Boehner's Pre-buttal Of Obama's Future Speech - Live Webcast

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Shortly, Speaker John Boehner will provide some clarity to what was heralded by so many hope-mongering media types as an olive-branch in his previous speech. We suspect the fire and brimstone will pick up modestly while there will be just enough to offer hope that all our fears are misplaced. This apparent pre-buttal of Obama's 1pmET speech will set the tone for how these two 'colleagues' will play for the next few months... perhaps the "Don't Tax Me Bro'" t-shirts will raise enough taxes to cover the shortfall?

 

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Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:05 | 2964599 slaughterer
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Prepare for slurred-speech political psychopathy and orange-faced brinkmanship 3,2,1.. (maybe a poorly delivered golf joke to make himself look human).  

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:05 | 2964603 malikai
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How dare you talk about Boner like that.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:09 | 2964617 Troll Magnet
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CRY, BITCH! CRRRRRRYYY!!!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:19 | 2964644 kralizec
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Don't worry, he will cry, but only after getting up off his knees and wiping off his chin...

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:32 | 2964700 LawsofPhysics
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Unfortunately, you actually need to have an "official" income in order to "officially" pay taxes.  I am always willing to talk about taxation if everyone else is willing to discuss inflation in all those things we need to survive.   Long black markets and any other medium of exchange besides fiat. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

Stupid sheep.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2964747 El Viejo
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I love it when these Mullahs wag their finger.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:58 | 2964800 MillionDollarBogus_
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My million dollar bonus is on the bet that says both sides will not reach a consensus before the end of the year.

The strategy is then for one side to give a bit and claim they saved the day.

This is less about solving a problem and more about making the other side look bad. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 13:03 | 2964825 overmedicatedun...
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my take is the congress holds off until a minimum amount of vig is placed in off shore accounts..then viola.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 13:13 | 2964857 francis_sawyer
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There's no crying in baseball...

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 16:09 | 2965624 eatthebanksters
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The republicans know they will NEVER get back to the way it was...if Boner is smart he'll let Obama just fuck itall up and let the market forces go to work.  I'd tell Boner to sit back, light up a fag and enjoy the show. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:34 | 2966388 Flakmeister
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You clearly do not understand politics....

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 15:22 | 2965541 larz
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today we made history there was bi-partisan crying Obama and Boehner - no wonder consumer confidence was up in spite of the worst economy and future outlook ever

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 17:57 | 2966256 kita27
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why does this guy get the media and everyone to pronounce his name as 'Bayner' and not 'Boner'.  You just no this dick copped some serious abuse back in high school and no doubt has serious psycological issues.   I guess i just answered my own question.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2964748 SafelyGraze
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note to boner: please to discuss the important ratio

not debt to gdp .. but kick-can-index: debtSlaveYears for each taxpaying taxpayer

16,000 billion in usdebt / 0.1 billion taxpaying taxpayers =  160,000 usdebt per taxpaying taxpayer

160,000 / 80,000 avgIncomePerTaxpayer = 2 debtSlaveYears for each taxpaying taxpayer

if we can just hold down the avgIncome, the cost of our exports will become competitive again.

we can call the 2 years of debtSlaving "national service".

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:11 | 2964623 LongSoupLine
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Don't forget about uncontrolled crying when discussing love for daddy and country.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:23 | 2964667 docj
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There's an certain school of thought among some in right-of-center circles that says that Boner should basically now say something along the lines of, well, we don't like it but this is evidently what you sheeple voted for so we're just going to get the heck out of the way, vote "present" on everything (which would be a nice parallel of El Presidente's legislative career) and let Choomy/Reid have everything they want - then sit back and watch the US swirl the bowl, which is where we're headed anyway.

Not sure I concur with that, of course - but I do see it's merits as a political partisan.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:30 | 2964695 scatterbrains
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speaking of swirling the bowl.. where my rare earth niggas at ?

 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:29 | 2964691 Cognitive Dissonance
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".....and orange-faced brinkmanship...."

The orange has morphed to a delightful hue reminiscent of yellow green vomit.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:32 | 2964706 jdelano
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wtf was that walk off about?  is he having a heart attack?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:56 | 2964801 sgt_doom
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Truly.

Isn't it amazing how bad things have devolved, when an ultra-loser like Boehner, a clown who couldn't EVEN MAKE IT THROUGH US Navy basic training (the way Geo. W. Bush couldn't even make it, likewise, through USAF enlisted basic training) is prattling on incoherently --- a douchebagger with an enormously limited IQ?

Really, of more interest are those:

SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS

That Brit from Hakluyt who was murdered in China, and the political turmoil and churn there.

What does it have to do with organ harvesting in China, and with global organ harvesting in general?

What is the connection with David Rockefeller and organ harvesting?

What was the connection with Josef Mengele showing up in Chile, and David Rockefeller?

Why does Rockefeller vacation in Chile every year?

What are the connections between Hakluyt, the private British intel firm, and David Rockefeller?  (Anyone ever heard of Frank Wisner, Sr., and Frank Wisner, Jr.?)

Why did Hillary Clinton meet with Richard Mellon Scaife prior to her run for the presidency in 2008? (The very same Richard Mellon Scaife who was behind the "Arkansas Project" to dig up dirt on the Clintons?)

Why did Chris Mellon (DoD/DIA at that time) "leak" Iran's nuclear program back early in the Geo. W. Bush administration?

Simple questions .....

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:06 | 2964604 Joe Davola
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Since we had the "voting present" President's non-budget for the last 4 years, how about actually proposing a budget now that reelection isn't an issue for BHO.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:06 | 2964605 ebworthen
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Where is he?

At least he could be on time and make the serially late President look bad in comparison.

The only thing these clowns will agree on is to punish the middle class and push more to the high and low ends of society.

More money for banks and corporations and the poor they prey upon running EBT and Unemployment bank cards and raking it in with the circle-jerk of handouts to WalMart/ConAgra.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:25 | 2964675 FlyoverCountryS...
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SCREW IT ALL...

The sheeple voted for the rectal reaming that is coming, let them get it...

Shut it down, and let the Obama voters riot when the EBT Cards don't work. Let them get a taste of what it was they ACTUALLY voted for. It's time for some harsh lessons.

Those lessons will hurt a lot less NOW, than they will later, folks.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:06 | 2964606 buzzsaw99
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angry and irrational would be my guess.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:06 | 2964608 Lost Wages
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You're dreaming. Obama and Boehner are going to do some bipartisan 69ing so hot Vivid Video will be offering them a gay porn contract.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:09 | 2964613 slaughterer
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Which tabloid celebrity is Obama and Boehner's gay love child?

 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:13 | 2964630 LongSoupLine
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easy...Krugman.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:13 | 2964632 buzzsaw99
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Not a scratch golfer, that's for sure.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:18 | 2964643 Lost Wages
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Gary Coleman's reanimated zombie.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:08 | 2964612 CrashisOptimistic
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Let me get this straight.

So $600 billion in tax increases plus spending cuts are scheduled for 1 January.  600B / 15.2T (GDP size) is about a 4% hit.

The "successful resolution" of the fiscal cliff will be no tax increases and no spending cuts.  This will leave the deficit at 1.2T and add that to the debt so that October of 2013 we'll have 17T+ in debt.

This would be "successful resolution".  Unsuccessful resolution would be a 600B deficit and 16.7T in debt in Oct 2013, plus a little recession during the year.

What exactly is supposed to be a favorable outcome?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:21 | 2964649 HD
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 SECURITY!  Escort CrashisOptimistic to the DHS for reeducation - he's obviously a terrorist.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:22 | 2964652 helping_friendl...
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I was doing a little research on the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and couldn't find anything that would effect me negatively with the exception of a 2% increase in my payroll deduction for SS tax. 

BIG DEAL!

LET THE FUCKING BUSH RICH PEOPLE TAX CUTS EXPIRE!

Cap. Gains goes from 15% to 20%? BIG DEAL! Fuck you! Pay me!

If those bunch of pussies in Congress can't do their job then we will just fucking VOTE THEM OUT IN TWO YEARS.

I say clean house and get rid of the fucking losers in Congress who can't do their jobs.

Fuck the rich. Let them pay their fucking taxes. They are living off money made long ago by robber barons and slave traders.

TAX THEM.

Those rich fuckers wage the wars now let them pay for it!

 

 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:26 | 2964671 CrashisOptimistic
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You do realize this will raise in 2013 only about 20 Billion dollars?  The bigger numbers you hear about for this category (tax the rich) are the sum of multiple years.  

$20B out of $600B scheduled for 2013.  That's what you get for successful anger at the rich.  A lousy $20B.

What else would you propose, with meaningful numbers on it?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:30 | 2964696 GFKjunior
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You're a fuckin idiot. Voting won't accomplish shit, or did you already forget what happened earlier this week?

 

If anything we should cut taxes as much as possible, for rich, poor I don't give a shit. Higher taxes means bigger government no matter what. GTFO of here.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:58 | 2964809 helping_friendl...
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Spoken like a true old white Republican!

A dying bred. 

Voting kept your guy out of the White House, empowered millions of non-white and working class white voters, put the Congress on notice that we will vote their asses out if they continue to shield the Rockefeller, Rothschild, Jooh bankers and don't do our bidding.

The wealthy spent $1,000,000,000 trying to get that crazy underwear cult fool into the WH and it was awesome watching Karl Rove melt down on election night on Fox.

The Koch Brothers financed a mini media stimulus program and the liberal media thanks them for their money! 

The Republican old white establishment waged war all my life. Now let them pay for it!!!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 13:48 | 2964994 odatruf
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"put the Congress on notice that we will vote their asses out if they"

LOL - I don't think I've read anything this funny in a long, long time.

With all the focus and anger this year, only a handful of the 469 Representative and Senators on the ballot were beaten. Reelection rates are normally 95% plus and in a wipe-out year, is still 85% plus.

Get back to us when more than a handful of seats represent the facade of competitive elections.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 14:56 | 2965411 helping_friendl...
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The Republicons spent the last 4 years dedicated to getting Obama out of office by instilling gridlock on Capitol Hill. I don't think  that strategy is going to bide well for the Republicons if they try that one again.

I don't know if you noticed but, we didn't blame Obama for the gridlock, we re-elected him!

Get it?

If that Jooh boy Cantor wants to stick with the same play book the Republicons will, definitely lose the House in two years. It is common knowledge Cantor is a fartlicking cocksucking faggot, not that there is anything wrong with being gay, which will be confirmed within the next two years.

That's one House seat the 'cons can kiss goodbye. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 15:02 | 2965449 odatruf
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Stupid blind fuck. While Obama won, so did everyone else who already held office, with very few exceptions. Let me use small words: that is my point.

Cantor won this week 60/40. Yeah, you have the same shot beating him as the GOP has of beating Pelosi.

 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 23:46 | 2967083 helping_friendl...
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and your daughter, or granddaughter is f-king a dem......perhaps a colored!!!!!....how awful for you. Get over it gramps..maybe a muslim?......the cohen won't be pleaesd!.......

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:14 | 2966499 CrashisOptimistic
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4 yrs?

You seem to have forgotten that the Democrats had OVERWHELMING majorities in both houses plus the Presidency from 2009 to 2011.  

Why didn't they pass a tax increase on the rich?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 22:39 | 2966965 helping_friendl...
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Healthcare reform was a prority and he wouldn't be in the WH today if he raised taxes in the first term.

Now he has four years without fear of the election cycle. He can't run but, he can get a Democratic majority if 'cons don't get to work.

The 'con majority in the house is led by the queer Eric Cantor.

Cantor is a, fartlicker, disaster! 

He sux cock and opposes gay marriage?

WTF?

He appears to be a "catcher" to me.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 23:04 | 2967013 helping_friendl...
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Always in my mind:

 

Karl Rove on Fox news at 1 a.m., after Fox had declared Obama the VICTOR, insisting Ohio votes "hadn't been counted yet......get those voters back in the precinct.....THE RICH VOTES HAVEN'T BEEN COUNTED!".....wait!.....we need another hour to corrupt the Diebold machines!!!!

I'll cherish that 1/2 hour after the election for the rest of my life!

It, more than, made up for Bush vs. Gore in 2000!

The course of history has branched and changed forever.

punks!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 12:34 | 2964713 ZackAttack3
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You think that small business owners are going to keep all employees when there taxes go up?  They are going to have to fire employees, cut benefits, cut pay, and so forth.  Were not talking about millionaires here.  Were talking about small business owners that have a couple hundred thousand in revenue.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 13:02 | 2964770 helping_friendl...
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Your full of shit!

Small businesses should file as small businesses and there would be no problems. Businesses filing as individuals subjects them to individuals tax rate. Let them file as a corporation and pay the corporate tax rate.

Why are businesses filing as individuals instead of businesses? To pay the individual tax rate instead of the Corporate tax rate! To cheat the tax man. My paycheck gets docked 25% and I am supposed to cry because a small, multi-million dollar business has to pay their fair share? 

The small business argument is ridiculous and a fools argument.

A business should file taxes as a business and not as an individual.

If they make the rich guy tax rate equal to the corporate tax rate the small business burden argument disappears.

Yes?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 13:25 | 2964901 Bob
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Not to mention that only the top 2 fucking % of small businesses would be getting the small tax increase. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 14:05 | 2965007 odatruf
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Dumb ass, there is no way to "file as a small business".  You are either a corporation (or certain S-Corps, etc) or you a pass through entity (sole, LLC, etc.). It's not cheating the tax man, it's following the system as set up.

Fuck sake!

 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 16:16 | 2965581 helping_friendl...
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Well then make the individual tax rate of people making over $250,000 the same as the corporate tax rate and the system would be balanaced!

Yes?

Then businesses would file as Corp. instead of sole, LLC. In fact make the Corporate tax rate 1/10% lower than the over $250,000 individual tax rate then they would file as they should. A business.

Get rid of the $106,000  SS withholding ceiling and make everyone pay SS tax on every nickel they make. That makes SS solvent forever. 

Why argue about obvious flaws which should be corrected for the good of all?

Most people, that I have met, who are self made millionaires are successful because they are honest, decent people who deserve what they have created. I bear no grudges against a man because he is wealthy. 

My issue is with the Dick Cheney, types, who would wage war and kill thousands to make his stock value increase.

The Republicons like to throw that phrase "small business" around when what they really mean is small companies who make a lot of money on gov't contracts. I can gaurantee you the guy I see driving around with a truck and a ladder is not filing gross adjusted income over $250,000. Give me a break! If the yankees need to bump the threshold up to $500,000 on individuals that's ok with me as long as the tax system is fair and doesn't make the middle class pay for the mistakes and wars of the wealthy zionist.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 16:38 | 2965964 odatruf
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Listen, I don't want to be rude or mean to you, but I am simply unable to hide my contempt any longer for people who pretend they know what they are talking about when all they are doing is parroting something they heard someone else say.

Let's just move past what you are saying about tax filings for small businesses.  It is clear you don't understand it and haven't bothered to think about it critically enough to engage you on the topic.

As for SS, is not a typical program / tax system. People pay into it amounts that are connected to what they will get out.  It isn't dollar for dollar and it is progressive in that the return you get decreases as you have earned more over time. But this aspect of the program is what makes it so popular and is why people believe that they earned their benefit and it isn't welfare. And they are mostly right about that.  But, and I am going to try to hold your hand here: get rid of the SS withholding ceiling and you will turn the program into welfare.

Why? Because there is a cap on the benefit payout that is linked to the cap on the tax.  Otherwise, you would have people who earned a lot of money getting enormous SS checks.  Can you imagine the outrage if some people got SS checks of tens of thousands of dollars per month? Even if they paid in enough so that their ROI was the same as everyone else's?

So rather then make the program solvent forever, you will turn it into welfare and doom it within a generation. If you doubt it, consider that the only programs people ever offer up when asked where to cut is welfare and foreign affairs. They are as misguided as you are now.

And as a further piece of advice: anytime you are tempted to write about Jews or anything else related to Israel or Judaism, don't. Just walk away from the keyboard and come back later with a clear mind.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 17:07 | 2966035 helping_friendl...
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And I won't ever hide my contempt for persons like yourself or creeps like Eric Cantor who epitomises the stereotype of his faith.

Cold, greedy, thoughtless creatures wanting the middle class to pay his way while he profits making war on the helpless and sticks the middle class and poor with the invoice.

Who said anything about increasing social security benefits if income cap is removed?

If a person earns over $100,000/year they shouldn't qualify for social security benefits. Even if they paid in all their working lives. 

What kind of selfish greedy bastard are you? You think SS is a retirement plan?

Social Security was designed as a safety net so people who are to old to work would not be destitute, eating out of trash bins and living in the street.

 

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