteries, cell phones, and other devices like iPods.

Movie night requires: a) Popcorn, and b) a generator

Comm gear.  You can secure the homestead all you want, but if you don't have someone watching, and a means to communicate, it can be taken away.

Surprises.  Surviving bad times like the people who lived in their basements in Beirut, meant having something to look forward to, and having little things to brighten up the day.  Even zoo keepers know this and plant prop in the bear cages to occupy their time.

Lots of nubile females grateful for being taken in and willing to repopulate the Earth.  Oops, sometimes I get carried away.  Sorry.


Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:41 | 2939478 willwork4food
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What to do?

Survival, gotta survive...wait, did someone mention nubile females?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:50 | 2939498 Jendrzejczyk
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As  a master electrician, I can assure you that I'm more than a little freaked about there being no grid to deliver power in the first place. No grid = no job for me. Been learning every trick I can from all my construction friends for the past 5 years.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 21:24 | 2939602 akak
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Cigarettes are great barter items, but nip bottles of booze last forever

Do the bottles of booze have to be Japanese?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:22 | 2939778 dark pools of soros
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Movie night??  these people watch movies ALL DAY  that is why they aint prepared for shit!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 21:15 | 2939584 forwardho
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Thanks fo the time spent on this post and on first. If you are planning on some one else picking up the slack, you is SOL.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:56 | 2938857 francis_sawyer
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Thu, 11/01/2012 - 18:17 | 2939103 Induced Coma
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Can anyone comment on what is the scene on the right with all the vehicles backed up and being directed?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 22:23 | 2939782 dark pools of soros
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Spooks run wild just like back in the 50's

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:55 | 2938860 Shizzmoney
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I dunno about you guys, but now I'm totally motivated to buy from stocks from JPMorgan!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:09 | 2938896 moonstears
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FB 4 me, bitchez!/sarc

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:24 | 2938948 Ness.
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I didn't know JPM sold socks.  Ohhhh... you wrote stocks!?


fuck JPM.


I'd rather have two pair of SmartWool socks than that useless paper.



Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:37 | 2938991's picture

JPM rehypothecates socks. That's why there's always one missing when you empty the dryer.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:43 | 2939481 willwork4food
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You mean like when the wife sneaks money out of my wallet?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 21:00 | 2939533's picture

Your wife would be to John Corzine as her pimp would be to JPM. No offense intended, of course.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:00 | 2938862 scatterbrains
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I just now jumped in the truck (completely clueless it seems) to put some gas in the truck and at my intersection there are 3 gas stations and not a one has gas.  Went home made a few phone calls to gas stations around town and one guy says forget it no gas anywhere in town.  Black Swan is here bitches !!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:03 | 2938891 moonstears
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Scatter, where are you at? State? General area?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:05 | 2938901 scatterbrains
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Fairly large town between the capital of NJ and Princeton NJ... I expect peeps will start running out of gas out on the roads very soon now if it's like this everywhere.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:30 | 2938967 moonstears
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Well best to you! Idea, maybe go south to fill up? Nearest place logically not storm damagedW-E-N ? Fill up now? The fact you're on ZH tells me you're a critical thinker, get to it and best of luck!

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 19:51 | 2939361 One eyed man
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Does gasbuddy show anything nearby?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:13 | 2938920 surf0766
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A black swan isn't seen until after it has completed the crash.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:54 | 2939039 Zap Powerz
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That sucks.  Id let you have some of my 40gal of gas that I have in storage except I wont share my gas with anyone.  Good luck.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:09 | 2939408 Smiddywesson
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Leave the gas, and just walk away.


The Great Humungous

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:55 | 2938865 Lost Wages
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Probably just a group of Freegans out for their morning stroll.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 17:47 | 2939020 CunnyFunt
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That's exactly what it is.

They're self-styled "old leftie hippie type[s]".

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 16:58 | 2938873 lincolnsteffens
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I lived there on East 11th between Ave. B&C in the 60's. It was a major dump then.

It looks to me like the wealth cycle is returning to the mean in the neighborhood.

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