On Germany's Desire To See America "On Its Knees", And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama"

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When you strip all the politically correct rhetoric, and the carefully sculpted facade is taken off for the night, this is what remains. Via Germany's most popular financial newspaper Spiegel:

"There is hardly an issue about which Germans as so united as they are by their desire to see America on its knees. It unites both the left and the right. Wherever they look, they see decay, a lack of culture and ignorance. "A perverse mixture of irresponsibility, greed, and religious zealotry".  

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With a bit of luck, the specter across the Atlantic might even take care of itself. It can't be ruled out.

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When they are not shooting each other or being fried by dangling power lines then the Americans might simply pop. Two out of every three US citizens are overweight, or even obese! Every child in Germany knows the numbers.

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For the über-watchful among us, the signs of the downfall are obvious. One must only take a look at the condition of the streets (every fourth bridge is crumbling!), or the entirely outdated power grid, to come to the conclusion that this country has its future behind it. A nation that has its utility lines hanging from poles in the street, instead of burying them in an orderly fashion underground, cannot really be taken seriously.

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For as long as I can remember, America has been on the decline. Already in the 1970s, the country was doomed, and that was before people like Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush came to power.

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The childish excitement over Obama, that once again took hold over Germans during this election -- fully 93 percent of the country would have voted for him in this election -- is the flip side of this desire for America's demise. That the Germans, of all people, should see themselves in a black civil rights attorney from Chicago can only be explained by the fact that they see him as the opposite of what they consider to be normal Americans.

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Superpowers don't disappear over the course of years. It takes decades, if not centuries. As such, the verdict might not arrive for awhile yet. The prophets of doom can continue to hope.

And it gets better - from the official caption of the associated Spiegel photo:

Let the transatlatnic flame wars begin, because the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Full article:

Explaining Germany's Infantile Crush on Obama

A Commentary by Jan Fleischhauer

German schadenfreude knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to the United States. The country loves to feel superior to a superpower like America. Yet Germany also harbors a childish infatuation with Obama -- one which has little political grounding. The reasons are psychological.

It's too bad that Mitt Romney didn't win. If the Republicans had won, we could finally have known for sure that our suspicion of America's imminent demise is correct. "Four more years," translated into the German viewpoint means little more than a "four-year reprieve."

For the über-watchful among us, the signs of the downfall are obvious. One must only take a look at the condition of the streets (every fourth bridge is crumbling!), or the entirely outdated power grid, to come to the conclusion that this country has its future behind it. A nation that has its utility lines hanging from poles in the street, instead of burying them in an orderly fashion underground, cannot really be taken seriously.

With a bit of luck, the specter across the Atlantic might even take care of itself. It can't be ruled out. When they are not shooting each other or being fried by dangling power lines then the Americans might simply pop. Two out of every three US citizens are overweight, or even obese! Every child in Germany knows the numbers.

There is hardly an issue about which Germans as so united as they are by their desire to see America on its knees. It unites both the left and the right. Wherever they look, they see decay, a lack of culture and ignorance. "A perverse mixture of irresponsibility, greed, and religious zealotry," as my adversary, columnist Jacob Augstein, furiously argued on Monday.

A Blessing to Live in Germany

What a blessing it is, one must conclude, to live in Germany, a country where the highways are regularly repaired and the washing machines use so little water that one could water the entire Sahara with what is left over. In which citizens' initiatives are formed against McDonald's, and two-bit crime dramas are considered the pinnacle of TV entertainment. If the utility poles here were to snap like toothpicks, then it would be the fault of some natural catastrophe, the likes of which would make a hurricane seem like a gentle breeze.

I don't want to sound like a smart aleck, but does anyone remember when, in December 2005, a surprisingly strong winter storm left 250,000 people in the area surrounding Münster without power for days? Münster and its environs do not want to rule the world. But still, it was strange to see the same experts on TV, who two years prior, during a large power outage on the east coast of the US, had given their reasons for why something like that could never happen in Germany.

The criticism of America has always been a bit infantile. One is familiar with the theory from psychoanalysis, when people talk about transference, or when suppressed feelings or emotions are overcome by projecting them onto others. It may work for a while, improving one's feeling of self-worth by devaluing an imagined adversary. But it always falls short. Which is why the ritual must be constantly carried out anew.

For as long as I can remember, America has been on the decline. Already in the 1970s, the country was doomed, and that was before people like Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush came to power. In the meantime, Americans brought communism to its knees, rang in the age of the Internet and revolutionized capitalism several times.

The reality is that a quarter of global wealth is still created in the United States. They still have at their command the largest military power on the globe, and will continue to do so, despite all of the talk of a multi-polar world.

The Infatuation with Obama

Above all, the United States remains the largest chosen destination of millions of people in the world. If they had the choice of where they could live, the majority oddly enough would not choose the German DIN standard for happiness, but life in New York or California, where the potholes are as big as gravel pits. That may make people here want to light as many candles as possible, to pray for the downfall to finally come.

The childish excitement over Obama, that once again took hold over Germans during this election -- fully 93 percent of the country would have voted for him in this election -- is the flip side of this desire for America's demise. That the Germans, of all people, should see themselves in a black civil rights attorney from Chicago can only be explained by the fact that they see him as the opposite of what they consider to be normal Americans.

Since Obama spoke to the world in front of the Victory Column in Berlin during his first presidential campaign in the summer of 2008, he has found a firm place in the hearts of German citizens. They will always be grateful to him for this honor. That's why they forgive him for keeping Guantanamo open and for sending out drones like other people would send postcards.

In the daily Süddeutsche Zeitung, Andrian Kreye correctly pointed out that for Europe, life with Republican presidents is usually easier, because the US then takes the obligations of its alliances seriously.

Obama has no interest in Europe, and all of his attention goes to Asia. If this president calls the German chancellor's office, it is only to try to sweet talk her into finally implementing euro-bonds, so Wall Street can sleep again. But that is one of those facts that is better to suppress.

Superpowers don't disappear over the course of years. It takes decades, if not centuries. As such, the verdict might not arrive for awhile yet. The prophets of doom can continue to hope.

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Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:25 | 2968139 AgShaman
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All lovers of politics share a few things in common

They feel good about getting penned into a moniker that makes them feel part of the group

Democrat...Republican.....the nametags for zombies unwilling to view their "Stockholm Syndrome"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM&feature=related

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 21:11 | 2968911 DanDaley
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Right.  Eric Hoffer nailed it in 1951 in The True Believer on the nature of mass movements.  Short book, total classic.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 17:41 | 2968497 knukles
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The Republicans are no more lunatic raving religious fanatics than Germans are imperial, genocidal, warmongering, barbarian, drunken perverts. 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 02:04 | 2969277 prains
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one in the same i would think

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 09:37 | 2969576 Escapeclaws
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The reason Europeans focus on "religious fanatacism" is that these so-called fanatics are Christian and Republican at the same time. They believe in taking from the poor and giving to the rich.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:32 | 2967976 Divine Wind
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Yea, but we gotz yallz gold.

Now, Kiss Da Ring.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:33 | 2967983 Jolly.Roger
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Except we don't. 

James Turks guesswork has nothing to do with reality. 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:39 | 2968002 Divine Wind
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Shhhhh. That's the big joke.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:33 | 2967981 ssp2s
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What exactly is inconsistent about wanting the demise of America and wanting Obama to be president?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 17:25 | 2968431 falak pema
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your "neo-conism" is sprouting out of your ears. If the question only imposes one issue as reply then its circular. 

Inverted totalitarianism and monetary fascism, is the legacy of the US neo-cons imposed on the world they have built over thirty + years. Its a recipe for disaster of untold magnitudes on global scale.

That the world wants out from it is a natural and healthy trend; and ZH is not a blogsite that would contradict that thesis, unlike a lot of forum members who post here, drowning in their nostalgia and "embedded" hubris.

For the world Obama is a coloured person rising to the top of a racialist society where the neo-cons have increased the prejudiced divide in the last decades with their "war of civilizations". 

They don't realize he is a stooge of the banksta cabal 'cos they don't understand the reality of US neo-feudalism. But you do and you know that Obama is a surrogate of those very neo-cons who built the banking world that controls the whole political class. SO yes, the demise of THAT America is not a bad thing; the 1% strangle hold. 

Now why don't you come out and agree with that. It would clarify a lot of issues in this mud slinging game.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:13 | 2968568 machineh
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What you don't get is that a 'coloured person' is a demographically perfect stooge for neocons.

Democrats, Europeans, and Nobel Prize committee members love Obama, as he maintains the Guantanamo prison camp, orders drone assassinations, and even murders US citizens.

Meanwhile they narcissistically congratulate themselves on their advanced stage of personal enlightenment for accepting him regardless of race (while totally ignoring his rapacious actions).

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:30 | 2968601 falak pema
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I agree we say the same thing. They take him at face value, they believe in his earlier rhetoric. They don't see him in the context of the inner dynamics of a US neocon police state run by the Oligarchs. They don't see him being set up as a Oligarchical political "Uncle Tom". That's very clear. He still appears as MLK's honest son, hostage of WS. 

What they see of USA is GWB and Romney as the bad guys, as WS and GS. They perceive Obammy as the good guy who inherited GWB's crap, not realising that he aided and abetted the scam afterwards, as did Mutti, and as does Draghi.

Europe does not understand the size and complexity of the NEo con financial scam on private banking side; the derivatives pile, just like main stream America! 

When the storm hits core Europe, not just Athens, the blinkers will come off. But it will be too late. The storm will be upon us. 

Unless a miracle occurs; not the Mayan type.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:33 | 2967984 AG BCN
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Germans, no personality, no sense of humour, dull,.......

Another myth about Germany is that it is all nice and clean and modern, in reality most of the country looks like shit.  

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:36 | 2967992 Laretes
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Care to elaborate? Personal experience or judging from a distance?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:47 | 2968031 Bunga Bunga
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Please be kind, maybe he has some lasting damage from a collapsing bridge.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:10 | 2968096 AG BCN
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not a bridge, it was communist apartment block. 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 17:52 | 2968524 Gavrikon
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I live here, and as more and more third world parasites are allowed in here, the more trash one finds on the streets, the more graffiti one sees, and the more crime occurs.  It is still one of the most beautiful places to live I have ever inhabited.  But providing all the parasites with the social advantages Germans used to provide only for themselves, an industrious and intelligent people, is backrupting the country, and has raised taxes to approximately 2/3 of what I earn.  That includes income, social, and sales taxes and fees.

If Germany doesn't pull it's collective head out of its collective Arsch, and stop worrying about being call the "N" Word, it will fare no better in the future than the multi-culti cesspool, the USSA.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 21:39 | 2968968 knukles
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Yeah, sorta like big American cities like Detroit, etc.

Must be "cultural"

(Now that's not yet been branded politically incorrect, motherfuckers)

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:45 | 2968017 Azannoth
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I can pretty much second that from my experience living here, except for the country "looking like shit" it's not but you pay for it with 75% taxes on all income, than again it looked x10 better 20 years ago before all those dirty 3rd world immigrants where "invited in"

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 17:55 | 2968529 Gavrikon
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Shit, sorry, pal.  I didn't notice your excellent post before I wrote mine.  1000 up arrows!  Germany was a far better place in the 80s when I first got here.  Fuck the goddamned EU!

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:15 | 2968061 Cult_of_Reason
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It depends on which part of the country, South vs. North, and East vs. West.

The German autobahns are fantastic and free. I used to drive many times from Frankfurt to Würzburg and multiple times to Zürich often going at ~200-250 km/hr (~125-150 mph). 

Bayern (State of Bavaria) is indeed "all nice and clean and modern" if you avoid big cities for example like München (some areas of München look more like a third world Middle Eastern country [only without the potholes]).

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 05:43 | 2969370 piliage
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"The German autobahns are fantastic and free"

I'm not trying to be a dick, but honestly, this is seriously one of my pet peeves. The roads in Germany are not FREE. Neither is the healthcare, nor the universities.

You are paying 66% personal taxes (and 18% VAT), NOTHING is free!. You are paying through the nose for it in fact.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 06:45 | 2969397 Lord Koos
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But you're not going bankrupt when the wife gets cancer.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 21:37 | 2968962 schadenfreude
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You hit the nail on the haed with stupid prejudices.....perfect example of brainwashed dumbfuck.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 17:12 | 2970616 AG BCN
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on the "haed" ?

idiot. 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 04:08 | 2969341 vic and blood
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Only a fat ugly American could make such a broad generalization.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:36 | 2967987 lolmao500
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Germany is just as fucked as America if it continues to have euro shills and banksters whores as politicians.

Who's on the hook for Greece, Portugal and Spain? Germany.

What happens when these countries go kaboom? Ah yes, the German banks go kaboom too.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:47 | 2968367 Bay of Pigs
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Deutsche Bank, another poster child for fraud and corruption.

They even have Blythe Masters onboard now. LOL.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:42 | 2967990 JustObserving
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Germans are better informed about America than most Americans:

"According to a survey conducted by TNS Emnid, one of the largest polling institutes in Germany, nearly 90 percent of Germans do not believe the U.S. government explanation of what happened on September 11, 2001.

The poll was conducted for the German magazine World of the Miracles.

In addition to 89.5% not buying the official 9/11 story, the poll found that 73.7% of surveyed Germans believe that the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy and nearly 80% believe the CIA conducts covert operations on German soil."

Now if they could learn the truth about their gold at the NY Fed.

http://www.infowars.com/nearly-90-percent-of-germans-do-not-believe-offi...

 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:49 | 2968012 akak
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And yet they STILL can't bring themselves to use personal deodorant, much less bathe on any regular basis.

I recommend that no visitors to Germany ride the buses or subways, especially at times of peak usage, unless they have a strong tolerance for barnyard odors.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:52 | 2968040 Bunga Bunga
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That's the price for not wasting natural ressources on every place for ice cold air conditioning. A little odor is nothing against a hurricane.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:54 | 2968045 FeralSerf
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Some of the Germans claim that it's the Poles and other eastern Europeans you are smelling.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:04 | 2968075 akak
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Hmmmmm ... maybe like their claims that the Poles were the aggressors in 1939 as well?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:24 | 2968130 Tirpitz
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And -- weren't they??

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:32 | 2968155 akak
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If that was not sarcasm, please allow me to direct you to a website more appropriate to your apparent biases:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:46 | 2968214 Tirpitz
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An excellent link, comrade. But to learn more about the events leading to the repossession of German lands, after the Poles having let several well-meant ultimata expire, you may want to read a bit deeper into such:

Bloody Sunday of Bromberg: Why Hitler Invaded Poland:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=72468

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:56 | 2968232 akak
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Yeah, and Hitler was REALLY just a terribly misunderstood statesman who only had peace in his heart and tolerance for all?

Get the fuck out of here with your vile revisionist, pro-Nazi garbage.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:28 | 2968310 Lore
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When you cannot ask questions and look at alternate, reasoned interpretations of a historical event...

THEN we no longer live in a free country.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:34 | 2968322 akak
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You make an unwarranted assumption and a totally illogical argument.

I will not condone the propagation of vicious lies as some sort of ostensible "alternate interpretation of history".  And if you demand that I do, then I demand that you accept the theory that Leprechauns are responsible for every major historical event of the last thousand years.

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 00:49 | 2971701 Lore
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You twist my words. All I submit is that no truth should be exempt from examination and cross-examination.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:35 | 2968162 Azannoth
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The Poles where planning to invade Germany for over a decade prior to 1939, the polish generals which where in charge than wanted to create an "false flag" event to trigger this war but I guess they never had the balls to follow through. Germany was ruined after WW1 so the Poles "saw their chance" at "getting even" with the Germans they always hated but as always throughout their history the dumb Poles ended up shooting them selves in the foot instead.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:42 | 2968197 akak
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That is the most outrageous, and intellectually and morally insulting, ball of revisionist bullshit I have ever read.

Nice implicitly pro-Nazi sentiments, though.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:46 | 2968212 Cycling Fish
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Zis iz my last territorial demand..

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:55 | 2968224 Azannoth
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And how do you know? Did you attend a polish school and where forced to learn all it's history? Like I Was!

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:59 | 2968242 akak
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One does not have to attend a Polish school (for all that that matters to the subject at hand) to know something of history, particularly recent history, and to recognize historical facts from specious and insulting revisionist nonsense.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:10 | 2968264 Azannoth
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"One does not have to attend a Polish school" so you imply that what's in polish history school books officially sanctioned by the polish government is a complete lie? The average pole knew about Katyn being done by the Russians not Germans loong before it became "offical" history

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:14 | 2968282 akak
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Huh?

I don't even know what you are trying to say or argue here.

And I don't have a clue what is or is not taught in Polish school history books, nor is it relevant to our discussion.  The truth is the truth regardless of who does or does not teach it.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:30 | 2968321 Lore
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Your truth doesn't have to be my truth.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:37 | 2968345 akak
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Damn, what is this, Neo-Nazi Crackpot Day on ZeroHedge?

I cannot believe that anyone is downarrowing me here for stating the unarguable truth.  Must be just more trolls sent into this forum in the attempt to discredit it, much like the virulent antisemites.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:41 | 2969132 dogbreath
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Kake.  Are you off your meds again?

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