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Obama Wins Presidency, NBC Projects
NBC news just announced that it projects a victory for Obama in Ohio. Which means the Florida vote is now moot, and which means Barack Obams has been relected as president of the US.
Via NBC:
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Yea, it's called SCYTL. Moron, you really think America want's this degenerate?
Romney, the great data-driven businesssman could not beat Obama, who you think is an idiot. Yet you wanted Romney to run the country. What does that say....about you.
Just remember, brilliant + evil == diabolical.
2016 = Elizabeth Warren
I gotta admit I was wrong. I thought O would lose and riots would erupt. #dontknowshit. At least I got Au n Ag for this time of need.
Bottom line, your taxes are going up, your debt is going to accelerate, cost of doing business will go up, etc. S&P down, gold up.
We had a chance to at least get rid of a lying, murdering narcissist. Would Romney be any better? Judging from his campaign advisors, mostly alums from the lying, murdering Bush Administration, probably not. But at least he would have started out without blood on his hands. It takes a special kind of monster to revel in spilling blood like Obama does. Maybe Romney wouldn't have had the stomach for it. It doesn't matter now. Obama does have the stomach for it, and you can expect the rate of blood-spilling to increase dramatically and domestically. It's going to make a Quentin Tarantino film look like a Disney flick. Go long hemoglobin!
A winner of a US presidential race proves he is the better 'american' of the two candidates.
US americans are led by the finest 'american' among themselves. That is the way it works.
Bear with it.
did i miss the drinking game? short term positive with a bigger crash coming...
looks like mit twill have to become a trillionaire someother way.
LMAO, they play ''Sign Sealed Delivered I'm Yours'' when Rosemary's Baby walked out to meet the antichrist crowd of American scumbags that voted for him. Perfect.
vague oratory and massive government
The Michelle Obama Wardrobe Signal Remains In Effect http://chartistfriendfrompittsburgh.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-michelle-ob...
Now Obama and the rest must serve 4 more years; 8 years total. I'm starting to think that this is a good thing. All the big mouth two-faced, self-serving crypto-communists who hate the Republic will have to captain their Titanic. All the brats who voted for the red pill or blue pill will be poisoned, lazy victims of their own brat ways.
There is no more money. The productive economy is dead. QE to infinity and beyond will reign because the baby boomers and their brat kids busted their personal debt ceiling, repeatedly, and let biggest banks do the same.
Meanwhile, self-sufficient communities will quietly keep faith with true American values, and the Republic. Excellent.
People who say move abroad are deluded, as the implosion of the world financial system will soon prove. Best be surrounded by honest community, rather than hateful monarchists, despots, and grubby thieving illiterates...the illegals that globalists use to distort the U.S.
Chill, ZH. Let's enjoy seeing the liars hoisted by their own petard...
Not until long after you and most of your deluded friends are hoisted on the predators petards.
America made the gutsy call to maintain the status quo!
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Only one rational and one semi-rational choice remain:
#1: Get outta dodge if you haven't already.
#2: Make the system destroy itself.
#1 means move to the [extreme boonies] in some less predator-infested part of the world.
#2 means get yourself fired (or better yet, feign an injury), then get yourself on unemployment, disability and any other bogus government program you can (plus social security, medicare, medicade, whatever). Then get every credit card you can possibly get, charge them up to the limit to buy physical gold (which you bury very privately and securely in the boonies somewhere, outside the country if you're smart). If you are anywhere near "under water", stop paying your mortgage and see how long you can live before the banks give up on you and go through the hassle of forcing you out (3 years). If you demand they produce the original mortgage, you might be able to stay forever.
If a large portion of the population did #2, the federal government would self-destruct in years... possibly even months if this approach became seriously popular. All republicans and independents and libertarians need do to take down the system is... stop working.
But they won't, because they're stupid, braindamaged, authoritarian-loving sheeple. They just prefer their own authoritiarian, but don't have any significant gripe with slavery.
I think WallStreetPro2 tried #2. Haven't heard anything from him in a few years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2fVqDzjVis
Thanks for sharing. I'm a relative latecomer here and that guy is a cool "motherfucker".
Oh, and in case anyone missed the obvious, #2 isn't radical at all. Probably 25% to 40% of the jerks who voted for Obama already practice option #2. They voted for Obama so they can keep it up, and maybe even get more bribes (unlikely, now that Obama is effectively emperor and no longer needs them for votes).
If everyone became a die-hard practicing liberal (on the dole), the federal government would spiral into the black hole in a matter of months. Not kidding. Not one bit.
#1 means move to the [extreme boonies] in some less predator-infested part of the world.
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What a delusion or poor propaganda (pick is already done when one knows of 'american' nature)
As put by one 'american' on here, the US is the eye of storm. No place in the world is more protected from the bad consequences of 'americanism' than the US.
Moving elsewhere means exposing oneself more to the brutality of 'americanism'
Often, you find 'americans' calling for people to move to Iran if one wants to flee from 'americanism'. When Iran is one of the places in the world under the most pressure from 'americanism. 'Americans' are manoeuvering hard and fast to destroy that nation and the piece of advice of 'americans' is to move where the 'american' destruction is about to climax.
Cant tell that 'americans' did not make it clear though.
No so long ago, it was pretty clear that a presidential to kill people outside the US was not a big deal, be they holders of US citizenship or not by the way.
Concerns only grew when it is about killing US Americans holding US citizenship in the US.
Written on the walls for all to see but the solution should be to move out of the US shelter.
Either delusion or cheap propaganda. The answer is already made.
Your reply is mostly overgeneralization. You are most certainly correct that most people will be safer in the USSA than in Iran, Pakistan, or many locations in Africa... probably for several more years. However, that observation does not imply there are not much safer places for individuals who care about liberty.
I moved out of the USSA 3 years ago, and my life is vastly better, and I do mean vastly. And when I say "my life", I mean both my "general enjoyment of life" and my "liberty" are substantially improved. Sure, I didn't just move to a random place on the globe, say "Europe" or "Russia" or "Iran", I intentionally selected what I thought would be the best choice. I did not try to relocate myself under the next barrage of predator drone strikes! No kidding.
I am sad to say that you are correct to imply (or state) that a great many so-called 'americans' sanction if not outright support overtly malicious, aggressive actions by the federal government of the USSA against people elsewhere in the world. That is simply disgusting, and those people should stay in the USSA until the predator drones blow up their homes. Good riddens to those people, just as it was good riddens for supporters of Hitler to get bombed into oblivion.
In the long run, there is no way to tell whether 'americans' in the USSA will end up like 'germans' in nazi germany. Who knows, the USSA might dominate the planet for a long time, or more likely the whole planet gets sucked into a NWO one-world government just as nations in Europe are being sucked into the eurozone. But that's probably not going to happen within the next 10 years... hopefully.
If you actually want the USSA to "shelter" you, well... "you asked for it". Personally I don't want to see anyone with any so-called "official uniform" or "official title" or "official authority" to "help" me or "shelter" me. If that were to happen, I'm sure they'd shelter me in a cage of some kind, because I care about my liberty.
It is no delusion or propaganda that some places on this planet are better than the USSA. And in some ways the USSA is better. For example, if having shopping malls as close as possible to anywhere you might happen to go is the most important thing in your life, then the USSA is tops. The USSA may also be tops if all you care about is getting into as deep debt as you possibly can. But the USSA is definitely not tops if you want to live your life, enjoy liberty, and not be enslaved and assaulted by "official" predators. To claim the USSA is better in these ways is to suffer extreme delusion and propaganda.
Where is this place you moved, honestann? I am very curious. Canada? Switzerland? I do not mean to pry.
I don't give out the answer for reasons of privacy (from predators). However, I'll tell you a few of the places I chose from after exploring most of them (and researching all of them quite a bit).
Fiji, Peru, Nepal, Chile, Iceland, Ecuador, Mongolia, NewZealand.
BUT, you must always remember a few things (some of which are not obvious, but make sense once you learn them). Here are some of the most important.
#1: The theoretical nature of the country is not nearly as important as the practical reality. For example, the "declaration of independence" and "constitution" should ("in theory" and "on paper") make the USSA a great place to live. As it turns out, some (but not all) of the best places to live have theoretically horrible "governments".
Take Fiji as a great example. For practical purposes, some nutcase took over the country several years ago and deemed himself "king". Thus, in theory and on paper, Fiji is a horrible choice. And lots of westerners fled Fiji because that even worried them. However, what is the real, actual, factual situation "on the ground"? Answer: the "ruler" and other predators who want to be "top dog" AKA "government" spend all their time arguing on the island where the capital city is. But Fiji is roughly 300 islands spread over a large area of the south pacific ocean! The government is poor, operates very much like the keystone cops, is totally focused on the main island, and almost entirely absent from any of the other islands. Which means, in practice, Fiji is a wonderful place! Totally counter-intuitive, but true. And Fiji has [effectively] allodial titles to land, which means "real ownership" and NO property tax (essentially "freehold title without property tax").
#2: If you live in the boonies (or better yet, a "tiny remote island" or the "extreme boonies"), the "government" is not aware of you or interested in you, and you'll almost certainly never see them. I spent quite a bit of time in the high Andes mountains (especially in and near the Atacama region), and stayed with a couple nano-villages (actually more like an extended family).
These people were real natives. Most of them had never received or spent a single peso in their entire lives. They are totally self-sufficient, just like the 100 generations before them. The governments of those nations does not bother these people. I can't say whether this is out of "convention" or some form of "general respect" for the people who were there tens of thousands of years before the invaders those governments represent. However, I can say, those are the most wonderful, generous, helpful people I have ever met (after they got to know me for a couple days). I know they'd take a bullet before they'd ever let any harm come to me, which I know sounds insane, but you have to experience them to understand. But then again, I had so much respect for them and their self-sufficient ways, they could probably tell I felt the same about them.
While a few of the younger generation "vanish to the cities, never to return" from the high Andes every year, most of these people have never been more than 20 km from their homes. You literally cannot imagine, and I cannot express, the childlike joy and enthusiasm (of the elders especially) when I took them up in my small 2-seater aircraft and flew them around for a few hours in the high andes mountains that surrounds their homes. I wouldn't trade that experience for anything. A kid dropped at Santa's workshop at the north pole wouldn't be as jazzed as they were.
Bottom line: live in the boonies, or better yet, the extreme boonies.
#3: If you want to live a conventional life in some town or city, probably you should forget NewZealand, because it is just as socialist as the place you are trying to escape. However, if you plan on vanishing into the boonies, and you don't mind being cold, then NewZealand has the advantage of "lots of english speakers"... sorta. I mean, you can understand what passes for english there. :-)
#4: If you don't mind being cold, and you are looking for big-money opportunities in natural resources, then Mongolia is probably your place.
#5: Do you care a lot about some aspect of your environment? For example, do you hate humidity? Do you hate cold? Do you hate cities? Do you love snorkeling in warm ocean waters with endless coral reefs and tropical fishes? If so, you must factor in those considerations.
#6: Do have have lots of savings, or are you looking for somewhere to stretch your modest savings? Nepal, Peru, Ecuador and Mongolia may be good for many folks with modest savings.
#7: Do you need to "get a conventional job"? If so, NewZealand might be good (though immigration can be a real bitch if you do it "by the book" and don't have some skill that is in seriously short supply). Ecuador and Fiji are good options for english-only speakers, because a higher percentage of people speak english.
If you're starting to get the feeling that the best choice very much depends on your personal likes and dislikes, and on your personal situation... then you are very correct.
To give you a few hints about my choice, I lived in Wailea, Maui, Hawaii for many years before I escaped the USSA, because I love oceans and warm crystal clear tropical waters to explore. But I also love dry desert environments, mountains, wild and crazy geology, and empty, barren, lifeless, super-remote, extreme-boonies. That's all the hints I'm willing to give here in the open.
I hope these tips helped.
PS: Switzerland was a possibility too, but being in the middle of euroland didn't hold any appeal whatsoever (ground zero of NWO operations). Also, now Switzerland has sold out to the USSA, so... yuk. And Canada is USSA-light, and much too close to the same predators I most wanted to escape.
after all the vitriol heaped on anyone who,
I look forward to hearing ZH'rs reporting from the benefits trenches. that'll make for some great in-fighting on threads. . .
Of course. It is incredibly SICK that the only practical way that remains for liberty advocates to end authoritarianism is... to adopt it for a short time. But that does seem to be an accurate description of the state of reality right now. Does anyone actually believe they can fight the authoritarians in control of the USSA today? Really? I wish they are correct and I am wrong, but I doubt it.
HOWEVER, it is simply a FACT that someone must produce the goods and goodies that are handed out by government. Therefore, it is simply a FACT that the government could not hand out those goods and goodies if every producer said "screw this" and went on the dole themselves.
Actually, producers could simply stop producing but not go on the dole and that would have the same results too. But it would take enough longer that the intermediate consequences would be worse (before the predators collapsed).
The question is. If the only way remaining to destroy predatory-authoritarianism is for producers to "go on strike" and "suck the system dry", then... why not? It isn't that producers advocate predatory-authoritarianism, it is simply that producers decide to accept the decision of the majority, and stop letting the predators and parasites live off them.
what you're suggesting has been done before - late 70's British DIY/punk culture arose mainly from people intentionally on the dole, and even when forced into gov't "job schemes" most were smart/creative enough to duck 'n' dive for prolonged periods until their gigs took off.
amrkns for the most part don't really have that gene, as far as I've seen. most seem to do things out of anger or retribution, not creatively.
perhaps it's the times. . . /shrug.
Well, the time for "anger and retribution" was 1913... at the very, very latest. Since that hasn't happened even today, I have to wonder about how much "anger" and "retribution" remains in "americans".
Of course the predators-DBA-government of the USSA engage in all sorts of faux "retribution" all the time. Examples: Iraq, and soon Iran.
I think we're turning Japanese.... Or Greek.
THE NEW COLORADO STATE THEME SONG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hghUdXKykM
WE LIKE MARIJUANA TOO!
:)~
New National Anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiiD8KeAFew
The US Dollar will now be fully backed by food stamps.
which in fact are pixels accessed with plastic cards issued by JPM - not so very different, hm?
Phew!! I was worried there that Obamney would lose.
Market exploded up 1% yesterday on Romney victory rumor. Debunked and after hours gave it all up, futures down 100 points. Obama wins and we are green on futures. No rhyme or reason for anything - market just reacts randomly to whatever.
s&p bound between 1400 and 1450...triple top forming since early september...unimpressive move on fed and election...if 1400 breaks look out below
Fuck all you loser republican dipshits who voted for Romney. GO BACK TO THE FUCKING STONE AGES!! BIBLE CAMP NEEDS LOSERS NOW BEAT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BIAAAAAAAAAAATCH
Calm down. Look at the results...obviously no one voted for Romney.
You should be a lot happier than that, barring another bush/gore fix, the tea party has doomed the repubs to obscurity, the demographics of minorities and women are screwing them in this election and the youth vote has gone dem more than last time, repubs need to clean house and fast, a single party running the system is very bad for democracy and the republic even if its your fave party of dems, think belarus or ukraine but with nicer weather, you think just cos its the dems they wont expand state and federal controls?
If so i bet you thought obama was going to close gitmo, jail wall st thieves and put a brake on the power of the executive branch.
Hows that workin out for you.
Just an impassioned observation from across the pond.......
If by impassioned you meant naive then you are basically ejaculating gallons of sperm (jodeci playing) on a heart shaped bed with champagne looking at a fireplace and hot tub. Obama is just a politician. I just don't like religious assholes aka Republicans and I'm elated at how their hopes were raised only to get CRUSHED like the pussies that they are. Wall St. and Gitmo are gonna do their thing doesn't matter if Mike Tyson is president. People from Europe love to chime in clinging to the 6 political facts about America they know...............whatever you read about America is wrong. America is a banana republic with a first world veneer. How generic can your assessment be?
I gave you an up arrow for the michael moore quote
"America is a banana republic with a first world veneer."
I am outraged and saddened by your hurtful and truthful comment.
What an idiot. The libertarian majority here couldn't care less.
Torching the Constitution will continue until morale improves.
If confirmed, bad news for 'americans' who live in a post theft economy. While many Indo europeans (asians)elected personal are struggling to retain their presidential mandate in this economical environment, this negro re -election would show that the talent (if one can call it like that) for being an 'american' is not the priviledge of an elected few but is expressed by even the lowest race in the world at magnitude 'american' Indo Europeans fail to compete with.
It seems that the ball in this 'american' world is now on the side of 'americans' who still live in a pre theft economy paradigm.
Bad news indeed for post theft economy 'americans' if confirmed.
I just opened this up, 26,666 reads, is this significant?
2016 BACKWARDS!
Of course it is.
G*d speaks to us in strange ways.
Signed: an American.
Praise be to cthulhu.
Some Gems from Facebook after a fiscally conservative friend makes the mistake of bringing up the crap Obama is about to drag the economy through, his responses:
Holy Crap, fine art major to better your future?
That might be the very definition of entitled. And probably paranoid since controling uteri was not in any of the literature.Over here in europe what you call entitlements we call human rights, funny old world.
And yet akin and mourdock both lost their seats, likely due to their statements on controlling uteri.
you might want to read up on the literature before you cast your next vote, tool.
OBAMA ~ The Smart Money Knew Months Ago...
http://trader618.com/2012/11/07/obama-the-smart-money-knew-months-ago
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-24/market-analysis
and the market rallies. Dat be meanin they be mo o dat obama/bernanke money.
Former U.S. president George W. Bush accidentally voted for Barack Obama today at a polling place near his Crawford, TX home.
According to local reports, the two-term Republican was confused by the instructions on his electronic voting machine and mistakenly cast a ballot he intended to discard. !!!
It's OK. You're allowed to vote for YOURSELF.
How could someone know how another person voted?
I mean, in the US of A, not in some (other) totalitarian state.
Who cares who won ... bring me an Ipad mini with voice capability and the note 3 with holograph and bendable screen and .. and .. and.. fcuk
Actually had a FB friend post they couldn't care less about the election b/c their political leaning was iphone... and he was dead serious, I remember he was raving over the first iphone back in 07 during the summer session of college.
So what have we all got to look forward to in four more years of unopposed, "not concerned with re-election prospects" policies?
Certain increase in Global Interference, Very probably involvement in major / significantly destabilising actions in the Middle East.
Discovery that "withdrawal from Afghanistan" isn't possible (not withoout starting another "terrorist" led campaign),
Ongoing currency debasement,
Increasing realisation of the concept "Why work when others can work for you" - i.e. expansion of the Welfare State to a point where NO-ONE in their right mind would work,
Further, and more significant, erosion of Constitutional and Common-Law rights,
Further militarisation of the Police Forces, and their support organisations,
Further expansion of the policies of legal "micro-management" with the aim of ensuring everyone will break some or other obscure "law" on a daily basis, so will be a valid target for "fines" and other excise strategies,
Centralised database to "track" everyone (since now everyone will be legitimately classed as a criminal)
Significant restrictions on free speech: very significant restrictions on Internet use, and expansion of data retention (Internet, E-mail, Telephone)
Establishment of "mail inspection" in order to extend the reach of the "War on Terrorism"
Organised "dissapearance" of those regarded as "terrorists" (or in reality those who do, or might, pose a threat to the "Establishment").
Sounds fun: Add extra criteria I may have missed . . . . .
Increasing realisation of the concept "Why work when others can work for you"
You talking bout snap cards or the bank bailouts?
Bullshit
Yeah, American Pussies will be the new Norm. Shows the pussification and shit does have value.
Hope you're all ok with cat turd sandwiches for dinner. We could have had dog shit burgers which would have been just as tasty, but the dog shit didn't have time to thaw.
And by the way pass me the Bernanke sauce.
This morning, Obama graciously thanked all of the idiots who voted for Ron Paul
Had nothing to do with Ron Paul. You can't trot out a dead fish in magic underwear and expect it to defeat anything.
BS. He thanked RP for chickening out (unlike Gary Johnson) and allowing the charade to go on undisturbed.
Obama's election tells me that white voters no longer want to have racial equality.
White Women have spoken that they are and can be dumb as well. The pussies have spoken, the dicks win, Basketball, Football and Pimps. Long live the Pussies of Amerika.
I am sensing that you have more troubles than just a lost election. I heard the pharmacy has some great pills for that.
Anger management can allow you to live outside the prison system.
I disagree with a TON of Obama's policies (indefinite detentions, no legal representation, signature drone strikes, etc.), but I have to admit that Romney not winning is GREAT...even if the difference between him and Obama is minor.
Also great to see a lot of the Tea Party crazies losing out...and great people like Elizabeth Warren (who are strongly for removing money out of politics!) win.
Look on the bright side. The NDAA also has the power to disappear Wall St and maybe even the Fed.
True...but unless people like Elizabeth Warren are successful at removing money from politics, those sock puppets won't ever make WS or the Fed disappear.
It doesn't matter who's side you're on, one thing should be clear: MONEY NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM POLITICS.
Until that happens all we get is one sock puppet after the other...
As someone waiting for the sandman, I think its money that has to be removed. One of the hardest things in this world is having to explain money to a 4yr old. It sounds false and always will.
LOL...
You can't remove money from politics just like you can't remove power-seeking-people from politics. Nice fantasy though. Sometimes I wish I was still that naive.
You can't remove it completely, but stupid things like "corporations are people my friend" need to go. Politicians should also be barred from working for their donors once they quit...at least for some period of time. Otherwise we have those stupid conflict of interests as we do now...
Superpacs need to go too...PEOPLE should elect leaders, not whatever entity has the most money to dumb down voters with comical ads.
/sarc off
I wasn't being sarcastic ;)
No, Israel and the Jew World Order won the presidency with their Robamney ticket. Stupid goyim!
I predict that Obama will tell the Zionest to go stuff it and lead the way for a Russo/American Pact. So let it be written, so let it be done. Abra mutherfucking Kadabra!!
No surprise there!....RON PAUL!...Hey!...Where are you?!...
:P
Okay folks, rig the ship of State for The Great Implosion™, assume crash positions...
We can go back to ignoring Ohio again.
nmewn must be on suicide watch...
"You should be a lot happier than that, barring another bush/gore fix, the tea party has doomed the repubs to obscurity, the demographics of minorities and women are screwing them in this election and the youth vote has gone dem more than last time, repubs need to clean house and fast, a single party running the system is very bad for democracy and the republic even if its your fave party of dems, think belarus or ukraine but with nicer weather, you think just cos its the dems they wont expand state and federal controls?
If so i bet you thought obama was going to close gitmo, jail wall st thieves and put a brake on the power of the executive branch.
Hows that workin out for you.
Just an impassioned observation from across the pond.."
Congratulations!
The above is the first example of "Wednesday morning quarterbacking" in either a paid opinion piece or blog freeby that I've seen. It is well put.
Separately, for those who are bitterly disappointed that the Democrican candidate won and the Republicrat one lost, I hope your stash of whatever it is you use for such occasions will tide you over and that on a day-to-day basis, you will retain peace of mind and good health.
Blessings
It's not a question of a fiscal cliff,in my opinion it's just the size of it.Even if you cut it by a third right now,you have to cut it back again.Reality is this:spending cannot continue as it is as if the status quo is ok.It's not.Everybody knows that history tells a tale.Defence spending and spending on war has pretty well bankrupted the balance sheet.Obama has to take the U.S. down a different path.Defence spending to Health Care spending and spending at home.He has to be careful though.Remember Eisenhowers statement on how powerful the institutional defence industry has become in America.I'm always reminded about how they got rid of Kennedy.Question is,can Obama shift control of the economy away from the defence industry acting as the worlds policeman.If the Iran war breaks out,the U.S. will be definetly bankrupt.I can remember when Republicans were totally different from these right wing tea party nutcases and didn't want to get tied up in other countries problems around the globe.Why not let China and others go broke by defence spending and instead spend taxpayer dollars at home in America.Just look around you at all the run down cities and towns across the U.S.,it's a national disgrace.
Congratulations King Pyrrhus. You have defeated the Romans at Heraclea and Asculum. Forward!
Obama didn't win this...........