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Meet Alex - The Real 'Not Lazy Bastard' Greek

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While Mr. Panos has often been used as the poster boy for the Greek people, his shortened premise is - we will keep taking the Europeans money until they no longer want to give it to us. In the meantime, the Greek people have suffered due to the previous largesse of their government and need for a 'reversion' to the mean of their relative wealth. The following brief clip offers some insight (or defense) of who the real man-on-the-street is in Greece. Not the media's interpretation of a lazy, cheating, ungrateful, helpless, corrupt, violent, rude, racist, tax-evading, trouble-making thieving vandal - that lives with his mother; but a scapegoat for all that is wrong in Europe and remains shocked, confused, frustrated, and upset. It's someone's fault, right? Why not Alex?



From the Omikron Project:

Greek crisis? Get the whole picture.


We are a group of regular guys and girls living in a crisis-hit country called Greece.


We got sick of watching the rest of the world get fed inaccurate images of life here today, and wanted to do something about it.


So instead of complaining, we built Omikron Project: a place for ideas, discussion... and ACTION.


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Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:36 | 2966394 GRsilverking
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Opa re malakes! We cares less about debt.. just give us beaches, bitches, coffee, cigarettes & more bitches & go F*** yourselfs! OOOOOPA!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:04 | 2966469 Drachma
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I also like music, philosophy, mathematics, physics, chemistry, geology, electrical engineering, microbiology, virology, poetry, history, painting, building, camping, fishing and hiking. I think I'm forgetting something.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:12 | 2966493 mantrid
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uhmm.. economics?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:14 | 2966501 Drachma
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You got it, human psychology.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 13:38 | 2967816 NewAmericaNow
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Don't forget "psychology" is a Greek Word

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:16 | 2966509 Thecomingcollapse
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Dunno if it's because it's Friday and I'm getting rummy or what... But... Comments are brilliantly funny today! Well done sir

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:17 | 2966653 Stackers
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And Alex expects the government to provide free of charge

A Job

Health care

An Education

A Pension

A Meal

And Alex hates paying for it and cant understand why he cant have his cake and eat it too

or why he has to sleep in this mess of bed he made.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:37 | 2966713 constantine
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Perhaps Stackers, but is this somehow unique to Alex?  Not really.  Just seems like his system melted down first.  You would probably be surprised at how many small businesses there are in Greece.  The last thing that we want to do is lose track of who is benefiting from this system.  Actually, the German taxpayers are probably being fleeced the most but some random young guy or gal in Greece is sure as heck not a beneficiary of this nonsense.  

+ 5 to Tyler for this one

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 04:18 | 2967376 AnAnonymous
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People living in resources rich countries are the beneficiaries of this mess.

They benefit from the largest transfer of wealth ever, stuffing their coffers with the mighty USD in exchange for their resources.

Signed: an American.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 13:33 | 2967802 IBelieveInMagic
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That's what T. Boone Pickens said. The furriners are looting our precious dollars in exchange for their worthless oil and resources.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 13:43 | 2967839 NewAmericaNow
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Your mistaken, I think you mean Bob the American. ObamaCare, Free education, Early retirement, Cheap Consumer goods at maybe Walmart, Lower taxes, more regulation, give me what you have or I'll send a drone bought on credit to bomb your damn oil producing country and then wonder why the terrorists hate his freedom while he strips at the airport for security paid for on credit.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 22:18 | 2969040 Hugh_Jorgan
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"And Alex expects the government to provide free of charge

A Job

Health care

An Education

A Pension

A Meal

And Alex hates paying for it and cant understand why he cant have his cake and eat it too

or why he has to sleep in this mess of bed he made."


The only caveat is that Alex also pays a lot in taxes and expects that the above will all be provided ad infinitum, because Alex was taught jack-squat about economics, government, and history by his crappy government education system. Thus Alex is ignorant of the realities that no government in history has ever been able to sustain services cradle-to-grave for more the a few decades before falling apart. So, yes Alex may not necessarily be a fat, lazy, violent bastard. But he is an ignorant, uninvolved, lemming who has the government that he deserves. Kinda like the rest of Europe and the good ol' US of A!!!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:29 | 2966519 Dr. Engali
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Sexology and drinkology... Both of which are on my agenda tonight.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:13 | 2966646 Miffed Microbio...
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I've already started. Sitting by the warm fire with a wonderful Hot whiskey toddy Mr Miffed made for me. Ahhhh, to escape the world's problems for a little while. It's times like these when I have to agree with men, sex does solve everything! :-)


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:41 | 2966731 Dr. Engali
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Now who would down arrow that?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:23 | 2966827 Miffed Microbio...
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Let me guess....some repressed woman who feels she's "liberated" but in actuality an over educated copious note taker that's jealous of anyone finding joy outside of her definitions. Wow, my drunk brain never fails to amaze me.


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 22:27 | 2966943 Cheesy Bastard
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Down arrow from a woman miffed because she hasn't been muffed? 

(I am referring to definition 7)

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 12:07 | 2967639 JimBowie1958
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The definition of gender feminism continues to be affirmed day to day:

'Feminsim is the deep rooted fear that somewhere in the world there is a man who is enjoying himself.'

Works for me.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:35 | 2966850 Karlus
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A prostie, or an iBanker who just got ripped off by one

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:42 | 2967357 Vigilante
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Greeks are the most 'socialist' minded Latin Americans.

The state has to provide always....or we'll riot.

Nobody ever asks 'who will pay for this?'

A few days ago the Supreme Court declared the latest austerity cuts 'unconstitutional'


According to the Greeks everyone should have a very high standard of living irrespective if a country produces fuck-all.....

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 12:28 | 2967675 Enslavethechild...
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According to Americans, their government should have a very high standard of living and the common folk should accept their enslavement with glee

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 13:46 | 2967850 NewAmericaNow
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lol I didn't know masturbation was classified as sex. Learn something new everyday

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:27 | 2966527 JustObserving
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Evading taxes? Molotov Cocktails?

"At the same time, though, a small elite of wealthy Greek ship owners is fighting to defend its tax-free status -- also, ironically enough, enshrined in the constitution. Meanwhile, other moneyed Greeks, including doctors, lawyers and engineers, continue to systematically avoid taxes. According to a recent study, seven out of 10 self employed Greeks significantly underreport their earnings. Indeed, though the crisis has been raging for five years now, many wealthy Greeks are under no more pressure to pay taxes than they were before.


The study's authors use data from a large Greek bank which uses several factors in addition to income reports to measure a client's creditworthiness. The result: Undeclared income from self-employed Greeks amounted to €28 billion in 2009, more than 10 percent of the country's gross domestic product that year. The state lost €11.2 billion euros in tax revenues as a result."

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:38 | 2966719 Bag Of Meat
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Corruption is a strategic plan imposed by the elites (and their politicians) to keep the status quo. It's a game where everyone has interest in changing nothing. Do your homework sheepy

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 04:23 | 2967379 AnAnonymous
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What elite? Ah, yes the 'american' king class, the middle class.
As reported by the article with its doctors, engineers and lawyers listing.

It is expected that the servant follows in the steps of her masters.

The politician/corporative business class, which is servant to the 'american' middle class only replicate the ways of their masters.

By the way, going against that would anger the master.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:41 | 2966729 constantine
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No doubt, tax evasion is literally part of the culture in Greece, unfortunately.  My father, who was sent to USA from Greece (not speaking English at the time) by his father immediately at the conclusion of WWII constantly complained about the fact that if Greeks would ever get passed trying to get over on other Greeks, the country may actually get somewhere.  I remember how he would complain that they don't even really make a true effort to develop their tourism industry.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 22:49 | 2966988 Oracle of Kypseli
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@ Justobserving

Avoiding taxes is the antidote of taxing the hard working class to buy votes.

If everyone had to pay say, 8% flat tax, noone will cheat and gov. will collect more money. But, no! Rich white succesful men in their fifties are the most hated people on earth by the feminazis and the limousine flaming asshole liberals who send their kids to private schools and expect everyone else to go to the public schools. No vouchers they say. Who live in huge mansions, travel with jets and limos and have a parked hybrid in the driveway for show and expect everyone else to use public transport and grow veggies on their roofs.

Is the world upside down or what? We are looking for inversion or revolution.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 04:25 | 2967380 AnAnonymous
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If everyone had to pay say, 8% flat tax, noone will cheat and gov. will collect more money.

Yeah, yeah, and 'americanism' is the best thing to ever happen to humanity... The song is known.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:52 | 2966600 GRsilverking
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Sure and that's what people don't get. We r the 2nd most educated people in the USA & I am not sure about GR.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:52 | 2966601 GRsilverking
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Sure and that's what people don't get. We r the 2nd most educated people in the USA & I am not sure about GR.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:00 | 2966618 CCanuck
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And long walks on the beach.

Looking for like minded, that can easily touch thier toes, while backing up.


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:21 | 2966822 Dugald
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You missed yotting old chap...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 00:26 | 2967142 Harlequin001
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a hard days' work...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 02:45 | 2967321 condoraki
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Yup, like.. paying your required taxes so that your country doesn't go bankr... oops, too late...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:02 | 2967334 condoraki
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And you also missed finances.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:36 | 2966395 GRsilverking
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Opa re malakes! We cares less about debt.. just give us beaches, bitches, coffee, cigarettes & more bitches & go F*** yourselfs! OOOOOPA!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:39 | 2966404 takeaction
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That's cool.  Great idea you lazy bastards.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:44 | 2966417 Thecomingcollapse
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+1000 That was great!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:42 | 2966411 Thecomingcollapse
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Nope, not Alex's fault unless Alex is a central banker...

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:48 | 2966431 blunderdog
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"Alex: the lazy cheating Greek BASTARD!"

A new Disney movie?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:10 | 2966488 IndicaTive
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Nah, just a sequal to that wedding movie. Cher beats the fuck out of him.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:48 | 2966433 ThirdWorldDude
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Until Alex starts hanging corrupt politicians and bankers, it's all talk - no hockey.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:08 | 2966636 Schmuck Raker
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Oh? How many corrupt politicians and bankers have YOU hung lately, you lazy bastard?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 04:13 | 2967373 ThirdWorldDude
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I see it's all Greek to you! Is that because of your name, your fluoridated water or your miserable school system? 


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:49 | 2966436 obessoligarch
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really cool video that talks about how much  ignorance stereotypical type of information hides.

greeks are nice people......much nicer than most n.europeans (with the exception of danes)

and yes they are the true scapegoat in a crisis that is reality we all know that they are just

the visible part of the iceberg.

                                as of the bitches....greek ones are the hottest in europe!!!


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:52 | 2966444 HANKREARDON

Is there a polite way to say that the Greeks come off as, well, unintelligent?


Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:48 | 2967360 Vigilante
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More like smartasses...with a heavy 'conspiracy' bent...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 17:32 | 2968472 fiddy pence haf...
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it's not a conspiracy if they actually are after you.

Media produces 2 minute hate sessions in their newspapers so that we

don't get even with bankers.

Alex knows that the bankers are out to get him. and that his government is

doing the bankers' bidding. What are ya gonna do?

It's that wacky democracy thing. uhm, might as well play by the rules.

that'll make things betta!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:53 | 2966446 rzero
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Sorry limey, over here in the US few people even know about the european crisis, let alone have a scapegoat for it.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:54 | 2966447 Yen Cross
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 I love Alex's bike. Everyone should have Skittle Bike... YUM YUM

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:25 | 2966684 saints51
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hehe was waiting for his pet to be an unicorn.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:55 | 2966450 guinea
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Greeks need to be more like the Chinese: cunning yet diligent.  You can't be cunning and a lazy ass. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 18:56 | 2966451 GRsilverking
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morons... under most broke Greeks there is a matress full of paper EU or land that can't be tracked by anyone since there is no computer records.They don't live with Mom & Dad cause they're lazy, but because Mom doesn't want to let go of her 40 year old babies if they are not married. WTF is wrong with u all & you can't understand how the Greeks do not care about what you think of them but where they will spend their evenings & holidays. It will change but not at the rate you all think. It will take a decade to adjust to the new normal. My bet is that they will not. Ce la vie jeleous bitches.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:01 | 2966461 Tydown4fun
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All but Katia have fake boobs.  Just saying............

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:09 | 2966481 toothpicker
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I want proof

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:02 | 2966462 THE DORK OF CORK
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Yes but he must prove otherwise in a sea of bank credit.


You can't swim in that depth of Shit.


We don't know who is really productive or not in this world...........


You may have a job (desk flying) and travel to work burning gasoline that could be best used somewhere else

A hobbit with a couple of acres and a push bike may be in net surplus.


Who knows ? - we live in a Europe without national credit so therefore the input output metrics are all screwed up.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:16 | 2966492 Dr. Engali
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Hey Alex... I'll give you a hint..It's the bankers.,,,the Fat,Lazy,Corrupt, Banker Basturds!!! Oh yeah the bankers and your " leaders" who sold you out to them.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:36 | 2966495 Yen Cross
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 Most legends and myths, do have some far flung degree of truth to them...

The Greeks have had millenniums to build their reputation.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:14 | 2966500 NobleSavage
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Quoting Bill Gross : "Greece is the world"!!!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:40 | 2966561 Cheesy Bastard
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Greece is the world is the world that you heard, its got groove its got meaning...

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:47 | 2966583 NotApplicable
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Quoteth the Brother's Gibb.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:58 | 2966613 blunderdog
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You mean that wasn't a Paris Hilton original?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:55 | 2966607 akak
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Greece is the time, is the place, is the motion, Greece is the way they are stealing ...

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:14 | 2966502 Bawneee Fwank
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not related...So it begins,

Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:16 | 2966510 NobleSavage
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I guess it's time for Civil War II.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:18 | 2966659 Schmuck Raker
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Naw. Who'd fight to keep long as they take Texas with 'em.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:27 | 2966691 saints51
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you got a problem with me.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:32 | 2966704 saints51
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I signed it. Figured I get my name twice on the NSA list. One for being a ZH member and the other for this petition.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 12:51 | 2967721 Lednbrass
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If one state goes, others will fall like dominoes. That would go through the South like wildfire and everyone would be happier.

Well, as long as the New Englanders are deported quickly.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 23:05 | 2967017 ForTheWorld
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Any US citizen on ZeroHedge who keeps talking about states rights, Federal Government being too big, and a return to the constitution as it was written, should be signing this, and getting their friends to sign this.

It would at least give the smallest amount of substance to all the rhetoric here (which has been in the increase in the last 6 months - perhaps this is due to the changing crowd here).

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 10:03 | 2967537 WillyGroper
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Reservations at campFEMA confirmed. Signing this will do as much good as contacting your alleged representatives. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:17 | 2966514 mantrid
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We are a group of regular guys and girls living in a crisis-hit country called Greece.

yeah, just regular mindless sheeple ingoring anyone warning about looming disaster

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:25 | 2966524 Ungaro
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It is not the Greeks. People in tropical and subtropical climates tend to be less industrious than those in the north. No need to stash food away for the winter, no need to worry about heating your house. Just chill under a palm tree and eventualy food will fall into your lap. This is not lazyness, per se, but cultural DNA. I see this first hand in the Philippines. Italy is also a good test tube to prove the hypothesis: productive in the north, far less so in the south.

When a socialist, corrupt government is thrown into the mix, you eventually get a crisis, regardless what currency you use to buy your ouzo or grappa or sangria or pálinka or slivovic.

If you have to blame someone, blame the clueless politicians or climate change but please let the hepless Greeks alone. Disclosure: I am not Greek. My handle will give a clue to my nationality.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:26 | 2966526 Yen Cross
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 ALTO !   

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:00 | 2966616 blunderdog
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I wonder if that's why the Southern States are so full of broke-ass good-for-nothings...

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:30 | 2966837 Matt
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Working less is not a problem. Trying to spend as much and have all the things that people who work more have, while working less, is a problem.

Of course, all the countries of the West are ran by, and populated with, a majority that is conditioned to expect never ending compounding annual growth, and for some reason that growth slowed down.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 02:50 | 2967326 caustixoid
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I've been hearing this 'theory' about warm places producing laziness and cold places producing wealth since I was a kid (but strangely never see any academic references!).  Not sure if you've  heard "correlation doesn't equal causation".  It's like vomiting and concluding the apple you just ate must have been 'bad' -- it's logical but it's not true.  Today colder places are rich and powerful and warm places are poor and weak, ergo: weather is destiny.

Well, let me take a few shots at this "theory":   I've been to a lot of poor countries and frankly the average peasant in the 3rd world works way harder than the average westerner.  Even Filipinos or Indians or whatever warm-weather immigrants you want to name work harder on average than the native-born westerner.   Seen any immigrant beggars in big western cities?  From what I've seen (admittedly anecdotal) they're homegrown.

You could look up "colonization".  You could investigate "Banana Republic", or the IMF or the World Bank and see the amazing wealth-transfer system that exists from poor to rich countries.

Or you could look at empirical evidence: did the Greeks conquer half the Ancient World because a mini-Ice Age was bearing down on them?  Did they get lazy because their land warmed up?  Were the Mayans lazy?  The Khmers (Angkor Wat)?  Rome?  the Phoenicians?  SINGAPORE TODAY?!? 

You might want to read "Guns, Germs and Steel" to gain a little perspective.    Or maybe just keeping making up shit on the fly -- you do it well.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 04:01 | 2967366 Vigilante
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You may want to peruse this book

IQ and the Wealth of Nations by Lynn and Vanhanen.

It correlates with the warm country theory.

Countries in the tropics that are succesful are run by 'northerners'

Singapore is chinese is is Australia.

Blacks ,mestizos and 'brown' people have lower IQ than whitey...hence their lack of success.

Incidentally northeast Asias have higher than whites...Japan,Korea,China..

You can ignore the Liberals always do anyway....

Greece is in a transition zone...between the idiots and the 'master race' it's a mixed bag of excellence and third world stupidity.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 12:25 | 2967663 augustus caesar
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@ Vigilante

Good post,

but hardly fair to compare the average IQ of the US ( coming in at 98 according to the book )

to homogenous and nearly homogenous populations like Japan and Hong Kong ( 105 and 107 respectively ).

Remember the US is being further weighted down with each passing year of increasingly lax immigration standards.



Sat, 11/10/2012 - 13:29 | 2967791 blunderdog
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Another issue to consider: IQ *primarily* measures the relative facility a person has with symbol-manipulation.  Symbol manipulation is a very important part of many aspects of modern life, but it has nothing at all to do with HAPPINESS.

If "intelligence" is redefined to mean something like, "one's relative ability to achieve happiness based on their inherent gifts," there's a strong case to be made for the folks who are terrible at symbol-manipulation but live fulfilled and pleasurable lives.

In other words: maybe they're actually the SMARTER ones, despite their lower IQs, because they recognize that only a limited chunk of the human condition revolves around something like money.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 12:32 | 2967687 Matt
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Define "lazy".

If you mean hours worked weekly on an average annual basis, then historically:

fishers and hunter / gatherers in tropical regions worked about 20 hours per week

european serfs worked about 24 hours per week

chinese rice farmers average 60 hours per week

from Malcom Gladwell's Outliers.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:13 | 2967339 Lore
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"If you have to blame someone, blame...climate change..."

No thanks. Big government LOVES "global warming."  Thanks to Agenda 21, we the people are transformed into evildoers to be carbon-taxed for our sins.  It's yet another con that should piss off every seeker of truth on ZH.

BTW happy weekend everybody

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:25 | 2966525 AldoHux_IV
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Focusing on solely upon sensationalizing an "Alex" is like creating a story about a drug addict without mentioning the drug dealer or that perhaps the laws/lawmakers [in]directly encourage predatory drug dealers to push the shit around schools where our heroine may reside.

In the end, if you need media to tell you how to think, act, or feel towards a group of people you never met or how the world works in general then it is you that is a lazy, cheating, ungrateful, helpless, corrupt, violent, rude, racist, tax-evading, trouble-making thieving vandal-- I'm sure you don't live with your mother because she may find you despicable.

Best of luck to the Greeks and Europeans-- we're not too far behind how everything is devolving in the US and we're certainly going to need more assertive problem solving networks because our government is too busy looking good than doing good.

Fuck the media, fuck the central banks, fuck the government puppets, and fuck apathy.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:42 | 2966568 Ungaro
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Amen, brother! This Hellenic mess was not created by Alex but by the facelss eurocrats and clueless bureaucrats to secure export markets for their products. Let them buy their Audis, Benzes, VWs, Saabs, Volvos -- we'll loan them the money. Our economy will thrive, companies will profit, people will pay taxes and life will be good. When the Greeks need more money, we'll just print some more. What could go wrong?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:17 | 2966656 DaveA
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I call this the W.T. Grant strategy. Give a store credit card to every warm body that darkens your door, and watch the sales and profits pile up. Bonuses for everyone! Until, of course, the customers stop making payments.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:23 | 2966678 Ungaro
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Exactly, but with a slight twist. No store credit cards, but have the bank give them all Visa, MasterCard or whatever. When they stop paying, the banks are on the hook, not the store. The banks, of course, are "systemically important", or TBTF so the government (taxpayers) will bail them out. No problem, party on dudes!

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:27 | 2966528 Kastorsky
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lazy, cheating, thiving bastard is Shalom - the Jew.

in reality

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:36 | 2966540 Cheesy Bastard
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The cheating Greek bastard is Petraus.  By the way, Alex is indeed a lazy bastard, or at least that's what my cousin Feta-Cheesy bastard always says. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:50 | 2966587 Ungaro
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Gen. David Petraeus is a good guy who fell on his sword so he would not have to testify before Congress about the Benghazi mess, a testimony which would have revealed who the real lying, cheating bastard really is, IMHO BHO.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:59 | 2966615 Cheesy Bastard
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So then he's a good guy because he is covering up for the bad guy?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:20 | 2966667 Ungaro
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Think about what his choices were. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If you cannot win, the only option is to stop playing the game or change the rules. He could not change the rules.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:42 | 2966867 bank guy in Brussels
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Will Petraeus live very long?

His situation reminds me of:

Who murdered CIA Chief William Colby?

« ... Saturday, April 27, 1996.  William Colby, a former director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, was alone at his weekend house across from Cobb Island, Maryland, 60 miles south of Washington, D.C. ... he was found dead in the water nine days later, it was said that he had gone out paddling his canoe at nightfall and drowned.  ...  I knew William Colby. And I didn’t believe that for one second. »

- Zalin Grant

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 10:41 | 2967570 WillyGroper
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Read a very long article about this. Nothing added up. There's a much bigger picture here than any fiscal cliff. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:45 | 2966574 SgtShaftoe
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It's the government structure that rewards corruption.  It's not the people, and don't give me that "well they voted for that" bullshit.    Politicians are the problem in addition to a large amount of momentum.  It's terribly tragic.  Study well, this infection will spread west soon enough.   A government grows in influence and breadth from inception.  Then at some unmarked moment, it crosses the event horizon where growth cannot be reversed, and takes on a life of it's own.  That event horizon has been crossed by every western government.  

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:58 | 2966614 Shizzmoney
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Right, the choices given to the "people" are about the same as the choices given to a cow when he walks into the slaughterhaus (this was wonderfully depicted by williambonzai7).

Greece is done.  Spain is done.  And Italy is next. 

It's a good thing they voted Draghi in, so they can preserve their democra.......oh.....wait.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:54 | 2966590 Bob
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Great video.

Bernays, the medium and message. 

Banksters are raping these people and we know it.  Of course, Americans are murdering people worldwide and we know that too . . . yet never really think about it somehow. 

Nonetheless, it seems to me that our consciences must align with the Greek people in this gruesomely evolving financial war, rather than the neoliberal alternative.  If there's any hope left for us here in America, at least.  Even the neoliberal Liberty Movement claims to be animated by that spirit. 

The Greeks. gotta. say. No. 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:58 | 2966612 Ungaro
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FYI, the Liberty Movement is not liberal, or neoliberal but conservative and constitutionalist.

Eventually, all debtors will have to repudiate ALL externally held debt and let the chips fall where they may. Austerity does not lead to prosperity. Productivity and prudent fiscal policies do but only in the absence of government leeching off the life blood of the economy to hand it over to the banksters.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:03 | 2966627 akak
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FYI, the Liberty Movement is not liberal, or neoliberal but conservative and constitutionalist.

I have to take issue with your definition, Ungaro.

As currently defined, so-called "conservatives" are just as anti-liberty as so-called contemporary "liberals" --- both factions are equally statist, and both equally are responsible for the loss of liberty in the USA and elsewhere.  The real Liberty Movement is libertarian, and is the enemy of almost everything that so-called "conservatives" in the USA today represent and stand for, most of all the intrusive and agressive police/warfare state.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:15 | 2966650 Ungaro
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Yes, the Liberty Movement is more libertarian than the traditional "conservatives". The Occupy Movement is far more liberal, bordering on communistic. However, if you look closely at the Liberty Movement, you will find lots of conservative principles. I want to contrast this "conservative" label against the neocons and RINOs, like Mitt Romney.

The Liberty Movement is about getting the government out of my bedroom, my pocket and my life. Labels are important because how we define things is how we tend to behave towards them. At the same time, labels can be very dangerous if applied arbitrarily and subjectively, e.g.: "terrorist". 

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:05 | 2966786 Bob
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When I use the term "neoliberal," this is what I mean:

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:21 | 2967346 Lore
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I think people are skimming your posts without digesting them.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 09:28 | 2967503 css1971
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You guys just plonk the word liberal down where ever you like and redefine it as you see fit to suit your current political dogma. You no longer have any idea what liberal or conservative mean. I personally think it's because your politics are literally one dimensional.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 11:17 | 2967590 hawk nation
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What state will be the first to leave the union and setup a libertarian government?

Can you imagine thecapital inflow to the state along with people inflow if this occured

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 19:49 | 2968774 Matt
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Isn't Texas the only one that has the ability to unilaterally leave?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 19:56 | 2966609 Shizzmoney
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My Big Fat Greek Propaganda

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:05 | 2966632 JustObserving
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Instead of making videos, hang a few of your lying, thieving oligarchs who do not pay a cent in taxes.  May i suggest that you start with George Economou?

He has stolen hundreds of millions from American shareholders and then had the gall to say: 

"Americans are the dumbest investors around"

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 09:41 | 2967508 buzzsaw99
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The list of those maggots is so long I just marvel at how they aren't all hanging from lamp posts on every street corner.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:44 | 2966737 jackinrichmond
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sometimes people will create distractions (like greece) to take your eye off the ball...

greece was a willing dupe. 

follow the money to find the guilty party(s).

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 20:55 | 2966758 Killer the Buzzard
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You like-a-the-juice?   Hey Gus... she like-a-the juice.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 03:40 | 2967356 Harbanger
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Aw shucks, I loved "my littal killa". he's a justa lika his daddy.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:36 | 2966831 honestann
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Alex is not at fault.  The predators are at fault.

I mean, the...

predators DBA government
predators DBA central banks
predators DBA mega-corporations

And to a lesser extent, the unionized government workers throughout the world, who receive absurdly high salaries and retirement benefits, then strike, protest and throw firebombs when anyone suggests they receive only 50% more compensation than private workers.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:39 | 2966857 Matt
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It is true, the government, banks and corporations forced Alex to get a credit card and max it out buying stuff. They coerced him into getting a mortgage to buy a condo for 12 times his annual income. He had no choice, no free will, and has no responsibility at all for his actions.

So, if all of this is true, why doesn't Alex default on his loans? Because if he does, he will not be able to borrow any more, and he is unable to stop borrowing money. Therefore, Alex is doomed.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 19:54 | 2971031 honestann
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Good comment, if only because I can't tell exactly where you're drawing the line of sarcasm in your rant.

As someone who has always lived very frugally, and has never borrowed a dime, never had a mortgage, and never had a credit card balance... I certainly can agree that many people are irresponsible in their [spending] behavior.  However, the predators-DBA-government didn't bail Alex out, they bailed out the predators-DBA-banksters.  If ALL had been left to fail naturally, we'd have no gripe.  That the predators-DBA-megabanksters now have a permanent undeserved right to bailouts (and unlimited 0% loans) completely changes everything.

Oh, plus the hyper-mega-super-scam at the heart of the entire system... the ability to create unlimited fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt-laced toilet paper out of thin air at zero cost to them.  If banks could ONLY lend funds that their customers had deposited in [known-term] savings accounts, then banks would be legit businesses.  THEY ARE NOT, and thus THEY and their paid politician-predator-puppets are absolutely to blame.

Also, the hyper-fiat-fake-credit-driven economy grossly drives up prices, which means they have put Alex in a position of paying vastly more for products than he would have in a natural economy (where nobody can create money to lend out of thin air).


But sure, Alex could have been smarter and more frugal.  But the real, serious, fundamental fault lies squarely on the shoulders of:

predators DBA government
predators DBA corporations
predators DBA central banksters


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:53 | 2966889 toomanyfakecons...
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"...unionized government workers throughout the world, who receive absurdly high salaries and retirement benefits, then strike, protest and throw firebombs when anyone suggests they receive only 50% more compensation than private workers."


I thought that only happened in places like Wisconsin. Public sector unions should be outlawed.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 21:40 | 2966860 Majere
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I'll take Greek crisis for 1000 Alex


Fri, 11/09/2012 - 22:22 | 2966939 sunnyside
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No.....Stop the presses, Europe has turned the corner!!!!


Fucking amazing.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 01:12 | 2967218 Theos
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It's satire... relax.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 23:36 | 2967070 Itch
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C'mon Alex, calm down, no one said you were a bastard,

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 02:26 | 2967306 news printer
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Occupy Wall Street buy-up debt to abolish it

A group of campaigners linked to the Occupy Wall Street movement is buying-up distressed loans for pennies in the pound and cancelling them to "liberate debtors at random".

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 02:33 | 2967311 ItsDanger
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My cousin in Greece pays less taxes, works less and certainly gets more time on the beach than me.  They've had it too good there for a long time.  Dont feel too sorry for them.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 04:30 | 2967383 lunar
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Who's view should this be - surely not a Greek's man

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 05:27 | 2967396 news printer
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German economy should develop reform program for France

France's economy is stuck. Now Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble makes an unusual suggestion: German experts have to design reforms for Paris.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 06:24 | 2967407 emsolý
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Same Alex as in Die Toten Hosen: "Hier kommt Alex" ?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 09:07 | 2967490 Gohn Galt
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Since when did not paying taxes become a bad thing?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 09:55 | 2967532 Gamma735
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Do the Greek ladies shave their armpits?  The answer to that question is important for me to use in calculating my response from this video.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 11:35 | 2967603 northerngirl
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What a bunch of hypocrites!  We don't want our government to provide everything for us just the things we tell you to provide.  A bunch of looters upset because there is not much left to loot.  Don't feel alone Greece, the United States of America is with you! 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 19:51 | 2968779 Herdee
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The Greek Government and its politicians remind me of a character from an old MAD magazine.He was a 10 year old boy and on the front of his baseball cap was an expression, "professional liar".

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 20:49 | 2968875 morpheus000
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if he was smart he would start his own printing press, IRS and stock exchange and govt and rip everyone off legit..superrich means you rob the population

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