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Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America
Authored by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market.com,
Of all the hollow and uninspired elections that this country has suffered through over the past several decades, one might think that at some point long ago the American public would have finally struck a plateau of disenfranchisement; that we could sink no further into despondency, that there is a saturation limit to the corruption of our voting process. Unfortunately, there has been no such luck. I have to say that in all honesty I have never seen more people gut jumbled and disgusted with our electoral system than I have in 2012. Sure, there is still a hyper-gullible segment of the populous that continues to play the game, but even those idiots are beginning to admit that the choices offered are dismal at best, catastrophic at worst. The fog of the false Left/Right paradigm is starting to lift, and all that lay in its wake is a hoard of lost wide-eyed flabbergasted followers without a coattail or a talking point to cling to. Sudanese refugees have a better chance of survival than these people do…
Even in the more obvious of fraudulent past elections there was at least an attempt by the establishment to present a pageant of conflicting ideologies (George W. Bush vs. John Kerry comes to mind). There has always been the Democrat who pretends to be anti-war, or the Republican who pretends to be small government, or the Democrat who pretends to defend our right to privacy, and the Republican who pretends to be pro-2nd Amendment. But in 2012, even the theater of rhetoric has disappeared. Both primary party candidates seem to be sharing the same intestinal tract and the same teleprompter, and now, the average American is asking a new set of questions. They do not wonder how these men will change things for the better. Not at all. Instead, they wonder which one will do LESS DAMAGE while in office. This is the terrible reality we have come to understand in our society today. It is a sad awakening, but a necessary one.
As you read this now, the new President of the United States is being “chosen” or has been chosen. Whoever the “winner” happens to be is ultimately irrelevant. They do not count. They are mascots. Middle management cronies running through the motions to distract the masses while enacting the policies of their superiors. They are fry cooks serving greasy overpriced democracy with no real sustenance. What does matter, though, is what comes next. I’m sorry to say that the idea that one man will do less damage than the other is a naïve sentiment. Democrat? Republican? Obama? Romney? The crimes and calamities wrought will be exactly the same. Take a look into my crystal ball and see the future. Here is how the winner will destroy America…
1) He Will Continue The Policy Of Dollar Devaluation
Neither candidate has expressed any interest through the election or even before it to protect the value of our currency, and both candidates have supported steps towards quantitative easing and fiat printing in order to delay an inevitable national debt crisis. Both Romney and Obama have sung the praises of Ben Bernanke (Romney changed his tune just in time for his campaign, but who's buying that?) and the private Federal Reserve despite the consistent failures of that despotic institution to produce any tangible economic results with their Keynesian methods.
The dollar will see a vast devaluation during the term of this candidate and a loss of world reserve status, leading to stagflation (a combination of the worst elements of deflationary and inflationary crises in the same event). Skyrocketing prices and crumbling unemployment will be the highlights of his presidency, because he will never take measures to reign in or dismantle the primary root cause of the problem; the Federal Reserve itself.
2) He Will Continue Extreme Government Debt Spending
Neither candidate has offered a practical or operable solution to the $16 trillion official national debt problem we now face, let alone the tens of trillions of dollars in entitlement obligations that the Treasury Department never talks about. A nation can only live off food stamps and credit for so long before it implodes like a wet paper sack. And this is exactly what we have become; an entire culture of debt addicts and money hounds searching for our next fix of foreign or central bank cash. The fact is, both Obama and Romney would INCREASE spending while using fiat injections to buttress an ever weakening economy in the name of “stability”. The new president will claim that if spending cuts are initiated, it will send the U.S. financial system into a tailspin and a “return” to recession conditions. This will of course be a lie. We have not left recession/depression conditions since 2008.
3) He Will Support And Expand On Wars In The Middle East
There is no such thing as a mainstream “anti-war candidate” in 2012. Not even a fake one. Obama’s measures of state violence and complete lack of respect for the sovereign internal matters of foreign nations surpass the madness of George Bush Jr. He has even gone so far as to assert that his office has the right to assassinate American citizens without trial, evidence, or due process of the law. Not only has he asserted the right to this power, he has used it! Romney’s position, hilariously, is that Obama has not gone far enough! Either way, the winner in 2012 is going to leap like a vile locust into new countries and unleash a plague of laser guided death. The next president WILL be a war hungry president.
4) He Will Lock Down The Web And Limit Internet Speech
Both Romney and Obama have expressed a desire to establish cybersecurity measures which include vast new governmental authority over the functions and operations of the internet. The ultimate goal? To gain legal precedence for the right to dictate web content, up to and including the ability to label any website a subversive threat to national security or a recruitment tool for “extremists”.
With the establishment spreading completely baseless accusation of cyberthreats coming from every corner of the globe (but mostly from Iran) it would seem that they are conditioning the public for a future encounter with a cyber event, and telling them who to blame when it occurs. The problem is, the most prominent cyber security threats to the internet in the past few years have come not from the Middle East, or Russia, or China, but the U.S. and Israel (Stuxnet anyone?). Keep this in mind when our new president blames the next cyber attack on a convenient political target and then uses the event as an excuse to regulate the web.
5) He Will Erase American Civil Liberties
This president will find a reason, or he will create a reason to diminish Constitutional protections including our right to trial and due process. Both candidates have offered unflinching support for the National Defense Authorization Act and its provisions for indefinite detainment. Neither man has ventured any sincere concerns over the broad nature of the language involved in the labeling of “terrorists” and “extremists”. Literally anyone can now be categorized as an enemy combatant and a threat to national security for almost any reason, and this appears to be the way Obama and Romney like it. That is to say, they both want totalitarian powers, or at the very least, they have made no effort to turn them down.
It is important to note that there has never been a government in history that sought out such powers and did not actually use them. Only a fool would assume his favorite elitist candidate in 2012 will not utilize the extreme authorities now amassed for the executive branch over the past decade.
6) He Will Embrace A Globalist Dynamic And Abandon American Sovereignty
Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are surrounded by “advisers” who are also members of the Council On Foreign Relations, an institution which openly calls for the dissolution of American sovereignty on a regular basis and the creation of a centralized global system dominating the financial, social, and political life of every nation in the world. With the economic stability of the U.S. on the verge of oblivion, it is very likely that a historic crisis will ensue during the first term of the next president, and that he will in response suggest a new global system as the solution.
This system has already been created, in part, by the IMF and World Bank in concert with member governments and revolves around the issuance of a new world reserve currency (Special Drawing Rights) as the centerpiece. I can guarantee with absolute certainty that the next president, regardless of who he happens to be, will promote an IMF rescue package coupling the dollar to the SDR and turning over full economic control of America to an international body. He will make it sound rational, reasonable, and even advantageous, but in the end, he will be selling the globalist snakeoil he was conscripted to sell before his election campaign ever started.
In 2012, it will not be about voting. It will not be about “winning”. It will not even be about getting to the next election. It will be about survival. As big a joke as the 2012 elections have become even to the generally unaware, I am not laughing. I do not need to look at the promises of either candidate. I do not need to weigh their half-assed quick fix policies. All I have to do is look at the current downward trend and understand that the president, whoever he may be, will continue it. If anything is to truly change, it will be because we as Americans finally walk away from the game, enacting our own solutions and our own opposition instead of handing over our power to sniveling errand boys wrapped in flags and expensive suits and self-rightousness every four years. 2012 is going to be the beginning of upheaval and renewal, for better or for worse, and it is certain that the guy in the White House into 2013, Republican or Democrat, is going to be a part of the problem, nothing more…
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Your girlfriend's name is "Brad"?
So where is the news on the Greek Strike? Don't let me down zero hedge.
Wouldn't it be "news" if the Greeks weren't striking?
This time - I think - its different.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1106/Greeks-strike...
Yeah, the election is over. Unleash chaos. Still, it seems there is a strike every week.
You know, if JFK hadn't been assassinated, if RFK hadn't been assassinated & if the Supreme Court hadn't awarded a certain election to Bush - we could be living in a far different world today.
Certainly couldn't be any worse.
If JFK and RFK hadn't been assassinated, it would mean that the guys who are still fucking up the world today weren't already in power back in the 60s.
Election 2012: Choose the form of the destructor!
I already wrote in my vote for the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.
Marshmallow/Michelin ticket.
On a long enough time line ... the zionistas will run the 4th reich.
DONE!
Heeyyyyyyy, is that an ancient Buddhist symbol on that menorah?
If SDR's are the next global reserve currency then why isn't DSK, a big proponent of SDR's, still head the IMF? Surely the answer doesn't lie on the bogus rape charge several years ago.
If SDR's are the next global reserve currency then why isn't DSK, a big proponent of SDR's, still head the IMF? Surely the answer doesn't lie on the bogus rape charge several years ago.
If SDR's are the next global reserve currency then why isn't DSK, a big proponent of SDR's, still head the IMF? Surely the answer doesn't lie on the bogus rape charge several years ago.
Some nice quotes for you all on Erection Day (thanks, George Carlin):
"They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.
However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty."
- President George Washinton, farewell speech, warning about political parties
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"If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power."
- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, Mar. 6, 1956
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"As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war."
- President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864, in letter to Col. William F. Elkins
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"Corporations... hijacked the Fourteenth Amendment and have used it to consolidate their power in the U.S. and the world. Corporations have gained many of the inalienable rights of humans guaranteed by the Bill of Rights with their status as 'persons' under the Fourteenth Amendment. Through their right of free speech they have captured our legislatures and regulatory agencies. They have used the key to the courts that the Fourteenth Amendment provides them to invalidate legislation that might have slipped through their control of the legislative process.
One hundred and fifty years of investing wealth in lawyers and using those lawyers to flood the courts with the corporate perspective on the law has led to corporate culture defining the world through law. The provisions of law corporate lawyers argued for in U.S. courts in the 19th century they now write into international trade agreements. The U.S. economy’s colonization by corporations serves as the model for the colonization of the world by multinational corporations."
- Doug Hammerstrom, attorney at law, 2002
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"The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naive and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who loves his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair." (or to not giving a shit... WS09)
- H.L. Mencken
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“Very many questions can be answered ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ only by a moron or a slave.” - Dalton Trumbo, author of "Johnny Got His Gun," testifying before the House Un-American Activities Committee
"Those who do not move, do not notice their chains." - Rosa Luxemburg
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"Stoop and you'll be stepped on; stand tall and you'll be shot at." - Carlos A. Urbizo
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.
"In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it." - Daniel Waters
"He was being groomed for a top spot in the corporation. General... Chief of Staff." - Cpt Willard
My girlfriend and two close friends already early-voted for Gary Johnson. My younger son and I both voted for Gary Johnson today. My all-knowing tax partner voted for Gary Johnson today, then an "undecided voter" (his daughter) called him for advice and voted for Gary Johnson too.
Last night, we watched the third party runoff debate, but since CSPAN blacked out OBAMNEY's challengers, we had to hook up the laptop to the big screen and watch the live feed from RT. This web site and all the others broadcasting the debate kept experiencing delays, apparently overwhelmed by the volume of traffic.
My girlfriend told me this morning that Gary Johnson was No. 2 in Facebook visits, second only to the Kenyan Usurper. She reasoned that lots of undecided youngsters were scrambling last night to figger out how to vote.
Good thing OBAMNEY has an insurance policy/ace up their puppet-sleeves, knowing their cronies like Diebold are "counting" the votes in secret by computer! While waiting in line, I discussed with several poll workers, their bosslady and fellow voters that computerized vote "counting" in secret is a recipe for FRAUD, and that I would rather trust YOU (pointing to their colleagues) to physically count our votes and submit totals in public view. Instead of escorting me out the door, everyone enthusiastically agreed, without exception!
However, my anarchist pal says he is voting for the Kenyan Usurper, figuring he's the sock puppet who will collapse the gubmint Ponzi faster...and on the Jackass Party's watch.
Add 3 more that I know went the Libertian way.
I voted Gary Johnson for prez, bosshog for sheriff, and wrote in Ron Paul for Tax Collector then stuck it in a fuckin diebold machine. What a farce.
One more here.
One more here.
Must be from Chicago?
Yes, he is also dead.
They must be made entirely out of pure Democracy then. Or something. Such dead-ication
Dead on. The closest thing to eternal life in this world is getting on the voter rolls in Chicago.
Gary is no Ron Paul
He's no Obama or Romney either
Neither are you.
Thanks to zh for the detail, thanks to the kids for the summary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_1B0w7Hzc
America will be destroyed because we, (American Citizen's), allowed it.
Don't blame it on the average citizen (yet). Blame it on the highest levels of the military, law enforcement, and Congress. It's their job to impeach or arrest the criminals at the top, a job they've failed at for the longest time.
And the whole time average citizens have returned the same people to power. It is most certainly their fault, and MASS ARRESTS aren't on the way to save the day.
Nothing will chenge until it all falls apart.
at this point, that Amero idea looks good.. just make a Saudi type pact with Hugo and pool all the America's together.. would love to freely move about both continents.. with Costa Rica in the middle as a great home base
I wonder if they would build a bridge from Miami to Cuba...hmm
Man .. how I wish for Ron Paul.
He should have went independent and split the vote even if it meant an Obama win... like any of this really matters.
This article is nearly moot as those things described have already happened. If you collectively take The Patriot Act, The TSA and The NDAA by letter of the law, between the three they obliterate The Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments.
What have Americans done about it? Elected same but different assholes that continue the policies eroding the very fundamentals this nation was founded on. The best part? They watched it happen!
There will be no "revolution". Even if there were a monetary collapse, there would be Legislation in place that would prevent you from doing anything by the barrel of a gun.
The only illusion of true freedom in today's era are those of us that have no debts, have financial stability even if you don't need to work, as the rest are screwed. They will be forced to do whatever the government/plutocrats tell them to do because they have no choice. No? Think of the MILLIONS of Americans NOW completely dependent on the government to survive.
Yep, 100% correct. The 99%, literally, will line up to receive their personal "implant" which will be required in order to receive the monthly govt handout. They will have 100% control of what you do unless you are in a position to refuse the implant and live independent of the cheese. Most will not be in that position. In 15 years, it won't matter however - you will get with the program or else.
OBAMA WINS.
Prediction Markets Decided For Obama Months Ago...
http://stks.co/gESo
Look at the bookies not the prediction markets.
I think it would almost be better if Obama wins.
We all know that the non productive group supports Obama. No great loss there. The few Obama supporters who have a brain are on board with the destruction anyway.
Romney supporters would (hopefully) become more vigilant expecting the worst. Maybe some could be saved.
If Romney wins, his supporters might expect better times and get blindsided and would be lost.
I hate to admit it but....... you're probably 100% correct
No no no... American soverignty will not go the way of the dinosaur. Millions of good guys in and around the military, law enforcement, and patriotic circles will move to arrest the Prez and hundreds of federal and state traitors.
No blue helmets in your neighborhood, no WWIII or Civil War II. Cooler heads must prevail. JFK saved your life in the Cuban Missile Crisis and this is one of those moments. Let's see the forest through the trees. All those worthless Prezidential edicts like NDAA and everything else are toilet paper when the people roar.
Yeah, that is good. Remembering 'americans' they have a right to arrest and plenty of guns to back it up.
Most of this population cannot roar; they will only yawn, scratch themselves, and change the channel before rolling over and going back to sleep.
While your hopefulnees is nice, it ain't happening. Military and law enforcement aren't giving up their government money and pensions, period.
A couple of days ago a lovely young lady came to my door to tell me how to vote. Before she gave her pitch I told her I was a conscience-us objector. She immediately took a step back as if it were contagious. I didn't bother explaining why.
I live in a small college town. I was thinking of taking a walk downtown to the courthouse and getting a wiff of democracy. But I'm catching a breeze all the way out here in the avenues... a bit foul, really.
This 'Dummy' Report Gave Romney A Huge Lead In Ohio, And May Have Ignited The Market Rally
THE FINAL CRASH – THE END OF U.S. DOMINANCE IN 2013 – Part Two – The Economic Crash of 2013
They only do because we allow it. Everyone please google Title 18 Section 7. This is where the territorial jurisdiction of the United States is defined. It says 3 times in only 1 1/2 pages that IT DOES NOT EXTEND INTO THE STATES. That's right and it is there in their words in black and white. But, if you have ever claimed to be a citizen of the United States (better look the SS card application), then they take your word for it. Look at the 14th Amendment. In the first sentence it tells you that a citizen of the United States is subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Your mistake is their gain. F'n oops!
AGree but there is no longer a constitution. That was taken away long ago.
Until you no longer know right from wrong, the constitution (and all law) ain't worth the paper it's written on.
Ultimately it is the consensus of people that is the final foundation of any governance. When they don't rebel and don't obstruct their rulers, all "safeguards" are meaningless. In USA govt has already done things violating guidliness that were supposed to restrain it. Yet most people still vote, pay taxes and fight in wars.
It is unfortunate, people will not wake up until they are on fire.
Lets all hope it is not too late.
The heat has been turned up slowly. It is too late for the majority.
Remember the story about boiling the frog. If you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, it hops out. If you put a frog into a pot of cold water and turn up the heat gradually, it boils to death.
It's too late. We must pay the Piper.
I know this may look like SPAM but it ain't!
I'm trying to edmucate you Voters: (there's something for everyone here!)
YouTube - "Howard Roark, You Didn't Build That!" says President Obama
YouTube - MIDGET v. GIANT: You Didn't Build That, James Dean! says President Obama
'Obi-Wan Kenobi... You Didn't Build That!' sez President Obama.
- YouTube
'Nazi Party? Adolf Hitler... You Didn't Build That!' sez President Obama
- YouTube
"You Didn't Build That Frankenstein!' sez President Obama
- YouTube
YouTube - You didn't build that Tower, Japheth! Some other Jew made that happen, sez President Obama
YouTube - Obama on Romney in 7 Seconds
YouTube - Obama on Romney's Debate Promise
YouTube - Corporations are the Luckiest People! Obama bitch slaps Mitt for being Ridiculous!
YouTube - Tough Guys Don't Dance: Obama in Five on Hard Man Paul Ryan
YouTube - Obama gets Romney in a Clinch
YouTube - Presidential Debate - Cliff Robertson to Romney: 'How Do You Know?''
YouTube - "Things Screw Up" says Prez Obama, "Gaddafi promised me a Bugatti and left me with Bengzahi instead!
YouTube - 'Difference between me and the Terrorists? They can't blame Bush!' says President Obama
YouTube - Dr Obama declares a major outbreak of 'Romnesia' on Debate set in Florida
YouTube - CDC Asks President Obama's Help in Stopping Romnesia: a viral Plague Sweeping across America!
YouTube - Victim of Campaign He Blew his Mind out in a Fridge: Here's a Voter who would not Take It Anymore!
YouTube - Nikola Tesla Romney
YouTube - Mormon Bishop Mitt on the Importance of the Show Me State: Missouri
YouTube - Bishop Mitt: You Don't Fuck with the Jesus!
YouTube - Flip-Flop Monkey and Mitt Romney square off against each other. (a Re-imagining by Jean Luc Godard)
YouTube - Rick Perry: The Political Gaffe heard Round the World! - featuring The Tabernacle Choir of Oops!
YouTube - Hobson's Choice for America: Ron Paul 'Chomsky' or Michelle Bachmann 'Hitler' for President
YouTube - Mitt on Illegals: I've got 99 Problems and your Grandma ain't One!
I cast my vote for Emperor Shaddam IV this morning.
Should have voted for nice Atreides boy, I heard he really has his shit together, Golden Path and all.
It was a tough decision. Ultimately I like voting for the fictional villians though... because at least they're honest about it.
In 2008 it was Lex Luthor.
i want the liberals to lose big tonight just to stick their "we're the mainstream, you tea baggers are extremists" right back up in the orifice it belongs.
Get tired of hearing this lie from these socialist mofos.
And, if Obama gets elected again I want to see him impeached for lying about, and betraying, his sole pledge to defend and preserve the Constitution.
If that's not impeachable enough an offense, than what is?
Great article!! Sadly Brandon is probably spot on as to what lies ahead! Keep stackin physical gold, silver etc.....
Good luck to us all!!
No Fair -you plagiarized me! I didn't write this but this is a very succinct summary of what I have been saying for several years now.
What is so obvious to thoese of us with a brain - sadly escapes the zombified pod people massess with their heads up their asses high on the bittersweet fumes of methane enhanced with articial sweeteners -
Latest intrade odds - Oblammo 303 to R-money 235
http://www.intrade.com/v4/misc/electoral-map/
how can you destroy a sand castle once the tide comes in? It happens all on its own.
Even King Canute couldn't command the tide. They can't hide behind the phoney result, its the great debt divide behind the tinsel facade that brings down the stampeding herd of mad fiat generation.
This is really just the Delphi Technique taken to its logical end. We know how this will end. Regrettably it will either be Obama or Romney.
Using the Delphi Technique to Achieve Consensus - How it is leading us away from representative government to an illusion of citizen participation.
http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1998/nov98/focus.html
http://overmanwarrior.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/the-delphi-technique-how-...
... and YouTube:
Exposing the Delphi Technique in Public Meetings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zpA1althjo&feature=g-hist
Fascinating, thank you.
And of course any operative with real ambition must understand Neuro Linguistic Programming.
"They are fry cooks serving greasy overpriced democracy with no real sustenance."
Would you like fries with that? No no no no.
Can you afford fries with that?????
MORE SUCCINCTLY...
Both will continue the politics of 9/11 - just as the creators and exploiters of 9/11 wanted and want.
Both candidates are in bed with/beholden to somewhat different factions of global international banking, war profiteering corporations, oil and gas companies - and of course organized {right wing} Jewry/Zionism.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2012/07/demystifying-911-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake/
You make them look into Building 7, the 9/11 nonsense narrative unravels, when that unravels, the master plans of the neocons/bankers/oil-and-gas oligarchs becomes obvious.
The truth is not only out there, it's easy to find. Sometimes it's a struggle to see what's right in front of your nose. Keep a close eye on Senator Lieberman - that Learned Elder is absolutely tied in with Mossad and the 3rd Temple crowd who would kill the whole world to make Jerusalem its capital.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2012/07/demystifying-911-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake/
Michael Hoffman's definition of Judaism: "The worship of the Judaic male as God."
Hey, that fits my personal definition of Christianity. Same guy, same childish habits.
I think this will be very close. Both candidates have some problems to deal with.
Obama has the "ghost of elections past" where he made lots of statements and promises he then decided not to honour, also there seems to be a change in his core of supporters where people are getting over the skin color bs and focusing on things that actually matter.
This guy is a good example of that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoABH1d9_vA
Romney has plenty of baggage too. Its not hard to imagine Romney with a glass of Champagne in a group of Wallstreet hyenas.
Both candidates represent something the USA could do without.
Long riot gear and fly spray.
Notice about the time the general population realizes things are going to hell and we've been had the elite shift gears and throw all this other shit at us they'll always be several steps ahead unless there really is the collapse of all collapses and ww3 that's so bad there's no spiderweb of shitheads left.
When he says, "America, the Hope of the earth", that's a very Mormon statement. They literally believe America is the navel of the world. So with Jesus "Christ" coming back to America you'd better have your magic underwear handy.
@ .."Destroy America." ..
i am not sure what "America" is. something
of the mind of many, a noun/word attempting to
express a view, a complex set of principles
that were to be universal but those principles
were embraced locally and abused globally so it
was just an ideology used as a weapon by a few insiders
and then were exploited to accomplish ends perfectly
opposed to those principles.
will it be destroyed? the abuse and illusion of it
is already dead and being whipped in hell, the principles
and ideals, on the other hand, are eternal and eternally
on the horizon; waiting for the people to know them
and themselves. (same thing)
.
great post !
"I'm not sure what america is."
To most, it is the feeling one gets from the resoance of the background vibrations of feelings, events,and attitudes from what we once had.
Read some Joe Bageant some time. He will paint a most beautiful description of what it was.
like:
AMERICA: Y UR PEEPS B SO DUM
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/12/america-y-ur-peeps-b-so-dum.html#more
or
The Great American Media Mind Warp
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2007/08/the-great-ameri.html
You will see average americans through a great ameriican writer.
and where's ROn Paul now?
That's right. He's already a hero to some lazy, non-politically minded people.
why should he risk assassination by running as an independent?
He's probably counting his pay-off.
He's not gonna stand up to the system, so he is no better than the system.
Compare him to Bernie Sanders, the Independent from Vermont. He's trying
to pass a law taking personhood away from corporations. It's got a snowball's
chance in hell, but it still takes guts.
Obama and Romney are both so wonderful.
I only regret I can't vote for both of them.
I guess there's only one way to chose: Eeny meeny meiny moe........
I read all the posts...
Romney is halfway home now. He is currently losing Ohio though.
vote with your feet and take a skill with you
FUCK! What is this? Yahoo message board? FUCK! I gotta find a new website.
Love the way ZH puts a positive spin on everything.
"2012 is going to be the beginning of upheaval and renewal, for better or for worse, and it is certain that the guy in the White House into 2013, Republican or Democrat, is going to be a part of the problem, nothing more".
True, however I'm happy the captain of the titanic is a socialist, just as we have a socialist government in the Netherlands and in France, just as we have a socialistic best economy in the world with the biggest population China (Sarc). Why, because if there ever has been a dumber philosophy I have yet to discover it. When everything fails I'm grateful it is socialism that fails with it. Regardless of how the socialist will blame the market, 8 year of Obama won't prevent the cataclysmic end of this 60 year old system, the biggest success of Asia won't be able to prevent it, it will end as has been foretold with equal sharing of misery and hopefully when the remnants start rebuilding after the storm has swept the world, they will understand it is socialism that finished the old era and is not needed in the new era, perhaps they will be able to rebuild a new and prosperous world in which even expressing socialistic sympathies will be enough to get you hanged.