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On Germany's Desire To See America "On Its Knees", And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama"

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When you strip all the politically correct rhetoric, and the carefully sculpted facade is taken off for the night, this is what remains. Via Germany's most popular financial newspaper Spiegel:

"There is hardly an issue about which Germans as so united as they are by their desire to see America on its knees. It unites both the left and the right. Wherever they look, they see decay, a lack of culture and ignorance. "A perverse mixture of irresponsibility, greed, and religious zealotry".  

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With a bit of luck, the specter across the Atlantic might even take care of itself. It can't be ruled out.

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When they are not shooting each other or being fried by dangling power lines then the Americans might simply pop. Two out of every three US citizens are overweight, or even obese! Every child in Germany knows the numbers.

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For the über-watchful among us, the signs of the downfall are obvious. One must only take a look at the condition of the streets (every fourth bridge is crumbling!), or the entirely outdated power grid, to come to the conclusion that this country has its future behind it. A nation that has its utility lines hanging from poles in the street, instead of burying them in an orderly fashion underground, cannot really be taken seriously.

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For as long as I can remember, America has been on the decline. Already in the 1970s, the country was doomed, and that was before people like Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush came to power.

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The childish excitement over Obama, that once again took hold over Germans during this election -- fully 93 percent of the country would have voted for him in this election -- is the flip side of this desire for America's demise. That the Germans, of all people, should see themselves in a black civil rights attorney from Chicago can only be explained by the fact that they see him as the opposite of what they consider to be normal Americans.

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Superpowers don't disappear over the course of years. It takes decades, if not centuries. As such, the verdict might not arrive for awhile yet. The prophets of doom can continue to hope.

And it gets better - from the official caption of the associated Spiegel photo:

Let the transatlatnic flame wars begin, because the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Full article:

Explaining Germany's Infantile Crush on Obama

A Commentary by Jan Fleischhauer

German schadenfreude knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to the United States. The country loves to feel superior to a superpower like America. Yet Germany also harbors a childish infatuation with Obama -- one which has little political grounding. The reasons are psychological.

It's too bad that Mitt Romney didn't win. If the Republicans had won, we could finally have known for sure that our suspicion of America's imminent demise is correct. "Four more years," translated into the German viewpoint means little more than a "four-year reprieve."

For the über-watchful among us, the signs of the downfall are obvious. One must only take a look at the condition of the streets (every fourth bridge is crumbling!), or the entirely outdated power grid, to come to the conclusion that this country has its future behind it. A nation that has its utility lines hanging from poles in the street, instead of burying them in an orderly fashion underground, cannot really be taken seriously.

With a bit of luck, the specter across the Atlantic might even take care of itself. It can't be ruled out. When they are not shooting each other or being fried by dangling power lines then the Americans might simply pop. Two out of every three US citizens are overweight, or even obese! Every child in Germany knows the numbers.

There is hardly an issue about which Germans as so united as they are by their desire to see America on its knees. It unites both the left and the right. Wherever they look, they see decay, a lack of culture and ignorance. "A perverse mixture of irresponsibility, greed, and religious zealotry," as my adversary, columnist Jacob Augstein, furiously argued on Monday.

A Blessing to Live in Germany

What a blessing it is, one must conclude, to live in Germany, a country where the highways are regularly repaired and the washing machines use so little water that one could water the entire Sahara with what is left over. In which citizens' initiatives are formed against McDonald's, and two-bit crime dramas are considered the pinnacle of TV entertainment. If the utility poles here were to snap like toothpicks, then it would be the fault of some natural catastrophe, the likes of which would make a hurricane seem like a gentle breeze.

I don't want to sound like a smart aleck, but does anyone remember when, in December 2005, a surprisingly strong winter storm left 250,000 people in the area surrounding Münster without power for days? Münster and its environs do not want to rule the world. But still, it was strange to see the same experts on TV, who two years prior, during a large power outage on the east coast of the US, had given their reasons for why something like that could never happen in Germany.

The criticism of America has always been a bit infantile. One is familiar with the theory from psychoanalysis, when people talk about transference, or when suppressed feelings or emotions are overcome by projecting them onto others. It may work for a while, improving one's feeling of self-worth by devaluing an imagined adversary. But it always falls short. Which is why the ritual must be constantly carried out anew.

For as long as I can remember, America has been on the decline. Already in the 1970s, the country was doomed, and that was before people like Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush came to power. In the meantime, Americans brought communism to its knees, rang in the age of the Internet and revolutionized capitalism several times.

The reality is that a quarter of global wealth is still created in the United States. They still have at their command the largest military power on the globe, and will continue to do so, despite all of the talk of a multi-polar world.

The Infatuation with Obama

Above all, the United States remains the largest chosen destination of millions of people in the world. If they had the choice of where they could live, the majority oddly enough would not choose the German DIN standard for happiness, but life in New York or California, where the potholes are as big as gravel pits. That may make people here want to light as many candles as possible, to pray for the downfall to finally come.

The childish excitement over Obama, that once again took hold over Germans during this election -- fully 93 percent of the country would have voted for him in this election -- is the flip side of this desire for America's demise. That the Germans, of all people, should see themselves in a black civil rights attorney from Chicago can only be explained by the fact that they see him as the opposite of what they consider to be normal Americans.

Since Obama spoke to the world in front of the Victory Column in Berlin during his first presidential campaign in the summer of 2008, he has found a firm place in the hearts of German citizens. They will always be grateful to him for this honor. That's why they forgive him for keeping Guantanamo open and for sending out drones like other people would send postcards.

In the daily Süddeutsche Zeitung, Andrian Kreye correctly pointed out that for Europe, life with Republican presidents is usually easier, because the US then takes the obligations of its alliances seriously.

Obama has no interest in Europe, and all of his attention goes to Asia. If this president calls the German chancellor's office, it is only to try to sweet talk her into finally implementing euro-bonds, so Wall Street can sleep again. But that is one of those facts that is better to suppress.

Superpowers don't disappear over the course of years. It takes decades, if not centuries. As such, the verdict might not arrive for awhile yet. The prophets of doom can continue to hope.

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Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:43 | 2968009 buzzsaw99
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Damn, and I just bought a compete set of Wolfgang Puck cookware. (Austrian, German, same same to me.;)

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:56 | 2968049 Bunga Bunga
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To all Americans: immediatly trash your Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Porsche, Mercedes. Those cars are shit anyway.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:04 | 2968077 Wolferl
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Of course, since Austrians ARE Germans.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:55 | 2968230 mrks
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From personal experience, I'd say most Austrians would beg to differ...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:01 | 2968249 akak
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Bah --- they're just like the Canadians, who are nothing but Americans with an identity crisis.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 19:16 | 2968716 Henry Hub
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Canadians identify themselves as not being American.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 19:21 | 2968726 akak
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They do try their desperate best to cling to that 0.1% difference that separates them from their southern brothers, don't they?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 06:58 | 2969406 Lord Koos
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The average Canadian household is in the black for around $45k.  That's a big difference right there.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:51 | 2968011 Questan1913
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"There is hardly an issue about which Germans as so united as they are by their desire to see America on its knees. It unites both the left and the right. Wherever they look, they see decay, a lack of culture and ignorance. "A perverse mixture of irresponsibility, greed, and religious zealotry".

 

"The childish excitement over Obama, that once again took hold over Germans during this election -- fully 93 percent of the country would have voted for him in this election -- is the flip side of this desire for America's demise. That the Germans, of all people, should see themselves in a black civil rights attorney from Chicago can only be explained by the fact that they see him as the opposite of what they consider to be normal Americans"

This article is confused and contradictory.  Those two paragraphs cnacel one another out and are mutually exclusive.  If the assertion that the Germans want to see America on its knees is true, then 93 percent of Germans "would vote for Obama"  must mean that they think Obamma will run America into the ground, fullfilling their desire.   It can't mean that they would vote for Obama to run Germany can it?  Maybe I'm missing something here.

"Religious Zealotry"??  Where?  That must be a misprint.  Statist zealotry abounds.  Marxist zealotry is definitely ascending.  Neo-pagan zealotry is rampant. 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:07 | 2968262 MsCreant
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The article is claiming that it is a seeming contradiction. They are buying an Obama image, not reality. He seems tall, thin, sophisticated, multi-racial, multi-cultural. Bush seemed like a narrow, illiterate, retard.

And yes, we look like religious zealots to me...nationalist ones too..blind nationalism, really creepy eerie stuff.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:21 | 2968296 DosZap
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And yes, we look like religious zealots to me

How so?, we have freedom of, and freedom from.Basically we are a house divided ideologically, and a far right, and far left.

Surprisingly 6.4 million SO called evangelical Christians voted for Obama, personally I doubt they are either evangelical or Christian.

85% of Muslims voted for O, and blacks at least 85%+,Hispanics by a HUGE margin,single white females,and many more married white females also.

We need to separate into two camps, and part amicably,with freedom to move to & from as our idea's values, and mores change.

This would prevent another Civil War,coming at break neck speed the way I see it........and one wanted,I fear by the PTB.

Blue states to blue, and Red states to red. Would solve a ton of problems.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:38 | 2968630 Old Europe Avan...
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Are you kidding? You have a 2 party system, the polls are always about 50:50 and each candidate always tries to win the middle. There is no practical difference between whom ever you are allowed to vote between. It's a f***ing big show about nothing.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:59 | 2968674 Stuntgirl
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Europeans in general can't wrap their minds around the concept of creationism being taught at school as an equally valid "theory" to evolution.

I'm not judging, just trying to provide insight on one of many reasons why yes, indeed, most europeans think Americans look like religious zealots.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 21:23 | 2968933 Acet
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Actually we do get taught creationism and other Religious subjects at school in Europe as part of High-School classes with names like "Religion and Moral". In our High-School Biology classes we study amongst others the Theory of Evolution.

It's the part were Americans get taught creationism as part of Science classes that to European eyes projects the image of a nation of devolving religious nutcases.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 21:52 | 2968993 schadenfreude
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Europeans simply keep religion and politics seperated.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 22:17 | 2969037 Cathartes Aura
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head asplode time:  George P. Bush, Dubya's nephew, getting ready for the future,

The 36-year-old said in September his goal was to run for office and acknowledged that he had his eyes on several statewide offices.

Raised in Florida, Bush decided to settle in Texas, home to his uncle and his grandfather, former President George H.W. Bush. He runs a consulting firm and has been active in Republican Party outreach to college students. He's also the co-founder of Hispanic Republicans of Texas, a group that seeks to elect Hispanic candidates.

Ana Navarro, who was the national Hispanic co-chairwoman for John McCain when he ran for president in 2008, tweeted her enthusiasm Thursday.

"Wrote check for my friend, (at)georgepbush newly formed exploratory committee for office in TX. Young, pragmatic, Hispanic, just what GOP needs," Navarro's tweet read.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/09/george-p-bush-nephew-former-p...

fox news intentionally chosen link.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:42 | 2968013 orangegeek
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It's not just Germany, it's all of Europe - one mass of land full of socialists.

 

And rather than look in the mirror, socialists are trained to continue to criticize others with anything they can find or make up.

 

And Barry is a lame duck President who has no control over the house and no ability to compromise.

 

Don't look now Germany, isn't that France emptying your bank accounts?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:51 | 2968035 Azannoth
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Germany's people are like a constantly beaten dog who accepted it's fate and the best it can do about getting another wallop is to wag it's tail and pretend the master is doing it for a justifiable "reason"

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 19:21 | 2968725 Henry Hub
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In that case the German people sound a lot like Americans

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:43 | 2968015 tmosley
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Yes, clearly not wasting money by burying powerlines is a sign of decay.  Nevermind that we never did that.  Socialist nonsense.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:40 | 2968635 Old Europe Avan...
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Well from what I heared, the folks without power (after Sandy) would have been pretty happy about some decent infrastructure. Just saying.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:43 | 2968016 M.B. Drapier
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A nation that has its utility lines hanging from poles in the street, instead of burying them in an orderly fashion underground, cannot really be taken seriously.

I wouldn't want to defend the state of US infrastructure as a whole, but it's worth pointing out that important parts of the US are significantly more prone to earthquakes than Germany...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:45 | 2968023 dolph9
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Right but who is going to keep leasing the Bimmers?  The Chinese?

Yeah, good luck.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:51 | 2968038 Winston Churchill
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The German's are far from alone in this wish.

It's actually hard to name a country in the world whose

populace is not thinking this same way.Torture ,and indiscriminate

murder from the air tend to engender such sentiments.

The hubris of empire gone to insanity.With Obummer playing Nero

in the tragi-comedy.

Its so very sad to be watching this first hand.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:17 | 2968115 Tirpitz
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Now, let's google "who rules America," and take a closer look at them German brothers under siege.

The Morgenthau plan, the war against the entire white race, is on.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:43 | 2968202 YuropeanImbecille
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Sadly the zionist-satanists have the upper hand here, as the whites continue to serve the darker subhumans via wealth transfer.

 

 

 

[/narc]

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 14:59 | 2968060 kentmills
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Schadenfreude bitchez!

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:01 | 2968066 Atomizer
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Help!! Our tax base is eroding. We have our butterfly nets out in hopes to snatch another foreign revenue generating stool pigeon. After we convince them over ivory towers riches, contractual law will prohibit any further business association under their field. After we put the butterfly out of business, we take over complete business operations.

 

Wash, rinse and repeat

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:04 | 2968074 blunderdog
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I suspect it's very difficult for a life-long resident of ANY European country to have a good *intuitive* grasp of the sort of multi-polar chaos that is the USA.  We have very little in common with the Euro states HISTORICALLY, so what seems so "obvious" in a much smaller and more homogeneous society just doesn't map very well onto the US.

I'd say trying to imagine some kind of amalgamation of a Euro-state and INDIA would be a useful exercise.

I certainly can't blame anyone on Earth for hating us for our "leaders."  We do really manage to elect the worst of our fantasies every. single. time...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:44 | 2968643 Old Europe Avan...
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Part of it comes form the fact that the US is always sold as a melting pot. But from person experience I would say it isn't. Ethnicities stick together and seldomely mix.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:04 | 2968076 JR
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Spiegel’s definition of America, obviously unrepresentative of the German people, is like Time Magazine’s definition of Germany.

IOW, it’s a waste of paper – 100 percent wrong, 100 percent insulting. Newsweek’s gone; and it’s only a matter of time before Time magazine will be gone.

Der Spiegel (The Mirror)is Germany’s Time magazine, mimicking it in everything, one of the Establishment’s favorite press organs, with a history of German-guilt-bloating news.

In fact, it mimics Time magazine in everything, even to becoming the Jewish intellectuals’ favorite press organ, and, as some have said, it has a history as “the relentless defamer of all postwar patriots…and veteran soldiers and officials with orchestrated hysteria campaigns to demand they be ‘brought to justice,' even at age 90 or more.”

Even currently its website runs a picture of Hitler and the swastika.

It is well to remember that Germany is not a free country.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 21:16 | 2971230 supermaxedout
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Well said JR. I have the same opinion from the Spiegel. Its a dirty piece of mind pollution.

 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:08 | 2968089 falak pema
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all this mutual hate slinging is like an effete first world drowning in its own secretions.

I guess both sides of the pond we need shock therapy and this capitalist cataclysm will crystallise things for decades.

What war removed over five years of mayhem and ten years of reconstruction we now suffer in twenty thirty years of attrition.

Maybe that is what decadence is all about, dying by a thousand cuts. 

God that makes me hungry! 

May Obama now show his true face to the Universe; but after I've eaten my dinner! 

 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:09 | 2968095 Tirpitz
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"They will always be grateful to him for this honor. That's why they forgive him for keeping Guantanamo open and for sending out drones like other people would send postcards."

Maybe it has become a bit lonely on the high throne of Auschwitz -- and now the emperor of Guantanamo took his rightful place just on her side...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 18:48 | 2968651 Old Europe Avan...
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What honor? This idiot was using Berlin as a stage to fake some foreign experience/look statesman like. Sure there was a number of spectators there, but then there are more people attending Love Parade (techno music street parade) at the very same place.

People don't forgive him for keeping Guantanamo open, but with Romney as the only other valid option, what do you expect? Romney was ment to lose and that he did well.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:11 | 2968098 Muppet
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Germans may find us troubled but at least our porno doesn't end with the guy pissing on someones face.    Well okay, not most of our porno.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:20 | 2968122 blunderdog
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Point granted, but we never produced an American version of Marlene Dietrich here, either, so that's a wash.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:28 | 2968145 Tirpitz
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Billary Glinton won't qualify?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:26 | 2968307 MsCreant
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Mae West?

More so, Madonna?

Lady GaGa?

For the time, relative to the cultures...??

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 14:36 | 2970277 blunderdog
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I was struck by the combination of *intelligence* and sluttiness.  We've been pretty good with the slutty bit, but not so well with the same intimidation factor of 'ho who would beat you at chess.

Madonna's probably the best American approximation "in real life," but she never really played it up as part of her commercial appeal.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:28 | 2968144 noses
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I always thought that's what your Homeland SS was created for. And if they are too dumb to piss they can always use their military-grade pepper spray.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:00 | 2968246 Nussi34
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What no pissing? Who would want to watch such lame pornos?

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 16:12 | 2968271 akak
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I thought Germans were more into the scheisse thing.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:15 | 2968108 Neoisolationist
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Just saw this one and thought I would share.

 

http://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/9109/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SocialismIsNotTheAnswer+%28Socialism+is+not+the+Answer%29

 

Seems like a treason charge against Obama was sent to the director of the FBI on 8 November. The person who submitted the complaint is a retired naval officer. Probably just a rabbit for the military. Submission of this is unprecedented, and interesting.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 19:31 | 2968744 Henry Hub
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Don't tell me someone is going dig up this old, dead whore and try to fuck her again. Come on man!

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:16 | 2968112 stant
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in the long run we are all dead mutter frecken

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:20 | 2968121 max2205
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Stuff youre shitty BMW's up you're collective asses please

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:21 | 2968126 kevinearick
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Ohio & Germany

SO, my stupid, lazy, conniving, a-hole family in Ohio and Germany f-ed everyone again. Surprise, surprise.

If you don't want to listen, at least don't argue.

If you want to listen, you will learn to employ the empire's weight against itself, as an individual. You cannot escape its gravity as a group. You employ explicit democracy implicitly. D & R is a tag team, with all the rules made in its favor. As a couple, you take turns being the focus of its crucifiction.

I don't have to know who or where you are to crush you, if you belong to any type of group.

Get the Friday addition of the WSJ. Underline the relavant passages for the next 6 months. 6 months from now, go back and see how you did. If you want stupid, reach out for a journalist.

I'll start you out: "There are probably 18 to 20 people in the [US] who have the fundamemal skills..." " The devices targetted by Stuxnet, called programmable logic controllers..."

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:25 | 2968136 Motorhead
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What, are they only now pissed off that they are missing their gold?  The joke's on you, Deutschland.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 15:25 | 2968140 noses
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All it takes is a loony blogger in "Germany's most popular financial newspaper"' (which it is not, that would bet the Handelsblatt) to get the the fat and hypocritical religious cracknuts with atomic weapons who are terrorizing the entire world with their political assasinations using rc toys foaming at the mouth. Where's my roflcoptor? All these comments just proved that troll (the only thing worse than Fleischhauer is that sexually frustrated dumbo-bitch Sibylle Berg - but she's Swiss) to be correct. Quite a success, guys, congratulations!

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