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GM Channel Stuffing Soars To Record
For a few months there, we were worried that GM may have actually found a (government-funded) natural subprime buyer of its vehicles after the company managed to keep its channel stuffing in check for several months. Those fears ended today with the company's October car sales report, according to which GM sold 4.7% more cars, or 42,759 in absolute terms (from 153,005 to 195,764) in October than September, below expectations of a 7.8% increase. So far so good. What however will hardly get any mention from Government Motors cheerleaders is that GM auto inventory at dealers as of October 31 was a record 739,034 (a massive 98 days of supply), an increase of 49,700 from October's 689,334. In other words, the entire incremental rise in sales, and then some, was due to the firm stuffing dealers with even more inventory than they can possibly handle!
Spot the record number out:
And while the inventory certainly plugs into the beancounter definition of GDP, it merely adds to what will eventually be inventory for dumping at the dealer lever. The one hope, of course, is that following Hurricane Sandy there will be a flood of buyers who seek to replace their destroyed cars with brand new ones. Now if only the Fed's Magic Money Tree also grew in every back yard and consumers actually had the money to buy up all these cars flooding dealer lots...
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OT: Man, Cube is keeping it real!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNlGfPWTySc
pinching his pennies so hard, buger came out of lincoln.
Word up amigo.
That seals it! Im writing in Ice Cube! Seriously. Great video
If GM was smart they would have parked that entire dealer inventory on the Jersey shore last week for a little "channel flushing"
Yeah. Dump thoses losses off on Uncle Warren's insurance companies so we can get this QE4 bailout going.
http://updates.jalopnik.com/post/34669789863/more-than-a-dozen-fisker-karma-hybrids-caught-fire-and
Shoulda bought A123 Batteries
Shoulda bought marshmallows.
that was funny
Actually I think they did lose some autos in the "flood". While trolling through some Hurricane Sandy images yesterday I came across one with a caption that indicated that some new cars had been flooded.
They were Chevy's.
When you think about the actions the Fed took after 9/11, or after one bank failed, it is not hard to imagine the amount of free money give aways that might be taking place now. I thought we would get a lump sum QE4 within 6 months. This is the perfect excuse to do it, do it in secret, and do it big for your buddies.
Chevy Default Swaps? General Motors Backed Securities?
That's just a liitle water so.....no default declared.
The water only reached to the top of the dashboard. Just run a hair dryer over the speedo for a few minutes, sprinkle some baking soda on the carpets to get that sewage smell out, and you'll be fine.
Promise.
About 6 years ago I test drove a used Pilot that had an interesting interior smell under the massive amount of "new car" scent that had obviously been poured all over the inside.
Mentioned it to the salesman and made him a lowball offer. He quickly pulled out the "CarFax" and pointed to it that there was no water damage indicated on the "CarFax". I let him know that if it wasn't a flood salvage, it wouldn't be on the "CarFax" anyway - But that doesn't mean the prior owner didn't somehow get it full of water one way or another.
Salesman basically said some other person would buy it as is at that price based on the "CarFax" and wouldn't lower the price. I walked away to let some other fool put their trust in "CarFax"
(BTW - this was at a Honda lot, this Pilot was not "certified" though)
Contrary to popular belief in the car business the best thing to do with lemons is to sell them to someone else.
"About 6 years ago I test drove a used Pilot that had an interesting interior smell under the massive amount of "new car" scent that had obviously been poured all over the inside."
I noticed the very same thing flying Delta to Miami.
it should be called union vote stuffing.
Speaking of buddies
CORZINED: Obama And Holder Owned By Wall Street
This channel stuffing crap is EXACTLY why gubmint shouldn't be in the car business.
All the "reported" numbers of GM recovery are fake.
Sure. They're buliding lotsa cars & paying fat union paychecks -but at a loss. GM's huge marketing problem - which they acknowledge - is the government's (and, by extension, Obama) ownership. Many people in what was once their market segment absolutely refuse to even consider a GM product at new car time. Why? Because they do shit like this to their dealers and because Obama gets a cut from every car sold. The obvious cut is the masses of money that the Autoworkers Union gives him.
Where do you suppose THAT comes from?
Then, just imagine all the filthy, dirty, secret ways that the company is siphoning money off the books for Obama in little payments here & there. Don't wanna help out, Mr. junior accountant? You're FIRED. Or, "if you turn us in, YOU'LL be spending some time as Bubba's prison bitch, too." Not much of a stretch to imagine that scenario, is it?
I wouldn't be surprised if there's an office building in Detroit filled by FSA/ EBT troops. Their job(non-union, $8/hour, of course) is to spend 8 hours a day sending thousands of $180 donations from railroad cars full of prepaid Visa/MCs under fake names to Obama's websites. No verification or checking, naturally.
The money for the pile of debit cards coming out of some sketchy, smokey GM "Diversity Promotions" account. Then... "Aw dang! GM had a multi-billion loss last quarter. Darn. Costs just got too high". Right.
Well played UAW. Well played. I don't blame them a bit. They're doing what comes natural.
I've bought lots of GM cars in the past. I like(ed) 'em. There are several products that they offer today which interest me. Until the government and, ideally, the union get's out of GM, The best way not to play is not to buy their cars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjkdynBFHuQ
Has anyone ever wondered if this is how ol' Hopey Changey was elected?
Or put the dealer inventory on Russian freighters.
BINGO....Semperfi....now, watch out on the used car market for all the swamped cars hitting the lots.
Time for another cash for swamper program.
and add a cool advertising, something going like: "Even with Sandy, you can eat your candy, only in the GM's most grandy*"
*Oversized coke can be dangerous for your health ( and your wealth too ). As oversized car IS dangerous for you wallet and security (if there is such a concept) of the nation .
HEADLINE: GM to the rescue; sends tens of thousands of cars to hurricane victims!
STORY: GM put thousands of cars on planes and ships headed for the east coast for some much needed relief for hurricane victims left without transportation. Who could have known that those same ships and planes woudn't survive the trip and were lost at sea and the planes crashed. GM stock is up 5% in afterhours trading on news of both their philantrophy and modest sales numbers increase.
Footnote: aAcouple of GM dealers who went bankrupt via overstuffed inventories although GM contradicts these statements saying, "Osama Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive!"
It doesn't matter. Obama motors has another 4 years to be bailed out. The government can buy all the backlog. If it gets worse Bernanke says he can buy everything with his magic Keynesian money.
The Feds Magic Money Tree does grow in the backyard of every underpriviliged GM buyer; it's otherwise known as the sub-prime auto loan.
Who needs cash?
Housing bubble redux.....
It is easier to sell inventory to insurance carriers than to actual customers.
Ah working for the government. GM will keep cranking out cars to show numbers to beaurocrats that don't really know or care what is going on. They can show final production numbers in a sweet powerpoint to the boss, and that is all that counts. Success for the government is not about profit margins but if you are showing that numbers are up.
The Russians were great at that with their central planning.....the factory numbers always beat
Stick a fork in Romney.
What if all I have is a bayonet?
Then ram it up Barry's poop chute.
If I only had a Volt.
Nah.
At least the fire would keep us warm.
Yeah.....but Christmas is coming. So rush on out and buy (er...finance) your favorite Chevy product and put a big fat red bow on top.
Buy banana America.
/sarc
Well you could buy a Chrysler (sarc)
TO SAVE $1: Bailed Out Chrysler To Move U.S. JEEP Production To Italy
But didn't Romney say they were moving to China?
THank God Obama bailed out GM so it could build the cars Americans want!
Got Church's Chicken?
Got 64 oz Dr. Pepper?
Got Zoloft RX from CVS?
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What a small car. Or giant man. Can't tell.
Neither is the case. Both are about average size around these parts, as is the corn syrup drink.
Hedgeless , do you have a good recipe for duck. ( a coon riped the head of one of my duck's so , time for duck soup) thanks.
I love to stir-fry duck in a wok with those little red chinese peppers (or habaneros) and molasses. Top with some fresh chopped scallions and serve with steamed rice.
Bourdain has a different way to cook duck rather than heat the heck out of it. You may try this:
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/wild-chef/2011/04/video-anthony-bour...
:D
smoke it with cherry wood. dry marinade with salt and brown sugar litttle garlic powder hmmm
I remember when 67k bought a new house
You can still go to Detroit and buy a house for the same price as a nice dinner in NYC.
My parents bought their 1200 sq ft house in Bellflower Calif (12 miles from beach in metro LA) in '54 for 11k. In '07 it peaked at 505K at which point I sold it.
That was a very move and excellent timing as well as a nice 7.5% annualized return over those 53 years! In the best real estate market period that this country will ever see and to think most public pension plans assume an 8% return on their investments. Hopefully you left the "golden" state.
I was on the fence until I saw that free Onstar tracking device for 6 months. I think I'll pick me one up today. I have a call in to Bernanke to print me up $67,000
Nicely equipped for only $67,185
What can I get for $1.53 and a barely used whistle?
Actually, you can get quite a bit of stuff...
http://www.benefits.gov/benefits/benefit-finder/#benefits&qc=cat_1
That's the smallest Suburban I've ever seen.
He used to ride a bike but kept getting the seat stuck up his arse.
This post is incredible. I'm copying this verbatim and posting it outside my office.
This will surely fuel the rage of mindless co-workers talking about reality TV, driving SUVs to work, smoking, eating out every day for lunch, and always purchasing the newest iDevice their maxed out hands can get on. Yes, this will piss them off and I will chuckle at their complete lack of foresight and planning when gas goes back up to $5.00 a gallon.
Oh, they also make their kids take out 100% student loans for their college because these derelicts don’t have any savings and would rather appear wealthy than actually being wealthy. America, fuck yeah!!
Now that Bloomberg has decreed that there has to be at least three people in a car there is no need for replacing any cars lost to the flood. Oh yeah there will be check points to make sure nobody in smuggling in any drink larger than 16 oz.
Might as well put some action in your life.
I used to love cruising to this song in my 70 Cutlass with a rocket 350...that bitch could scream.
72 Chevelle SS 454. Rear tires did not last long. :) I owned 2 of them at one time. I could drive one and repair the other one.
That's a nice car. I always wanted that model.
I had a '67 Cutlass. Favorite car ever. Or maybe my '88 Merkur.
I had a 64 Pontiac GTO with the 389 Tri power. Wish I still had it, it's inflated faster than Bernanke bucks
70 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400, 400 with four barrel and Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher four-speed transmission. Rear tires were mince meat.
Still into performance vehicles, have a 2004 Ford Lightning. 5.4 liter V-8 with Eaton M-112 roots blower, large list of performance mods. Over 400 hp in a pickup, back tires do not last long if you drive it like it was meant to be driven. And that blower sings a nice song with a custom made cog belt drive. ;-)
http://s849.beta.photobucket.com/user/cbxer55/media/Lightning/01010002-1...
I bought it used in Dec. 09 with 34,000 miles, it'll be paid off early sometime mid next year. So no new Government Motors vehicle for this cat.
Curious timing for this surge.
lookin good, lookin good
another Bumma turnaround in the same stylee as Solyndra and A123 batteries
the Midas Touch of Govt
I recall in the 70's my econ professor dicussing this happening in russia by central planning govt. I be damned if it didnt happen at a place i ended up working at just so upper managers could get big bonus bucks... saw the light and quit.... now I ll be damned if the f'govt isnt doing the same ol shit.
it's even more horrific than that.. not only Govt subsidy but Govt red tape throttling America (ditto Europe and Japan)
the cancerous scum of the US Govt, meddling marxists (progressives) no doubt backed by the US Parasite Club big boys are close to cornering 50% of US land
this interview I listened to last night is horrific, ranchers filling out hours of Govt paperwork every week, eco-loon fucking around and fucking up forestry, agricultural work wrecked with an estimated 40 million US workers displaced and jobless. It's disgusting what's happening, give it a listen
http://tinyurl.com/9ko33k6
+1 Wait until obamacare goes into effect the rules and regulations for that disaster number in the thousands and
Under the Obamacare mandate provision, you must disclose your personal health ID information to the IRS.
My favorite Russian central planning story from a prof: Ag output dropped so tractor plants were directed to increase production tonnage. So they added weight--reinforced the frames or whatever. Next season Ag output was down because so many tractors got stuck in the mud.
My job was with a tractor manufacturer. LOL they learned from the Ruskies!!!
The professor was also probably a Liberal/Progressive. Most of them seem to be.
I had a 90hp new holland 2 wd, around a 02 or so model, that wasn't good for shit other than getting stuck. I only had to call a tow truck once, but man I rutted up a lot of soil getting unstuck. Now I have a M6040 kubota, which has never been stuck, but it is 4wd. I'm not sure why they make 2wd tractors. When shopping for a new tractor back in 08 I compared weights across the board. A deere in the same class as my tractor weighed 2k# more, and was made in mexico. I love my kubota, not one problem in 4 years, and I don't hold anything back when using it.
so if you want to buy a GM car, wait until they are on end of year firesale in December.
The US has become the former Soviet Union where those belonging to the public unions make more than the rest. The public teacher strikes have many wearing red Marxist shirts these days.
Obama will win the second term and it's a green light for more socialist programs.
I don't know the stats on this, but just looking at the average vintage on the road is a pretty good indicator that no one is buying new cars these days. Go back to most of the 1990s and the 2002-05 time frame and it seemed everyone had a new shiny in the driveway.
In my neck of the woods we have a large number of Federal employees. They're all driving new Mercedes, Lexus and BMWs.
Where I live the local public employees all drive top-shelve cars. (Mercedes, BMWs, Lexus, infinti). Not the low-end but the more expensive ones.
It must be the poor saps that are in the private sector.
Wealth Redistribution Opportunity - steal their Mercedes and leave your Mustang behind in exchange.
There are now two months left to sell 740k cars, and five months until the early 2014 models start coming. I'm seeing ads for 72 month 0% financing with $1500 cash to the buyer for 2012 GM cars.
I really liked the new Jetta GLI but there were none available. I could have my pick of 35 VW Beetle Turbos, though. It has the same engine and built on the same platform, but it is a Beetle. Dealer inventory in my area was a whopping 94 2012 Turbo Beetles. Volkswagen had 0% for 72 months on the Beetle, but it ended Oct 31st. They still have virtually every single one as of today.
Who knows what kind of sales will be needed to clear those cars out. The 2013s are supposed to be available but they can't put them out until the 2012s are gone. If VW is going to have that kind of trouble, I can't imagine the pain a GM dealer is going to go through.
I did see an ad from one of my local Chevy dealer. $8000 off a brand new 2010 Malibu with 15 to choose from. The dealer still has 15 cars left over from the 2010 model year!!
I just bought a 2012 Jetta TDI. I didn't get the 0% for 72 months though because its diesel. Appearantly, they are selling well, everything else, not so much. I only bought new because my old TDI finally crapped out (tranny). The interest rates on used vehicles are so much higher than new that it was no longer economically beneficial to buy used. Big wonder.
72-month financing--on a car--HaHaHa...
Property owners adjacent to these dealers should offer parking spaces for all the extra inventory. GM channel stuffing...perfect with turkey and gravy.
Oh, but they are! Every single dealer around here has a "satellite lot" that they constantly shuffle cars back and forth with the main lot. Empty strip mall parking lots, closed down restaurants, and even the lot at a still open bowling alley are all filled to the brim.
It's likely the most money the bowling alley has made in years.
#winning!
these cars flooding dealer lots...
So how many dealers and inventory were flooded?
If the entire 739K in channel stuffed inventory was parked in Atlantic City; Paul Krugman will be dancing!
And the markets are up this morning on this bullish news.
Dow is up 150 already.
http://bullandbearmash.com/chart/dow-hourly-today-200-point-swing/
These wild irrational days will continue until next week - after the election it may be a different story.
The GM jobs act of 2009. Anecdotally, I'm looking for a vette and dealers are typically now lisiting them at anywhere from 10 to 15% off of window sticker.
Over-Shipments at 116% of the delta in end sales is the new Killing It!
I think the article mis-stated results. units weren't up 43k from sept, that is the difference between GM sales and retail sales, that 43k should be the amount of increase in dealer inventory (but doesnt' fully correspond to the inventory chart).
But the released notes YTD unit sales of 2163k was 3.6% ahead of last year...78k more units. and according to the chart, channel stuffing inventory has grown from 619k at 12/31/11 to 739k at 10/31/12. that should mean YTD YOY unit sales are actually down 2.0%, if you remove the BS channel stuffing growth.
although the chart in the release also shows retial sales up 3.6%, but i assume the is ex-fleet sales.
What is the problem?
Did you see all of those water covered cars here in the NE?
Congratulations, you are about to fund the new and improved Soggy Clunkers Program.
In the last 30 days the ass has fallen out of used cars prices as Dealers need cash, and Fall New Car sales have been met by people who prefer to travel by iPhone.
This is not going to be some half-assed New Orleans deal. We're going to go First Class, with a purty GM, F, Chrysler for everybody. Just show your voter registration ID.
Throw a couple of blowfish into your car, put in the garden hose, close the windows, and turn on the faucet.
It's your duty as a Citizen to help clear Dealer Inventory.
You know what this means...bring on the ridiculous incentives!!
After Amazon's attempt to C3 Android 4.0 phone on its home page, Apple has hit back, pointing out that Amazon's claims are incorrect and the iPad mini does have stereo speakers.
The one hope, of course, is that following Hurricane Sandy there will be a flood of buyers who seek to replace their destroyed cars with brand new ones.
Are you saying Obama Motors used Haarp to sell more cars? Just kidding.
It's more of a possibility that many layoffs will occur at GM after the elections. Don't want any bad news before the election. That would be another strike against Obama.