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Ron Paul: A New Beginning

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From Ron Paul

Ron Paul: A New Beginning

America is over $16 trillion in debt. The “official” unemployment rate still hovers around 8%.

Our federal government claims the right to spy on American citizens, indefinitely detain them, and even assassinate them without trial.

Domestic drones fly over the country for civilian surveillance.

Twelve million fewer Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, yet political pundits scratch their heads.

It’s not hard to see why, though.

To go along with endorsing a never-ending policy of bailouts, “stimulus packages,” and foreign military adventurism, the establishment of neither major party questions the assaults on Americans’ liberties I’ve named above.

As my campaign showed, the American people are fed up. Many realized heading into Tuesday that regardless of who won the presidential election, the status quo would be the real victor.

GOP leadership is now questioning why they didn’t perform better.

They’re looking at demographic changes in the United States and implying minorities can only be brought into the party by loudly advocating for abandoning what little remains of their limited government platform and endorsing more statist policies.

My presidential campaign proved that standing for freedom brings people together.

Liberty is popular – regardless of race, religion, or creed.

As long as the GOP establishment continues to not only reject the liberty message, but actively drive away the young, diverse coalition that supports those principles, it will see results similar to Tuesday’s outcome.

A renewed respect for liberty is the only way forward for the Republican Party and for our country.

I urge all my Republican colleagues to join the liberty movement in fighting for a brighter future.

 

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Mon, 11/12/2012 - 03:00 | 2971843 Pareto
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At first I thought you might be kidding, being a ZHer, sarcasm is common and welcome.  Then I realized, "nope,its official, the writer is a pinhead."  The Revolution has never been about Ron Paul.  Its about ideas.  Its about returning the country to solvency, restoring confiscated liberties, invoking sound money and reducing the scope of government.  But you just see Paul as an old man because you are indifferent.  And you are indifferent because you don't know what you are talking about.  And you don't know what you are talking about because you're too lazy to think about the issues critically and independently.  So you just make shit up which really only exposes your ignorance.  if you were a stock, I'd short sell you to zero. 

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 04:06 | 2971871 honestann
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You are correct that people need to get out of the "follow the leader" behavior, but to give Ron Paul that much crap is just unfair.  I'm sure he's done more to wake up people than both of us combined, by orders of magnitude.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 18:15 | 2970788 Joey9139122
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RP all day err day

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 18:50 | 2970866 El_Puerco
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RON PAUL!...Hey!...Where are you?!...

 

:P

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 19:06 | 2970898 dscott8186
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Whose liberty Mr. Paul?  You make the same vapid assumption that everyone's liberty is the same.  Until you distinguish whose liberty you can not free anyone. Creating another political party or movement is merely insuring the liberty of the elites who run this country for their own selfish gain.  You are becoming a useful idiot, don't be that person.

If 12 million fewer people vote in 2012 than in 2008, especially 9 to 10 million fewer for Obama, representation has increased not decreased.  Stop accepting the false dichotomy of R vs D.  The 3rd choice is not necessarily voting for another party but not voting at all.  Why?  Because the elites have control of the process by selecting those who would be voted for in the first place.  They do it by various and sundry means from Gloria Allred to the MSM.  

The GOP did not fail entirely but rather did not succeed enough.  

 

 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 20:26 | 2971108 AynRandFan
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Please explain how someone else's liberty is different from mine if we are all subject to the same laws.

While you're at it, I'd sure like to know how representation is increased by less people voting.

I'd ask more questions, but I can't make sense of the rest.

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 16:29 | 2985467 dscott8186
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I see you have a unhealthy lack of cynicism about the world and its slogans.

Liberty is defined by those who live it based upon their own world view. E.g.  If a serial killer is prevented from killing at their leisure then he/she would consider themselves not at liberty, just as the victim of the serial killer would consider themselves not at liberty having their life taken.  Liberty maybe be a universal desire, but it is a POV, and certainly not an universal outcome.

The elites of this country believe it is their liberty to enslave all of you to support their lifestyle. They are not free to pursue it if the peasants organize in a manner contrary to their wishes.  The peasants on the other hand believe it is their liberty to achieve some measure of independence to self direct their lives without losing a significant portion of their labors to support the elites.

Just as liberty is a POV, so is Democracy.  The point of representation, i.e. a Republic, is to choose a representative that best reflects the outlook of the electorate, thus increasing the probability that the decisions made reflect the general consensus and not some special interest.  There is one huge problem with this concept - populism.  When candidate(s) turn an election into a popularity contest like Obama did with promises of free stuff, actually handing out free stuff like cell phones on the government's dime (actually the taxpayers dime) then this changes the character or the composition of the electorate who vote.  In any election there will always be those who do not vote thus the outcome can be rigged by encouraging and discouraging turn out of certain groups.  That is not Democracy, that is corruption.  

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 19:33 | 2970968 Darkness
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I VOTED FOR OBAMA

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 19:41 | 2970994 Cyberg
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u.S. engrish is a dialect with a huge ARMY

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 20:20 | 2971096 AynRandFan
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Libertarianism will never be popular so long as a majority of Americans want to be dependent.  Judging by the last election, that's most of them.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 20:37 | 2971128 bunnyswanson
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There are no fucking jobs, asshole.  Can you absorb that in your little mind?  When there are no jobs, there is no income.  When there is no income, you either lay down and die or accept assistance from anyone who is offering to help.  There are children to house and feed you selfish son-of-a-bitch.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 20:41 | 2971144 AynRandFan
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Here's the only response I think you'll understand.

Fuck you.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 21:27 | 2971255 bunnyswanson
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Those who look down upon the unfortunate among us tend to have an umbilical cord attached to their family's banking account.  The education they are able to receive opens doors that are closed and locked to the rest.  Their exposure to a life that isn't filled with violence and uncertaintly allows them to reach goals that only the strongest and most determined can in the lower classes of society.  Ayn Rand, born to a successful pharmacist, certainly was able to reach her notoriety because of it. 

 

Now, there may be an argument for the lazy underachieves who are found in every society but for you to compare the working class today to "takers" when the of loss of sound jobs which pay a livable wage (factory workers) for a family is a weak attempt to support your argument that we are all in this together and starting at the same point with the same support in place (including networking ability - friends of friends who open the doors cannot be understated when it comes to reaching high places in crony capitalism).

 

I am not an American but I have lived and worked beside them for most of my life.  These people are not lazy.  They are oppressed intentionally to shut them out of the political system.  Obama was voted in - but there are still a large number of upper middle class who have retained their wealth and jobs - limosine democrats - who support this man (whom I do not support).  But that shall soon change.

What we have is a transfer of wealth and nothing less.  The song and dance that we see before us will soon end.  When the consumers in the USA are drained completely dry, when their assets are used as collateral for debt they have no choice to carry because of this lost income, the fat lady sings and it is over.

http://www.2shared.com/document/y74Eef8q/The_Transfer_Agreement--25th_A.html

 

The Transfer Agreement is just one example of what the Zionists resort to in order to accomplish their goals.  The gloves are off and if they did not own the media, we would see the panic in the streets.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 21:08 | 2971211 Imminent Crucible
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"When there are no jobs, there is no income".

Um...if there are really NO jobs, then there is no one who wants anything for any purpose. We can be pretty sure that's not the case. So, when you can't find a job, you MAKE YOUR OWN JOB. You find someone, anyone, who wants something done and you do it for whatever price is acceptable to both of you.

In a real labor market, one where the government and unions and other self-interested parties have not regulated work into a synthetic scarcity, THERE IS ZERO UNEMPLOYMENT. There is no such thing as a "civilian labor force participation rate" or any of the other crap-talk from central planners. There are only those who apply their labor in the marketplace for whatever they can get for it, and those who withhold their labor from the marketplace because they choose to reject the highest offered bid.

If you do not learn to think outside the little tiny boxes that TPTB draw for you, you will fail. You will not prosper, you will not advance, you will not survive.  End of story.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 22:31 | 2971417 bunnyswanson
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The lack of extended credit to small businesses has been the reason that so many businesses have closed.  Mergers and acquisitions resulting in the monopolization of industries and their subsequent outsourcing to slave labor in 3rd world countries (where one can live on a couple of dollars a day) is behind this collapse of the middle class as well. 

Federal Reserve et al are not loaning after a credit expansion unseen in the history of the US, indebting the population, causing them to relinquish their property has happened and taking a drive down Main Street in any town is clear proof if you are not able to read the thousands of pieces of literature which have been published covering this issue.

This happened once before, the Great Depression.  The depression prior to that was also after banks ceased lending to anyone but the wealthy. 

Transfer of wealth is what this is.  It is obvious to anyone who lives in America and for anyone to deny it is proof you are either living in another country or looking at reality with blinders on.

 

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 23:10 | 2971531 weyes1
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retard

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 20:58 | 2971197 Pampalona
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he looks like fraisers dad

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 22:08 | 2971341 SilverCoinLover
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Ron Paul said:

"My presidential campaign proved that standing for freedom brings people together.

Liberty is popular – regardless of race, religion, or creed."

Not as popular as voting for government dependency and the "screw the debt gimmie my share of the loot greed before it all blows to hell" vote that Obama got.

Obama won. Paul couldn't even beat Romney in the primaries. That's all you need to know about what's really popular in America now.

Sun, 11/11/2012 - 23:21 | 2971558 livid levity
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This thread reminds me of Fucillo...
...it's HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGE-uh

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 00:24 | 2971662 Libertine
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LOL, Ron Paul.

A candidate that appeals to those who live in a fantasy world.

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 00:24 | 2971663 Libertine
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LOL, Ron Paul.

A candidate that appeals to those who live in a fantasy world.

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 05:27 | 2971898 bunnyswanson
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRduwYgrU7A&feature=related -

Ron Paul - Who owns the Federal Reserve addressed - Ben Bernanke. 

 

This is no fantasy.  Fed owns every dollar they create.  As they destroy the purchasing power of the USD, one politician has the balls to stand up in front of the world and address the matter over and over again, in light of the threat of reprisal, consequences that result from challenging the largest criminal syndication in existance today.  This is no laughing matter. 

The only thing standing between the US is the corporate-owned media - providing circus clowns for the ill-informed, indebted and bloated American public. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidBugvVqpw&feature=related  - Ben Bernanke reasoning their decline of an audit. 

 

What was revealed in the audit was startling:

$16,000,000,000,000.00 had been secretly given out to US banks and corporations and foreign banks everywhere from France to Scotland. From the period between December 2007 and June 2010, the Federal Reserve had secretly bailed out many of the world’s banks, corporations, and governments.

 

The Federal Reserve likes to refer to these secret bailouts as an all-inclusive loan program, but virtually none of the money has been returned and it was loaned out at 0% interest. Why the Federal Reserve had never been public about this or even informed the United States Congress about the $16 trillion dollar bailout is obvious – the American public would have been outraged to find out that the Federal Reserve bailed out foreign banks while Americans were struggling to find jobs.

 

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2012/09/first-audit-in-the-federal-reserves-nearly-100-year-history-were-posted-today-the-results-are-startling-2449770.html

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 02:33 | 2971825 Raymond K Hessel
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WOW!  Four pages of down right self indulgent shit.

 

It doesn't matter.  We're doomed.  

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 06:54 | 2971937 Zymurguy
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It appears to me that Precious and Go Ahead are operatives here whose goal is to fillibuster this topic in an attempt to drive people from reading all the comments.  It's a tactic used all over the internet and has an especially high frequency of use with articles about Ron Paul.  Tylers?

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 11:54 | 2972551 paulie
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American friends, could you please explain why Ron Paul has always been so low on polls to the point he quit running for office ?

And why is he not your president today ?

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 12:13 | 2972651 Seize Mars
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@Paulie

Not so sure about that. The guy has rallies, 6,000 people show up. Romney has a rally, 100 people show up. Fast forward, the unpopular one is nominated through cheating, and surprise, loses the general election.

Low on polls? I don't think so. He is very popular.

 

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 15:08 | 2976983 monad
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"When you see that trading is done, not by consent but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them but protect them against you - when you see compulsion being rewarded and honesty becoming self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed." Ayn Rand

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