The Devil You Know

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Politics is the entertainment branch of the Military-Industrial Complex.
- Frank Zappa

Democracies die behind closed doors.
- Judge Damon J. Keith

Every act of creation is first of all an act of destruction.

My Thoughts on the Election: The Devil You Know

Regular readers know that I voted for the Libertarian candidate for President, former Governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson.  I outlined my reasons for this choice in several posts, most definitively in my piece Meet Gary Johnson: The Libertarian for President Polling at 7% in Colorado.  While I was already excited for my first act of Presidential civil disobedience, I didn’t realize how truly liberating it would feel until the next morning.  Many Americans voted for “the lesser of two evils” and were disappointed
in the result.  This must have been an emotional double whammy in the
sense that not only did the guy you disliked so much that you were
willing to vote for a candidate you didn’t like win, but you didn’t vote
your conscience.  Personally, I didn’t have to deal with either emotion because I voted for the person I liked the most despite residing in a swing state.  What allowed me to do this was the complete and total recognition that under both major candidates America loses.

My major issues are:

  1. The Federal Reserve scam and Wall Street theft.
  2. Civil liberties and the destruction of the Constitution.
  3. Our aggressive foreign policy and imperial wars abroad that help only the oligarchs and impoverish the masses.

On these three issues, Mitt Romney would have been as bad if not worse than Obama and that is why Mitt Romney lost.  There has been a lot of talk in the past few days about the future of the Republican Party and rightly so.  The strange genius of Obama’s first term was that it was a perfect continuation of the disastrous policies of George W. Bush, and he was able to get away with it because of the “left cover” that the brainwashed fake liberal class in America provided him.  This left the Republican establishment desperate and confused and this came through crystal clear in Romney’s Presidential run.  Unless the Republican Party rids itself of the chicken-hawk, neo-con, warmongering contingency that seems to have a peculiar obsession with the female gender’s reproductive habits, they are doomed to disappear.  It is so out of step with the growing political awakening in America it’s not even funny.  Meanwhile, the Democratic Party has basically become the Republican party under George W. Bush with the exception that they support abortion and gay marriage.  Politics is becoming very interesting indeed.

I have to admit that I was much less irritated by Obama’s victory on Wednesday morning than I expected to be.  There are several reasons for this.  First of all, he is the devil we know.  By this I mean that the resistance to Obama and his crony-capitalist, fascist policies is reasonably well advanced.  Obama spent his entire first term blaming his predecessor for the crappy economy.  He will have no one to blame but himself in the collapse that is coming.  This is good and will allow people to finally focus on some real issues.  Furthermore, there are many prominent progressive journalists and activists that held his feet to the fire throughout his first term and will continue to make the arguments in the second.  On the other side of the political spectrum, although Gary Johnson received a disappointing 1% of the popular vote, he still did get 1.1 million votes and the Libertarian movement is strongest with the youth, which is of course the future.  While still only a bud barely breaking the surface of the soil, the Liberty Movement is alive and well and will only grow in the years ahead, as power is transitioned from the baby boomers and their tired ideas to a new generation that sees the world very differently from their parents.

I believe that had Romney won, the fight to really change things would have been delayed.  His supporters would have held back criticism for a while as they “hoped” that he would make it all better.  It would have take a little while for them to realize that he is just another crony capitalist oligarch puppet.  Based on his comments and Wall Street backing, there is no doubt that he would never have done absolutely zero in the realm of structural reform.  The country has cancer, not a common cold, and our response therefore must be much more serious than either of these corporate candidates are willing to commit to.  We know that such legitimate change will not come from the political class and Gary Johnson’s disappointing result proves to me that things will have to get ten times worse before the public gets the joke.  Unfortunately, it will get ten times worse in the coming years, and I strongly believe that 2013-2016 will be a historic period in the political transformation of the United States.  The show is over.  It’s time to buckle up.

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DoChenRollingBearing's picture

The Peruvian economy seems to be doing better than ours...

"Another Digit, Another Comma!"

overbet's picture

I strongly believe that 2013-2016 will be a historic period in the political transformation of the United States.


I call

brewing's picture

read em and weep - shit house...

fattail's picture

Yes, it must get worse before it gets better, and it will come, as the 47%rs give their list of demands to the president for their support during the past election.  Team Blue owns this decrepid POS and when the SHTF I hope the 47%rs will be so dis enchanted with obama they don't vote and let taxpayers elect some small gov't types to reduce the size and scope of the federal gov't.

There is no money.  Not enough for obama to pay off the free loaders, and the MIC, and the AARP.  They will drive this country into the ground.  Team Red won't get past their love for global war and the MIC.  They have already signaled their surrender on tax rates, good luck getting any real spending cuts.

Any spending cuts at all will cause GDP growth to be negative.  Tax revenues will decline, exacerbating the deficit, and running the debt level to ever more unsustainable levels, requiring evermore green paper money to paper over our unsustainable debt problems.

The sooner the better; lets get this shitstorm started while we are all still young.

Seer's picture

"Not enough for obama to pay off the free loaders"

I thought that was the Fed's job.

Ham-bone's picture

Democracies only good on the way up, dividing up the goodies and putting off the bills on somebody else. 

What got us in this will not get us out of this...but I don't yearn for the unknown as much as I know what is cannot be.  I'll enjoy (but not celebrate) the bullshit that is as long as possible cause I don't know how long or deep the shit storm of broken promises will go.

This is my life and I'll make the best of it - regardless of which epoch of assholes are trying to rip everybody til someday they can't take it anymore...and victims turn into gullible hordes.

10mm's picture

Here in the shithole State Capitol city of broke dick Harrisburg,Pa,about a block from the Governors mansion,a table with a few lap tops and occupied by some Obamanites ready and willing to assist those for SSI,snap and whatever the fuck is up for grabs.It was a nice day weather wise.

Incubus's picture

I already called 2016 about a year ago.


God, it's awesome how fucking prescient and awesome I am. 

Seer's picture

I'm thinking that this would flunk you out of basic/elementary math (2012 - 1 = 2011)!

Incubus's picture

what are you on about, Willis? 


I said 2016 is the year collapse manifests.  Not a year before that.

You don't have to be familiar with people on a sociological level to know that hope dies last.  And when it dies, it's going to be a bitch.

francis_sawyer's picture

-  "Politics is becoming very interesting indeed."

-  "I strongly believe that xx13-xx16 will be a historic period in the political transformation of the United States."


anything more to "entertain" us with?...

vast-dom's picture

you say this country has cancer? i say it has metastasized such that inside is the outside and vice-versa, washingon is wall street and vice-versa a la:

Ignorance is bliss's picture

2013 - 2016 may be historically interesting to some, but I'm worried. I am worried about my employment, my income, my bills, inflation, crime, my neighborhood, my family, my church, my future, etc... I see nothing but a shit show. I worry... That's how I feel about Obama and the looser...what's his name? Please don't refresh my memory because it doesn't fucking matter.

vast-dom's picture

I worry about the fact that you attend church at this stage of the game and that God has not advised you on how to use spellcheck, let alone imbue his disciple with strong grammar. 


"If you're doing business with a religious son-of-a-bitch, Get it in writing. His word isn't worth shit. Not with the good lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal."


jeff montanye's picture

now, literally, spellcheck has no problem with "looser" (less tight).  it's the dictionary that's needed.

Diogenes's picture

"If you want a dirty deal, get in with a church man"

-my grandmother ( born in the 1890s)

Seer's picture

You didn't believe that it continue forever, did you?

The REAL fundamentals: Food, Shelter and Water.  When you're scrambling for the basics, THEN real worry is mandatory.

xtop23's picture

You read the Kerry thread right?

Drachma's picture

Democracies die behind closed doors.
- Judge Damon J. Keith

Apparently they are born there too.

Thecomingcollapse's picture

I'd settle for a completely newly elected House and Senate as a consolation prize

risk-reward's picture

Sometimes I think we should desolve Congress and let K street put the new guys in there.  That would save a lot of standing in line and the result would be the same.

Seer's picture

I recognize your cynicism... I think it's a valid statement expressing the futility of it all.

rhinoblitzing's picture

You lost your credibility big time with this statement:

"prominent progressive journalists Held his feet to the fire"

WTF!!! Go back to Huffington and the NYT's -

The fact that Tyler put up this post is a sad statement of where we are and where we are going.  

yellowlight4570's picture

Yout absolutly right, a name or two would have been helpfull. I sure can't think of any.

jeff montanye's picture

glenn greenwald, naomi klein, matt taibbi are three.

of these the most consistent and productive is greenwald.  he also highlights other left wing critics of obama's policies.

p.s. chris hedges

Fox-Scully's picture

It truly would be a sad thing if Tyler did not put this post up or any others that did not stir some emotions.  Posts are not meant to satisfy a self-appointed select few!  Whether you agree or disagree tells me you still have the right to voice an opinion which is the most important aspect of this blog.

JR's picture

Mike apparently wasn’t plugged into ZH Saturday, Sunday and Monday before the election and missed the message. The Tylers and many bloggers urged people NOT TO VOTE.

And, of course, the trolls from the Obama campaign were on hand to oppose voting, hoping to keep Ron Paul voters from voting for Romney.

They managed to get the Obama supporters out en masse, however.

caimen garou's picture

Buckled up, check. say good night Irene.

xtop23's picture

Irene is so 2011. This years disaster theater du jour is named Sandy.

On a more serious note. I'm honestly amazed at the lack of preparation on the part of the populace on the Eastern seaboard. 

I mean seriously, didn't ANY of those nitwits see what happened during Katrina and think, "Hrmm, maybe a few provisions might be a good idea?"

I'm not a rocket scientist, but even I know that having a few months of food, an AR-10, 10 gallons of gas, a generator, and a tent / sleeping bag is probably not a bad frickin' idea.

Welcome to the movie, "Idiocracy", in real time.



StychoKiller's picture

A case of Brawndo® wouldn't hurt either! :>D

q99x2's picture

I voted for GMO labeling. Lost that one.

I voted for Gary Johnson. Lost that one.

I voted for Feinstein's opponent. Lost that one.

and so on.

They had the black box voting box at my polling place. I think Mitt Romney's brother owns the company that makes them. But hey I got to see my neighbors.

SgtSchultz's picture

Is it time to just give up and leave?

francis_sawyer's picture

It's time to eat the apple strudel & be happy...

Winston Churchill's picture

Nearly.Unfortunately when this sucker goes down ,its

taking most everywhere with it.NZ looks good right now.

Start making preparatons as an alternate bug out scenario.

Don't pay too much attention to Simon Blacks articles here.

Talks big but has no trousers,A little knowledgge is a dangerous thing,

and he personifys that.Plus he trying to unload a short9now long) term investment

in South America on the gullible.


PLira's picture

Quito Ecuador and Acapulco are excellent winter/summer alternative destinations. Cheap living, large ex pat communities, bureaucratic smegma so little ever gets done without "grease".

I thought long and hard about it, did the research and in the end, wanted to stay here for the fight. Gonna be a hell of a party and hey, the ZH timeline thing.

If you go, you do so with my blessings and I'll always (for now at tleast) welcome you back. If you haven't already secured a second passport, you're kinda screwed unless you want to dole out min 90k. Dominican republic takes about 3 years or so but you don't have to be a resident. Problem is, USSA is tightening the Cap Control screws and when the shit goes down here, they'll lock it up completely. Fer instance, if you wanted to wire 100k to buy property in Panama, because of the rules of withholding 30% by the foreign banks, you have to send 130k and get your 30k back from uncle sugar.

Additionally, this:

As for Simon, yes, he ratfucked himself as did Doug Casey who really ratfucked himself with the Argentina property, which is in a fucking desert and, Argenfuckintina for Christ sakes. Chile ain't bad in the cities but when the shit blows up, I don't know how they'll do. Keep in mind, Quito has 2 million souls as well.

I wouldn't take to long to decide, that window for departure is rapidly closing.

kito's picture

ecuador is an excellent choice......cuenca may be a better city than quito...........

PLira's picture

That is one good choice. My basic thesis was to network in Quito with the Ex pat community for a bit, explore and find a suitable town/area, explore extensively with overnights/short stays and decide from there. This would have occured in a 6-8 month period or so.

I've been to Guayaquil a couple of times, too friggin big to operate effectively. I've never been to Cuenca but I don't doubt your choice. If I were to go, my choices would be along the coast as I like this kind of enviroment mostly although the weather of the many disticts outside of Quito is most excellent, from my experiences. Tons of choices.

Additionally, if I was going to go, it would be by cruise line, the last of 2012 which leaves the West Coast on Dec 5. If I recall right, leaves from SF to Valispriso.

Here's one but the prices vary between websites.

Another, same cruise, different website:;jsessionid=806DE05...

I refuse to fly. I won't go into other details without revealing that which must not have attention called to it but it is easier to move valuables. Big Sis has eyes everywhere.

Anyway, I had this shit mapped out but, I decided to stay for the party that is to come. Gonna be some interesting times comin and I want to play in the game for the side of Liberty. May not last long but, at least I tried.

Thanks for your suggestion though.

hawk nation's picture

My problem with this thinking and i spent alot of time in central america evaluating places tolive was atthe endof the day when america collapses i think the whole world will be on fire and no place will be safe

I think every dictator will decide to invade and country that they think they can steal wealth from 

PLira's picture

The biggest danger of Ecuador, is that they use the US$ as a currency. Because of this, when the US goes down, much calamity will ensue.

One must do extensive research on these problems of each country before relocating. In this case, the best thing to do would be to convert USD$ to PM's prior to the collapse of the USD. The interm switch to whatever currency the EC decides to use will be a difficult period but ultimately, due to the state of EC Bureaucracy which was for me, notoriously slow and greased, one has to take these things into account.

The way I see it, the more tumultuous the Bureaucracy, the better for the citizen as the wheels move too slow to effect quick change.

Chile might be a better fit but I like the EC climate much more than Chile. Do the work, act on your research, accept the results, whatever they may be.

Other than Chile or EC, I wouldn't choose any other SA country, Been there, had nothing good to say about any of them.

As for dictators, who knows. When it all goes poof, it will be back to local economies sans those with China ties and then, not so much. EC is a self sufficient country. I don't care for Chile's VAT even though they are the most modern of the SA countries. I don't know if Modern will convert to a problem though. Just some thoughts.


xtop23's picture

Considering Chile. 

samsara's picture

yes, those places are going to be fun for an english speaking anglo in a few years.

"Gringo,  you ain't from around here are ya?" 

(spoken in the same accent as 'we don't need no stinkin badges')

PLira's picture

Friend, you really should travel more. Your stereotype presented is typical of someone who has spent no time outside of CONUS. The word Gringo denotes a foreigner in the Latin slang and while we in the USA see it as a slur, it is not meant that way by the indigenous population, per sey. It would be the same thing as me saying to you, that guy is a "foreigner", "Canook", "Brit", etc. It's not generally negative. Obviously Americanized Latinos may use it as a disparaging term, indigenous peoples tend not to do so in general. It all depends on how you look at it.  So please, either educate yourself or close your piehole. You watch too much TV.

Mind your manners, keep your mouth shut, act accordingly and within the culture and you'll be welcomed just about anywhere not populated by fanatical muslims. Hell, I've been to numerous countries and never felt like I was an outcast due to being American. Sure they may talk about me behind my back but who cares, at least it's not because I act out like an oaf.


jeff montanye's picture

per se (it's latin; they don't speak it anywhere anymore)

Urban Redneck's picture

Farang is actually a respectful term in the royal court of Thailand, angnostic when used as a synonym for foreigner on the street, and a slur when uttered in anger.

Tribalism and xenophobia are inversely correlated to economic prosperity EVERYWHERE.

The question the question is how far is the economy likely to fall, and how high is the tension over outsiders likely to rise in the place where one is looking to relocate?

Estrella's picture

People routinely talk about bugging out to Central and South America when (if) the situation gets intolerable here. I visit those parts of the world routinely and I wonder if that really is a viable plan. Currently, in those areas, we are "protected" by our not being locals and our wallets full of dollars. If the US should stumble I fear that the atmosphere would change. Right now I can wander all over Ecuador and my skin color and citizenship as well as my wallet make it a comfortable and reasonably safe experience (Though I have been robbed coming out of a bar once or twice in Quito, and even I, a complete fool, am nervous in Guayaquile at night.) I know several people that now live in large casas and have quite the comfortable life.

But, if the dollar should fail, if the US should collapse in internal strife, I am not at all sure that US citizens, in foreign lands, would not immediately become easy game for the locals. Remember, when our economy collapses, the Ecuadorian economy collapse (they use the dollar) and people will be pissed and might take it out on the gringo. Costa Rica, Nicarugua, and other countries NOT using the dollar may not immediately be affected, but, those large ex-pat communities (Think Guadlajara in Mexico.) will suddenly be broke (as their bank accounts go to zero). A lot of desperate people.

And then there is weapons. In Costa Rica, if you work at it, you can get a weapon. But...

Speaking of risky areas... I grew up along the border of Arizona and have family there still. I worry greatly about them. The land I played in as a child is now criss crossed with smuggler tracks and filled with trash from those who travel at night on foot. I believe homes along the border in Arizona are at great risk as well.

No, even with weekly travels to those area, some Spanish skills, I still think I am better off here in my country, surrounded by my countrymen, when times of tummult come our way.