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Step Aside Apple Line, Here Comes The Gas Line: Photo Album Of A Nation Waiting, Waiting, Waiting

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Perhaps the reason why AAPL is having its biggest daily tumble in recent history on the day it officially launched the iPad mini for retail sale, is because all the people who otherwise would be waiting in line in front of FAO Schwartz and inhaling the smell of fresh horse excrement, are doing all they can to obtain gas. Any  gas. Because iHeater, iShower and iFridge just lack that little "oomph" when dealing with people who are cold, smelly and hungry.

Pictures courtesy of the DailyMail

Desperate measures: Chris Zaturoski uses a garden hose to attempt to siphon gasoline from his car to use in a generator at his New Jersey house which is without power in the wake of superstorm Sandy

Desperate measures: Chris Zaturoski uses a garden hose to attempt to siphon gasoline from his car to use in a generator at his New Jersey house which is without power in the wake of superstorm Sandy

Gridlock: Traffic is gridlocked on the Long Island Expressway into Manhattan near the turn off for the Queensboro Bridge as commuters try to get back to work after Sandy

Gridlock: Traffic is gridlocked on the Long Island Expressway into Manhattan near the turn off for the Queensboro Bridge as commuters try to get back to work after Sandy

Lights out: Without power, many gas stations have had to close because they can't pump fuel into customers' cars

Lights out: Without power, many gas stations have had to close because they can't pump fuel into customers' cars

 

Busy: An Instagram user shares a picture of their local station

Busy: An Instagram user shares a picture of their local station

 

Limited options: Police tape blocks the entrance to a fuelling station where people wait in line

Limited options: Police tape blocks the entrance to a fuelling station where people wait in line

Serious situation: A commuter cycles past a long line of vehicles waiting to get fuel from a gas station in Midtown Manhattan today

Serious situation: A commuter cycles past a long line of vehicles waiting to get fuel from a gas station in Midtown Manhattan today

Waste of time: Many of the queues were more than three hours long

Waste of time: Many of the queues were more than three hours long

Tough competition: Lines began forming today at around 5am

Tough competition: Lines began forming today at around 5am

Budget choice: A man squats down to fill up his gas can at a Hess fuelling station in Brooklyn

Budget choice: A man squats down to fill up his gas can at a Hess fuelling station in Brooklyn

Everyone's affected: Twitter, Instagram and Facebook have been inundated with evocative pictures of people coping with low fuel supplies

Everyone's affected: Twitter, Instagram and Facebook have been inundated with evocative pictures of people coping with low fuel supplies

Heat seekers: As temperatures begin to drop, people wait in line to fill containers with gas at a Shell filling station in Keyport, N.J.

Heat seekers: As temperatures begin to drop, people wait in line to fill containers with gas at a Shell filling station in Keyport, N.J.

Struggle: President Obama sent 250,000 gallons of gas and 500,000 gallons of diesel fuel via the Department of Defense

Struggle: President Obama sent 250,000 gallons of gas and 500,000 gallons of diesel fuel via the Department of Defense

Powerless: Drivers are forced to travel to find open gas stations. Many have yellow tape wrapped over their pumps

Powerless: Drivers are forced to travel to find open gas stations. Many have yellow tape wrapped over their pumps

Anger: State officials have has help from the Red Cross and the National Guard - but it is still not enough

Anger: State officials have has help from the Red Cross and the National Guard - but it is still not enough

Killing time: Residents of downtown neighborhoods have had to rely on crowded buses or taxis to get around, though the latter may not be an option in days to come

Killing time: Residents of downtown neighborhoods have had to rely on crowded buses or taxis to get around, though the latter may not be an option in days to come

All aboard: Mohammad Ullah fills up his gypsy cab from a gas container while others wait on a line

All aboard: Mohammad Ullah fills up his gypsy cab from a gas container while others wait on a line

Heavy work: A police officer, right, helps Jason Bravo push an out-of-gas van into a station in Brooklyn

Heavy work: A police officer, right, helps Jason Bravo push an out-of-gas van into a station in Brooklyn

Which direction? A New York City Police officer directs traffic at a Hess fuelling station in Brooklyn

Which direction? A New York City Police officer directs traffic at a Hess fuelling station in Brooklyn

Some lines are miles long and many have had to stop using their cars because their tanks are empty

Some lines are miles long and many have had to stop using their cars because their tanks are empty



Fuel rage: A police officer attempts to break up the row amid escalating anger over the gas shortage

Fuel rage: A police officer attempts to break up the row amid escalating anger over the gas shortage

Keeping control: The fuel rationing in the tri-state area is having a huge knock-on effect, and police and National Guard troops are now providing security at gas stations

Keeping control: The fuel rationing in the tri-state area is having a huge knock-on effect, and police and National Guard troops are now providing security at gas stations

Drafted in: A police officer watches as people wait in line to fill their gas containers after Superstorm Sandy closed most gas stations in Allenhurst, New Jersey

Drafted in: A police officer watches as people wait in line to fill their gas containers after Superstorm Sandy closed most gas stations in Allenhurst, New Jersey

Friction: Residents argue for their place in line while waiting to get fuel at a gas station in the New York City borough of Queens. State troopers have been drafted in to maintain order in some areas

Friction: Residents argue for their place in line while waiting to get fuel at a gas station in the New York City borough of Queens. State troopers have been drafted in to maintain order in some areas

Dispute: An argument starts as men take their place in the line for fuel from a gas station in the borough of Queens in New York

Dispute: An argument starts as men take their place in the line for fuel from a gas station in the borough of Queens in New York



City in chaos: Children play on the ground during the long wait to get to one of the gas stations still operating

City in chaos: Children play on the ground during the long wait to get to one of the gas stations still operating

Dry at the pumps: A police officer holds caution tape after a gas station ran out of fuel in the Brooklyn borough of New York

Dry at the pumps: A police officer holds caution tape after a gas station ran out of fuel in the Brooklyn borough of New York

None here: A New York City police officer explains to a driver that a gas station on the west side of Manhattan has run out of fuel

None here: A New York City police officer explains to a driver that a gas station on the west side of Manhattan has run out of fuel

A state on its knees: An estimated 80 per cent of the gas stations in New Jersey are closed closed

A state on its knees: An estimated 80 per cent of the gas stations in New Jersey are closed closed

All smiles: A group beam with happiness after they reach the front of the line

All smiles: A group beam with happiness after they reach the front of the line

Trying to stock up: People line up to fill gas containers at the New Jersey Turnpike's Thomas A. Edison service area, near Woodbridge

Trying to stock up: People line up to fill gas containers at the New Jersey Turnpike's Thomas A. Edison service area, near Woodbridge

All ages: A girl holds jerry cans while waiting in line at a gas station in Hazlet township, New Jersey

All ages: A girl holds jerry cans while waiting in line at a gas station in Hazlet township, New Jersey

Running on empty: A man lifts a jerry can over his head to see if there is any gasoline left at a gas station in Hazlet township, New Jersey

Running on empty: A man lifts a jerry can over his head to see if there is any gasoline left at a gas station in Hazlet township, New Jersey

Deserted: Many stations are out of action because they have no power to operate the pumps

Deserted: Many stations are out of action because they have no power to operate the pumps

Patient: Residents hold containers while waiting for hours to get fuel from a gas station in the New York City borough of Queens

Patient: Residents hold containers while waiting for hours to get fuel from a gas station in the New York City borough of Queens

Hanging around: A man talks on a cell phone as he waits with others for fuel in Queens, New York City

Hanging around: A man talks on a cell phone as he waits with others for fuel in Queens, New York City

Weary: Long queues for fuel formed at this Gulf gas station in Manalapan, New Jersey

Weary: Long queues for fuel formed at this Gulf gas station in Manalapan, New Jersey

Little helper: Kora Ferrone, carries a five-gallon gas can as she assists her father, Chris Ferrone, in line at a station in Toms River, New Jersey

Little helper: Kora Ferrone, carries a five-gallon gas can as she assists her father, Chris Ferrone, in line at a station in Toms River, New Jersey

Queuing for gas: A long line of people wait to purchase gasoline for their cars and generators, at a gas station in Point Pleasant, New Jersey

Queuing for gas: A long line of people wait to purchase gasoline for their cars and generators, at a gas station in Point Pleasant, New Jersey

 

Masses: People needing to get back to work in New Jersey queue at a gas station in Point Pleasant

Masses: People needing to get back to work in New Jersey queue at a gas station in Point Pleasant

Stressful: Families are stockpiling gas, unsure of when supplies will revive and unable to rely on the public transport system

Stressful: Families are stockpiling gas, unsure of when supplies will revive and unable to rely on the public transport system

Endless: Cars wait in long lines at a Sunoco gas station on the Garden State Parkway in Montvale, New Jersey

Endless: Cars wait in long lines at a Sunoco gas station on the Garden State Parkway in Montvale, New Jersey

Sign of the times: Motorists hoping to fill up at a Sunoco gas station on the Garden State Parkway in Montvale, New Jersey, had no choice but to stop and wait

Sign of the times: Motorists hoping to fill up at a Sunoco gas station on the Garden State Parkway in Montvale, New Jersey, had no choice but to stop and wait

Congested: Cars queue bumper to bumper as they approach a gas station in Toms River, New Jersey, after fuel stocks were depleted following Superstorm Sandy

Congested: Cars queue bumper to bumper as they approach a gas station in Toms River, New Jersey, after fuel stocks were depleted following Superstorm Sandy

Filling up: A gas station attendant fills a customer's Jerry cans with gasoline in Hazlet township, New Jersey, after the devastation of Sandy

Filling up: A gas station attendant fills a customer's Jerry cans with gasoline in Hazlet township, New Jersey, after the devastation of Sandy



Frayed tempers: Armed police tackle violence at a gas station in Brooklyn, after one customer accused another of cutting in line

Frayed tempers: Armed police tackle violence at a gas station in Brooklyn, after one customer accused another of cutting in line

Misery: Drivers get to gas stations as early as they can can to beat the crowds, but the crisis could go on for another week

Misery: Drivers get to gas stations as early as they can can to beat the crowds, but the crisis could go on for another week

Drained: Fuel tankers have been diverted to the Port of Virginia, and immediate relief is still some way off

Drained: Fuel tankers have been diverted to the Port of Virginia, and immediate relief is still some way off

Pushing through: A police officer moves a car that is completely out of gas, trying to position it so it can fill up at a gas station in Brooklyn, New York

Pushing through: A police officer moves a car that is completely out of gas, trying to position it so it can fill up at a gas station in Brooklyn, New York

Road block: Passing motorists are accidentally finding themselves in line, and getting accused of cutting

Road block: Passing motorists are accidentally finding themselves in line, and getting accused of cutting

In the dark: Station managers in the borough haven¿t been told specifics, only that they hope to have fuel deliveries by early next week

In the dark: Station managers in the borough haven¿t been told specifics, only that they hope to have fuel deliveries by early next week

Shellshocked: New Yorkers are just starting to get their lives back on track after the terrible storm

Shellshocked: New Yorkers are just starting to get their lives back on track after the terrible storm

 


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Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Mongo
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YEAH That's right bitchez... know your place in the line!

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:11 | Link to Comment flacon
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Forced Carpooling CAUSES Gridlock in NYC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkfK7OPEB0

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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Meanwhile on the "markets", people lining up for gas sends crude's price into a Baumgartner dive...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:29 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Everything you ever wanted to know about fuel cans, but were afraid to ask...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/british-leaders-suggest-panic-buying-gasoline-avoid-panic-buying-gasoline#comment-2300259

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Kitler
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We can only hope that the good citizens of New York will maintain their good manners while they iWait.

I'd hate to see the police have to open fire on the crowd near the gas pumps.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment negative rates
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And he waits, and he waits, annie waits,.. for the call, from a friend.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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If you need a siphon try these. They're great. No sucking involved.

 

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/3-hopkins-shaker-siphons.aspx?a=66...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:23 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Those are fairly bulky, and you cannot use them as a tourniquet. 

Hopefully, ZHers in the path of Sandy did spend the following $6 for 6 ft.  Some initial sucking is involved.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-19-10/fear-we-are-returning-time-history-where-it-common-occurrence-fight-ones-life

Item 5

o,Tubing,1,6' surgical tubing (emergency tourniquet/syphon),$6.00

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment economics9698
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I highly recommend ZH'er buy this.  It pays for itself with one use.

 http://www.homedepot.com/buy/siphon-pump-kit-490-850-0008.html#.UJQplW-HJCo

 

Oh and the lines could be eliminated instantly if the merchants were allowed to charge the going market rate.  Price ceilings create shortages, econ 101.

 

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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So there are no "apps" for this? The all-encompassing power of Western Civilization Big Brother & Big 'Sis can't mitigate the repercussions of an extremely benign-by-historical standards event in satisfactory fashion?

What will happen when something far more devastating strikes an even wider swath of the "civilians?"

WTF bitchez?

 

Too bad there aren't any apps that are powerful enough (even assuming one who is on the grid can find the power source to charge their iGadget) to take the vicious edge off the inevitable and brutal fundamental nature of human nature manifesting itself in full un-glory.

These pictures are merely an amuse-gueule of the depraved, barbaric (notice that I did not use the term barbarous), wicked, nothing-will-be-taboo, nature-red-in-tooth-&-claw scenes that will be not just common and routine, but "the new normal," when the shit truly hits the fan in the dystopian suburban/urban nightmare born of cognitive dissonance that is the core that supports (for now) the very foundation & structure of modern American society.

The same holds true for any other "civilized" area of the world, whether in Europe or Canada, that was shaped and formed by the same cognitive dissonance.

This is the reason I long to be as far away and independent of these areas and their inhabitants as possible. I can already detect the sour notes of shame, sin, sickness, filth, butchery, depravity & bloodlust in the appetizer.

I would definitely find the entrée and dessert far more unpalatable.

 

"They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

--Father George Carlin

Patriarch of the Church of Reality/Divine Comedy

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:38 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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And for all the Obama voters; 'NOGAS' is Spanish for 'Out of Fuel'. 

Just wanted to clear that up...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:52 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Lots of brand new, sparkling clean gas cans in those photos and no one talkin on der ObamaPhown ya now?...electricity jus comes outta his stash I guess...ya now? 

This is the time Big Government was supposed to be at the top of its game, ya now? ;-)

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:22 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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What you see is Obama at the top of his game.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:27 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...Forward!!!...to the gas lines.

Prolly too late for another hard pivot ;-)

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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and the really funny thing is that they still have to make the payments on the car, even though there's no fuel.

Who said banking's a shite business. Looks pretty storm proof to me, especially when the govt's got your back...

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 07:57 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Just stay on the 747 for a llyover.

 

Don't go down there and actually promise anything.....you'll look like a total jackass.

 

The one thing I learned from looking at those pictures is that America is flush with gas cans....we need to start making more gas.

 

Just sayin.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:44 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I think I saw MDB in a line.  He was the one wearing the Obama shirt.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Fedaykinx
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i'd just like to say, somewhere near the top of the thread, coming from a life-long resident of the deep south... from the bottom of my heart... welcome to flyover country.

bitches.

too bad they canceled the marathon that would have been a riot.  heh.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:17 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I saw Harry Wanger somewhere in that line, too.

After the Chinese Government revoked his urinal cake production license, he switched his factory over to silkscreening Che Guevara tshirts, and I heard he made a killing.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:46 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@TIS

That was funny as shit... :-)

@HH

Excellent foto of REAL jerrycans... REAL STEEL bitchez... Accept no substitutes... I'd actually call the engineering of those MF'ers (the 3 handles, the materials, the shape, the weight & caps, the reliability, etc.) amongst the most brilliant in the past century... Genius...

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 04:52 | Link to Comment Element
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Can you imagine what would have happened if Sandy had been a mere Cat-2 storm?

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:38 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Fart blurf snort arghh blurb sneed

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 09:32 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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We are from the Red Cross, want a cookie?

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:10 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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I see pictures of honest citizens patiently waiting their turn in line at gas stations, following the rules of the road on the hiways, and making the best of a bad situation. No mad max, no breakdown of civilization.

This is actually typical of power outages and weather emergencies.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:47 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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It's been 3 1/2 days.

Give it 4 weeks and watch & see what happens (let alone 4 months).

Remember that great power outage back in 2005?  People were already beginning to devolve into neanderthals at about the 4 day point.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:43 | Link to Comment JOYFUL
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There are apps "powerful enough" to deal with this...they come with four legs and a tail, and they pull cutting edge equipment designed and manufactured domestically....

unfortunately, for the legion of dopes who bought into the myth of technological supremacism, 'first world' is the new 'third world'...

As "unwanted" horses are rounded up to be sold to butchers, and wild horses are mercilessly attacked and slaughtered for no other crime than 'livin free', the gadget-laden puppets of the west find that their strings pull them in ever tighter circles towards a day when the real butchers' bill comes in: at the heart and soul of our great western legacy of civilization was...the horse. Not some mass produced, planned obsolescence-designed trinket, worshipped by the massed cultists in their snaking lines of ritualistic plastic gas can laden frenzy.

In any kind of sane society all those four-legged friends would have been shipped east to the big cities where their proud n happy four-bearers once trotted through the streets delivering the daily lifeblood of the urban populations, the factories would be ringing day and night to the sound of hammered spokes and sprockets as another phaeton gets assembled, and the plug pulled on stupid corn for ethanol schemes that enrich the rich while impoverishing everybody else...

but this be Amerika....where the 'smell' of 'horse excrement' is offensive to the nasal sensitivities of the massed cutting-edged CampFema pre-registrants. and hysterical PETA nazis slander & attack the few remaining carriage-men brave enough to appear in daylight...welcome to your gas-powered Gulag Merika!

I don't have the priviliges accorded to "Hedgeless Horseman" here, so I can't post the one pic that is missing from your foto album...that of a four-in-hand trotting by one of your cargo-cult installations(aka 'gas station') as the congregants gap open-mouthed at the happy commuters ensconced on the warm seats within, and a live 'web cam' streams pictures of the irony of it all!

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:50 | Link to Comment Dr. Sandi
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I believe the smell of horse excrement has to do with the impending election, nothing more.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 02:44 | Link to Comment JOYFUL
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Whilst you may be correct in diagnosing the immediate application of the term herein, I believe that the term horse excrement(aka "horse shit") serves as perfect metaphor for the terminal decline of common sense(aka "horse sense" in the western gulag zone...

where the phrase has taken on an exclusively perjorative sense to refer to anything 'bad' or screwed up, by the urban detritus of reality-challenged petro-junkies who are soon to be herded into the warmth and safety of their local DHS collection centers, due to the lack of food, heating and mobility they suffer from as a result of these faux-disasters....

all of which, of course, are provided by the much maligned creators of the much-maligned horseshit...which not only provides great heating and fertilizes crops, but also provides a vechicle by which freemen can exercise their free expression of their birthright of bein free...to move where they please, when it pleases them....

but that's sooooo....last century!

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 05:05 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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+1 for using "perjorative"

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 05:17 | Link to Comment cossack55
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If not mistaken, I read somewhere that the horse population of the US is at a historic low.  I also hear they are corraling and giving them away somewhere in s. Indiana. Yes?

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:41 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Blurb born sheen water needle snack

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment JOYFUL
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Yes, you can basically get yourself a horse for no up-front cost at this point...which is an even better deal than the almost give-away electric car deal...until you add up feed costs and realize that unless you already own a(non-drought stricken) farm with plenty of pasture you might be in worse shape than petro-cultists...

However, thanks to human ingenuity, there is a simple solution to financing your new ride...

sprouted barley can be grown efficiently in small spaces without soil, and has all of the nutrients necessary to keep most four-legged friends[sheep,cattle, goats etc,] happy n healthy... while ruminants still need some dry hay to munch on, costs are muchly reduced, as are storage space requirements. Here is one example of a commercial set up http://www.greenfield-hydroponics.com/fodder.html ...many others are listed under barley fodder if you search.

Getting the horse fed is relatively simple...getting the authorities off your back will be another challenge altogether...but I guess that's where the guns part of 'gold, guns, n two fresh mounts' comes into the picture!

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Jena
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You're right, the siphon pumps are way better.  After any disaster involving gas shortages or even during times of very high gas prices, the upswing in incidence of chemical pneumonia increases because of people who aspirate some gas as they're trying to siphon it.  The pumps don't cost much and they last a long time.  On the other hand, chemical pneumonia can kill ya.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Yes, but that's Darwin's theory working overtime.

And, the Darwin award goes to the biggest gas sucker of all time.......

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Jena
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Well, there always is that.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 01:16 | Link to Comment cbxer55
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Yuck, Exxon!  ;-)

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:23 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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Methinks there may be a very bad taste in many northeasterner's mouths come Tuesday when they vote - if not from having had to suck gasoline, then surely from the overall gross incompetence of big gubbermint at all levels in this mess from mayor all the way up to president.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Dr. Sandi
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And there's one born every minute, especially during a major disaster.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:00 | Link to Comment blu
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It turns out this story gave a fairly accurate prediction of what would happen when the gas ran out:

http://www.newcolonist.com/dim_ages.html

And the ending, NYers may end up there too before long. 60 days, maybe.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment CPL
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I read the news today and it was about nothing somewhere.

I read the news today and it was about my country

I read the news today and it was about my city

There was no news today.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:38 | Link to Comment spdrdr
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Oh boy.

I saw the photograph...

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:52 | Link to Comment Dr. Sandi
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...he blew his mind out siphoning gas from a car.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:46 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Flat tart plop hillocks bullocks metamorphose

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment CPL
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<jazz hands!>

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 01:14 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Some initial sucking is involved.

So I could hire Kruggybear, to "prime" that pump?

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:04 | Link to Comment true brain
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This is the exact scenario the peak-oil crowd has been worrying about for years. Only in the the peak-oil scenario, no longer how long you way, you aren't getting any gas period.

scary.  I got 20 gallons of extra gas in my garage at all time.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:09 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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There is no such thing as peak oil.  Go drive your solar car to the grocery store.

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:21 | Link to Comment true brain
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all right, either there is peak oil or there is global warming. Take your pick. Either way human species is screwed....hard.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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or both.

Screwed even harder.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment knukles
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Or neither, so who gives a shit anyway, like worrying, protesting, raising taxes or turning it over to the gubamint's gonna get a damned thing done except enrich a buncha politically connected cronies

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Never have to worry about peak idiots, looks like one is born every minute in NYC.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:41 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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And in 9 months or so there will be a flood of them...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Are you implying they are having sex in the gas lines?

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Yes_Questions
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Thanks for the laugh.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 21:15 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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can of gas is the new bag of coke

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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Are you implying they are having sex in the gas lines?

Well, they are surely being screwed...

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:49 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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William

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:49 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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I happen to agree with you, hedgeless, which is why I also own a farm and rarely need to go to the store anyway, as well as stack almost everything from phyzz to food to tools and books.  Does my handle give a hint what I do for a living to work on this problem set?

Yet people around here seem to hate the idea that cars that don't guzzle gas can exist, and of course that they can work fine - which eventually will extend to trucks and tractors...as long as there is *some* source of energy and motivated people to make it work.  The only question is, will we get it done on time.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:55 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Are there any other platitudes you wish to shower upon yourself or are you done for the evening?...

~~~

I'm sure 'some' are thanking their lucky stars simply because they're otherwise occupied standing in gas lines this evening & don't have to waste their time reading about the virtues of how many tax dollars they spent to subsidize the bulk of your overpayment for a Chevy Volt...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:15 | Link to Comment nmewn
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or a Fisker Karma for some preppy or Hollywood "star" to show their concern for the enviroment by valet parking it at the local clubhouse.

The smirks from their peers must cut their over-inflated egos like razor blades now.

Pure Karma ;-) 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:26 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Obama should have given Chevy Volts to all those out-of-gas, out-of-electricity people. They could drive around - at least 20 miles, I hear - then park and cook hamburgers or marshmallows when the Volt catches fire. Plus it would help GM.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:33 | Link to Comment knukles
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Holy shit man, that is just twisted

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 21:50 | Link to Comment smiler03
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DCFusor... mmm, you use direct current to do nuclear fusion?

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:06 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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+1

My thinking too.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:18 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Luke warm fusion; It's like cold fusion, only more tepid.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:51 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Carlos

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 07:01 | Link to Comment Acet
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A Fusor is a kind of machine used to try and produce energy via nuclear fusion. None has yet been done that actually produces more energy than it consumes.

The current mainstream way in which most scientists are trying to get nuclear fusion to work is Tokamaks and they have been around for 30 years now and nobody has managed to get them to produce more energy than they consume and remain stable (the reaction keeps going off).

Fusors are much, much simpler than Tokamaks and I would love to see them work.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:01 | Link to Comment jcpicks
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+1 GG

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:22 | Link to Comment Cosimo de Medici
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Never understood why you get so much heat here.  It is quite clear you're a smart guy, and as Obama might say, you didn't make that Chevy Volt.  That you know how to make it work via technology with which you are familiar and comfortable hardly makes the subsidies to GM your fault.  The fact is the Volt exists, and if you can use it economically, more power to you (figuratively and literally).

As for your "showering platitudes on yourself", as the first responder said, are you different from any of the other preppers, stackers, ammo hoarders or food producers who continually let everyone here know what they do and what they have?  There is some virus, or groupthink, that for some reason has drifted your way.  Bizarre.

I suppose the last laugh would be when you and your group make progress on your fusion work (ZHers:  read about this man's background before you diss him), then deny it to those here.  I doubt you'd do that, though, as I have long noted comments you have made about how your community works together for everyone's benefit.  Obviously you already are well aware that part of proper prepping (other than alliteration!) is building a like-minded and supportive community.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, "people may boo me, but when I go home and think of my (preparations), I applaud myself."

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:59 | Link to Comment ceilidh_trail
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Agree. DCFusor is not a pompous blowhard. I have followed him for a few years and he is a smart guy- not a braggart.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment I am more equal...
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This is practice for things to come.....

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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So, I guess, living in the Deep South for decades has made me the master of things to come.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Those cans are for napalm son.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Didn't you click through? 

Those Fuel Cans are for Non-Potable Water Only. 

Obey the law, it is for your own safety.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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I did click through, and one of the picture captions really SUCKS.  NEVER ASSUME, and ALWAYS check the contents of a blue can, since non-potable kerosene is extremely flammable (or inflammable).  Putting water in a kerosene appliance, or kerosene is a water appliance (or human body) will have undesirable consequences.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:21 | Link to Comment Matt
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Color-coding is always a good idea. Not sure why they chose black for drinking water though, makes the water really warm in summer.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 05:57 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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Both black and green are often used (especially in polyethylene water storage tanks) to inhibit the growth of algae. However, the color of the tank is not a guarantee that the water inside is actually potable (or even water).

Regulations based on the Safe Water Drinking Act (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/chapter-6A/subchapter-XII) are contained in NSF/ANSI Standard 61 (http://www.nsf.org/business/water_distribution/standard61_overview.asp) which addresses potable water storage container materials.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:39 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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"A friend of mine" has a diesel-powered generator, which just so happens to run on exactly the same fuel that is stored in his 500 gallon basement tank for "heating".  Which also happens to be the same fuel that runs certain automobiles (except for the dye, of course).  And with a wood stove and 3 winters worth of fuel for that, the 500 gallons is pretty safe.  His neighbors would prolly think he's one of those crazy preppers...if they knew.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:07 | Link to Comment pods
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Sounds as if your "friend" is prepared for mayhem around the korner eh?

kudos!

pods

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:57 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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& to think it still won't stop DC Fusor from trying to sell him a Chevy Volt...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Renewable Life
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If he lives in the tri state area, he might be the only house with heat, cable on, and food left in it!!

Enjoy Sportscenter "Friend"!!!

Btw, it looks fucking cold in those lines, I hope the all mighty government, has an evacuation plan for 15 million people, if that Nor'easter hits next week and they don't get this "all fixed" by then!!!!!!

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:07 | Link to Comment blu
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Your friend needs to also come up with a way to look cold and hungry when everyone else is, or else he's likely to have some splain'n to do. And people don't react kindly to folks that selfishly horde (as the unprepared like to call it). If you follow my drift.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:43 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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Yea my wife and I talk about that.

Cant look too clean, too fat or too healthy....wireless head phones are also useful.

 Funnily enough, the building we were in had a fire last week. We grabbed our grab bags and ran.

Eveyone else slowly plodded their way out. They were freezing their arse off, while we had all out loot, ID's, food in our back packs.

I would have thought that would have been warning enough...

 

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Thank you Blythe, for dumping 192,000,000 paper ounces of silver on the "market" in a ten minute span.  And a merry Christmas to you!!!

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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my neighbors would outright laugh at me for usually having 10-15 extra gallons in my garage that I cycle through.  Generally speaking, both my and my wife's car have full tanks and then there is the extra.  Not looking so silly now. 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Vincent Vega
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I make it a practice to not let my car go much below 1/2 tank.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:28 | Link to Comment J in Vegas
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Amen to that. After living in earthquake Cali I never let the gas tank get lower than 1/2.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:46 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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family rule: 1/2 tank = empty.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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2 is one & one is none...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:02 | Link to Comment The Gooch
Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:31 | Link to Comment The Shootist
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Sounds like you're all better men than I. I will say I've never run out of gas on the road though.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:17 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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i ran out of gas on the highway, pulled over, put on the warning blinkers and killed the battery in minutes.  i'm pretty much a pure kit carson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Carson

p.s. rescued by a south carolina highway patrolman (did have a credit card to buy the gas can and gas; he jump started the car).

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:52 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Williams

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:25 | Link to Comment CommunityStandard
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Make sure you have a locking gas cap, otherwise the extra gas won't do you any good.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:09 | Link to Comment yogibear
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I have seen people punch a hole in the gas tank. Fairly easy. 

Surprised someone hasn't done it to the cop cars.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 02:53 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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They hit a LEO lot (a large PD that has too many vehicles to park in their secured parking structure; they cut through razor wire on top of a fence and essentially ignored the surveillance cameras that were allegedly monitoring the lot real time-- apparently Crown Vics have large fuel tanks & the on site gas pumps are always full of taxpayer provided fuel at the cop shop) as well as a large municipal lot full of city vehicles, doing exactly what was described-- rolling under and punching holes in the tanks, in a dystopian urban area about 50 miles from where I live. I *think* that over 200 vehicles had their tanks punctured and petrol drained in this manner.

There also have been many incidences of snatch & grabs of catalytic convertors far and wide using handheld torches and some other relatively inexpensive tools. I wonder if Krugman believes platinum is barborous, too, or just the thieves who steal it in this manner.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:26 | Link to Comment JohnG
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Mine got popped off with (from the looks of the damage) a crowbar.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:48 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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I for one have a hard time finding sympathy, after the union pricks ran those boy's from Alabama off. Unfucking beliveible..

 

http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:49 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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Wow…paper work, because its not like its an emergency! Oh wait...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:00 | Link to Comment I Am Not a Copp...
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Amen to that.  I do the same.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:18 | Link to Comment unrulian
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I am not a copp...just an idiot

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:03 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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I'm tempted to call these people names....but they're just unexperienced stormers.   After a storm like this, just know you're not going back to life as usually in a couple of days.   Relax, let the morons fight over the biscuit in the dumpster and the last gallon of gas.   The Supply Chain will restart soon, thanks to enterprising humans (not FEMA).   Don't panic, and learn from the experience and never go into a storm with an empty pantry or gas tank.

Now...for those of you who live at an elevation of 24 inches, who seem shocked and offended that the government hasn't saved you...you need a reality check.   Maybe you should pay attention when real hurricane's hit the southern half of your country.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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I agree. These people are total rookies...from the top all the way down. They need the Governor of Florida to come up there and show them how it's done. It's a good thing there's a free market at play...half these people would be rioting if this form of Government were "in control." of course unlike all the other Hurricane Zones this one "comes with the biggest public transportation system in the world." one that is currently...inoperable. Democrats...YOUR FIRED.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:03 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Greened ya DV - these people are rookies and haven't a clue.  Total greed, 100+ year old infrastructure to preserve those profits made by raping the sheep, and now they reap the whirlwind, and somehow, it's someone else's fault - always, dumb human nature.  As the great George Carlin said, you know how dumb the average guy is - and half are dumber yet.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:01 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Take it from DC Fusor... He has a $40,000 book of matches that'll ingite in any scenario... The cavemen would have considered him a demi-god...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:29 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Hey you guys are all fucking awesome.  Fucking fucking awesome. I'm applauding how awesome you are.

There are single mom families down there in the cold wet dark you fucking fucks.  You think it's BLoomberg's niece on the beach?  It's working class hanging on to family lots in neighborhoods where they've duked it out for generations at the edge of the night in spite of the world, not on the backs of it, not on the blood of it.

Fuck you and your fucking oatmeal stashes and the fucking raccoons that guard it.  Go shoot your lonely selves already.  So sick and tired of the Itolduso's in their fucking EZ chairs with their libraries of cheerios and fuckin slim jims. 

The SHTF and guys like you have heart attacks alone under a dim light bulb two weeks in Cootersville and your tree falls in the fucking woods and no one hears it. 

but do the world a favor and don't tell anyone where you've hidden your extra beans and diesel to run your fucking jeep wrangler because no one cares.

+37 for that horseshit?!  Fuck you all and your redemption fantasies. 

 

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:13 | Link to Comment merizobeach
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"you fucking fucks."

You sound so bitter that I can only laugh heartily and say, "time to die, bitchy bitchbag!"

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:24 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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+1 for the BLADE RUNNER reference...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:50 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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LOL... Look PAF... I'm pretty sure your comment wasn't directed towards francis_sawyer (or maybe it was)... Either way, it doesn't matter...

The point is this...

The human & emotional concerns addressed in your comment are not unnoticed... However ~ some people are going to make it & some people won't... Where I drive around (NOT in a Chevy Volt), I've easily seen a half dozen dead raccoons & some deer as roadkill just in the past week... It happens all the time I suppose... It's a tough world out there (unless you're sophisticated enough to bathe yourself in the falsehood of Bernanke [aka - 'JEWBUCKS'], which, defy ALL perpetual laws of extinction &, instead of KILLING you, turn you into a DEBT ZOMBIE SLAVE in JEW servitude for your pithy goyim life)...

But I digress...

I'm not, on balance, CRITICAL of 'preppers' sharing their stories... I just like to toss a few "YUK YUK's" at DC Fusor [who is a twerp that thinks the solution to all this is to OVERPAY for a government ~ aka 'taxpayer' ~ subsidized POS that capriciously combusts on ignition ~ powered by 30 year old technology which is likely well past its expiration date... It's just FUN & AMUSING (a skill which happens to transcend armageddon episodes)...

As for the 'Armageddon Episodes' which confront Staten Island (or the '9th ward', a few years back)... I hate to sound callous, but that's THEIR dilemma to deal with at the moment... If they were my neighbor... I would not hesitate to open up the granary... But I'm here & they're there...

I doubt ANYONE around here (ZH) is a I TOLD YOU SO goat... It just sounds that way... But I'm a DICK (trying NOT to be someone else's raccoon tail on their cap)... So junk away...

 

 

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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PAFlasher.  I respect your position.  I'm not reading a lack of compassion in these comments here.  This is ZH after all.  We aren't going onto a Girl Scout blog site and saying the things we say here.   As for the single mom's with children, I put my money where my mouth is when it comes to charities and compassion giving.  I'm sure those mothers with children will be better prepared the next time around, because that's the way we all learn.  That's not being heartless.  It's just a fact.

ps. If you're really on Park Ave, your'e close enough to go help those mothers.  Most of us on this site aren't within walking distance of Staten Island.

ps #2. oatmeal is actually a great food to stash.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:21 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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ps #3

If there were any good looking 'prospects' in those gas lines... 5 gallons could have EASILY been procured by creative means... WELCOME TO THE APOCALYPSE...

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:59 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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The irony of course is that it's gasoline and diesel that's keeping the City alive. People talk "peak oil" but it was the response to dealing with peak oil (subways) that have collapsed lower Manhattan...oil actually has saved it.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 06:55 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Is alive and well

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Renewable Life
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Friends, I'm a proud prepper and self reliant type, but a total breakdown of society of more then 3 days, in 30 degree temps, and a messily 15-25 gallons of fuel won't be shit!!!

What is going on out in the UEC right now, is massive, and beyond simple common sense fuel practices!! Most these people probably had 15-25 gallons in there garage or cars they siphoned two days ago!!!

Most of these portable genny's they have will eat 15-25 gallons a day running non stop, these people are on day 5!!! With no end in sight!! They should have left to go stay with family or friends, now they are trapped, no fuel left, snow coming and freezing at night, this shit might be just getting started!!!!!!!!

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:52 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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Now now. Ain't no time to use logic or reason!

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 23:34 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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the gennys won't eat that much if they cut down the fucking amps to what they NEED... Maybe they'll learn something in the process... Not my problem to solve...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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Without gasoline, Americans die.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:17 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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With iGadgets, Americans die, too. Sheeple just can't win.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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Actually, more Americans died with iRak, and even more will die with upcoming iRan...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:22 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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I ever tell you about the asshole that had 4 gens of perfectly functioning iPads and he still went out and bought the mini, just to be completist? 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:32 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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Sad to think about those guys sent to die overseas under the pretext of protecting THIS guy you talk about... yeah...

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:12 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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both are acting voluntarily, even with the pre-Text option.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:47 | Link to Comment john39
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How many Iraqis died when the United States decided that Iraq needed some freedom, not once, but twice?  yeah it sucks for the americans sent TO IRAQ... but lets face it, the Iraqis would have preferred that they were never bombed and invaded...      when America goes down, hope to God that the rest of the world forgives the american people for the sins of the government and the military industrial complex and all the useful idiots who went along with them.

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 02:45 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Sadly, an engineered collapse will likely involve foreign or UN troops being puppetted by revenge for what by then will be over half a century of war crimes.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:06 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Enjoyed driving my solar charged Volt today, bitchez.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:18 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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I doubt you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed driving my 2012 Dodge 2500 with a turbo diesel that gets 15mpg.  Its a fucking rocket (with the programmer and exhaust I put on it) that could carry your volt in its bed. :)

....and I have a big penis.  :P

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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The Dodge 2500 diesel does not get 15 mpg it only gets 10mpg , come on tell the truth.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:47 | Link to Comment takinthehighway
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My '98 Dodge 3500 with Cummins and automatic gets 24.9 highway mileage and averages nearly 20 all around.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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Yours is a 98 if you look the gas mialage goes down with the newer models, I had a 97 1500 v8 and it got 20 mpg , but if you get better milage you pay less tax sooooo , you got it fuck the planet , the only way to save the planet is to get rid of the physopaths.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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It gets 15 mph if you add 5mg of viagra to each tankfull. Otherwise your lucky to get 9 in the city.

But I've got a woodie just thinking of getting a diesel someday...soon.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:33 | Link to Comment CPL
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http://www.ecomodder.com

 

Believe me, you want another 10-40 mpg out of a car or truck, pick a model or ask a question from the other hypermiling/mod enthusiasts.  

First trick to getting better gas mileage though is fixing the nut behind the wheel.  Technology counts for shit if you don't have the process down.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:55 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Good laugh, Powerz.  I have a truck too, for when I need one.  Can your truck really carry a 3700 lb plus Volt in its bed?  Why then do I see so many of them having to tow a mere ATV?

Of course, also laughing at the  vanity in the title - "A nation" isn't the largely-corrupt (just to quote the Tylers) north-eastern seaboard, there are others of us who outnumber them by a very goodly bit. 

No, I don't mean to be insensitive to their woes, just that hey - shit happens to us all, but we don't get the press when it does.  Not sure which is cause and which is effect, but we "out here" tend to be a lot more ready (less dependent)  than dense city-dwellers so it's just another one, no big deal for many of us.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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The Chevy Volt is taxpayer-charged, not solar-charged... It is immoral to own one.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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DCFusor THANKYOU .

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 20:38 | Link to Comment Matt
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How self-sufficient would you be, if instead of acres, you had a 50' X 100' Lot? Or an 800 sqft apartment? By having land and less rules, that allows you to have the self-sufficiency that people in an urban environment would be hard pressed to have. 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Living in the city is a bet that the center will hold.  I think that is an increasingly risky vote.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 18:09 | Link to Comment blu
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i loled

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 00:58 | Link to Comment OldPhart
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I doubt either of you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed driving my 1948 F-3 Stakebed.  I learned to drive, at 9, in this very truck.  Four speeds, from granny gear to '3rd', and double clutching for every gear change.

At twelve I would haul two tons, 4000 pounds, of alfalfa on it when we bought feed (Dad was overseas so I had to do this kind of stuff).

This truck is the same as the same day it was purchased back in '64 other than two boards in the center that broke when we put an 8' diameter culvert pipe on it in '74.

Needs a bit of work these days, though.  Burns/leaks about a quart of oil every two days.  And it's exempt from California law so the smoke is kind of an extra turn on as I pass a cop.  Even better, MPG is about 8.

I LOVE this truck!

 

Sat, 11/03/2012 - 01:29 | Link to Comment cbxer55
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And no one would enjoy a volt if they had a 2004 Ford Lightning with a 450 hp roots- blown V-8 under the hood. 

I DO!  ;-)

And an 1800 cc motorcycle that'll outrun anything out there while getting near 50 mpg. Priceless.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:19 | Link to Comment unrulian
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don't drive in through a puddle it might catch fire

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:56 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Tested that by GM and by me in the floods we had awhile back.  No issues.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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I enjoyed having a choice between my Cummins powered Dodge pickup and Honda Civic - both paid for (and together cost less than you POS Volt with enough left over to buy more than 6k gallons of gas).

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 16:58 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Good for you, I bought my Volt with a check because I had the money because I know value when I see it and know how to trade.  Will those vehicles last long enough to use that 6k gal of gas?

Or are they old beaters?

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Didn't you say you leased your Volt in some earlier post?

Regarding the gas - I doubt the calculation will hold for the lives of either vehicle as fuel costs will continue to rise.  As to the condition of each - the Civic has about 70k on it right now - I'd expect it to get me past 250k easily.  By the time it is beyond economic repair, I have my doubts as to the reliability of our petrolium infrastructure anyway.  The CTD is in good shape with about 230k.  I'm expecting to get more than 500k out of that engine before rebuilding it.  At my current useage rate, it should last me the rest of my life.  =]

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:01 | Link to Comment knukles
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I drive a Jag and couldn't care less about shit like this.

 

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 17:05 | Link to Comment DCFusor
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Tee Hee - yup.  Works until it doesn't.  Yes, I know humor when I see it.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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'Tee Hee'?

Yeah, I know a little girl when I see one.

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 15:12 | Link to Comment walküre
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Surely waiting in line next Tuesday to vote is going to be a priority.

What the fuck is wrong with this country? Does anything work?

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