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After The Flood Comes The Freeze: "Tens Of Thousands Need Housing" Says Cuomo, As Nor'Easter Approaches
First the flood, now the freeze (and the lack of fuel and gas and heating just making it much worse). And for tens of thousands of residents of New York and New Jersey this means that as many as 40,000 will need to find alternative housing, especially ahead of Wednesday when a Nor'easter formation is expected to hit the Tristate area and bring even more freezing rain and cold to the region. From Reuters: "Tens of thousands of people affected by superstorm Sandy could soon need housing as cold weather descends on the state of New York, Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Sunday. Cuomo, in a televised press conference nearly a week after the storm hit the U.S. East Coast, said the fuel shortages are improving but problems will persist for "a number of days."" Elsewhere, and also from Reuters: "Victims of superstorm Sandy on the U.S. East Coast struggled against the cold early on Sunday amid fuel shortages and power outages even as officials fretted about getting voters displaced by the storm to polling stations for Tuesday's presidential election. Overnight, near-freezing temperatures gripped the U.S. northeast. At least two more victims were found in New Jersey, one dead of hypothermia, as the overall death toll from one of worst storms in U.S. history climbed to at least 112. Fuel supplies continued to rumble toward disaster zones and electricity was slowly returning to darkened neighborhoods after a storm that hit the coast last Monday. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it would be days before power is fully restored and fuel shortages end."
All of this will be exacerbated as a Nor'easter moves along the Eastern Seaboard and is expected to hit New Jersey and New York in several days:
A "significant" nor'easter is likely to hit Sandy-battered areas of the Northeast by Thursday, the National Weather Service said in an update Sunday.
FEMA and Red Cross officials have ordered more resources ahead of the storm, while New York City is dealing with a shortage of fuel oil and steam to heat buildings as temperatures began dipping into the 20s and power remained out for hundreds of thousands.
At the very least, the service's prediction center stated, there is "a very real possibility of heavy rain and strong winds along the coast from Virginia to Maine."
Snow is likely in the interior and some models "do bring some snow all the way to the coast as far south as Virginia," it warned.
That all of this is happening two days ahead of the presidential election is merely adding to the chaos:
President Barack Obama, neck-and-neck in opinion polls with Republican challenger Mitt Romney, ordered emergency response officials to cut through government "red tape" and work without delay to help affected areas return to normal.
Officials have expressed concern about getting voters displaced by Sandy to polling stations for Tuesday's election. Scores of voting centers were rendered useless by the record surge of seawater in New York and New Jersey.
New Jersey is allowing voters displaced by Sandy to vote by email. Some voters in New York could be casting their ballots in tents.
An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released on Sunday found that 68 percent of those surveyed approved of how Obama handled Sandy and just 15 percent disapproved.
"I'm not thinking about the election too much right now," said Frank Carrol, 59, a retired New York City transit worker who lives in Staten Island. He planned to vote, but did not know if his local polling station would even be open. "We'll stop by and see what happens," Carrol said.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie ordered county clerks to open on Saturday and Sunday to accommodate early voters and ensure a "full, fair and transparent open voting process."
And while most appear content with the crisis response to date, with the apex being Mayor Bloomberg's cancellation of the marathon due to massive popular outcry (we are confident all those who spoke up are now taking part in the recovery efforts), the DOE just announced that 25% of New Jersey is still without power. This led to Martial Law being declared in the town of Seaside Heights which has been totally destroyed, as we showed in the Hurricane Sandy before and after satellite pics.
We expect more regions of NJ to be declared uninhabitable in the coming days as the situation continues to deteriorate.
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A recent computer model suggesting a 969mb storm...that would be almost a cat 3...the same model shifted east a bit to se of Nantucket. Long ways to go yet but she's looking more and more like a real whopper of a nor'easter
Models predicting strength and movement of Nor'easter are not "real good", and it is four days out, 96 hour forecasts are big "ifs"..... which one are you looking at?
This is the 96 hour wind wave marine forecast for the northeast Atlantic... I would not want to be out there...
http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/fax/PJAM98.gif
Note the waves are in meters, so multi by 3..... Looks like 30 knot winds from the North in NYC and LI and 15 foot seas near shore. 50 knots at the center of the low (quite a ways offshore) and 24 foot seas. That is typical for this time of year.
But you can count on it, some moron captain in the NE, like the one of the Bounty, will want to get down to the Caribbean and be moving his boat in this crap..... looks like a nasty gulf stream crossing...
Likely closer to 980mb, should be off the Hamptons late Thurs, the thing is slowing.
This will not only slow the Sandy repairs but will set them back many days. And it is going to be damp and cold. The poor bastards (or rich as the case may be) on the NJ coast are going to see more water.
In other news a couple of billion other folks continue live in squalor and can only dream of indoor plumbing, electricity and a full pantry.
death panels Obama style...
Too worried about soda size and other such minutiae to have the forethought that November means winter!
having just gotten back power I can tell you those people need housing now. it's cold at night and it doesn't get warm in the day.
Are there shelters open?
did union workers restore your power or non-union visitors generous enough to take time out of their lives to come up to help? just curious...
"BOMBOGENESIS"
UPPER LEVEL SHORTWAVE ACROSS THE PLAINS WILL DIG INTO THE SOUTHEAST DEVELOPING A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. THIS SYSTEM IF FORECASTED TO MOVE UP THE EASTERN SEABOARD. MODELS HAVE SHOWN THAT THE SYSTEM WILL UNDER GO RAPID DEEPENING OR BOMBO GENESIS...FROM WED INTO THURSDAY ACROSS THE MID-ATLANTIC. THIS COMBINED WITH THE STRONG ANOMALOUS HIGH ACROSS THE MARITIMES WILL HELP INCREASE THE PRESSURE GRADIENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM. THIS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL EVENTUALLY OCCLUDED WHILE ITS OVER SNE ALLOWING FOR IT TO BE A SLOWER MOVER AND LINGERING UNTIL MID DAY FRIDAY.
this from NOAA forecast discussion New York
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=NY&prodtype=discussion
"BOTTOM LINE...HIGH CONFIDENCE IN DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE OCCURRING SOMEWHERE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC. HOWEVER...IT IS STILL HARD TO PINPOINT EXACT FORECAST DETAILS AT THIS TIME DUE TO TIMING/POSITIONAL DIFFERENCES...BUT CONFIDENCE IS GROWING FOR A POTENTIAL HEAVY RAIN/MIXED PRECIP AND HIGH/STRONG WIND EVENT. STRONG...GUSTY WINDS ARE BECOMING MORE LIKELY. SUSTAINED SPEEDS RANGING BETWEEN 20-35 MPH WITH GUSTS BETWEEN 45 TO 60 MPH IS A DEFINITE POSSIBILITY. HIGHEST WINDS WILL BE AT THE COAST AND IN HIGHER TERRAIN."
Obama and Ron Paul knew about Hurricane Sandy and did nothing.......
well Obama did play a few rounds of golf and went campaigning but nothing for the Sandy victims.
Hopefully (although it is too late to change a thing) this will silence the ignorant..http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-01/its-global-warming-stupi...
Nothing will silence the ignorant, with ignorance comes an amazing amount of self assurance as to their opinions. Most of which are provided by FOX and Limbaugh.
I agree with you and disagree at the same time. I may change my up vote to a down vote after more thought on your comment.
"Ignorance is bliss." I think we can all agree on that, no?
If it wasn't for global warming nyc would be sitting under a glacier.
Cute, factually correct, but designed to fool the idiots here into thinking that you said something different.....
Hopefully (although it is too late to change a thing) this will silence the ignorant..
I call BS, check the storms,severity and numbers in the 50's in that area.
The global temps have not changed 1* in ten years, and the Atlantic is now warmer, and the Pacific is colder.................it's all cyclical.Not both.
The Pacific/Atlantic patterns,will in it's time, revert, just as it has since the oceans appeared.
Go back in recorded history, and compare the data.
This has all happened before,and will continue to happen until time is no more.
It was the Ozone, now they know it's cyclical also, we changed from Freon 12, the R34, it/s worse than 12!!.
Always MAN thinks they have all the answers.....................BS.
I call BS. CO2 levels are now where they haven't been in millions of years. Last time they were this high earth's climate was very different, and very much warmer. If emissions continue to grow and an ever increased rate of growth, then the laws of physics will make their effects felt. And there is no doubt about the physics.
As to climate variablity, no one doubts that, it is a proven fact that many factors vary earths climate. We have been in a very stable period since the end of the last ice age. This is about to change. Well, no, it has changed. Stay tuned, this topic will be discussed as each new extreme weather event takes place. I bet next year at this time we will be talking about extreme weather events. And as each year goes by we will have more and more to talk about.
As to CO2, last spring for a brief period we passed 400PPM, that level is a game changer. Stay tuned, you WILL hear more about this as well.
Well said Mr Burton. Strange thing I find about most ZHers is how keen they are on just about any apocolyptic /doomsday scenario - all the way from imminent hyper-inflation to FEMA concentration camps - no matter how flimsy the evidence. But when confronted by a genuine existential crises like climate change - backed up by a growing mountain of scientific evidence, they cry hoax! Weird.
Nope.
It's highly cyclical wether we are here or not : http://youtu.be/8mxmo9DskYE
Icelandic Ice Cores show this.
But if you want to agree with Al Gore and UN Agenda 21, don't worry about calling Jenny Craig to go on a diet, their plan is to food ration whole nations in the name of 'reducing their carbon footprint'
Help with a proper decommission of Kewaunee nuke plant.
Make them pay the full price to clean up their mess.
email to Scott Walker
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/11/kewaunee-partial-victory-contact-gov.html
oops
Hmm its gonna be impossible to build houses that quickly? Off to a FEMA camp it is!
ITS OBAMAS FAULT
DAMM THAT FEELS GOOD
Nice of the MSM to pay attention in the same manner as Bush and Katrina...
no its still bushes fault just wait and see
This is bad. Rates/premiums will cause this too be unbearable for the east coast. Print? Will lead to hyperinflation on energy costs/food = Lose/lose.
Whitney's muni bond defaults ala NY will start to look attractive.
Sandy is the game changer, just took out Obama's "nat gas offset" game changer. In a FUBAR way.
FOOD INSURANCE
I dont know how Id react if some pollster called me to ask if I approved of how Obama handled this crisis when I have no power, water has ruined my home, and temperatures ready to drop.
back to the article, are there plans to open up the stadiums and get those Katrina cots and stuff up there? or bus people out to the next available stadium in other states like they did during katrina -- I remember they bussed tons of people from new orleans to houston, dallas, etc. Anyone?
It scares me to no end to look at the people standing in line with gas cans for fuel. What has our nation come to? Are we so dependent on fossil fuels that we CANNOT live day to day without them?
With all the people in NYC and NJ, it's probably safe to assume a good portion of them are on the gubmint dole. It's no wonder none of them have any food stores, warm clothing, emergency supplies, etc. From the pictures, it looks like most live hand-to-mouth.
It won't be long now before people start coming down with colds, the flu, and most likely pneumonia. The misery is slated to continue. Throw in a black swan: dead rats / live rats rummaging through garbage release plague, a snow storm, riots when 'the one' fails to be re-elected, who knows?
Just like New Orleans, I don't see these cities EVER really fully recovering from this. There's no money. Where is the help from Japan, the EU, or any other nation? Much of the damage will never be repaired. I DO believe MOST americans would work to at least 'clean up' the area, unlike places like Haiti, where the people just lie around playing dominoes and waiting for Godot to come along and help them.
Have you seen the pictures? Everyone is named Mohammed, or some other middle-eastern name. The US has gained 28 million people since 2000. Where in the hell did these people come from? It looks like they all live in NYC. We just CANNOT keep bringing all these people into the country, there are only so many taxi-driver jobs available. (Most aren't interested in work, anyway.)
The pace of deterioration is increasing, and something needs to be done. If you'll pull up pictures of Myanmar, or New Delhi, or Nigeria, you see people living in tents, barefoot, staring at the camera, waiting again for Godot.....and the children! My god! These people are spitting out kids like pumpkin seeds. All those illiterate, hopeless, filthy mouths to feed. In about 20 years, THAT generation will be grown (dog help us) and they, TOO, will be reproducing.
The poor earth cannot sustain the onslaught. Look at the filth everywhere (even in NYC...trash everywhere, it's here: 3rd world country.)
There are 'people' who recognize the need to reduce populations, and there's no easy answer....but war is ONE answer. Although it's only a short-term solution, even WAR is going to be preferable to the alternative living conditions on this planet we ALL are about to experience!
"We just CANNOT keep bringing all these people into the country" ... are you kidding, where else would a government be so STUPID as to allow millions of people to wander into the country for free food, free health care, free education, and mucho other sundries or declare people from other continents as refuges and welcome them with open pocketbooks (oh, I guess busloads of Sudanese are taken to polling places in MN)... and then force the smart, talented, and degreed students to return to their homeland.
To emigrate to Mexico (my brother lives there), you have to have money, provide your own healthcare, can't buy property, pay fees (bribes), report to gov every year, record comings and goings, and become responsible for all retirement benefits should you hire someone.
Zero Avatar, If the U.S gained 28 million new immigrants in the last 12 years that would be (off the top of my head) about 2.3 million a year? or 204,000 a month, if they all arrived by jet that would require how many jet loads a day , at say 240 passengers per aircraft. You will notice that most of the "new Americans" anything but Caucusoid. The same story is playing out in U.K. Denmark,Norway,Sweden,France,GermanyAustralia,New Zealand,Canada and any other place with a European heritatige or colonisation past. The objective is to Dilute certain cultures over a few generations until they are no longer a threat to "the Perps". Who do you think is financing all these people? not themselves in most cases, the horrible Euro colonists dragged vast swaths of bearly used real estate into a productive universe at the cost to a few aboriginal peoples but for the greater good in the end i think. The new "immigrants" are Brought here! It is an invasion not Immigration.
Totally agree. The objective being to break down all national identity in favour of accepting your loving controlling UN masters who will make sure that 40% of your taxes goes directly to them - in exchange for Greece style haircuts which will come when the fiscal crisis hits the US. Thus we will have zero services, and a crippling income tax rate. The only option is revolt! The Secret Freedom Fighter is the only book I qualify worth reading. Make the state collapse under the weight of it's own enforcement.
Roman Empire, Charles of Habsburg Empire, Soleiman's Ottoman empire; all bowed to same chimes : Not race but "deified" Caesarian/one god religion and centralized government, aka market economy today (new religion) and global Oligarchy control of sheeple. Hitler and Stalin were on that same page.
What's new under the sun? A slave is a slave and a slave woman is a f***able rose, whose smell and feel is just as beautiful whatever her origin. So what does it matter what you name that rose? Peggy Sue or Leila or Hang on to my billiard cue...
That is how the Oligarchy construct works, then as now.
winning by one new democrat at a time maybe we should put all th illegals to work fighting wars and cleaning up our blighted areas for 3 hots and a cot
War is so messy.. Let the populations stabilize themselves and they naturally will. Governments do not have to manage anything the populations will naturally. Taking it upon ourselves to reduce and control the populations elsewhere doesn't work, and who decides anyways? You speak of all these excess people all breeding like rats yet some elitist is looking at you thinking the same thing. If people *really* believe there are too many of us feel free to take yourself out of the equation. I will stay and I will occupy the land. The first thing they have to get rid of is the welfare state. Stop issuing money to pay people not to do anything. Let free market dictate and it will immediately self stabalize. Limit credit by law to no more than 2x someones yearly salary it would stop the life long indebtiness to a mortgage bank, and empower the people again. Also make the taxation rate of limited companies = to their market share. Thus Walmart which stomps out mom and pop with their chain of stores would have a tax rate equal to their market share = 60%. It would end the vaccumish sucking companies overnight in favor of the small mom and pops who would not pay any income tax.
In regards to population density and the collapse of civilization:
http://www.2045.com/expert/123.html
Just another viewpoint, not the final answer.
Religion promotes procreation. Poverity does as well - your children will take care of you when you are old being the theory, the more people in the family who are able to work, the better. The state we are in is the result of poor planning by govt - the govt is in place to maintain the infrastructure and "lead" their citizens. Compelling leadership should induce individuals to seek the high road, live an honest life and produce future citizens who are sound and responsible.
But when you allow citizens to grow up in slums, without birth control, an education, safety from the surrounding violence and decadence (source of their income, i.e., drugs, prostitution and larceny), and to expect anything but drug addicts, prostitutes and illiterates who are unable to develop a skill which is marketable, being shocked their offspring are just like them is naive.
What good are these useless eaters who have no source of self-generated income? Why would a govt allow this situation to unfold? To silence their vote. Rather than stepping over dead bodies on the way to the office, civilized society pays taxes to ensure they have a roof and food - so far.
People in a nation are a mirror of their government's policies. Govt in place in today's world are clearly focused on anything but inspiring their citizens to reach for higher ground. Poverty is a weapon.
Wall Street offices would make EXCELLENT shelters. I am sure Lord Blankfein would agree.
Only problem is when the help gets confused and 'services' the wrong bloke. But you know what they say about omelettes....
Who opened that can of whoop ass?
Latest model runs have the storm stalling out and retrograding to landfall in S NJ....jesus christ! Predicting a 4 foot storm surge over multiple tide cycles as it bombs out into a 980 mb low. "long duration" event right over the exact same spot Sandy hit.
3 shark attacks in a 7 day period
Kind of glad I don't have time for diving right now.....
and dont be afraid of a klik, it is nothing like a shark bite, LOL
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/2012/11/2-shark-attacks-in-one-day.html
There were fewer shark attacks when people thought they would fall off the edge of the earth .... there weren't fewer sharks .... just fewer body surfers !
climate change is a bitch that is never happy first its too hot and now its too cold.
define climate.
5am outlook calling for wind gusts up to 80mph over my neck of the woods...Cape Cod
Guess I'll be joining the ranks of the powerless in a couple of days
One hot, dry popcorn fart doesn't keep my bath water from getting cold .... from this model I conclude global warming is impossible .... think next ice age .... body fat is gold ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Even Pissing In The Bath Tub Doesn't Help The Inevitable Cooling World World Tour
The one thing that I did do is go long on coffee, simply because I expect consumption patterns to shift in the US east, to making coffee at home (saving money) in the wake of this hurricane, and since it is at year low prices the demand and price for it will soon rise.
There's no electricity for your solar coffee pot ! I used to make sun tea .... then I discovered I could make tea in the ice box, with no light bulb, and quicker because I was cooling it as I brewed it ! Solar radiation was too harsh and caused undesireable flavoroid proteins to leach out .... then I had to refrigerate the puke warm stuff ! Ice box ice tea for me ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad I Pee In Your Tea World Tour
I'm goin long coffee too. Long food in general with this FED megaprint in progress its the only thing that's a sure bet IMO. But don't forget, its only transitory!
I didn't burn the coffee .... I just French roasted it !
New York City Help Wanted Ad (11/16/2012):
Corpsicle Collector, must have strong back, weak mind, limited olfactory sense and desperate need of income. Must have own cart. Apply at City Hall.
Cape Cod .... named by the Pilgrims with their death the ripper sense of humour .... you couldn't take a step without tripping over a dead cod fish ! Only a Socialist plan could bring the Pilgrims to starvation's shore .... when lobster, clams and fish were jumping into your wicker gathering baskets ? The first clambake happened when they were trying to clean up the beach and the sea weed wouldn't burn ! The first Thanksgiving was because Socialism failed .... again ! BTFW: The Celts should called the Pilgrims .... fucking Irish flotsam and jetsam !