Guest Post: 'I' For Inevitable

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

Just over 400-years ago today, a group of 13 conspirators was caught trying to assassinate King James I of England and blow up the House of Lords in what became known as the Gunpowder Treason.

If you’ve ever seen the movie V for Vendetta, you know the story. Guy Fawkes was found underneath the House of Lords with three dozen barrels of gunpowder… and to this day, his effigy is still burned annually in commemoration of the event.

Fundamentally, the Gunpowder Treason was about freedom. The English monarchy at the time was controlling nearly every aspect of the economy and their subjects’ lives– from what they could wear to how they could worship.

“Sumptuary laws” which regulated private behavior were commonplace. Elizabeth I, for example, re-introduced a beard tax on all facial hair grown in excess of two weeks. She also published long lists, categorized by social class, dictating precisely what color and type of garment her subjects were required to wear.

It turns out these sumptuary laws were just an early form of state-sponsored corporate welfare; the English textile industry had paid Elizabeth huge sums of money in exchange for royal decrees about knitted caps and woollen socks.

As a consequence, a great deal of English labor and disposable income was mis-allocated towards silly garments instead of being put to more productive uses… and the country was in an almost perpetual state of stagnation.

Not to mention, English finances deteriorated under Elizabeth. By 1600, state expenditures were 23% greater than tax revenue, which would be the equivalent of a $550 billion budget deficit in the US today. Not exactly a trivial figure.

James I, Elizabeth’s successor, continued to spend extravagantly and in-debt the English economy, often showering taxpayer funds on a handful of favored nobles.

By the time James’s successor Charles I came to power, the monarchy’s credit was running so thin that Charles had to force people to loan him money; those who refused were imprisoned and had their property confiscated.

Unsurprisingly, civil war broke out in 1642. Charles I was executed in 1649, and the genocidal dictatorship of Oliver Cromwell dominated England for the next decade.

When you think about it, this collapse was inevitable. For decades prior, the entire English economy was under the control of a single individual who massively indebted the state, impeded growth, and reduced people’s individual freedoms. Not exactly a recipe for long-term success.

The Gunpowder Treason of November 5, 1605 may have been a failure for the conspirators, but given enough time, a system so screwed up, so unsustainable, was destined to collapse on itself.

Curiously, we’re not so different in the west today. We have our own sumptuary laws, regulating everything from tobacco consumption to what foods we can/cannot eat. We have our own state-sponsored corporate welfare. We’re comically indebted.

And just like the English monarchs, we have a tiny elite that controls absolutely everything about our economy– taxation, regulation, and the supply of money.

Needless to say, this is also unsustainable. And history shows that these types of unsustainable systems will always collapse under their own weight. We’re not so different...

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lolmao500's picture

If the military would do it's damn job and arrest the traitors in Washington DC, Wall Street and on TV, things could go in the right direction...

Zer0head's picture

(just in case gathering behind our leader during the hurricane wasn't enough)

Russian nuclear attack sub detected in Atlantic; Near East Coast...

Tegrat's picture

Election help from the commies to the commie. Not going to stop anyone from voting...


Zer0head's picture

the link is now broken here is some of the text and I agree it actually might be the opposite of the hurricane


A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of the East Coast recently in the latest sign Russia is continuing to flex its naval and aerial power against the United States, defense officials said.

The submarine was identified by its NATO designation as a Russian Seirra-2 class submarine believed to be based with Russia’s Northern Fleet. It was the first time that class of Russian submarine had been detected near a U.S. coast, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of anti-submarine warfare efforts.

Muppet of the Universe's picture

& here's the resistance! A quality force of intelligent strategists...

In a sense, this is life, exemplified. In fact, when I watch people lose money trading... its exactly like this.


-I peed myself laughing.

Deo vindice's picture

Unbelievable. The one place I never expected to see a piece of historical revisionism was on ZH.

You need to read your history. The gunpowder plot was an effort by the agents of Rome trying to bring England back under papal rule.

They got caught. And executed for treason.

Exactly what should happen to treasonable acts committed against a nation's constitution. (Even when - or especially when - those acts are committed by those in authority in the country)

Wraithlord's picture

Right you are. People shouldn't apply the freedom spin to just about everything. That's an abuse of the popularity of the notion of freedom.

BigJim's picture

James the first was a tyrant. His government had no kind of moral legitimacy whatsoever (unless you're a believer in Hobbesian rhetoric) and neither did his parliament.

Of course... if Catesby and crew had succeeded, their new government might have been no better.

To descibe what they tried to do as 'treason', though, is laughable. No one owes loyalty to evil, and the English monarchy (along with every other autocratic tyranny) was almost always exactly that - a bunch of 'big-picture' mafiosi, always ready to sacrifice the lives of 'their' citizens in some foreign landgrab, spending vast amounts of wealth on finery while their people starved.

When I think of these assholes it almost makes me want to believe in God... that the wicked really are punished in the afterlife for their crimes here on Earth.

Oh-Globits's picture

I wouldn't worry...they're only here to monitor the elections

aerojet's picture

Such a non-story. What was it even mentioned for? The Russians have exactly one working attack sub. An attack submarine is not the same thing as a ballistic missile boat aka "Boomer" which has a first-strike capability.  Why would the Russians want to start something with the US right now, anyways?  It's all bs.

ebworthen's picture


The Supine Court and the Justice Department and all other "law enforcement" have so far allowed the rape of the Constitution and the death of the rule of law for the common citizen. 

If the military falls in line rather than restoring the Constitution we may as well start flying the red/white/blue swastika.

john39's picture

The military has served as the corporations' enforcers for a long time. Smeldly Butler laid it all out in 'War is a Racket'.

sunaJ's picture

Yes, that is obvious to me now.  That grim and accurate opinion is being shared more and more by members of our military as they are called upon indefinitely - in war and regions of peace - to fight battles - mostly covert - around the world.  Call it Post-traumatic Stress if you like, but when these soldiers are exposed to horrible things in the battlefield and then return here to "what they were fighting for," and finding themselves disappointed, it makes those horrors that much worse.  Our suicidal vets are the canary-in-the-coalmine commentary on American culture.  They are a reflection of the dying paradigm we are living in, promulgated by those that benefit most by it. Anti-terrorism has become a hysterical cult because the old system must now defend itself rigorously and continually just to survive.  The "key" to their club is the Top Secret security clearance and their newest temple is near completion in Bluffdale, Utah.  They are not above the constitution but they believe they are doing God's work and anything is fair game.  The bipartisan political farce has run its course and passed on to full cliche.  I know of no better sign of publicly-unrecognized totalitarianism.  If you can make people believe they are choosing, they can forever be controlled.

CH1's picture

If... things could go in the right direction.

All we have to do is stop obeying them. If we did, they would crumble in short order.

lolmao500's picture

The sheeple will never disobey them. The troops on the other hand will be fired and they'll hire illegal aliens and private contractors to do their bidding... or they'll stage a false-flag and the sheeple will line up to die for their corporate masters.

The only way America goes on the right path without a decade + of collapse then civil war... is the military to go Ataturk on the US government's ass.

BigJim's picture

There's a reason they want to enlist people who are essentially children, and not just because they're physically fit; it's because they have not yet developed the capacity (or habit) of critical thought and are thus easily led to commit atrocities in the name of absurdities, to paraphrase Voltaire.

So I can't see the military going 'Ataturk' (a dreadful man himself, though I've yet to meet a Turk who doesn't practically wet themselves with reverence whenever his name is mentioned).

As Smedley Butler admitted, he'd never had an original thought of his own until he left the 'services' - and he retired relatively late in life as a general. So expecting the twenties-something grunt to suddenly discover true patriotism is asking a bit much.

Tortfeasor's picture

It's not the military's job to arrest people. That's called a coup. Get off your fat ass and make change happen yourself.

lolmao500's picture

A coup is the only way America avoids collapse. Make change happen yourself. Get real, the real awaken is a tiny minority.

Dr. Richard Head's picture

The collapse is not the problem and is manifesting its reality. The concern is whether or not outright dictatorship births in its wake or if true free market ideals have the proverbial seat at the table.

In llight of hurricane Sandy and the response of the populous graveling for assistance I believe the former will be begged for by the masses. The millions of us that can pinpoint failure on the current ten planks of the communist manifesto might be enough to overcome.

Either that or there is another solid ten years of papered over promises and inflated away guarantees of government largese. I am completely confused as to the ability to keepthe glue and duct tape from coming apart at the scenes with all of these paper machinations.

I am also drunk, so at least I've got that going for me. Black and Tans on an election eve. I'll vote with my chemistry abilities of turning beer to urine. Not that far off from the poll votes turning to tax payer piggy trough feeding.

Dr. Engali's picture

Black and Tans ... I'll drink to that. Guinness and Harp or some other tan ?

CH1's picture

A coup is the only way America avoids collapse

A coup? Seriously??

Oh yeah, that'll be just swell. Shoot people and take over the evil machine?

And then what? "Run it the right way this time."?


(You're working for the FBI, right? Looking for the damaged and gullible?)

RiotActing's picture

A coup sounds crazy but do you see anything REALLY changing until people start dieing?


CH1's picture

A coup sounds crazy but do you see anything REALLY changing until people start dieing?

I really do see some people changing. The number of cryto-anarchists and agorists has grown dramatically. Granted, these people are still a tiny fraction of the whole, but at least it is some.

I expect most people to avoid reality until the last possible moment. When they're hungry, they will either turn into monsters or return to sanity.

My guess is that there is a lot of pain coming down the raod... and at this point, I think we should just let it come.

Protecting willingly blind people keeps them blind.

aerojet's picture

You'll know the movement away from the state is taking off when all the hot chicks are part of it.

_underscore's picture

I thought the coup happened in 1971.

Jumbotron's picture

I thought the coup happened in 1971.

No that was 1913.


Both correct ....and wrong.  The coup began in 1789 here........


And here is the coup master......


Who then went on to exploit westerners through currency manipulation and real estate scams which brought on this event  2 years after the establishment of our National Bank......


.....And who also then crushed the rebellion with a larger force than any mustered against the British during the Revolution.  


Bankers and their elite lapdogs in Congress will alway crush the commoner and then use the military to crush the commoner when they revolt against their tyrannies.

Pegasus Muse's picture

If the military would do it's damn job and arrest the traitors in Washington DC, Wall Street and on TV, things could go in the right direction...


I, _____, having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

Freewheelin Franklin's picture

If the military would do it's damn job and arrest the traitors....

Why would the military arrest the people that sign their paychecks?

beaglebog's picture

Good point, Franklin.


All of their status and privilege is derived from the "system" ... from the looting of the taxpayer. 


There is no way on this God's Earth that they will act to disrupt that system. The evidence is all around; look at the military/police of any embattled country and tell me how many fight for Liberty. No, they fight for more control of the "system" ... a hand on the levers.


American military and police will prove to be no different. Don't waste your time hoping.

howenlink's picture

Enough with the banner ads taking over my phone and notebook.  I am ready to pay.

au_bayitch's picture

Cut it down a bit.

Winston Churchill's picture

Simon. Stick to selling real estae in Chile or wherever.

The gunpoeder plot was about religious freedom.

They were all Roman Catholics, and were trying to kill the head of the

Church of England.Who also happened to be the King.

Thats why they were burned at the stake.The Roman Catholic style of execution

for heretical behavior, at that time.Quid pro quo.

Jack Burton's picture

Thanks Winston, you beat me to the punch, I posted much the same below!

prains's picture


Simon has since moved to Cheapenzuela where the alpaca's roam free

beaglebog's picture

I think that Fawkes was hanged, drawn and quartered.


Anyway, it is said that he was the last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions.

Ineverslice's picture


Release the Drones!

Jack Burton's picture

The English don't necessarily see the Gun Powder Plot about economic freedom. They do see it is as part of a Catholic Plot to defeat the reformation and impose the Catholic faith back on England. That is why even today banners carried in the torch parades often say "No Popery".

As for the state of the English economy due to the greed and corruption of the monarcy, yes, that is all true. Just do not look at the gunpowder plot as a tea party act for freedom, it was part of a deep religious plot to restore the Catholic faith as the offical church in England. This religious battle would soon extend to Church of England versus non conformists who were quickly gaining strength in the House of Commons. THESE were the real capitalists and members of the growing middle class of businessmen. So there was a three way religious battle. The Gunpowder Plot was not a free market capitalist movement, it was basically aristocratic Catholics seeking restoration of their former religious power in England.

"Penny for the Guy?"

newengland's picture

But the potent hope of blowing up the monied few who enslave the many - that is the power of the phrase: remember, remember the 5th of November, and the joke that Guy Fawkes was the last honest man to enter Parliament.

Symbolism and honest values: a powerful keg, needed now more than ever.


orangegeek's picture

Collapsing is a process, not an event.  Too much emphasis on instant collapse or so this article implies.


Markets have turned over everywhere in the world except the USA.  The US has now followed - top was in October.


And it will take time for markets to fall and the pending misery to follow - economy lags markets typically by 3 to 6 months.


We have years of utter hell ahead of us.  We can't fix this global mess in a few months.

Jack Burton's picture

Europe is looking grimmer everyday. None of this bailout bullshit is going to help the insolvent banking systems and their massive holdings of sovereign debt of inslovent governments of Europe. Canada and Australia are showing bad signs as well.

We are headed for a crisis to make 2008 look like a picnic. But the power of the central bank money printers is making this a very slow motion collaspe. Still, the collapse is on.

Do not underestimate the threat of war either. IN Syria, Israel is threatening Syria over gunfire on teh Golan heights. And Hezbolla has moved 5,000 front line fighters into Syria to fight for the Assad government. They have heavy missile batteries with them and have already driven rebels out of some towns and have moved to secure and protect friendly towns and villages. This is now a full blown Sunni SHia war. USA and NATO back their allies the Sunni, Iran and Hezbolla are now fighting in Syria for the Assad government.


vix is for kids's picture

The equity markets may have topped, but most of the European markets (FTSE, DAX, and CAC) and a few Asian ones are still above their (rising) 50 day moving averages.  In that regard, the US would be the leader, to the downside, as our major averages are now below their 50 dma.

Dr. Engali's picture

I do agree the market has seen it's top and we will never reach those levels again, however I think we are going to see this market accelerate to the downside. I believe when the great liquidity rush happens the market collapse will be epic. Time will tell, but it's coming.