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If The Greek Elections Were Held Today

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Last week's largely symbolic vote in which the Greek bailout-addicted parliament passed, by the tiniest of margins, the latest request for just one more monetary fix promising that this time it will, pinky swear, get its house in order (and maybe even collect some taxes, because all those previous promises were just rehearsals) succeeded in one thing: the coalition government from this summer's elections, crumbling well ahead of time. Which means the time for yet another parliamentary vote is fast approaching. So if a vote were held today, who would be the most represented parties in the Greek parliament? The answer, according to the latest KAPA poll, is the following:

  • Syriza - anti-bailout, anti-austerity party, one which is convinced Greece has all the leverage in European negotiations, and one which is usually best associated with the Grexit: 23.1%, up from 20.7%
  • New Democracy - current ruling party: 20.6%, down from 23.6%
  • Golden Dawn - aka "neo-nazis": 10.4%, from 7.5% in June
  • PASOK - socialists; former leaders: 7.5%
  • Independent Greeks: 6.4%
  • Communists: 5.7%
  • Democratics Left: 4.6%

In other words, at this rate, when the next Greek early election takes places in a few months, the winner will almost certainly be the party that will make Germany's covert goal - to get Greece out of the Eurozone - a Greek decision, thereby washing Merkel's hands, while leading to scenes such as the following at every local beer hall...

Source: Reuters and Bloomberg

 

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Sat, 11/10/2012 - 22:52 | 2969079 ShortTheUS
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I do Nazi this ending well...

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:43 | 2969203 Mark Noonan
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Greek Nazis?  What are they going to conquer?  Macedonia?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:01 | 2969222 knukles
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Cypress

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:34 | 2969257 flacon
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Cyprus or Cypress? One is a country the other is a tree.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:54 | 2969272 knukles
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Opps!

Thanks for the catch... was thinking of Cypress Point .... as in golf ...
Narrow minds, some of us....

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 09:00 | 2969494 GetZeeGold
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What....they're not having another election today in Greece? What the hell gives?

 

Surely they're having another austerity vote....or anouther bailout....or at least something?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 13:11 | 2970076 nodhannum
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"or at least something...another strike...yeah, that's the trick!  Ooopah!

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 19:22 | 2970941 ambrosiac
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Elections, shmelections.  As if Greece invented democracy or something.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 07:20 | 2969417 SanOvaBeach
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Another self-proclaimed English teacher.  If your so smart and shi tice cream, go find another blog, asshole.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 09:38 | 2969581 cahadjis
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No, there's lots of us:

 

"If you're" not "If your"

"Shi tice cream" = "Shit ice-cream" with hyphen

 

Maybe you're the one who should find another blog?

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 00:35 | 2971677 Zero Govt
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good to know as Govt wrecks every country in the West we've got each others backs ..well with the spell-checker anyways

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:34 | 2969223 Michaelwiseguy
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Alex Jones Caller Ron Paul Revenge Voters For Obama 10/09/2012

http://www.myspace.com/video/michaelwiseguy/alex-jones-caller-ron-paul-revenge-vote-for-obama/109079927

Anyone can re-upload this video on Youtube, my account was terminated.

 

From previous WSJ article;

Greece's anti-bailout leftist Syriza party would win if elections were held today, while ultranationalists Golden Dawn would become the third-largest party in parliament, a poll showed Friday.

Figures WSJ would get this backwords, right not left. Who owns the WSJ?

This article is about the Greek right-wing extremist group. For film of 1930, see Golden Dawn (film). For historical organization of the late 19th century, see Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

Golden Dawn (Greek: ????? ????, Chrysi Avgi, Greek pronunciation: [xri?si av??i])[note 1] is a right-wing extremist[8] political organization in Greece. It is led by Nikolaos Michaloliakos and has grown exponentially since its inception to a widely known Greek political party with nationwide support.

Scholars and media describe it as neo-Nazi[7][9] and fascist[10] although the group rejects these labels.

The party ran a campaign during the Greek national elections of 2012 based on concerns for unemployment, austerity and the economy, as well as virulent anti-immigration rhetoric, which gained a large increase in support from the Greek electorate.[16] It received seven percent of the popular vote, enough for the party to enter the Hellenic Parliament for the first time with 21 seats.[17] Following a second election in June, this was reduced slightly to 18 seats.

Update yourself here and beware the bias of the writers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)

The party states its logo is a traditional Greek meander, not a Nazi symbol.

Meanders are common decorative elements in Greek and Roman art. In ancient Greece they appear in many architectural friezes, and in bands on the pottery of ancient Greece from the Geometric Period onwards. The design is common to the present-day in classicizing architecture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander_(art)

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 07:48 | 2969431 Doug
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Stupid is as stupid does.  Gotta be careful what you wish for.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 09:28 | 2969556 Navymugsy
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The bottoms of their shirts read "core (kernel) New York". I wonder what that's about? I thought these guys were only in Greece?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 14:27 | 2970256 fiddy pence haf...
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I think the gun metaphor is the part of the gun which strikes the bullet, so "strike force."

and they've got offices in Asstoria. apparently near a good restaurant, the fat idiots.

 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 22:55 | 2969081 Temporalist
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Maybe these guys will help pay down the debt:

 

CCTV: Axe Wielding Robbers Carry out Daytime Motorbike Raid in Brent Cross Shopping Centre London

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izw1lnm2yyU

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 00:41 | 2971688 Zero Govt
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f'ing hell ...cheeky boys ..none looked over 18 

they'll get banged-up of course for robbing ¬£1,000 in jewellery, bankers robbing ¬£billions of depositors money, not a squeek, even the FSC regulator wrote the banks are "clean ..nothing to see here" 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:00 | 2969088 Atomizer
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Nothing has changed. Just a crown hovers over the perpetual fraud.

 

Financial "Crisis" in Greece

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:09 | 2969098 Gamma735
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Now sure as the sun will cross the sky
The lying's over
Gone, like the tears that used to tide me over

You're leaving now
It's in your eyes
There's no disguising it
It really comes as no surprise
To find that you planned it all along

 

Asia - Only time will tell.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZD1MEgnaU

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:03 | 2969099 otto skorzeny
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what is the Greek obsession with men's asses? also-their shirts say "Greek Isles Gyros-Don't Ask What's In the Sauce"

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:10 | 2969235 knukles
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You don't know?  Seriously?
Here, bend over and let me show ya'

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:12 | 2969104 Too Big 2
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It's almost funny that the leaders and citizens of our USA do not see that Greece, Spain, etc are our future.  Everyone is only concerned about making sure they get theirs and it's the job of the politicians they vote for to give them assurance that they will fight for them. 

Wake the fuck up already!   

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:04 | 2969107 otto skorzeny
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why- when we have shit like Phil Jackson possibly coming back to coach the Lakers and white-girl sodomizer Kobe Bryant?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 03:54 | 2969334 Boeing Boy
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Wake the fuck up and do what?  Ron Paul has said it in the last few days.  You have already gone over the cliff.  best thing you can do is educate your kids and prepare and then prepare again.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 09:57 | 2969627 SmallerGovNow2
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They don't see it because they think if they are the one's in charge of the same system it will suddenly be "different" this time...

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:15 | 2969106 midtowng
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Nazis versus communists. How could that not have a happy ending.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:12 | 2969237 prains
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all it needs is the baby oil

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:12 | 2969238 knukles
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Oh the joys of the Siege of Stalingrad!
Millions rejoiced singing the praises of Comrade Joe.

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:25 | 2969114 tickhound
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If the Greek elections were held today nobody would care just like they didn't yesterday. 

Greece ain't goin' anywhere outside the Eurozone, people. 

When the ship goes down, they're gonna be in it. 

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:39 | 2969131 NumNutt
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Greek Nazis..........hmmm I just don't see them taking over the world....do they even have Greek tanks?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 14:23 | 2970246 fiddy pence haf...
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only the best...German tanks

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 14:33 | 2970270 blabam
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They recently bought some more M1 Abrams. Greece's military spending is the highest of all EU nations (relative to GDP).

Sat, 11/10/2012 - 23:41 | 2969133 DaveA
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When a country is broke, every vote is symbolic. Democracy becomes louder as it becomes more impotent, like Hitler in Downfall furiously ordering around battalions that no longer exist.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:22 | 2969181 The Gooch
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They were held on Tuesday.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:33 | 2969194 q99x2
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Don't let the Germans get your gold Golden Dawn. We are not allowed in the US to have a party that will restore law and order but we have ObamaCare, EBT, subprime student financing, subprime auto financing, SSI, Section 8, ObamaPhones, extended unemployment and in general bailouts for our corporations, banks and generally everyone and everything. So, we don't need no stinking law and order anyhow. In fact law and order would destroy the parasite I mean paradise we live in.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:50 | 2969210 Bicycle Repairman
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Who funds Golden Dawn?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:13 | 2969239 prains
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Dick Cheney

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:20 | 2969247 knukles
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The Young Arab Boy's Education Fund, which is supported by The American Proctocologist Association in Partnership with the Sir Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter Memorial Lost Children's Bed and Breakfast Shelter Society in association with North American Man Boy Love Association and the PETA sponsored Richard Geere Mad Gerbil Ride.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 14:25 | 2970252 fiddy pence haf...
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that's why they're golden dawn, not fiat dawn.

The gold just better be in Greece. If it's in NY, Gd will have to leave their offices in Astoria

and visit the Fed.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:38 | 2969197 Cman5000
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This is getting good meanwhile in Portugal - Thousands of Portuguese soldiers protest budget cuts. Thousands of Portuguese soldiers marched Saturday in Lisbon to protest cuts announced in next year's budget, with some calling for the measures to be tested in the constitutional court.

Dressed in civilian clothing, they marched silently behind banners calling for respect for the military and "national sovereignty". Media estimates put the numbers at around 5,000.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 00:46 | 2969205 Mark Noonan
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So, it was like their entire army, huh?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 04:47 | 2969350 Peterus
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Portugal government, your doint it wrong!

Pamper your army in times on crysis, so you have an iron fist ready when the time comes. Even third rate dictator and despot knows this, how such a sophisticated tyranny - even part of UE - can't grasp basics?

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:07 | 2969233 Seer
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If they were smart they'd totally disband their govt and then say "what govt? no one here to collect from!"

I've hypothesized that this is the basic scheme of the Fed, to act as the "Fall Guy" and take all debt down with it.  US govt could then say "the Fed was independent, no one here to collect from!"  But this would mean that there's been some meaningful plan rather than the history-proven way of just muddling along until things collapse.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 01:23 | 2969248 knukles
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Munis.
Just you wait until the Federalies has run out of Treasuries and MBS and they start to buy 100% of the municipal bond market as well. 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 03:04 | 2969305 Non Passaran
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Good reminder thanks.
I was thinking if I should short munis. Probably not.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 08:53 | 2969485 DCCynic
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They are already buying munis.  Have been for a year or so.  

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 07:47 | 2969430 css1971
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No need to worrry about that. The FED can make good on every one of those promises. The creditors will get everything they deserve.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 03:22 | 2969311 peter4805
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Actually, I believe the winner of a Greek election, if it were held today, would be the party or parties most convenient for TPTB. Election fraud isn't just for banana republics any more.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 05:53 | 2969372 Wolferl
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Sorry, Greece IS a banana republic. Has ever been.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 07:42 | 2969426 LMAO
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"Actually, I believe the winner of a Greek election, if it were held today, would be the party"

in 2 nd. place at 21.7% of the vote which isn't even listed here or accounted for.

Useless

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 04:06 | 2969339 AnAnonymous
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Same stuff as usual: the 'american' voters (aka the 'american' middle class) elect their politician servants to implement the proclaimed platform.

When, in reality, only selective points are to be implemented, the others serving as cover for the 'american' middle class to push up their best interests.

So the winning greek party is told to be for a greek exit. If ever elected, suddenly, it might be discovered that they were not that much for a greek exit, the greek 'american' middle class using that telling to cover up for some other actions.

Duplicity is a core tenet in anything 'american'.
Every 'american' situation has to be viewed with this point in mind.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 08:23 | 2969361 virgilcaine
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Greece is ahead without a bloated Military!... Old men in wool uniforms.. yeh we got that.

Thousands of Portuguese soldiers protest budget cuts

http://www.france24.com/en/20121110-thousands-portuguese-soldiers-protes...

 

Now For the good ol US does the Govt run the Military or does the Military Complex run the govt...?? Trillions go to it each Yr and  it "Grows" in size each year. With the 'for profit' mercenary groups operating worldwide.. we have a problem.

 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 10:02 | 2969639 SmallerGovNow2
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"Trillions go to it each Yr "

Round about 800 billion but agree with your premise...

 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 08:21 | 2969454 Peter Pan
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No Greek election will produce a winner until there is a real debt write off, because no government will be able to produce any change in a nation that is worse than broke.

In any case, I would be surprised if Greece even has the funds to print another lot of ballot papers.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 08:37 | 2969471 JamesBond
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  • Golden Dawn - aka "neo-nazis":10.4%,from 7.5% in June
  • PASOK - socialists; former leaders:7.5%
  • Independent Greeks:6.4%
  • Communists:5.7%
  • Democratics Left:4.6%

====

 

They are all the fucking same thing

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 10:52 | 2969486 Area Man
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Those guys on the picture look like pissing on the floor, while watching their flag.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 09:00 | 2969497 adr
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I just wish the USA shared power based on the vote from the election. It would pretty much assure nothing would ever get done, and no laws would pass.

We could actually live our lives without having to worry about a couple hundred idiots in Washington screwing us over.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 10:20 | 2969684 SmoothCoolSmoke
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Whoever would win, their first question to the Banksters will be "So, what ya got for me?"   And the Banksters will just smile......

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 11:07 | 2969783 Dre4dwolf
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The banks wont let Greece out of the euro / Wont let a default happen

1) They are not done looting the country of its last treasures, they already stole some islands, all the art, all the historical buildings in all the wars, now they are trying to steal the peoples labor and put them into bondage, PROBLEM greeks dont work hard, especially for free, no one in greece will work for less than 15 Euro an hour and if they do they are gona be spitting in your food.

2) They can't let greece out of the Euro because it would instantly recover and GDP would SKYROCKET, showing the rest of the euro-zone that unified currency does not work.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 11:30 | 2969834 XXL66
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Based on 1012 votes... what does it say...  nothing.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 13:22 | 2970104 Joebloinvestor
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Greece, the lamprey eel of the EU.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 15:37 | 2970388 Joebloinvestor
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I bet if you ask any Greek, they would blame the EU for all their shit.

Greece, the lamprey eel of the EU.

An election is a joke and an installed technocrat a bigger one.

Greece should be treated as the charity case they are and the EU would be better off.

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