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After The Flood Comes The Freeze: "Tens Of Thousands Need Housing" Says Cuomo, As Nor'Easter Approaches
First the flood, now the freeze (and the lack of fuel and gas and heating just making it much worse). And for tens of thousands of residents of New York and New Jersey this means that as many as 40,000 will need to find alternative housing, especially ahead of Wednesday when a Nor'easter formation is expected to hit the Tristate area and bring even more freezing rain and cold to the region. From Reuters: "Tens of thousands of people affected by superstorm Sandy could soon need housing as cold weather descends on the state of New York, Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Sunday. Cuomo, in a televised press conference nearly a week after the storm hit the U.S. East Coast, said the fuel shortages are improving but problems will persist for "a number of days."" Elsewhere, and also from Reuters: "Victims of superstorm Sandy on the U.S. East Coast struggled against the cold early on Sunday amid fuel shortages and power outages even as officials fretted about getting voters displaced by the storm to polling stations for Tuesday's presidential election. Overnight, near-freezing temperatures gripped the U.S. northeast. At least two more victims were found in New Jersey, one dead of hypothermia, as the overall death toll from one of worst storms in U.S. history climbed to at least 112. Fuel supplies continued to rumble toward disaster zones and electricity was slowly returning to darkened neighborhoods after a storm that hit the coast last Monday. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it would be days before power is fully restored and fuel shortages end."
All of this will be exacerbated as a Nor'easter moves along the Eastern Seaboard and is expected to hit New Jersey and New York in several days:
A "significant" nor'easter is likely to hit Sandy-battered areas of the Northeast by Thursday, the National Weather Service said in an update Sunday.
FEMA and Red Cross officials have ordered more resources ahead of the storm, while New York City is dealing with a shortage of fuel oil and steam to heat buildings as temperatures began dipping into the 20s and power remained out for hundreds of thousands.
At the very least, the service's prediction center stated, there is "a very real possibility of heavy rain and strong winds along the coast from Virginia to Maine."
Snow is likely in the interior and some models "do bring some snow all the way to the coast as far south as Virginia," it warned.
That all of this is happening two days ahead of the presidential election is merely adding to the chaos:
President Barack Obama, neck-and-neck in opinion polls with Republican challenger Mitt Romney, ordered emergency response officials to cut through government "red tape" and work without delay to help affected areas return to normal.
Officials have expressed concern about getting voters displaced by Sandy to polling stations for Tuesday's election. Scores of voting centers were rendered useless by the record surge of seawater in New York and New Jersey.
New Jersey is allowing voters displaced by Sandy to vote by email. Some voters in New York could be casting their ballots in tents.
An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released on Sunday found that 68 percent of those surveyed approved of how Obama handled Sandy and just 15 percent disapproved.
"I'm not thinking about the election too much right now," said Frank Carrol, 59, a retired New York City transit worker who lives in Staten Island. He planned to vote, but did not know if his local polling station would even be open. "We'll stop by and see what happens," Carrol said.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie ordered county clerks to open on Saturday and Sunday to accommodate early voters and ensure a "full, fair and transparent open voting process."
And while most appear content with the crisis response to date, with the apex being Mayor Bloomberg's cancellation of the marathon due to massive popular outcry (we are confident all those who spoke up are now taking part in the recovery efforts), the DOE just announced that 25% of New Jersey is still without power. This led to Martial Law being declared in the town of Seaside Heights which has been totally destroyed, as we showed in the Hurricane Sandy before and after satellite pics.
We expect more regions of NJ to be declared uninhabitable in the coming days as the situation continues to deteriorate.
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Oh, no! The amusemnt pier!
The life is over!
Jersey Shore, Snooki gone?
Need larger more responsive gubamint
There was a cheer from the younger generation in our household to hear that maybe the "Jersy Whore" was no more.
What!?!?!?!
Little traitors, barbarians, cultural misfits!
Yeah, mine were "like, whatever..."
Dad, you really haven't been watching that.... Dad?
(eyes rolling)
Not to worry that ObamaPhone will keep you warm
E'ERY BODY IN CLE'LAND GOT OBAMAPHONE!
LMAO but we have created a new subset language consisting of tonal clicks, pops, hyphenated abbreviations and digitized text messages....
:-)
In three or four generations the vocal cords of the texters should be atrophied enough that they can no longer speak, and when they do it will be primal utterances and inflections...
Wool is the only material that retains body heat wet or dry in any temperature. Just don't get it wet or you'll gain 150 lbs of water instantly. Don't live in a hurricane zone. No swimming with wool clothing. I should have posted those tips for New Yawkers a few days ago. My bad.
Disclaimer: Long sheep shearing. Ooops... the government already has that market wrapped up.
Silk and polypropelene brocade are both a bit better, if you want to be technical.
Maybe, but they don't wear (last) as long, I have some heavy wool "Johnson" (Vermont made) jackets that I have been wearing for 30 years now,,, they are great for working out in the barn, breaths when you sweat and keeps you warm when you stop working and take a break.... the wool has been felted so it stops most of the wind from passing thru the jacket, the "fleece", new shit doesn't hold up under real work conditions, though I have used it as a under-layer on really cold days.
You know someone is from the Northeast Kingdom when you see them downhill skiing in their wool Johnson's......
Only 46 days til December 21, not including the extra hour of turnback time last night. Keep the booze closet well stocked.
It seems to keep disappearing as fast as I can buy it.
That shit evaporates fast !!!
Damn KIDS!!!!!!
I'm not worried. All that back, butt and thigh fat will keep them warm.
Put them up at Goldman (ball)Sachs, I heard they have back up power capabilities and great lighting too. Also, try the New York Fed, should have plenty of room in the vaults, cozy.
"First the flood, now the freeze..."
State error (no Plan A flood defence) compounds upon State error (no zero-defence back-up Plan B) compounds upon State error (if A happens, and we've got no B, what the fuck is C ?)
the Govt turkeys are flapping around the farmyard like headless chickens, but no worries the relief funds are rolling in, not that NY has a clue where to spend money productively
Govt: you couldn't make this shit up if you tried
Another great excuse for govts to hire a lot more people......'oh, we couldn't help cause we are underfunded and undermanned '
Fuck me
You self serving prick...
You be bleating long and loud about goverment handout to crony contractors if some program as proposed prior to this or god forbid some new dedicated tax was mentioned...
Face it, you just hate everything and would rather throw molotovs from the cheap seats....
why so mad, bruh!
Because he has been a duplicitous bag of shit for a long time here...
Flaak, i hereby nominate you 'ZH Bagholder of All Truth'
oh, i see you've already taken the Throne awarding yourself the title
Now you've taken the job grab a mirror, what do you see?
If the reflected dipshit looks like a scientifically illiterate fat mouthed twat your judgement is pretty near spot on
Hey, at least I don't create posts containing stuff that is simply made up...
You are about as scientifically literate as this guy
Georgia Rep. Paul Broun calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell - PoliticoBack to back hurricane and nor'easter.. Odd bc elections are in days?
Long cemetery plots!
go Long social division and economic oblivion
...any country with a Govt in it
Maybe the National Guard is needed right here at home. I never believed that they had any business off our shores.
Maybe if the Red Cross didn't siphon off the profits from its blood business, they'd have resources for disaster relief.
THE BLOOD BROKERS - HOW BLOOD,
THE 'GIFT OF LIFE,' BECAME A BILLION-DOLLAR BUSINESS
http://www.bloodbook.com/part-1.html
That is still the image the Red Cross portrays in its advertising and solicitations. "When people are in trouble, the American Red Cross gets down to business - the emergency-services business. It's what we do best," the Red Cross said in its 1986 annual report.
But tax records and financial statements show that, a century after its founding, the Red Cross' main business is no longer disaster relief.
Its main business is selling blood.
if you wanna find the Red Cross and the National Guard, go to where the power just got turned back on and the cameras are rollin...seriously.
People in the tri-state area really doesn't need to vote... their states are gonna go to Obama anyways.
Yep, any State that's crumbling is a Democrat stronghold
..misery and socialism, a marriage made in Hell which is precisely where they're heading
Vote 'Migration' ...the best political policy to avoid socio-economic suicide through the ages
Yeah, like how all those Blue states subsidize the Red ones... Cal. gets 80 cents on the dollar back, shitholes like MS get $2.24 back.... Texas is the only significant Red State that is below par (by all of 2 cents)
You truly live in a fuckin' bubble, don't you...
Mississippi is Food Stamp Redemption Center ! Highest participation due to Obama voters !
Monedas, you are wrong on both counts..
This is the link to USDA SNAPS data by states (you can also see other data about this program via the link)
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-...
Mississippi is NOT a "Food Stamp Redemption Center"..... it usage appears to be moderate compared to states like California and Florida.
And Huff Post's Obama vs Romney electoral maps... as you can see Romney is expected to take Mississippi, in case you don't understand that is why it is "colored red"...... (duhhhhhhh....)
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map
now you've thrown a rat by talking fact into his delicious, murky ducky soup!
Flak, you may have jumped the gun me old fat mouthed chum/p... where'd i state anything about red/blue State subsidies? I can barely name any US States, let alone know their budgets, i'm not even sure wether GOP is blue or red or Dems are, so why would I gob off in your typical stylee about something i know next to nothing about?
you're just trigger happy, you must work for the US Foreign Office!
what i do know is places like Detroit are shitholes and have been voting Democrat urban regeneration by the socialist subsidised model for decades ...and they're still shitholes. Socialists in cushy Govt jobs, the poor still poor, no progress (see also USSR, Commie China or North Korea etc)
Promises, promises eh? ...bit like Bumma, promised the most, delivered fuck all but the biggest Govt bill/debt in leftie-loon history... socialism down the ages, like a moron banging his head against a brick wall expecting something good to happen next time he tries the same old technique of debt-spend, debt-spend, debt-spend, broke!!
Don't let that prick your leftist bubble though, that belief system that keeps promising equality and delivering miserable rotten bankruptcy for all in every nation it's tried and broken.
What's the IQ of a socialist? Who cares, it's all about humming other peoples age-old hand-me-down ignorant mantras. Who needs a brain for that, certainly not you Flak
Flakmeister, you are a liar.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/cffr-10.pdf
2010 Consolidated Federal Funds report which tracks how much each state receives. Table 13 shows total Federal expenditure by state- California received $333,809,000,000.
http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats---Gross-Collections,-by-Type-of-Tax-and-State,-Fiscal-Year---IRS-Data-Book-Table-5
IRS data on what was received from each state-California received $273,353,106,000.
In your universe this actually means California pays $1.00 and gets back .80? Either you are an idiot or have no idea what you are talking about- California receives $1.22 for every dollar sent. Learn how math works, and by all means shut up.
It is a somewhat questionable statistic as it counts all money- for example all of the scumbag New York retirees that infect Florida and other Southern states greatly inflate the money that goes there when most actual residents of those states don't want them there. Be that as it may, you are still completely wrong.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/federal-taxes-paid-vs-federal-spending-received-state-1981-2005
This includes all transfers
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/is-your-state-a-net-giver-or-taker-of-federal-taxes/
Here is recent less comprehensive article
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/is-your-state-a-net-giver-or-taker-of-federal-taxes/
Do you want to play semantics?
What semantics? You're a liar, plain and simple. You are parroting complete nonsense and clearly lack even the most basic intellectual curiosity to delve into things before accepting them as fact. That Tax Foundation "study" is so horrifically flawed in terms of methodolgy that a freshman at a Tier 6 Community College would fail Transgendered Armenian Cultural Studies for submitting something that piss poor. I've actually looked at it, I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were too lazy to do so or you wouldnt use it. Look at their "sources"- feel free to dig into what Tax Foundation report #158 is that they cite as a source. They also distort the figure terribly by figuring in the cost of deficit funding- as if that will ever be repaid by anyone at any time or has any relevence at all to the topic.
The second blog you put up is also complete shit- it gives no links to any actual data, just some dipstick posting whatever they feel like.
I put up original source data you put up unsubstantiated, unsourced, and throughly distorted nonsense. For a guy that goes on about science so much, your research skills leave alot to be desired. There is no sematic argument here- I put up hard original source data, you put up spin that no doubt you will defend to the death because you cant be bothered to dig into the reality of the situation and it backs up your sociopolitical views.
I would assume there are plenty of deceased voters participating this year to more than make up for it. It's kinda crazy they all like Obama.
Free market amusement pier workers out of work .... FEMA fat assers rakin' in the overtime and expense and cash grant perks .... toasty warm and having three buffets per diem at the Taj Mahal (sp? Angus?) !
buy the dip in temperatures
Here is a open invitation to all those pricks that said Sandy would be a nothing burger to show your faces....
Just got back from Queens to deal with my handicapped B-I-L...
Fortunately power came back last night...
Edit: Hey Orly, you got enough fuckin' bodies to call this a real storm now? you ignorant bitch....
Orly is a dude ! Only "her" notarized pap smear will convince me otherwise !
Hey FM.... chill out with the insults, I usually enjoy reading your post but calling Orly a "bitch" is bad form... calling her ignorant is spot on however!!! lol
Yeah to a point, but there are people here that say shit that has to be called out...
NWEMVM or whatever that fuckface calls himself is also in that camp... I hope he fuckin' drowns the next time a 'cane hits where he is down in Crackerville... the resultant world will be a much less hateful place...
First you call out the brothers in MS and now you are onto the Crackers in Florida, typical arrogant New Yorker. Don't bitch at us Flak call out your fucking slime Mayor and all your fat ass public unions. I am Ricky Bobby and I am a proud Cracker.
Me and that cracker go way back.... I have no issue with you, and suggest that you mind your own business...
And all I pointed out was that MS gets $2.24 back from the Feds for every dollar they kick in, sorry if the truth hurts...
PS That piece of shit referred to himself as a "cracker" long before I ever did....
Far worse has gone through other areas, you whiny fucks just dont have the mental ability to prepare or handle the aftermath.
New Yorkers are legends in their own minds but a joke everywhere else.
you can always pray for the red cross
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or at least give them some money so someone can do something
Yea, they have a huge office building....its quite plush, i've seen it.
This whole thing, is now an industry of its own...
FEMA budget dwarfs private charities who survive on donations !
That's a good thing actually. Imagine the FEMA budget matching the DOD budget.
You mean kneel to the Red Cross and beg them?
The Red Cross? Puhlllleaase. Immediately after the terraist attacks of 9-11 citizens donatee more than $500 million to the Red Cross. In response to the tragedy and the immense inflow of cash donations the Red Cross quickly announced they would spend $90 million on a new phone system so they could more efficiently collect more donations.
The Salvation Army, does more with every dollar recieved than any other aid organization, PERIOD.
Doesn't the head of the Red Cross pull in like $800,000? And own a couple mansions?
Does it frighten anyone here to know that Occupy is providing some of the most efficient survice to victims? Occupy Sandy is a huge opperation and will only get bigger. People will remember who was kept warm and who was left in the cold.
What is occupy doing? Shitting on the beach?
Roll Michael Moore in the sand .... then fuck the wet spot !
in the end, the facts will speak for themselves, even if they are not allowed to speak.
Nothing matters. Go vote bitchezz. Govt will take care of you is all you need to know. Soon the FEMA trains will roll in to take care of you all.
REDCROSS = Raping thru Donations.
Northeast should get Apple Phones to keep them happy and ban the 32oz Drinks. Fucking idiots .
Union Bitchezz. Its over, death panels are in place.
Red Cross is in Syria and Lebanon and New York and New Jersey .... where is the fucking Red Crescent ? They only help Muslims, Allah Ahkbar breath ?
Why not open Gracie Mansion as a shelter. Bloomberg doesn't live there anyway. Christie can come over and cook hot dogs for everyone and the mayor can make sure that people don't drink too much soda so there's enough to go around.
Billy Bloomberg likes to drink soda. Mrs. Christie's car is green.
Impeccable timing for this
http://www.skyfall.fr/wp-content/2012/10/grinstead-pnas-2012.pdf
The evidence is starting to emerge, AGW will produce more storms...
So it must be a coincidence that of the 7 busiest seasons (named storms), 3 have been 2010, 2011, 2012 with 2005 the busiest ever...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricane_records#Highest_number_of_named_storms
Rises in cancer and storms and child abuse are because we never tracked this shit before on a world wide, 24/7 basis !
Sandy's body count is now significant; if the cold hits and gas and electricity stay off, this could get much worse. I hear in NJ people are locked up without gas n electricity and using their firewood to cook their meals. I guess NY Manhattan has more options but some of those back door communities...
The plan, population control is coming true. Wet Dreams of Gates, Bloomturd and many more
This whole scenario reminds me of this..
New cold war in Europe as Russia turns off gas supplies- Wednesday 07 January 2009
Same games, different year. One of these days, the guy/woman won’t be laughing so hard when they are faced with panic.
The electricity is out, and it is very cold outside. Without electrcicity my fridge does not work, so I will siphon the gas out of my car to put in my generator so that I can run my fridge to keep parishables cold. Now that I have no gas for my car how do I run my car to charge my cell phone, or drive it to the gas station to wait in line to buy more gas? Where is the government to help me?
It's cold outside and you're worried that your refrigerator doesn't work. Am I missing something here?
Irony
i suggest you talk to your family and friends. if you have none, take your food to the local red cross centre and go do the rounds of the homeless with them.
The objective is for them to let you down, while at the same time increasing your dependency on them. This is a land cleansing that is being done, at scientific, engineered event (via haarp heating of the ionosphere) to remove the people from the land. This is being deliberately engineered to condition you the Joe public to accept semi-martial law control, confiscation of your land (under the guise you are not safe).
You better realize really damn fast that was the whole objective - to make you hopelessly dependent on them, so that when the services were cut (water, power, sewer, police, local food stores..) that it would be easy to get you to give up and move out, and relocate you into government camps (FEMA).
Notice that FEMA will do little to *nothing* to help you where you are, but will spend billions to make sure that you can be housed somewhere under their administrative control.
I can house 6 New Yourker's for $500 each per day with a minumum 30 day contract cash upfront.
"We expect more regions of NJ to be declared uninhabitable" How is that news. I knew this 30 years ago.
It's going to be OK. Bloomberg is giving out free blankets.
"New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it would be days before power is fully restored and fuel shortages end."
Yea... Right! Just like his brain dead boss on "1600 Pennsylvania ave." said the recession ended in 2010. General rule of thumb for govt. promises. multiply (time taken) X 3 and divide (quality of service) by 2.
Exactly Yen Cross ! It doesn't take too much research to go back to hurricane Floyd in the early 2000's. It too was a Cat 1 and rained 3 days before the eye of the hurricane arrived. Rivers and creeks rose an engulfed homes and stores. People died and many left homeless. Those that were left homeless were eventually placed into FEMA trailers and lived in them for well over a year. Many did not have electricity for weeks. Repeatedly ...hurricane after hurricane the end result is the same and yet people still do not prepare. As the days pass the worse it will get for the unprepared. Where I live at neighbor looks out for neighbor and not wait for government to come to the rescue.
more the levee breaks, more the song remains the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtVKz0rv4cg
Watching government slowly get strangled by it's own creation while people who have allowed themselves to be put in a position of slave to master, infant to mother relationship, must of course bear the brunt of the suffering.
The path to freedom FROM a leviathan government to something more manageable (yes, we must learn to manage them) is going to be thorny.
Is that you Honey?
Did you forget about the corporate leviathan, you know, the puppet masters?
"Did you forget about the corporate leviathan, you know, the puppet masters?"
I bet you even voted early for your puppet too. the circus is looking for a contortionist, mental will do, they are desperate.
The Ayn Rand society is holding a nationwide circle jerk and you are invited...
Don't pass that up!
"The Ayn Rand society is holding a nationwide circle jerk and you are invited"
Really? been there have ya? let me guess, cum laude vessel are you? Getting good at pegging you am I?
Um, yea, never read the book, never seen the movie but unlike you I am able to form a rational core understanding of the world without the influence of dopey professors. One day when you move out of your Aunts garage and get a job, live life, love a woman, raise happy productive well adjusted children and make positive contributions to your fellow man you will look back on this time and blush....or you will just continue being a douche bag, probably the later.
+10. Phenomenal. Side note, what is with the liberal Ayn Rand shadowboxing? There is no counterpoint...Paul Ryan doesn't exactly constitute a Randian movement. All the endless rand bashing does is underline the credibility of the sane parts of Rand's work (i.e., it might actually be more rewarding and beneficial to society to go out and build something and be paid handsomely for it than to be a parasite living off the scraps of other people's industriousness..) than it does to undermine the not so sane parts. I think all these Rand haters must just have an abiding fear that she was right about them being useless, pathetic, success-despising douches that history will forget entirely before they push up their first daisy...
Thank you. Why the hell do these people think it's the government's job to come swaddle them and pay them off for the idiocy of living in uninsured houses in flood zones? The entitlement mentaility is so deeply entrenched it's like these people really believe it's the government's responsibility to protect us from every kind of misfortune we can possibly encounter in life and if fate screws them in any way they should get a fat check. WTF? I'd love for Christie to tell all those that were at least intelligent enough to be insured, stop fucking whining, be glad you're alive and deal with it. Shit happens to all of us. When it does you should depend on your family, your friends and neighbors to get you through it and if you have no one or nobody will help you it's because you've been a shitty, self-absorbed asshole who's done nothing for anyone else... If that's been your choice, then you desrve to have to suck it up and count on yourself to bail yourself out. My town got rocked by Sandy too, my place was okay but if it wasn't I definitely wouldn't be waiting around for fucking FEMA or the RED CROSS to save me or going apoplectic about what a victim I am in a media interview...I'd be going about the business of picking up the damn pieces of my life, tapping my savings from working a job I don't love and not living beyond my means, eating the canned goods I stocked up on prior to the storm, and being damn glad that at this point I still have some semblance of freedom and can wipe my own ass without the government telling me I have to do it back to front.
Ayn Rand is about as useful as J.R.R. Tolkiens' "The Hobbit" to form the basis of a cogent politcal economic philosophy....
Yeap Hitler is laughing his azz off.
If you allow yourself to become dependent on government, then you are...dependent on government.
Are you really surprised when...they decide you aren't worth much?
Time for FEMA to shine!!!!!!!
</sarc>
Activate the camps! Is the barbed wire perimeter fence finished?
FEMA will spend *no* money on helping people get back into their homes but hundreds of millions on controllable relocation shelters where the citizens can be managed and controlled. A engineered relocation event. By using HAARP ionospheric heating they can create this hurricane fire it at New York, and relocate the poverty pockets that they want gone. Simply do not bring services (by services I mean cops, water, power, infrastructure) back to the area that you want cleansed. The people are eventually forced out out of necessity because they have been starved, crime looted, sat in their own sewer, frozen etc.
You are in a battle to see if they can remove you and yours from your land - permanently as they successfully did in Hurricane Katrina. Prepare for months and a whole winter without power.
And the elite *need* those on the TV going 'where is my government where are my services!' They want the public to join that discontented discourse instead of realizing that they are completely on their own because well really there are lots of elite people with lots of elite money that would like to see the area turned into a nice park.
Hurry, someone call Snake Plissken!
President Obama discusses the aging technology of our current electrical grid and explains how stimulus funds can help us develop a new grid which saves energy and creates jobs. -2011
Here comes the next Sandy QE 4 steps to loot the public in developing new stimulus shovel ready jobs..
http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/10/29/nyregion/100000001873810/bloomberg-speaks-on-hurricane-sandy.html?ref=nyregion#100000001873810
No one seems to ask these government elected public servants a simple question. Will they take a salary reduction to absorb the cost of expansion? Marxist Democracy always sells the need for you to collectively pay the entire project. Typically without presenting a budget, any cost overruns are subject to new tax increases. Open taxpayer checkbook policy is how the pieces of shit operate.
Yawn....
Hmmmmm.... more bullshit and disinformation about what Martial Law really is. Martial Law occurs when the military siezes power from the civilian government for one reason or another and imposes it's own rule. True Martial Law isn't something that is "declared" by a civilian government that is still in power. Anybody want to debate this?
They should have declard martial law in NY and let the military run Wall Street. ;) You bet your bottom Dollar nobody would be left powerless, hungry or cold. Bentley gets the same amount of gas as the Malibu.
Sure I'll debate this, have you considered that at least two American lawmakers have stated on the record that, in their opinion, Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 legalizes or authorizes martial law in the United States.
edit section 1031 was later renamed 1021, this is also the section the former NYT writer Chris Hedges filed a law suit against.....
Also, "Martial law on the national level may be declared by Congress or the president. Under Article I, Section 8, Clause 15, of the Constitution, Congress has the power "[t]o provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel Invasions." Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, of the Constitution declares that "[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States." Neither constitutional provision includes a direct reference to martial law. However, the Supreme Court has interpreted both to allow the declaration of martial law by the president or Congress."
Further, on the state level, a governor may declare martial law within her or his own state. The power to do so usually is granted in the state constitution.
Let's consider these two lines from the Wikipedia definition... "Martial Law is the imposition of military rule by military authorities over designated regions on an emergency basis." and "In full-scale martial law, the highest-ranking military officer would take over, or be installed, as the military governor or as head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government."
I'm arguing about the definition of Martial Law, which I believe has been inlated and distorted. What most people think of as Martial Law (ie a civilian government "declaring" it, and ordering troops into the streets) is really something else. Call it whatever you like, but if it isn't delcared by the military and it doesn't displace civilian authority, it isn't really Martial Law.
We already know you've pinned all your hopes on REAL martial law.
Give it up. It ain't coming. There's no tooth fairy, either.
If you want change, you're going to have to get off your ass and do it yourself.
And who is the head of the US military? Who has the title of Commander in Chief??????? And yes a US Federal declaration of martial law (by the Commander in Chief) does displace civilian authority.... in those situations you will see US Military troop, the marines and army with boots on the ground on US soil....... check ou the Posse Comitatus Act.... the only way that can happen is with declaration of martial law by the commander in chief.... the head of the US Armed Forces.
Heck of a job, Bloomie.
If I wanted to clear out a poverty pocket - Like the New Orleans poor district, or in this case Queens, New York, and I was in the Illuminati with an agenda to do so, this is how I would do it.
A. I'd order the military scientists to heat the ionosphere in particular regions to deliberately create a tropical storm and fuel it into a hurricane (www.weatherwars.info)
B. Once the hurricane is created direct it towards an area of land where I want to cleanse and remove all the people.
C. Order FEMA and my Puppet President of the Day to *not* send help for a at least a week, minimal food (hot chocolate and cookies) Ensure FEMA does the necessary cataloging.
D. Order the local law enforcement chief to remove all police presence in an area, the intention to fully make the area uninhabitable, via sky rocketing crime.
E. Have the media silent on the issue so people are not aroused and unite to bring help.
F. Remove all permits under the guise of safety in the area preventing people from being able to return. Ensure that this is enforced, but nothing else.
G. Over time by ensuring that services are not brought back to the poverty pockets they should by lack of resources alone turn on each other and make the area uninhabitable. Those pushed should turn to crime and get caught up in the net and can be used as prison slave labour (wackenhut), or a servant bond class in whatever areas that they move towards.
H. It is important that all reliance on nationality is broken down (events like these are designed to further create mistrust between the people and their government,) thus when the UN Global Government is enacted with One Religion, One Government, One Currency, the national governments are reduced to merely administrative control bodies to do our bidding - gee Bob just like the EU - go figure!
Events like these can serve the function very well, and can double as cleansing operations.
well thought out, someone's been paying attention to the larger picture (*cough* agenda)
I'll add just a little twist for flavour,
once the right coast is destabilised, the left coast can heat up to provide a further distraction, also playing into the "twenty-twelve" meme, thus ensuring the rapture crews turn up their volumes, as apocalyptic horses thunder above, and the narrative deepens. . .
http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html
So few....
I'll take this anyday over AGW
"the left coast can heat up"
The LEFT coast haha. As i posted above...
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/elevated-fire-danger-for-sout...
If that site is correct then they are still mucking with the ionosphere to bring in a second storm? Definitely want the structure and land cleaned of people in some areas then.
Tighten those chin straps buddy....
You've been outed and you are now on the list....
Busted at "A."
The energy to fuel tropical cyclones comes from water, not air.
Well done....
The water in the water or the water in the air?
News flash, idiot, you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Our scientists can't even predict the weather let alone direct it.
Making shit up again I see...
Did you see the predictions for Sandy's path when it was a wee little bugger south of Jamaica???
But, I will grant you that we do not have a clue about controlling it to any measure...
"The twelve patents below are the backbone of the HAARP project, and are now buried among the thousands of others held in the name of Raytheon. Bernard J. Eastlund's U.S. Patent # 4,686,605, "Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere; and/or Magnetosphere," was sealed for a year under a government Secrecy Order."
Maybe start here : www.HAARP.net
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After the heroic Chris Christie used heroic words to praise the heroic Obama for the latter's heroic efforts in "providing resources," I mean, after hearing such a heroic appraisal, I thought all the the Sandy rescue and recover efforts were officially done and closed. After all, one only appraises whether or not resources have been provided sufficiently after the matter is closed. I thought there were no need to pay further attention and to donate.
I would guess that sufficient resources have been provided to Christie, the last of the gung ho conservatives, to get him to praise Obama, the Marxist from hell puppet of TPTB. They buy or blackmail everyone who enters the game.
I don't know but I would think that there are plenty of places to fit 40,000. That is not that many people. The young women could stay at my place but I'm out here on the West Coast.
Time to activate the non-existant FEMA camps.
there are probably a bunch of vacant office buildings up near Goldman Sachs building - heck inside GS headquarters! - where the power's on, right? why not retrofit them as refugee camps til those peoples' situations are restored ... national emergency right? lol, can hear it now. Some fancy GS dude selling some billion dollar bond to his client on the phone, and some chick hollahing in the background "Where my free obama phone? you promised me my free obamaphone wit my EBT card you HO! Where my money mothafukah!" visualize...uh...world peace. yeah.
Nothing that hurts my soul more than rich white people complaining about their loses.
What about poor black people??
Bitches
Time to activate the FEMA camps.
Where are they when ya' needs 'em?
Precisely they will not spend *any* money to help these people but literally hundreds of millions for forced relocation camps. Isn't that a little odd? The only function that they will provide in the affected region is 'inventory control' aka - thousands of forms to fill out collecting massive amounts of data - to receive a little 'aid' which the government can statistically analyze..
only three more days and the oceans will recede for the second time in four years.
It's annoying that the Red Cross only wants money, not supplies (from other things I've read). Well, with all of that money, maybe they could rent a couple of [lower-end] cruise ships and dock them for housing until the cold passes.
use vacant office space - it's there and has running toilets right? so what if wall streeters have to deal with refugees running the halls--probably can't tell the difference 'tween them and traders anyhow. all for one and one for all 'cording to that Bloomie dude. Probably a bunch of 32-ounce cups sitting around could be donated - for the effort and such... put soup in 'em. toss in a 1/2 a loaf of bread and call it a happy meal.
May this soon be over New Jersey and Staten Island. I hope that new storm doesn't amount to much. Help each other, that's the only answer really in any given situation. Keeps you warm and helps the traumatized feeling. Love to all from New Zealand.
I have a 30KW Generator with Microcontrollers bitchezz. Start bidding
To those that have:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1JI7aMtazY&feature=related
It's the only human thing to do....
OK I want action here. I want 100 people to contact Scott Walker and explain your knowledge of spent fuel, in regards to our first victory, they ARE shutting down Kewaunee Nuke Plant in Wisconsin.
I WANT YOU to contact Walker, his email is here. And inform him that it is NOT a good idea to store the spent fuel on the shore of Lake Michigan for 120 years. Seriously, this is their plan at this time.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/11/kewaunee-partial-victory-co...
Time for a Prepper Party?
FEMA Trains bitchezzz. Start rolling that into NY and NJ.
Hitler would have solved this in no time unlike the clowns in the E Coast and DC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnwJ5KIcKX4
1) Sandy 2) FREEZE
weather forecast indicate low 20s (Farenheit)...= -4 Celclius...well its NOT -20C!!! i use SI system (metric...its smarter, I also love it since I have a science degree)
yes a Science degree...not wasteful degree like "financial bs" or political "science".....anyways
the freeze is = STALINGRAD for the blue states like NY !! LOL !!! i hope the power is out on those high rises were the 1%ers live...
Freezing weather in NYC is equivalent to the Battle of Stalingrad? At negative 4 Celsius? Wow that is quite the hyperbole or a really out-of-the-money bet. 2 million people died in the Battle of Stalingrad.
greetings from Sunny CA
local temp about 75F....
Sandy and the freeze are here..and its NOT EVEN 12-21-12 YET !!! as long as 12-21-12 hits the blue states and those 1%ers east coasters....WS "geniuses" rapists..."saved" by the stupid RAPIST QEorganizer. THE DEVIL TAKETH FROM THE 99% (PRINT INFLATION) AND GIVETH TO THE 1%.......AND MOTHER NATURE TAKES FROM THE 1%...ROFLMAO !!!
i have crocodile tears from watching your flooded tunnels, washed out front beach mansions, the tossed around boats....etc.
Careful, your words may burn you.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/elevated-fire-danger-for-sout...
i live in No. Cal...
20 minutes south from SF...still sunny today...and tomorrow too. living better than a freaking 1%er from the east coast!! LOL !!!
but that's ok...QEorganizer "saved" their freaking casino......(TEMPORARILY)
cheers!!
for some reason they don't have one of these for the east coast
http://eqbot.com/
I live waterfront, Chesapeake Bay. We were spared and i doubt these storms have or will affect the 1%er's. That is just wishful thinking. Enjoy the sunshine! I haven't seen the great ball of fire in a week!
cheers!!!
Staten Island is not the 1%.......it was a Hell hole before Sandy. None of the 1% was affected by this....just normal people. Only shitheads take pleasure from other's pain.
1% =
mansions on jersey shore, the flooded hamptons, soho, lower manhattan = flood those biatches !!
staten island = was flooded to show the 99% that QEorganizer doesn't give a rat's azz about them!!!! well it must have been "Bush's FAULT" LOL !!!!
You're right. Fuck people doing well. Let's take their money and give it to those needy Occupy folks cuz they will do so much more with it as they upgrade their hand drums to make a more kickass drum circle and buy some dope.